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#101 nextgenjoke
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[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]kinect is about $$$ not entertainment.freedomfreak
Kinect is one of the best things that has happened to gaming.

That's why one of xbox founders nat brown goes on nbc saying xbox brand is dead before kinect was released right?
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#102 nextgenjoke
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No it's after kinect destroyed the brand and took microsoft's focus away from ''GAMES''.

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#103 freedomfreak
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[That's why one of xbox founders nat brown goes on nbc saying xbox brand is dead before kinect was released right?nextgenjoke
They paid him to do that. He tweeted it minutes after that statement.
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#104 nextgenjoke
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Kinect has nothing to offer a quake fan.

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#105 freedomfreak
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Kinect has nothing to offer a quake fan.

nextgenjoke
Dance games.
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#106 nextgenjoke
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kinect games arent even video games as far as im concerned.

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#107 freedomfreak
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kinect games arent even video games as far as im concerned.

nextgenjoke
Yes, they are. More gameplay than all the scripted bs these days.
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#108 deactivated-59d151f079814
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kinect games arent even video games as far as im concerned.

nextgenjoke

  Shouldn't you be bashing Sony too then? Because the PS4 has been shown to have kinect-like feature as well.. 

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#109 nextgenjoke
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[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

kinect games arent even video games as far as im concerned.

sSubZerOo

  Shouldn't you be bashing Sony too then? Because the PS4 has been shown to have kinect-like feature as well.. 

sony isnt making this the companys focus like microsoft.
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#110 nextgenjoke
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[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

kinect games arent even video games as far as im concerned.

freedomfreak
Yes, they are. More gameplay than all the scripted bs these days.

kinect does not offer deep/complex gameplay a real video game fan wants.
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#111 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

kinect games arent even video games as far as im concerned.

nextgenjoke
Yes, they are. More gameplay than all the scripted bs these days.

kinect does not offer deep/complex gameplay a real video game fan wants.

Yes, they do. Some of those dance moves take time to master along with the perfect timing.
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#112 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

kinect games arent even video games as far as im concerned.

nextgenjoke

  Shouldn't you be bashing Sony too then? Because the PS4 has been shown to have kinect-like feature as well.. 

sony isnt making this the companys focus like microsoft.

... We don't know if that is the case either for Microsoft, they haven't even announced the next xbox for crying out loud.. This is a bit premature.. 

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#113 nextgenjoke
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[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

  Shouldn't you be bashing Sony too then? Because the PS4 has been shown to have kinect-like feature as well.. 

sSubZerOo

sony isnt making this the companys focus like microsoft.

... We don't know if that is the case either for Microsoft, they haven't even announced the next xbox for crying out loud.. This is a bit premature.. 

playstation move isnt even as casual as kinect to begin with you could actually use it to play core games like killzone3. you cant play any fps with just kinect alone like psmove.
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#114 nextgenjoke
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="nextgenjoke"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Yes, they are. More gameplay than all the scripted bs these days.

kinect does not offer deep/complex gameplay a real video game fan wants.

Yes, they do. Some of those dance moves take time to master along with the perfect timing.

gamers dont dance lol
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#115 freedomfreak
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gamers dont dance lolnextgenjoke
I dance. I got the moves like Jagger.
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#116 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"] sony isnt making this the companys focus like microsoft.nextgenjoke

... We don't know if that is the case either for Microsoft, they haven't even announced the next xbox for crying out loud.. This is a bit premature.. 

playstation move isnt even as casual as kinect to begin with you could actually use it to play core games like killzone3. you cant play any fps with just kinect alone like psmove.

:| I am not talking about PSmove.. I am talking about the kinect clone the PS4 had at the conference.... And what? This isn't suggesting kinect was good (I was never interested in it) but trying to suggest FPS is the number one genre is what defines "hardcore" is pretty pathetic when the genre literally hasn't evolved much over the years.. And most are quite forgiving.. 

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#117 nextgenjoke
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gamers play parappa the rapper not dance dance revolution bullcrap.

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#118 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="nextgenjoke"] kinect does not offer deep/complex gameplay a real video game fan wants.nextgenjoke
Yes, they do. Some of those dance moves take time to master along with the perfect timing.

gamers dont dance lol

What defines a gamer? Because I see "annoying kid" crowd people demonize flock towards fps's the majority of the time.. 

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#119 nextgenjoke
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[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

... We don't know if that is the case either for Microsoft, they haven't even announced the next xbox for crying out loud.. This is a bit premature.. 

sSubZerOo

playstation move isnt even as casual as kinect to begin with you could actually use it to play core games like killzone3. you cant play any fps with just kinect alone like psmove.

:| I am not talking about PSmove.. I am talking about the kinect clone the PS4 had at the conference.... And what? This isn't suggesting kinect was good (I was never interested in it) but trying to suggest FPS is the number one genre is what defines "hardcore" is pretty pathetic when the genre literally hasn't evolved much over the years.. And most are quite forgiving.. 

it tracks the controller lol dude not your body it's not as casual.
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#120 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"] playstation move isnt even as casual as kinect to begin with you could actually use it to play core games like killzone3. you cant play any fps with just kinect alone like psmove.nextgenjoke

:| I am not talking about PSmove.. I am talking about the kinect clone the PS4 had at the conference.... And what? This isn't suggesting kinect was good (I was never interested in it) but trying to suggest FPS is the number one genre is what defines "hardcore" is pretty pathetic when the genre literally hasn't evolved much over the years.. And most are quite forgiving.. 

it tracks the controller lol dude not your body it's not as casual.

:|  Wrong, they even have a camera specifically to capture motions.

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#121 THE_Rob_Himself
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M$ has always been an evil company...this gen just makes their evil more transparent.

Charging for an unreliable console, abandoning the core, online fees, yearly rehashes. Sh!T M$ sucks so much.

[QUOTE="nightshade869"]What company isn't?Speedzilla

Sony

Sony lied through their teeth to get you to buy their last console :lol: not evil? 

Teh CELL will TAKE POWER FROM UR WASHING MACHINE!!11!!111!

3d 1080p Dual DISPLAY!!11!!11!!!!1!!!!1

4D!!!!1!!!1!

fanboys are hilarious :lol: 

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[QUOTE="TheDidact"][QUOTE="tormentos"] Yeah sony was so evil by selling us $1,400 + worth of hardware for $600 and $500 dollars evil sony die in hell.TheEroica

Yes they are really great people for telling us to work two jobs to buy their console and that they'd pay us $2000 if a PS3 is left on store shelves.

You just reminded me of the plethora of idiotic Sony sayings over the past few years... I'll post a few of the standouts...

1) "We feel very confident that the PlayStation fan is going to wait until they can get a PlayStation 3. If they do pick up a Wii, it's as more of a novelty." Dave Karraker, senior director of corporate communications at SCEA a in an interview with the Wall Street Journal

2) "Wii is a core gaming device. It's a more fun, intuitive sort of product to pick up. Sony Australia & New Zealand general manager Nic Foster in an interview with the Sydney Morning Herald

3) "Nobody will ever use 100% of PS3's capability" Phil Harrison, president of Sony Computer Entertainment's Worldwide Studios speaking with MTV news.

4) Microsoft is not a technology company. Nobuyuki Idei, Sony chief corporate adviser in an interview with BBC NEWS

5) Sorry you didn't have the opportunity to buy a PS3 this year, but I'm sure it beats lining up in a queue for hours on end only to be told the store has sold out. Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

6) "A bit pricey" [speaking about nintendo Wii] Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

7) "A big investment for family entertainment."[speaking about Xbox360] Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au :lol:

8) "I wish that they would come up with some strategies of their own, but they seem to be going down the path of everything we do." [speaking about Microsoft] SCEA boss Kaz Hirai in an interview with Official PlayStation Magazine the link below is a full list of 21 stupid and downright arrogant sony quotes. http://nmgamer.blogspot.com/2006/12/...ny-quotes.html merged :lol: :lol: :lol:

9) "I have no concerns about the competition." Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios speaking at the Game Developer Conference

10) "We don't care," [asked his opinion of the PS3's competitors] SCEA boss Kaz Hirai Gamespot interview at Tokyo games show

11) "PS2's Dual Shock controller is the de-facto industry standard for video games. And We define the standard for the man-machine interface for playing games. Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios, in an interview with GameSpot

12) You can look at the software that they sell. All their licensed kid stuff. So, what we're doing with the PlayStation Portable is really establishing a new marketplace, and establishing, frankly, a new beachhead. [comparing DS to PSP] Sony US Senior Vice President of Marketing, Peter Dille in an interview with Engadget

13) I think their product offering is still not broad enough. The content is narrow and appeals only to a very core group [speaking about Xbox360 Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

14) Q. How much will PS3's delay hurt Australian sales in the long term? A: Talking to our retailers I would have to say none" -and- "The early adopters will buy PlayStation 3. Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

15) Busted. Nailed. Snagged. As many of you have figured out (maybe our speech was a little too funky fresh???), Peter isn't a real hip-hop maven and this site was actually developed by Sony. Guess we were trying to be just a little too clever. From this point forward, we will just stick to making cool products, and use this site to give you nothing but the facts on the PSP. [speaking about all I want for Christmas is a PSP viral marketing campaign] posted on viral marketing website

16) "We're really looking at our target as urban nomads" [speaking about PSP graffiti viral marketing campaign] Sony spokeswoman Molly Smith in an interview with Reuters.

17) "The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC." Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios, in an interview with GameSpot

18) "Q: So are you saying that not having an exclusive on Grand Theft Auto doesn't hurt you at all? A: No, I don't think it hurts us. No, I really don't." Sony of America CO-COO Jack Tretton in an interview with the street.com

19) "Gengi is an action game based on famous battles which actually took place in Ancient Japan" So here's this Giant Enemy Crab, And You attack it's weak point for Massive Damage" also notable from E3 Five Hundred and ninety-nine US dollars, Its Ridge Racer!!! Some random funny Quotes from Sony's E3 press conference

20) We're providing more of an entertainment system, and they're focused more on gaming.[Comparing PSP to the Nintendo DS] Dave Karraker, PR head for Sony in an interview with pspfanboy.com

21) The idea of a handheld rivalry with Nintendo is an irrelevance. Those formats don't appear in our planning. It's not a fair comparison; not fair on them, I should stress. That sounds arrogant, maybe, but it's the truth. With theDS , it's fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen. But I fear that it won't have a lasting impact beyond that of a gimmick - so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that." [comparing the DS and the PSP] Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios in an interview with MCV

Yea,that Phil Harrison was certainly a bit of a fool was'nt he.Wonder what idiots employ him now.LOL

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I guess the SOny defense Force forgot about the PS1 days when Sony told electronics retailers that sold Sega products at stores that they would get delayed shipments of other Sony electronics if they continued to sell Sega consoles. Circuit City was the 1st one to give in and didn't carry any Sega consoles :-(. Also when the Dreamcast launched SOny LIED and told the Media that the PS2 would literally be 20X more powerful than the Dreamcast. Many gamers hung onto this crazy Lie that Sony made and didn't purchase a DC even after DC having the best Launch Line Up of games Ever. When the PS2 finally launches Dreamcast Launch games look AND Run better than PS2 launch games but the damage was already done by Sony's Evil Empire and Sega couldn't hold on to its console business. Sony is every bit as evil as M.S. if not MORE so especially when considering they had that root kit scandal.

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#124 RossRichard
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When did that happen?

SonyNintendoFan

In the early 90s.

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#125 Shenmue_Jehuty
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MS has been an evil, corrupt company way before they even considered making a game console. Their evil seems to saturate everything they touch.

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#126 ImBatman-
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Justice always prevails. Thank you Sony, teach evil M$ a lesson.

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Justice always prevails. Thank you Sony, teach evil M$ a lesson.

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Neither companies does customer service as well as Nintendo.
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Not one complaint about Nintendo here, glad to know everyone still holds Nintendo near and dear in their hearts ^_^
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Not one complaint about Nintendo here, glad to know everyone still holds Nintendo near and dear in their hearts ^_^SonyNintendoFan
nintendo doesnt listen to their fans, they didnt listen to what fans wanted during the gamecube era so we left them now they are crawling to casuals for support that they no longer have from core gamers.
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#130 shawn30
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"] playstation move isnt even as casual as kinect to begin with you could actually use it to play core games like killzone3. you cant play any fps with just kinect alone like psmove.nextgenjoke

:| I am not talking about PSmove.. I am talking about the kinect clone the PS4 had at the conference.... And what? This isn't suggesting kinect was good (I was never interested in it) but trying to suggest FPS is the number one genre is what defines "hardcore" is pretty pathetic when the genre literally hasn't evolved much over the years.. And most are quite forgiving.. 

it tracks the controller lol dude not your body it's not as casual.

Dude, are you a Sony employee? Jesus, we get it. Look, Core and Casual gamers CAN do both exist on the 720 and PS4. Just like we did on the PS3 and 360. And the gen before that. MS will no doubt have next gen versions of Halo/Gears/Forza/Madden/Fifa as well as Final Fantasy, Mass Effect 4, Battlefield 4, Call of Duty whatever, Assassins Creed 4, a ton of sports games, racing games, and whatever new multiplats that are coming like Destiny, ect. So the 720 will easily meet any gamers core needs. Just because Kinect is there as well has no bearing on the core games I have played and will continue to play. I hope it will greatly improve and we'll see the true ability it can bring. But if not I'll have my controller in hand playing all my fav core games and MS exclusives.

Food for thought. Both Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft will cater to core and casual games no matter any press release. Both spend money. That's real life.

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[QUOTE="ImBatman-"]

Justice always prevails. Thank you Sony, teach evil M$ a lesson.

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Neither companies does customer service as well as Nintendo.

I've dealt with all of them at some point or another this gen. I've had a good customer experience with every company.
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"]

[QUOTE="TheDidact"]Yes they are really great people for telling us to work two jobs to buy their console and that they'd pay us $2000 if a PS3 is left on store shelves.Krelian-co

You just reminded me of the plethora of idiotic Sony sayings over the past few years... I'll post a few of the standouts...

1) "We feel very confident that the PlayStation fan is going to wait until they can get a PlayStation 3. If they do pick up a Wii, it's as more of a novelty." Dave Karraker, senior director of corporate communications at SCEA a in an interview with the Wall Street Journal

2) "Wii is a core gaming device. It's a more fun, intuitive sort of product to pick up. Sony Australia & New Zealand general manager Nic Foster in an interview with the Sydney Morning Herald

3) "Nobody will ever use 100% of PS3's capability" Phil Harrison, president of Sony Computer Entertainment's Worldwide Studios speaking with MTV news.

4) Microsoft is not a technology company. Nobuyuki Idei, Sony chief corporate adviser in an interview with BBC NEWS

5) Sorry you didn't have the opportunity to buy a PS3 this year, but I'm sure it beats lining up in a queue for hours on end only to be told the store has sold out. Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

6) "A bit pricey" [speaking about nintendo Wii] Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

7) "A big investment for family entertainment."[speaking about Xbox360] Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au :lol:

8) "I wish that they would come up with some strategies of their own, but they seem to be going down the path of everything we do." [speaking about Microsoft] SCEA boss Kaz Hirai in an interview with Official PlayStation Magazine the link below is a full list of 21 stupid and downright arrogant sony quotes. http://nmgamer.blogspot.com/2006/12/...ny-quotes.html merged :lol: :lol: :lol:

9) "I have no concerns about the competition." Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios speaking at the Game Developer Conference

10) "We don't care," [asked his opinion of the PS3's competitors] SCEA boss Kaz Hirai Gamespot interview at Tokyo games show

11) "PS2's Dual Shock controller is the de-facto industry standard for video games. And We define the standard for the man-machine interface for playing games. Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios, in an interview with GameSpot

12) You can look at the software that they sell. All their licensed kid stuff. So, what we're doing with the PlayStation Portable is really establishing a new marketplace, and establishing, frankly, a new beachhead. [comparing DS to PSP] Sony US Senior Vice President of Marketing, Peter Dille in an interview with Engadget

13) I think their product offering is still not broad enough. The content is narrow and appeals only to a very core group [speaking about Xbox360 Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

14) Q. How much will PS3's delay hurt Australian sales in the long term? A: Talking to our retailers I would have to say none" -and- "The early adopters will buy PlayStation 3. Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

15) Busted. Nailed. Snagged. As many of you have figured out (maybe our speech was a little too funky fresh???), Peter isn't a real hip-hop maven and this site was actually developed by Sony. Guess we were trying to be just a little too clever. From this point forward, we will just stick to making cool products, and use this site to give you nothing but the facts on the PSP. [speaking about all I want for Christmas is a PSP viral marketing campaign] posted on viral marketing website

16) "We're really looking at our target as urban nomads" [speaking about PSP graffiti viral marketing campaign] Sony spokeswoman Molly Smith in an interview with Reuters.

17) "The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC." Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios, in an interview with GameSpot

18) "Q: So are you saying that not having an exclusive on Grand Theft Auto doesn't hurt you at all? A: No, I don't think it hurts us. No, I really don't." Sony of America CO-COO Jack Tretton in an interview with the street.com

19) "Gengi is an action game based on famous battles which actually took place in Ancient Japan" So here's this Giant Enemy Crab, And You attack it's weak point for Massive Damage" also notable from E3 Five Hundred and ninety-nine US dollars, Its Ridge Racer!!! Some random funny Quotes from Sony's E3 press conference

20) We're providing more of an entertainment system, and they're focused more on gaming.[Comparing PSP to the Nintendo DS] Dave Karraker, PR head for Sony in an interview with pspfanboy.com

21) The idea of a handheld rivalry with Nintendo is an irrelevance. Those formats don't appear in our planning. It's not a fair comparison; not fair on them, I should stress. That sounds arrogant, maybe, but it's the truth. With theDS , it's fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen. But I fear that it won't have a lasting impact beyond that of a gimmick - so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that." [comparing the DS and the PSP] Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios in an interview with MCV

this post seems to have taken a great deal of time only to realize nobody cares :( people dislike microsoft and for good reason.

Neither company is anything more than a big corporation attempting to make as much money as they can. Anyone who calls MS evil and Sony good is a naive fanboy. They're both shady as hell, same as Apple, Samsung, IBM and every other big corporation. As for the quotes, lol, the truth hurts Sony fans. I know it does *pats cows on the head* In the aspect of MS and Sony's video game divisions, its not even close how much more arrogant Sony has acted publically. But I don't find them evil for it, lol. Just over confident. Hope they got more buildings to sell cause the PS4 alone won't save them.
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This gen, yes they are. You have to be a seriously hardcore lem to actually be okay with all the crap they pulled this gen. Even members of the team that created the original Xbox are disgusted by the direction the brand is going in.

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This gen, yes they are. You have to be a seriously hardcore lem to actually be okay with all the crap they pulled this gen. Even members of the team that created the original Xbox are disgusted by the direction the brand is going in.

XVision84
You mean all those former employees actually dislike their former employer and don't care for how they run their business? Dude, that's most anyone who leaves any company and almost every industry. So no, I don't pay much attention to that. And just what did MS do to me this past gen? Oh yeah, they made me pay 3 bucks a month for Xbox live gold. Those evil bastards. Dude, I spend more than that at Subway trying to eat fresh. What MS did IMHO is create a well priced gaming console that fit my gaming needs. Maybe you don't care for it and that's your right. But you can't tell others they got screwed when they don't feel that way.
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

This gen, yes they are. You have to be a seriously hardcore lem to actually be okay with all the crap they pulled this gen. Even members of the team that created the original Xbox are disgusted by the direction the brand is going in.

shawn30

You mean all those former employees actually dislike their former employer and don't care for how they run their business? Dude, that's most anyone who leaves any company and almost every industry. So no, I don't pay much attention to that. And just what did MS do to me this past gen? Oh yeah, they made me pay 3 bucks a month for Xbox live gold. Those evil bastards. Dude, I spend more than that at Subway trying to eat fresh. What MS did IMHO is create a well priced gaming console that fit my gaming needs. Maybe you don't care for it and that's your right. But you can't tell others they got screwed when they don't feel that way.

1) Made customers pay for something that should be free (XBL)

2) Abandon hardcore fanbase later in the gen

3) Make developers charge for DLC (as in case of Valve)

4) Put a size limit to patches and dlc

5) Milk their products (ex: Xbox hard drive is separate from a normal one, so you have to buy an overpriced Xbox HDD for more space).

And those were just off the top of my head.

It just perplexes me how you're okay with all of that. Especially now that they are just going for Kinect.

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"]

[QUOTE="TheDidact"]Yes they are really great people for telling us to work two jobs to buy their console and that they'd pay us $2000 if a PS3 is left on store shelves.OneInchMan99

You just reminded me of the plethora of idiotic Sony sayings over the past few years... I'll post a few of the standouts...

1) "We feel very confident that the PlayStation fan is going to wait until they can get a PlayStation 3. If they do pick up a Wii, it's as more of a novelty." Dave Karraker, senior director of corporate communications at SCEA a in an interview with the Wall Street Journal

2) "Wii is a core gaming device. It's a more fun, intuitive sort of product to pick up. Sony Australia & New Zealand general manager Nic Foster in an interview with the Sydney Morning Herald

3) "Nobody will ever use 100% of PS3's capability" Phil Harrison, president of Sony Computer Entertainment's Worldwide Studios speaking with MTV news.

4) Microsoft is not a technology company. Nobuyuki Idei, Sony chief corporate adviser in an interview with BBC NEWS

5) Sorry you didn't have the opportunity to buy a PS3 this year, but I'm sure it beats lining up in a queue for hours on end only to be told the store has sold out. Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

6) "A bit pricey" [speaking about nintendo Wii] Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

7) "A big investment for family entertainment."[speaking about Xbox360] Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au :lol:

8) "I wish that they would come up with some strategies of their own, but they seem to be going down the path of everything we do." [speaking about Microsoft] SCEA boss Kaz Hirai in an interview with Official PlayStation Magazine the link below is a full list of 21 stupid and downright arrogant sony quotes. http://nmgamer.blogspot.com/2006/12/...ny-quotes.html merged :lol: :lol: :lol:

9) "I have no concerns about the competition." Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios speaking at the Game Developer Conference

10) "We don't care," [asked his opinion of the PS3's competitors] SCEA boss Kaz Hirai Gamespot interview at Tokyo games show

11) "PS2's Dual Shock controller is the de-facto industry standard for video games. And We define the standard for the man-machine interface for playing games. Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios, in an interview with GameSpot

12) You can look at the software that they sell. All their licensed kid stuff. So, what we're doing with the PlayStation Portable is really establishing a new marketplace, and establishing, frankly, a new beachhead. [comparing DS to PSP] Sony US Senior Vice President of Marketing, Peter Dille in an interview with Engadget

13) I think their product offering is still not broad enough. The content is narrow and appeals only to a very core group [speaking about Xbox360 Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

14) Q. How much will PS3's delay hurt Australian sales in the long term? A: Talking to our retailers I would have to say none" -and- "The early adopters will buy PlayStation 3. Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

15) Busted. Nailed. Snagged. As many of you have figured out (maybe our speech was a little too funky fresh???), Peter isn't a real hip-hop maven and this site was actually developed by Sony. Guess we were trying to be just a little too clever. From this point forward, we will just stick to making cool products, and use this site to give you nothing but the facts on the PSP. [speaking about all I want for Christmas is a PSP viral marketing campaign] posted on viral marketing website

16) "We're really looking at our target as urban nomads" [speaking about PSP graffiti viral marketing campaign] Sony spokeswoman Molly Smith in an interview with Reuters.

17) "The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC." Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios, in an interview with GameSpot

18) "Q: So are you saying that not having an exclusive on Grand Theft Auto doesn't hurt you at all? A: No, I don't think it hurts us. No, I really don't." Sony of America CO-COO Jack Tretton in an interview with the street.com

19) "Gengi is an action game based on famous battles which actually took place in Ancient Japan" So here's this Giant Enemy Crab, And You attack it's weak point for Massive Damage" also notable from E3 Five Hundred and ninety-nine US dollars, Its Ridge Racer!!! Some random funny Quotes from Sony's E3 press conference

20) We're providing more of an entertainment system, and they're focused more on gaming.[Comparing PSP to the Nintendo DS] Dave Karraker, PR head for Sony in an interview with pspfanboy.com

21) The idea of a handheld rivalry with Nintendo is an irrelevance. Those formats don't appear in our planning. It's not a fair comparison; not fair on them, I should stress. That sounds arrogant, maybe, but it's the truth. With theDS , it's fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen. But I fear that it won't have a lasting impact beyond that of a gimmick - so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that." [comparing the DS and the PSP] Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios in an interview with MCV

Yea,that Phil Harrison was certainly a bit of a fool was'nt he.Wonder what idiots employ him now.LOL

Exactly! You just strengthened the point! Money grubbing idiots all around and intermingled within every company... its not a surprise, they didnt form a company to give to the poor....
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well since cows are emotionally attached to their plastic consoles aka girlfriends they need to keep a healthy relationship with their father in law aka $on¥. :cool:
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[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="XVision84"]

This gen, yes they are. You have to be a seriously hardcore lem to actually be okay with all the crap they pulled this gen. Even members of the team that created the original Xbox are disgusted by the direction the brand is going in.

XVision84

You mean all those former employees actually dislike their former employer and don't care for how they run their business? Dude, that's most anyone who leaves any company and almost every industry. So no, I don't pay much attention to that. And just what did MS do to me this past gen? Oh yeah, they made me pay 3 bucks a month for Xbox live gold. Those evil bastards. Dude, I spend more than that at Subway trying to eat fresh. What MS did IMHO is create a well priced gaming console that fit my gaming needs. Maybe you don't care for it and that's your right. But you can't tell others they got screwed when they don't feel that way.

1) Made customers pay for something that should be free (XBL)

2) Abandon hardcore fanbase later in the gen

3) Make developers charge for DLC (as in case of Valve)

4) Put a size limit to patches and dlc

5) Milk their products (ex: Xbox hard drive is separate from a normal one, so you have to buy an overpriced Xbox HDD for more space).

And those were just off the top of my head.

It just perplexes me how you're okay with all of that. Especially now that they are just going for Kinect.

1) Made customers pay for something that should be free (XBL) Everything in life costs money in some way. I'm a grown man with a full time job. 3 bucks a month just doesnt matter and I don't stress over it, lol. Its shocking that you seem too. 2) Abandon hardcore fanbase later in the gen Funny, I'm staring at Halo 4, Gears 3, Skyrim, Mass Effect 2, Madden 2012, Dead Space 3, Forza Horizon, Tomb Raider, Batman Arkum CityMax Payne and I know GTA 4, Gears Judgement, and many, many more games for the 360 are already out, came out recently or are coming out. I just don't care if its exclusive or multiplat. All my fave core games are available. 3) Make developers charge for DLC (as in case of Valve) Yes, MS is choking those dev to make DLC for money in order for them to make additional revenue. I bet those devs hate it so much they all donate the money to charity as soon as they get it. Maybe you can find some Bioware or Epic online links where they so hated charging they gave all the cash away as soon as they got it :) Go ahead, search. I'll wait. 4) Put a size limit to patches and dlc That does kinda suck. 5) Milk their products (ex: Xbox hard drive is separate from a normal one, so you have to buy an overpriced Xbox HDD for more space). Kinda sucks to, but oh well. lol And those were just off the top of my head. It just perplexes me how you're okay with all of that. Especially now that they are just going for Kinect. It perplexes me how you worry so much about a console you obviously don't like, lol. And you seem shocked when fans of it do, lol.
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i feel sorry for those brainwashed by M$, the abuse must be normal for them 

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Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft are all in it for the profit, and are out to get money from their costumers. 


Sony, steals your lunch money, and takes your car.

Nintendo, breaks into your house takes all they can. 

Microsoft runs into you with their car, charges you for the damage, sues you for more money, since they own the amblance charges you doubble for the ride to their hospital, where you  get a HUGE bill which they forclose on your house, and garnish your wages. 

See all I'm saying is the Microsoft goes out of their way to stick it to you. More than any other company 


  • http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2008/05/hardware-analysis-suggests-the-xbox-360-hdd-is-overpriced/
  • http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2368510,00.asp
  • http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104609-Microsoft-Drops-Xbox-Live-Silver-Creates-Xbox-Live-Free
  • http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/microsoft-sued-for-blocking-third-party-memory-cards/

 

  1. http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/07/06/1721227/microsoft-wants-15-per-android-smartphone?sdsrc=rel
  2. http://www.dailytech.com/Nikon+Agrees+to+Pay+Microsoft+Android+Tax+on+Smart+Cameras/article29965.htm
  3. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10458849-16/when-will-microsoft-sue-google-over-linux-


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The worst can be traced back to 2009.Heil68

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Since they take your internet connection as hostage and order you to pay for able to access it on xbox.... so they asking you to pay for what they don't own, how more greedy can be that?ShadowriverUB

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Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft are all in it for the profit, and are out to get money from their costumers. 


Sony, steals your lunch money, and takes your car.

Nintendo, breaks into your house takes all they can. 

Microsoft runs into you with their car, charges you for the damage, sues you for more money, since they own the amblance charges you doubble for the ride to their hospital, where you  get a HUGE bill which they forclose on your house, and garnish your wages. 

See all I'm saying is the Microsoft goes out of their way to stick it to you. More than any other company 


  • http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2008/05/hardware-analysis-suggests-the-xbox-360-hdd-is-overpriced/
  • http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2368510,00.asp
  • http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104609-Microsoft-Drops-Xbox-Live-Silver-Creates-Xbox-Live-Free
  • http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/microsoft-sued-for-blocking-third-party-memory-cards/

 

  1. http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/07/06/1721227/microsoft-wants-15-per-android-smartphone?sdsrc=rel
  2. http://www.dailytech.com/Nikon+Agrees+to+Pay+Microsoft+Android+Tax+on+Smart+Cameras/article29965.htm
  3. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10458849-16/when-will-microsoft-sue-google-over-linux-


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Smart man.

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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="shawn30"] You mean all those former employees actually dislike their former employer and don't care for how they run their business? Dude, that's most anyone who leaves any company and almost every industry. So no, I don't pay much attention to that. And just what did MS do to me this past gen? Oh yeah, they made me pay 3 bucks a month for Xbox live gold. Those evil bastards. Dude, I spend more than that at Subway trying to eat fresh. What MS did IMHO is create a well priced gaming console that fit my gaming needs. Maybe you don't care for it and that's your right. But you can't tell others they got screwed when they don't feel that way.shawn30

1) Made customers pay for something that should be free (XBL)

2) Abandon hardcore fanbase later in the gen

3) Make developers charge for DLC (as in case of Valve)

4) Put a size limit to patches and dlc

5) Milk their products (ex: Xbox hard drive is separate from a normal one, so you have to buy an overpriced Xbox HDD for more space).

And those were just off the top of my head.

It just perplexes me how you're okay with all of that. Especially now that they are just going for Kinect.

1) Made customers pay for something that should be free (XBL) Everything in life costs money in some way. I'm a grown man with a full time job. 3 bucks a month just doesnt matter and I don't stress over it, lol. Its shocking that you seem too. 2) Abandon hardcore fanbase later in the gen Funny, I'm staring at Halo 4, Gears 3, Skyrim, Mass Effect 2, Madden 2012, Dead Space 3, Forza Horizon, Tomb Raider, Batman Arkum CityMax Payne and I know GTA 4, Gears Judgement, and many, many more games for the 360 are already out, came out recently or are coming out. I just don't care if its exclusive or multiplat. All my fave core games are available. 3) Make developers charge for DLC (as in case of Valve) Yes, MS is choking those dev to make DLC for money in order for them to make additional revenue. I bet those devs hate it so much they all donate the money to charity as soon as they get it. Maybe you can find some Bioware or Epic online links where they so hated charging they gave all the cash away as soon as they got it :) Go ahead, search. I'll wait. 4) Put a size limit to patches and dlc That does kinda suck. 5) Milk their products (ex: Xbox hard drive is separate from a normal one, so you have to buy an overpriced Xbox HDD for more space). Kinda sucks to, but oh well. lol And those were just off the top of my head. It just perplexes me how you're okay with all of that. Especially now that they are just going for Kinect. It perplexes me how you worry so much about a console you obviously don't like, lol. And you seem shocked when fans of it do, lol.

1) Congrats, I'm sure you're having fun being a grown man. Still doesn't make what they did a good thing.

2) I'm happy you're having fun with your Xbox, sadly of all the games you listed only 3 are exclusives and that's Halo Gears Forza. Instead of releasing Kinect shovelware I'm sure there'd be a lot more worthwhile exclusives to play on Xbox.

3) I wasn't talking about EA or Bioware, the example I put was Valve mate. There was also a huge free update for Unreal Tournament 3 that didn't go on XBL for the same reason.

I also love how you convinced yourself that I'm in emotional distress. I have better things to worry about than other peoples console preference, shawn ;). 

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I am not going to quote the whole thing from Eroica but damn that was some serious Sony ownage he just did.
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="cainetao11"]Whenever I read this high horse BS people here ride on, it reminds me: judge not, lest ye be judged. I am no saint, so who am I to judge any other. If I don't want it, I don't buy it, and that's where I leave it. I didn't want a $600 PS3, so I waited, but I never said Sony was evil for trying to convince people they could charge that much for a console. TheDidact
Yeah sony was so evil by selling us $1,400 + worth of hardware for $600 and $500 dollars evil sony die in hell.

Yes they are really great people for telling us to work two jobs to buy their console and that they'd pay us $2000 if a PS3 is left on store shelves.

Funny i did not have to get 2 i am sure no one did,the PS3 $500 was just $50 more than a premium 360 with xbox live,but the xbox 360 lack HD format for movies and the cheapest option was $200 on xbox 360 which sky rocket the 360 price pass the most expensive PS3 model,but without media card reader,wifi or HDMI port,oh and next year pay another $50 for online play. The PS3make the xbox 360 look like an arm robbery.
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#148 Link3301
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M$ has always been an evil company...this gen just makes their evil more transparent.

Charging for an unreliable console, abandoning the core, online fees, yearly rehashes. Sh!T M$ sucks so much.

[QUOTE="nightshade869"]What company isn't?Speedzilla

Sony

599.99 US Dollars.

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#149 sonic1564
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So, when is making money illegal for a company? I thought that you needed to do that or you lose everything you have.

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I am not going to quote the whole thing from Eroica but damn that was some serious Sony ownage he just did.CanYouDiglt
Not really, lemtool :(