Microsoft is the greediest gaming company of this gen

I have to agree with that. Even the Microsoft points are a rip.

Microsoft is the company that gives you the most options. Not all gamers need wireless, not everyone needs XBL -- there's silver accounts for those that don't want to game online. But in the end, it's business. Microsoft's Xbox 360 was an investment, and they're here to make money on that investment.Stevo_the_gamer

You are looking from one side of the argument let me show you the other, when you want to get a 360 HDD you should pay for that stupid price since you have to pay for those M$ made HDD's, for wireless adapter(as far as I know) it is the same case, for online gaming, you have no other choice but to pay to play. Say for the PS3, when you want to get an HDD, there are more or less 10 times more options to choose from, and I think Sony didn't make a $200 PS3 because they may think the core of the system would be lost (don't quote me on that :P ).

Same thing when it comes to PS3 online play, the default service is free but there are other services that cost money, like getting a special T-shirt in Home(I still don't get why some people do so lol). M$ has this way of letting you get something cheap but later on you usually would need to upgrade and pay for other not included services with a higher price than the usual or more, there is a word in my dictionary that is called "milkage" made specially for these kinds of companies that I hate the most :evil:

*Sigh*

How many of these do we need every day?

Aljosa23

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[QUOTE="Biotic2099"] MS cares about its gamers............they are willing to shell out millions of dollars to give their customers exclusive DLC and make former exclusives to PS3 multiplat. Now thats caring!world69star69

Is there sarcasm in there?

That's called Microsoft offering more to consumers, to sell more consoles. You've heard of the term "You have to spend money, to make money".

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It's a reqirement that 36 are made a day, and xbl is 8 us dollars a month not 4. I didn't see any today.

Hm $39.99 for 13 month doesn't come out to 8 dollars a month in my head, just doing real quick simple math.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

It's a reqirement that 36 are made a day, and xbl is 8 us dollars a month not 4. I didn't see any today.

irish4eva

[QUOTE="irish4eva"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] bizarrely i got 13 months of XBL for under $40 on amazon (right now its $49.99). Do the math.blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="irish4eva"] bizarrely not everyone can buy from amazonclembo1990

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] ummm you mean people who don't have computers? :?blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

It's a reqirement that 36 are made a day, and xbl is 8 us dollars a month not 4. I didn't see any today.

Hm $39.99 for 13 month doesn't come out to 8 dollars a month in my head, just doing real quick simple math.

I have to agree with that. Even the Microsoft points are a rip.

cloudff7tm

Their console is decenly priced, but you gotta pay a lot of expenses. The wireless ip adapter, which should come with the system, cost 100 dollars. 100 just for a piece of plastic with an antenna sticking out. You gotta pay to play xbl. That's just rediculus. Ps3 doesn't have that. Ms needs to give everyone a refund who wasted any money on their xbl gold. Finally, they don't allow user created content, just because they don't make money off of it.

megahaloman64

[QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

It's a reqirement that 36 are made a day, and xbl is 8 us dollars a month not 4. I didn't see any today.

Hm $39.99 for 13 month doesn't come out to 8 dollars a month in my head, just doing real quick simple math.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="clembo1990"] Or money :Pskrat_01

Meh, so what? If you don't like it, don't buy it.

ActicEdge

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

I have to agree with that. Even the Microsoft points are a rip.

clone01

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] You still have the option to buy from amazon though .... Besides originally is was about how much XBL costs. TC claimed $8 a month I pointed out that I got it for around $3 a month. (someone else also said they got the same deal from a store but I can't be bothered to go back and find which one)blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]And you can say 'oh the Ps3 was so cheap because I bought it on sale for X (cheap price, rather than the RRP). Which is why the RRP is used to determine the pricing of things, because bargains dont account for the majority, they are outliers.micky4889

Um... no. Nintendo is. Period.

Microsoft sells a game console. You buy the game console, it will play games. $200 plus tax and game costs. That's it. You don't need anything more.

Yes you do, if you want to play online and you don't have the luxury of knocking holes in your walls for a DSL cable, then what are you going to do ? There is no alternative , Microsoft wont allow a 3rd party wifi adapters on their system So in that sense, yes you do have to buy it.micky4889

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Ambli"]

Hm $39.99 for 13 month doesn't come out to 8 dollars a month in my head, just doing real quick simple math.

micky4889

1.you are very misinformed.

http://support.xbox.com/support/en/us/nxe/xboxlive/getconnected/CompatibleNetworkEquipment/CompatibleNetworkingEquipment.aspx

there are actually quite a few wireless bridges *some of which can be found for as cheap as 30 dollars* that work with the 360 and they aren't even on the compatible list but they still work.

Not only is it the greediest company this gen, it's also gives us the most unreliable console on the market. RROD is plain laughable.

If the PS3 didnt have WifI it would cost about 100$'s less , so whats your point? Sony is forcing you to pay for WiFi, and MS isnt. thepoop7

Dude since when does wifi cost $100, do the math. Geez.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] You still have the option to buy from amazon though .... Besides originally is was about how much XBL costs. TC claimed $8 a month I pointed out that I got it for around $3 a month. (someone else also said they got the same deal from a store but I can't be bothered to go back and find which one)blue_hazy_basic

Greedy? Why does Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft make video game consoles?

To profit. They put out accessories, games, DLC, and whatever else they can to profit from. If you don't like it, don't buy it. If they don't sell, the major company pulls it from the shelves.

The video game market is nearly 100% driven by consumers. No government intervention, no heavy taxes, no stimulus, just 100% pure competition. Its all about the consumers. If something doesn't sell well, they don't keep puting it out. So the stuff that seems like milkage and pointless is making them profit so they aren't going to stop any time soon. This hold true for all of the companies.

Not only is it the greediest company this gen, it's also gives us the most unreliable console on the market. RROD is plain laughable.

david_lck

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Not only is it the greediest company this gen, it's also gives us the most unreliable console on the market. RROD is plain laughable.

delta3074

Its still an issue.

When you screw up on such a major scale its no wonder.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="david_lck"]

Not only is it the greediest company this gen, it's also gives us the most unreliable console on the market. RROD is plain laughable.

skrat_01

Its still an issue.

When you screw up on such a major scale its no wonder.

You've tested each and every 360 and you know this, right?

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="david_lck"]

Not only is it the greediest company this gen, it's also gives us the most unreliable console on the market. RROD is plain laughable.

skrat_01

Its still an issue.

When you screw up on such a major scale its no wonder.

You've tested each and every 360 and you know this, right?

AlphaGamer469

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You've tested each and every 360 and you know this, right?

skrat_01

Waaah, M$ is so eviil!!11! :cry:

Seriously, you guys are ridiculous.

Every company is greedy and their goal is to get your money. I do think Microsoft sells the most things for their 360 but half of those things they're selling you probably don't need to play a video game.

you are talking about 1 possible scenario out of many, and every console will eventually fail wether it's a ps3,wii. RROD cannot be here to stay because there will not always be 360'sdelta3074

We are talking about RROD.

You said it was "plain gone!"

It isn't As long as the millions of earlier builds are out there it IS here to stay, as in those huge numbers there are still consoles prone to RROD failure.

You simply cannot undo a problem that has been done over such a massive scale.

RROD is "plain gone" in the revised builds of the 360.

Thats it.

Considering its taken from November 2005 to 2009 to even fix the build issues, its hardly an achievement.

Their console is decenly priced, but you gotta pay a lot of expenses. The wireless ip adapter, which should come with the system, cost 100 dollars. 100 just for a piece of plastic with an antenna sticking out. You gotta pay to play xbl. That's just rediculus. Ps3 doesn't have that. Ms needs to give everyone a refund who wasted any money on their xbl gold. Finally, they don't allow user created content, just because they don't make money off of it.

megahaloman64