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#101 Odrec
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="skektek"]For all intents and purposes they do.

skektek

No, they don't. They only dominate the market on operating system software. They don't make PC hardware (except for keyboards and mice). They don't dictate what games get made on the platform. Unless they're a publisher, they see no revenue from the games made on the platform. Theirs isn't the only operating system many games play on. Heck, you can even use programs like Wine to play 90% of all games on MAC/Linux. So how can anyone consider 'for all intents and purposes', the PC is a Microsoft platform?

Let me ask you this: where would the PC platform be if MS closed their doors, revoked all licences, and generally there was no running instances of Windows left?

They would start making games for Mac and Linux and they would run better. But seriously if M$ business model on operating systems is what they want to see on the console gaming market then console gaming is doomed. M$ aims to monopolize and then release inferior low quality products (ala Windows) when there could be much better quality products on the market with today's technology. So if M$ achieves their console monopoly we can all kiss goodbye to console gaming as we know it, they would become mediocre until another company comes and makes them release something functional (or at least until they make them hide it behind a 3 year warranty fiasco (do you really think M$ would offer that without competition... not!)).
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#102 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Jono789"]

The worst thing about microsoft is how much they say Innovation.. i think they are just doing it for the irony of them not creating One thing EVER which is original.

dragonfly110

what are you talking about, they created Live, the most powerful internet database for consoles that existed last gen. Plus they were the first company that had DLC content and DLC games.

They took all these ideas from PC gaming.
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#103 delta3074
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SONY,MS,NINTENDO and APPLE all do it to each other,lol,that's the way a business works, it's called competition, thee truth of the matter is ,ps3 owners actually benefit from it being in last place, it means SONY is working it's butt off to bring high quality exclusives to boost sales, instead of bad mouthing MS, cows should be praising MS for lighting a fire under SONY's butt, SONY became arrogant from dominating the market the last 2 gen's, and the quality of the games started slacking off, only about 10% of PS2 games where actually any good,MS came along, and made SONY work harder, which only benefits PS3 owners.
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#104 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="Jono789"]

The worst thing about microsoft is how much they say Innovation.. i think they are just doing it for the irony of them not creating One thing EVER which is original.

Danm_999

what are you talking about, they created Live, the most powerful internet database for consoles that existed last gen. Plus they were the first company that had DLC content and DLC games.

They took all these ideas from PC gaming.

and your point is, Microsoft is the head of PC gaming too :roll:

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#105 TurboGuru
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they steal every good game that comes out and make it only 4 360 and PC (ps they own PC) and do this constantly in an attempt to bleed ps3 dry and make itself the sole next gen platform

darkbow285

Welcome to the world of business.... blame Sony instead of Mircosoft for not bothering to secure games...

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#106 topps
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

what are you talking about, they created Live, the most powerful internet database for consoles that existed last gen. Plus they were the first company that had DLC content and DLC games.

dragonfly110

They took all these ideas from PC gaming.

and your point is, Microsoft is the head of PC gaming too :roll:

They do control DirectX do they not?
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#107 Darthnaevus
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why don't you write to mister gates about it? maybe he will *cough* listen*cough*?

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#108 dragonfly110
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why don't you write to mister gates about it? maybe he will *cough* listen*cough*?

Darthnaevus

um didnt Bill Gates retire?

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#109 shadow_hosi
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PC =/= M$ PC is a beast with no master and none can control or contain it and as such the TC i have this to say to you...
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#110 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

what are you talking about, they created Live, the most powerful internet database for consoles that existed last gen. Plus they were the first company that had DLC content and DLC games.

dragonfly110

They took all these ideas from PC gaming.

and your point is, Microsoft is the head of PC gaming too :roll:

No, they aren't. And even if they were (which I stress again, they aren't) PC game developers came up with these ideas. They weren't Microsoft's.
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#111 delta3074
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why don't you write to mister gates about it? maybe he will *cough* listen*cough*?

Darthnaevus
bill gates has nothing to do with the running of MS any more, he spend all his time running the bill and melinda gates foundation, which is a charity that champions many causes world wide, MS also supports doctors without borders, without them the SARS outbreak would have killed millions of people (it was a doctor without borders who blew the whistle on SARS when the Chinese tried to cover it up), which charity does SONY support? to my knowledge, none at all, so who are the leech's? cos it certainly ain't MS if they are giving generously to charity's is it.
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#112 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] They took all these ideas from PC gaming.Danm_999

and your point is, Microsoft is the head of PC gaming too :roll:

No, they aren't. And even if they were (which I stress again, they aren't) PC game developers came up with these ideas. They weren't Microsoft's.

well then fine they arent I m not a PC gamer I was just going off what everyone said :P

well even so, Microsoft as I said created the strongest CONSOLE online database for gaming. (plus all the dlc stuff I mentioned.)

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#113 CreepyBacon
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Jump in. Bow down to your microsoft masters.

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#114 Gamerz1569
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Do people still believe this? Its called a BUISNESS, if they don't put up exclusives then no one would buy the Xbox and they would lose money, its their way of keeping of with competition.

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#116 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

and your point is, Microsoft is the head of PC gaming too :roll:

dragonfly110

No, they aren't. And even if they were (which I stress again, they aren't) PC game developers came up with these ideas. They weren't Microsoft's.

well then fine they arent I m not a PC gamer I was just going off what everyone said :P

well even so, Microsoft as I said created the strongest CONSOLE online database for gaming. (plus all the dlc stuff I mentioned.)

But there was no innovation involved in that, just imitation.
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#117 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] No, they aren't. And even if they were (which I stress again, they aren't) PC game developers came up with these ideas. They weren't Microsoft's.Danm_999

well then fine they arent I m not a PC gamer I was just going off what everyone said :P

well even so, Microsoft as I said created the strongest CONSOLE online database for gaming. (plus all the dlc stuff I mentioned.)

But there was no innovation involved in that, just imitation.

everything is based off of imitation. one company gets a good idea and if it successful everyone will have their own version of it within a gen
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#118 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

what are you talking about, they created Live, the most powerful internet database for consoles that existed last gen. Plus they were the first company that had DLC content and DLC games.

dragonfly110

They took all these ideas from PC gaming.

and your point is, Microsoft is the head of PC gaming too :roll:

How is MS the head of PC gaming?
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#119 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] No, they aren't. And even if they were (which I stress again, they aren't) PC game developers came up with these ideas. They weren't Microsoft's.Danm_999

well then fine they arent I m not a PC gamer I was just going off what everyone said :P

well even so, Microsoft as I said created the strongest CONSOLE online database for gaming. (plus all the dlc stuff I mentioned.)

But there was no innovation involved in that, just imitation.

but why should it matter? Its a business, they dont have to be inventros they have to be business men. Can I ask you what good inovative thing Sony has made? Or nintendo? Cuz motion gameplay has been out far before the wii has.

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#120 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

well then fine they arent I m not a PC gamer I was just going off what everyone said :P

well even so, Microsoft as I said created the strongest CONSOLE online database for gaming. (plus all the dlc stuff I mentioned.)

dragonfly110

But there was no innovation involved in that, just imitation.

but why should it matter? Its a business, they dont have to be inventros they have to be business men. Can I ask you what good inovative thing Sony has made? Or nintendo? Cuz motion gameplay has been out far before the wii has.

sony has rumble controllers...uuum....nintendo has....uuum....mini disks?
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*Checks dictionary*

Leach (lch)
v. leached, leach·ing, leach·es
v.tr.
1. To remove soluble or other constituents from by the action of a percolating liquid.
2. To empty; drain: "a world leached of pleasure, voided of meaning" Marilynne Robinson.
v.intr.
To be dissolved or passed out by a percolating liquid.
n.
1. The act or process of leaching.
2. A porous, perforated, or sievelike vessel that holds material to be leached.
3. The substance through which a liquid is leached.

So that's what Bilbo Gates and his crew are? Coulda fooled me :o

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#122 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

well then fine they arent I m not a PC gamer I was just going off what everyone said :P

well even so, Microsoft as I said created the strongest CONSOLE online database for gaming. (plus all the dlc stuff I mentioned.)

dragonfly110

But there was no innovation involved in that, just imitation.

but why should it matter? Its a business, they dont have to be inventros they have to be business men. Can I ask you what good inovative thing Sony has made? Or nintendo? Cuz motion gameplay has been out far before the wii has.

I don't care about what Sony or Nintendo have done. I'm trying to point out to you your claim about Microsoft being innovative was an example of ideas they had imitated.
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#123 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] But there was no innovation involved in that, just imitation.shadow_hosi

but why should it matter? Its a business, they dont have to be inventros they have to be business men. Can I ask you what good inovative thing Sony has made? Or nintendo? Cuz motion gameplay has been out far before the wii has.

sony has rumble controllers...uuum....nintendo has....uuum....mini disks?

lol, no sony didnt invent rumble controllers and well...fine you can have mini disks :lol:

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#124 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] But there was no innovation involved in that, just imitation.Danm_999

but why should it matter? Its a business, they dont have to be inventros they have to be business men. Can I ask you what good inovative thing Sony has made? Or nintendo? Cuz motion gameplay has been out far before the wii has.

I don't care about what Sony or Nintendo have done. I'm trying to point out to you your claim about Microsoft being innovative was an example of ideas they had imitated.

IM not trying to clainm that they are innovative IM just more trying to show that they arent leaches either, all of the developers take ideas from each other, its one of the ways this business has stayed alive so long, they take already created ideas and 1 up on them to make the mbetter.

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#125 delta3074
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*Checks dictionary*

Leach (lch)
v. leached, leach·ing, leach·es
v.tr.
1. To remove soluble or other constituents from by the action of a percolating liquid.
2. To empty; drain: "a world leached of pleasure, voided of meaning" Marilynne Robinson.
v.intr.
To be dissolved or passed out by a percolating liquid.
n.
1. The act or process of leaching.
2. A porous, perforated, or sievelike vessel that holds material to be leached.
3. The substance through which a liquid is leached.

So that's what Bilbo Gates and his crew are? Coulda fooled me :o

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nice one flopstar,lol
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#126 Riverwolf007
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they steal every good game that comes out and make it only 4 360 and PC (ps they own PC) and do this constantly in an attempt to bleed ps3 dry and make itself the sole next gen platform

darkbow285

My hat made of tin foil protects me from them.

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#127 Danm_999
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IM not trying to clainm that they are innovativedragonfly110

[QUOTE="Jono789"]

The worst thing about microsoft is how much they say Innovation.. i think they are just doing it for the irony of them not creating One thing EVER which is original.

dragonfly110

what are you talking about, they created Live, the most powerful internet database for consoles that existed last gen. Plus they were the first company that had DLC content and DLC games.


IM just more trying to show that they arent leaches either, all of the developers take ideas from each other, its one of the ways this business has stayed alive so long, they take already created ideas and 1 up on them to make the mbetter.

dragonfly110

Yes, developers do that.

But it doesn't make them innovative, doesn't explain why you credited Microsoft as the first company to do these things, and doesn't really get them off the hook from the leeches charge.

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#128 dragonfly110
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I said it for the online thing mainly because TBH seeing as Bill gates did invent the modern PC I assumed that most of PC gaming features were developed by MS.

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#129 Danm_999
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I said it for the online thing mainly because TBH seeing as Bill gates did invent the modern PC I assumed that most of PC gaming features were developed by MS.

dragonfly110
No, he didn't. Please, I suggest you read up on the history of the modern PC, your knowledge is very poor.
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#130 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

I said it for the online thing mainly because TBH seeing as Bill gates did invent the modern PC I assumed that most of PC gaming features were developed by MS.

Danm_999

No, he didn't. Please, I suggest you read up on the history of the modern PC, your knowledge is very poor.

yes it is very poor, Ive already said this. ANyways off of the pc and back to the topic at hand

this shouldnt be saying that just MS is a leech then, all of the Big 3 leech ideas off of each other.

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#131 darkbow285
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[QUOTE="darkbow285"]

they steal every good game that comes out and make it only 4 360 and PC (ps they own PC) and do this constantly in an attempt to bleed ps3 dry and make itself the sole next gen platform

Riverwolf007

My hat made of tin foil protects me from them.

LOL:x

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#132 kage_53
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[QUOTE="_Verm"]Microsoft doesnt own pcdarkbow285

um ya they do they created pc in a sence that all "PC" games only work with windows -do you see mac getting any "PC" games lately

It's getting Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2.
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#133 furomaster_99
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[QUOTE="Darthnaevus"]

why don't you write to mister gates about it? maybe he will *cough* listen*cough*?

delta3074

bill gates has nothing to do with the running of MS any more, he spend all his time running the bill and melinda gates foundation, which is a charity that champions many causes world wide, MS also supports doctors without borders, without them the SARS outbreak would have killed millions of people (it was a doctor without borders who blew the whistle on SARS when the Chinese tried to cover it up), which charity does SONY support? to my knowledge, none at all, so who are the leech's? cos it certainly ain't MS if they are giving generously to charity's is it.

Yes indeed....And Bill Gates is part of the New World Order. Cheers! Natal should work great with NWO agenda.

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#134 adman66
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[QUOTE="_Verm"]Microsoft doesnt own pcdarkbow285

um ya they do they created pc in a sence that all "PC" games only work with windows -do you see mac getting any "PC" games lately

wow i better call ms and tell them that linux is hacking thier "pc" :lol: if ms owned pc bill gates would be living in a solid gold house and have 100 times the cash he does now, with all the royalties from anything pc related hardware and software he would get.
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#135 imprezawrx500
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like? l4d would have only been on pc if xbox didn't exist. ms has no controller over pc games and alan wake is the only upcoming pc/x360 game that ms has control over. that different from devs not liking ps3 so not releasing it for ps3.
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#136 Irick_cb
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Darthnaevus"]

why don't you write to mister gates about it? maybe he will *cough* listen*cough*?

furomaster_99

bill gates has nothing to do with the running of MS any more, he spend all his time running the bill and melinda gates foundation, which is a charity that champions many causes world wide, MS also supports doctors without borders, without them the SARS outbreak would have killed millions of people (it was a doctor without borders who blew the whistle on SARS when the Chinese tried to cover it up), which charity does SONY support? to my knowledge, none at all, so who are the leech's? cos it certainly ain't MS if they are giving generously to charity's is it.

Yes indeed....And Bill Gates is part of the New World Order. Cheers! Natal should work great with NWO agenda.

This sounds like an organization opposed to the will of skynet.

Their resistance shall be noted.

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#137 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Darthnaevus"]

why don't you write to mister gates about it? maybe he will *cough* listen*cough*?

furomaster_99

bill gates has nothing to do with the running of MS any more, he spend all his time running the bill and melinda gates foundation, which is a charity that champions many causes world wide, MS also supports doctors without borders, without them the SARS outbreak would have killed millions of people (it was a doctor without borders who blew the whistle on SARS when the Chinese tried to cover it up), which charity does SONY support? to my knowledge, none at all, so who are the leech's? cos it certainly ain't MS if they are giving generously to charity's is it.

Yes indeed....And Bill Gates is part of the New World Order. Cheers! Natal should work great with NWO agenda.

put your tin hat on, god damn conspiracy theorists, doctors without borders saves lives, what have you done to make the world a better place