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#1 megahaloman64
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Their console is decenly priced, but you gotta pay a lot of expenses. The wireless ip adapter, which should come with the system, cost 100 dollars. 100 just for a piece of plastic with an antenna sticking out. You gotta pay to play xbl. That's just rediculus. Ps3 doesn't have that. Ms needs to give everyone a refund who wasted any money on their xbl gold. Finally, they don't allow user created content, just because they don't make money off of it.

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#2 ActicEdge
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Meh, so what? If you don't like it, don't buy it.

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*Sigh*

How many of these do we need every day?

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Their console is decenly priced, but you gotta pay a lot of expenses. The wireless ip adapter, which should come with the system, cost 100 dollars. 100 just for a piece of plastic with an antenna sticking out. You gotta pay to play xbl. That's just rediculus. Ps3 doesn't have that. Ms needs to give everyone a refund who wasted any money on their xbl gold. Finally, they don't allow user created content, just because they don't make money off of it.

megahaloman64

Fail. You don't "gotta" pay for any of those. AND ITS RIDICULOUS, no E

EDIT and have you heard of the forge?

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

*Sigh*

How many of these do we need every day?

from a lvl 29 poster no less! :P
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#6 Ambli
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And when did it become a requirement to buy Microsofts Wireless adapter? I can find ones for $20-$25 easily.

And $4 a month for live...yeah not complaining with the stuff it comes with.

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It's a reqirement that 36 are made a day, and xbl is 8 us dollars a month not 4. I didn't see any today.

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#8 TheEroica  Moderator
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*Sigh*

How many of these do we need every day?

Aljosa23

I've been keeping track and by my estamation, 14.7. sad, isn't it?

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#9 Ambli
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It's a reqirement that 36 are made a day, and xbl is 8 us dollars a month not 4. I didn't see any today.

megahaloman64

Hm $39.99 for 13 month doesn't come out to 8 dollars a month in my head, just doing real quick simple math.

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#10 NYrockinlegend
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No it's 4. 4 dollars X 12 months = 48 dollars! That's just 2 dollars off of $50, the XBL fee.:P Yeah, they do seem greedy, but it's just business, and it's nothing I haven't seen elsewhere.
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It's a reqirement that 36 are made a day, and xbl is 8 us dollars a month not 4. I didn't see any today.

megahaloman64
bizarrely i got 13 months of XBL for under $40 on amazon (right now its $49.99). Do the math.
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#12 iam2green
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u don't have to pay for the wireless adapter. i go direct with Ethernet cable to router. u don't have to pay for live. there is also silver which is free just u have friends list. i don't think there are any thing that is free on the console that is user created. only thing i can think of is little big planet.
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you dont have to buy a wireless adaptor :/

all of the companies are out to make money otherwise what would be the point

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#14 Ambli
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[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

It's a reqirement that 36 are made a day, and xbl is 8 us dollars a month not 4. I didn't see any today.

blue_hazy_basic

bizarrely i got 13 months of XBL for under $40 on amazon (right now its $49.99). Do the math.

I got it for $39.99 at Best Buy like 2 months ago, picked up two at that.

Seems like these $40 deals pop up often.

So it seems I should have only bought one.

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[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

It's a reqirement that 36 are made a day, and xbl is 8 us dollars a month not 4. I didn't see any today.

Ambli

Hm $39.99 for 13 month doesn't come out to 8 dollars a month in my head, just doing real quick simple math.

Not even close(to the TC)! It's only 4 a month for the normal price of $50 a year, so it's even less for $40 every 13 months!:P That's about 3 a month, though it's a bit less than that. And this is just mental math. But MS wireless adapter? Why did you buy this one? There are several other wireless adapters out, for cheaper prices too. What's wrong with going wired? I might suggest that you do your research before going out to buy your console for this reason. If you wanted free online and wi-fi most of all, you could've gone with the $400 80 GB PS3. Comes with Motorstorm and RFOM too, and a BD drive. Not sure if that's what you were interested in, though, or if you already own one. You might also want to try searching for better deals on products if you don't wanna get ripped off. Besides the XBL fee, the only thing that has me going is the AA batteries in the controllers. Now, I'm not sure if it's possible to wire your controllers or not. Though with the PS3, you don't get an HDMI cable, a BD remote, or headset. Hmm, I wonder if the controller is a good remote, though.
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#16 megahaloman64
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Clarification: If you buy 1 month, and 1 month alone, it's 8 dollars.

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#17 Ambli
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[QUOTE="Ambli"]

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

It's a reqirement that 36 are made a day, and xbl is 8 us dollars a month not 4. I didn't see any today.

NYrockinlegend

Hm $39.99 for 13 month doesn't come out to 8 dollars a month in my head, just doing real quick simple math.

Not even close(to the TC)! It's only 4 a month for the normal price of $50 a year, so it's even less for $40 every 13 months!:P That's about 3 a month, though it's a bit less than that. And this is just mental math. But MS wireless adapter? Why did you buy this one? There are several other wireless adapters out, for cheaper prices too. What's wrong with going wired? I might suggest that you do your research before going out to buy your console for this reason. If you wanted free online and wi-fi most of all, you could've gone with the $400 80 GB PS3. Comes with Motorstorm and RFOM too, and a BD drive. Not sure if that's what you were interested in, though, or if you already own one. You might also want to try searching for better deals on products if you don't wanna get ripped off. Besides the XBL fee, the only thing that has me going is the AA batteries in the controllers. Now, I'm not sure if it's possible to wire your controllers or not. Though with the PS3, you don't get an HDMI cable, a BD remote, or headset. Hmm, I wonder if the controller is a good remote, though.

Yeah, there are USB plug ins that can go into the front bottom.

But I prefer using the rechargable battery packs, Was a good $20 investment.

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Microsoft is the company that gives you the most options. Not all gamers need wireless, not everyone needs XBL -- there's silver accounts for those that don't want to game online. But in the end, it's business. Microsoft's Xbox 360 was an investment, and they're here to make money on that investment.
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#19 123456789dff
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with the original xbox microsoft tried to make exclusives and they didnt sell as well they they thought, so they arent even making exclusives anymore for 360 really or atleast not as much. they were just making the wrong type of games, if they were making good shooters or something lol would of been selling good.
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You pay a lot of expenses for all consoles. Every company tries to get away with as much as it can, publicly.
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Microsoft is the company that gives you the most options. Not all gamers need wireless, not everyone needs XBL -- there's silver accounts for those that don't want to game online. But in the end, it's business. Microsoft's Xbox 360 was an investment, and they're here to make money on that investment.Stevo_the_gamer
Unlike Nintendo, which runs on rainbows, love, and that warm fuzzy feeling you get from doing good stuff.
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Their console is decenly priced, but you gotta pay a lot of expenses. The wireless ip adapter, which should come with the system, cost 100 dollars. 100 just for a piece of plastic with an antenna sticking out. You gotta pay to play xbl. That's just rediculus. Ps3 doesn't have that. Ms needs to give everyone a refund who wasted any money on their xbl gold. Finally, they don't allow user created content, just because they don't make money off of it.

megahaloman64
How can you say about any company in such categories when the reality is that the main goal of all these companies is to maximise their profits?
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#23 123456789dff
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Microsoft is the company that gives you the most options. Not all gamers need wireless, not everyone needs XBL -- there's silver accounts for those that don't want to game online. But in the end, it's business. Microsoft's Xbox 360 was an investment, and they're here to make money on that investment.Stevo_the_gamer
i want to play online free, like pc why spend 50$ i dont play online enough to spend 50$ on it.
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[QUOTE="123456789dff"] i want to play online free, like pc why spend 50$ i dont play online enough to spend 50$ on it.

If you want to play online for free -- Microsoft gives you a month of XBL free. If you don't want to pay after that free month, then get yourself a new system. Complaining about it won't pay the bills.
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#25 Biotic2099
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So when Sony ruled the gaming industry with an iron fist last gen they werent considered greedy? cause they hoarded the 3rd party developers all for themselves.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="123456789dff"] i want to play online free, like pc why spend 50$ i dont play online enough to spend 50$ on it.

If you want to play online for free -- Microsoft gives you a month of XBL free. If you don't want to pay after that free month, then get yourself a new system. Complaining about it won't pay the bills.

i want to play online free anytime i free like it. paying for isp bill is bad enough plus 50$ on top of that? plus there's no exclusives games on 360 that are good, maybe if they had some exclusives found only on 360 that were good i might pay. but im paying 50$ to play games, i can play on pc free with better online and higher player counts.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Microsoft is the company that gives you the most options. Not all gamers need wireless, not everyone needs XBL -- there's silver accounts for those that don't want to game online. But in the end, it's business. Microsoft's Xbox 360 was an investment, and they're here to make money on that investment.123456789dff
i want to play online free, like pc why spend 50$ i dont play online enough to spend 50$ on it.

then buy a 3 month live plan or use the one month given free. You dont HAVE to pay for the year.
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ok, to all you whoare against my post, do you enjoy paying for xbl when pc users and ps3 users get online play free. Do you enjoy not having user created contenr for games, when ps3 and pc does.

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[QUOTE="123456789dff"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Microsoft is the company that gives you the most options. Not all gamers need wireless, not everyone needs XBL -- there's silver accounts for those that don't want to game online. But in the end, it's business. Microsoft's Xbox 360 was an investment, and they're here to make money on that investment.Biotic2099
i want to play online free, like pc why spend 50$ i dont play online enough to spend 50$ on it.

then buy a 3 month live plan or use the one month given free. You dont HAVE to pay for the year.

i dont want to buy crap, i dont have to pay to play quake 4 or call of duty online on pc why should i have to on xbox360? isp bill is high enough already.
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i want to play online free anytime i free like it. paying for isp bill is bad enough plus 50$ on top of that? plus there's no exclusives games on 360 that are good, maybe if they had some exclusives found only on 360 that were good i might pay. but im paying 50$ to play games, i can play on pc free with better online and higher player counts.123456789dff

*yawn*

My only advice would be don't buy the Xbox 360 -- especially if you think it has no good exclusives (lol).

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ok, to all you whoare against my post, do you enjoy paying for xbl when pc users and ps3 users get online play free. Do you enjoy not having user created contenr for games, when ps3 and pc does.

megahaloman64
Forge for 360. All user content sucks on consoles in comparison to the PC.
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ok, to all you whoare against my post, do you enjoy paying for xbl when pc users and ps3 users get online play free. Do you enjoy not having user created contenr for games, when ps3 and pc does.

megahaloman64

I guess XNA and Community Games are a figment of my imagination. :?

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[QUOTE="123456789dff"]i want to play online free anytime i free like it. paying for isp bill is bad enough plus 50$ on top of that? plus there's no exclusives games on 360 that are good, maybe if they had some exclusives found only on 360 that were good i might pay. but im paying 50$ to play games, i can play on pc free with better online and higher player counts.Stevo_the_gamer

*yawn*

My only advice would be don't buy the Xbox 360 -- especially if you think it has no good exclusives (lol).

well i already bought it, and i wasted 400$ on it so i want my goddamn exclusives. i dont want games i can buy and play with better graphics on my nvidia geforce 8800 GT for cheaper price.
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ok, to all you whoare against my post, do you enjoy paying for xbl when pc users and ps3 users get online play free. Do you enjoy not having user created contenr for games, when ps3 and pc does.

megahaloman64

No, but I realize I don't have a choice. I have to decide whether the benefits of an XBL Gold membership are worth the price of admission. Capitalism and such.

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Their console is decenly priced, but you gotta pay a lot of expenses. The wireless ip adapter, which should come with the system, cost 100 dollars. 100 just for a piece of plastic with an antenna sticking out. You gotta pay to play xbl. That's just rediculus. Ps3 doesn't have that. Ms needs to give everyone a refund who wasted any money on their xbl gold. Finally, they don't allow user created content, just because they don't make money off of it.

megahaloman64
I guess you don't realize that BluRay, and WiFi are included in the PS3's price. They are not giving them away for free. Get real. If Sony gave you the choice, like MS does, the PS3 would be cheaper. And I'll tell you what I tell everyone else: If $4 is too much money a month for you, you should stop gaming, period. Besides, if you hate the 360 so much, why do you have one? (if that is indeed your gamer card, which I doubt.)
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

It's a reqirement that 36 are made a day, and xbl is 8 us dollars a month not 4. I didn't see any today.

bizarrely i got 13 months of XBL for under $40 on amazon (right now its $49.99). Do the math.

bizarrely not everyone can buy from amazon
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Well unlike Nintendo they are reinvesting their money into the console
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[QUOTE="123456789dff"][QUOTE="Biotic2099"][QUOTE="123456789dff"] i want to play online free, like pc why spend 50$ i dont play online enough to spend 50$ on it.

then buy a 3 month live plan or use the one month given free. You dont HAVE to pay for the year.

i dont want to buy crap, i dont have to pay to play quake 4 or call of duty online on pc why should i have to on xbox360? isp bill is high enough already.

ok fine. Play on your PC. Just saying LIVE is worth the price if your a console gamer. clearly u favor the PC so nevermind.
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Meh, so what? If you don't like it, don't buy it.

ActicEdge

*Sigh*

How many of these do we need every day?

Aljosa23

I think you two need a long break from SW. Can you at least try to contribute? Tell: you're tired of reading the same posts over and over again, but don't think of anything new to talk about. Followers.

MS is smart to milk their customers dry. But the down side is that they can't seem to get a bigger fan base.

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[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

ok, to all you whoare against my post, do you enjoy paying for xbl when pc users and ps3 users get online play free. Do you enjoy not having user created contenr for games, when ps3 and pc does.

Aljosa23

I guess XNA and Community Games are a figment of my imagination. :?

I ment mods and skins by user created content.

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#41 123456789dff
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iam actually a original microsoft supporter i bought xbox on launch original 2001 one got xbox live when it launched in 2002 paid for xbox live maybe up until 2008, i have a 360 also. microsoft need's to stop trying to turn xbox360 into a poor mans pc and relying souly on third party multiplatform games. you buy a nintendo console to play nintendo games. what's the point of buying a microsoft console if all games are best played on pc? i mean it has some exclusives but not enough quality in my opinion.
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[QUOTE="123456789dff"]well i already bought it, and i wasted 400$ on it so i want my goddamn exclusives. i dont want games i can buy and play with better graphics on my nvidia geforce 8800 GT for cheaper price.

Yeah... I bet, now will you excuse me; I'm going to go win the lottery.
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ok, to all you whoare against my post, do you enjoy paying for xbl when pc users and ps3 users get online play free. Do you enjoy not having user created contenr for games, when ps3 and pc does.

megahaloman64
Who cares? If I want MODs, I'll buy the game on the PC. It's not like PSN is bursting at the seams with user created content. LBP? Wow...That was fun for about a week. As far as paying for Live, $50 is nothing to me. It's a great service, and I don't mind paying for good work. Now, it's a good thing PSN is free. That service sucks. It doesn't have the integrated feel that Live does. PSN feels like an after thought. It's like a second rate rip off of Live.
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#44 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

ok, to all you whoare against my post, do you enjoy paying for xbl when pc users and ps3 users get online play free. Do you enjoy not having user created contenr for games, when ps3 and pc does.

I guess XNA and Community Games are a figment of my imagination. :?

I ment mods and skins by user created content.

Haha...Anyone can make actual games, put them on Live, and make money off of them, and you're talking about SKINS? :lol: So anything that is damaging to your topic is not counted? Typical cow.
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

*Sigh*

How many of these do we need every day?

LOXO7

I think you two need a long break from SW. Can you at least try to contribute? Tell: you're tired of reading the same posts over and over again, but don't think of anything new to talk about. Followers.

MS is smart to milk their customers dry. But the down side is that they can't seem to get a bigger fan base.

Um, okay...?

You sound mad over something.

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#46 LOXO7
Member since 2008 • 5595 Posts

wow. Didn't even make a dent.:(

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#48 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

Your all acting like a bunch of f**b*ys.

Only as much as you are. :)
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#49 123456789dff
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="123456789dff"]well i already bought it, and i wasted 400$ on it so i want my goddamn exclusives. i dont want games i can buy and play with better graphics on my nvidia geforce 8800 GT for cheaper price.

Yeah... I bet, now will you excuse me; I'm going to go win the lottery.

lol you can build pc for about 400$ max out cod5 or cod4 plus buy cod4/5 cheaper price on pc, plus free to play online. if you play cod for years on xbox live, you end up spending same cost or more than pc.
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#50 -Traveller-
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I'm pretty sure every business is greedy. It's generally how they stay in business.

Sony, Ninty and MS luvs the moneyz!!