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#51 Tiefster
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People know MS is bad at actual competition, to say otherwise is just being blind.
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People know MS is bad at actual competition, to say otherwise is just being blind.Tiefster
They didn't get to where they are today by being bad at competition. For the matter neither did Sony.
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#53 Utensilman
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I haven't posted on this forum in a very long time but this topic deserves a post. This has to be one of the funniest load of BS i've ever read. so hypocritical and a poor argument.

"Microsoft does not hesitate to do whatever it can to win, so long as it can get away with it.".............jesus... not much to say about this. MS produces a console and wants to win.......... those bastards!!!!!!!!!!

You're obviously a huge sony fanboy. You're entire argument about MS entering industries to compete is completely hypocritical. Sony, the same as MS has entered countless industries to compete and make money.

wow...just wow

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[QUOTE="Tiefster"]People know MS is bad at actual competition, to say otherwise is just being blind.BumFluff122
They didn't get to where they are today by being bad at competition. For the matter neither did Sony.


To be good at competition you have to actually compete. I feel both Sony and Nintendo deal well with competition. MS on the other hand takes a non-competitive strategy when it comes to business. While they are technically competing in a market they do not really compete on the level that Sony and Nintendo did in the PS1 and N64 days.

You can wave it off as SW banter if you'd like but MS was only really competitive in the early Windows days, once the money was made the non-competitive strategy began to take effect and continues to this day in most of their markets. Unfortunately for MS the game market is different than the other markets they are currently involved in.

I can explain this in a simpler manner. Let's say your town has 3 gas stations, all are privately owned and they compete against each other with price wars and maybe offering different services. Nice right? Well Sheetz looks at your town and decides they want to build one of their stores and gas stations in your town. Rather than competing against the three other gas stations Sheetz would rather just offer the gas stations a buyout price and not compete against them. This is an example of being non-competitive. Walmart does the same thing a long with many other companies.

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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"][QUOTE="Tiefster"]People know MS is bad at actual competition, to say otherwise is just being blind.Tiefster

They didn't get to where they are today by being bad at competition. For the matter neither did Sony.


To be good at competition you have to actually compete. I feel both Sony and Nintendo deal well with competition. MS on the other hand takes a non-competitive strategy when it comes to business. While they are technically competing in a market they do not really compete on the level that Sony and Nintendo did in the PS1 and N64 days.

You can wave it off as SW banter if you'd like but MS was only really competitive in the early Windows days, once the money was made the non-competitive strategy began to take effect and continues to this day in most of their markets. Unfortunately for MS the game market is different than the other markets they are currently involved in.

I can explain this in a simpler manner. Let's say your town has 3 gas stations, all are privately owned and they compete against each other with price wars and maybe offering different services. Nice right? Well Sheetz looks at your town and decides they want to build one of their stores and gas stations in your town. Rather than competing against the three other gas stations Sheetz would rather just offer the gas stations a buyout price and not compete against them. This is an example of being non-competitive. Walmart does the same thing a long with many other companies.

If Microsoft wasn't a competeive company they wouldn't be buying out other companies. They are competing against other companies who do the same thing. When a company is on top they try to stay on top. If someoen comes up with somethign better chances are the larger company will try to buy them out so they can remain competitive. An example would be google and their former acquisition of the search engine formerly made by the makers of cuil.com. MS is not the only company who buys out lower companies to increase the reliability of it's products to remain competitive.
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"][QUOTE="Tiefster"]People know MS is bad at actual competition, to say otherwise is just being blind.Tiefster

They didn't get to where they are today by being bad at competition. For the matter neither did Sony.


To be good at competition you have to actually compete. I feel both Sony and Nintendo deal well with competition. MS on the other hand takes a non-competitive strategy when it comes to business. While they are technically competing in a market they do not really compete on the level that Sony and Nintendo did in the PS1 and N64 days.

You can wave it off as SW banter if you'd like but MS was only really competitive in the early Windows days, once the money was made the non-competitive strategy began to take effect and continues to this day in most of their markets. Unfortunately for MS the game market is different than the other markets they are currently involved in.

I can explain this in a simpler manner. Let's say your town has 3 gas stations, all are privately owned and they compete against each other with price wars and maybe offering different services. Nice right? Well Sheetz looks at your town and decides they want to build one of their stores and gas stations in your town. Rather than competing against the three other gas stations Sheetz would rather just offer the gas stations a buyout price and not compete against them. This is an example of being non-competitive. Walmart does the same thing a long with many other companies.

I understand what your saying, but it's these ideoligies that businesses fail with. This notion of fair competition is an arguement of PERSONAL morals and ethics. That is the first rule of business, it's not personal.
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[QUOTE="Tiefster"]

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"][QUOTE="Tiefster"]People know MS is bad at actual competition, to say otherwise is just being blind.cainetao11

They didn't get to where they are today by being bad at competition. For the matter neither did Sony.


To be good at competition you have to actually compete. I feel both Sony and Nintendo deal well with competition. MS on the other hand takes a non-competitive strategy when it comes to business. While they are technically competing in a market they do not really compete on the level that Sony and Nintendo did in the PS1 and N64 days.

You can wave it off as SW banter if you'd like but MS was only really competitive in the early Windows days, once the money was made the non-competitive strategy began to take effect and continues to this day in most of their markets. Unfortunately for MS the game market is different than the other markets they are currently involved in.

I can explain this in a simpler manner. Let's say your town has 3 gas stations, all are privately owned and they compete against each other with price wars and maybe offering different services. Nice right? Well Sheetz looks at your town and decides they want to build one of their stores and gas stations in your town. Rather than competing against the three other gas stations Sheetz would rather just offer the gas stations a buyout price and not compete against them. This is an example of being non-competitive. Walmart does the same thing a long with many other companies.

I understand what your saying, but it's these ideoligies that businesses fail with. This notion of fair competition is an arguement of PERSONAL morals and ethics. That is the first rule of business, it's not personal.

that right! As they say "its just business"
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[QUOTE="Tiefster"]

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"][QUOTE="Tiefster"]People know MS is bad at actual competition, to say otherwise is just being blind.cainetao11

They didn't get to where they are today by being bad at competition. For the matter neither did Sony.


To be good at competition you have to actually compete. I feel both Sony and Nintendo deal well with competition. MS on the other hand takes a non-competitive strategy when it comes to business. While they are technically competing in a market they do not really compete on the level that Sony and Nintendo did in the PS1 and N64 days.

You can wave it off as SW banter if you'd like but MS was only really competitive in the early Windows days, once the money was made the non-competitive strategy began to take effect and continues to this day in most of their markets. Unfortunately for MS the game market is different than the other markets they are currently involved in.

I can explain this in a simpler manner. Let's say your town has 3 gas stations, all are privately owned and they compete against each other with price wars and maybe offering different services. Nice right? Well Sheetz looks at your town and decides they want to build one of their stores and gas stations in your town. Rather than competing against the three other gas stations Sheetz would rather just offer the gas stations a buyout price and not compete against them. This is an example of being non-competitive. Walmart does the same thing a long with many other companies.

I understand what your saying, but it's these ideoligies that businesses fail with. This notion of fair competition is an arguement of PERSONAL morals and ethics. That is the first rule of business, it's not personal.

truth. short and sweet.
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#59 Iceman2911
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I don't know what is worse the tc or the people who actually respond to the tc.
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If you can't beat em, join em
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If Microsoft wasn't a competeive company they wouldn't be buying out other companies. They are competing against other companies who do the same thing. When a company is on top they try to stay on top. If someoen comes up with somethign better chances are the larger company will try to buy them out so they can remain competitive. An example would be google and their former acquisition of the search engine formerly made by the makers of cuil.com. MS is not the only company who buys out lower companies to increase the reliability of it's products to remain competitive.BumFluff122

Like I said in my post, MS technically competes but uses a non-competitive strategy. I also stated that many other companies do this, I think you're misinterpretting what I'm saying.

Sony and Nintendo have a different way of competing than MS. While everyone picks up studios and revives them here and there MS has gone out of their way it seems not to absorb studios but rather throw money at 3rd parties for sometimes not even exclusive games, sometimes it's only a timed exclusive. It's a different strategy as opposed to how it has been in the past.

If MS actually bought some studios it'd be a different story, but aside from a handful of acquisitions from last gen they've been stagnant on the front and actually lost a studio. MS not scooping up Itagaki was almost all the proof I ever needed of their strategy.

Don't preach to me about being competitive either, I've worked in resturaunt/catering business for 5 years, I know business competition.
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#62 cainetao11
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I don't know what is worse the tc or the people who actually respond to the tc.Iceman2911
Yes, we are "worse" because we express a different opinion. MS makes shoddy hardware, I am lucky to never have had a problem w/my 360.
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]If Microsoft wasn't a competeive company they wouldn't be buying out other companies. They are competing against other companies who do the same thing. When a company is on top they try to stay on top. If someoen comes up with somethign better chances are the larger company will try to buy them out so they can remain competitive. An example would be google and their former acquisition of the search engine formerly made by the makers of cuil.com. MS is not the only company who buys out lower companies to increase the reliability of it's products to remain competitive.Tiefster

Like I said in my post, MS technically competes but uses a non-competitive strategy. I also stated that many other companies do this, I think you're misinterpretting what I'm saying.

Sony and Nintendo have a different way of competing than MS. While everyone picks up studios and revives them here and there MS has gone out of their way it seems not to absorb studios but rather throw money at 3rd parties for sometimes not even exclusive games, sometimes it's only a timed exclusive. It's a different strategy as opposed to how it has been in the past.

If MS actually bought some studios it'd be a different story, but aside from a handful of acquisitions from last gen they've been stagnant on the front and actually lost a studio. MS not scooping up Itagaki was almost all the proof I ever needed of their strategy.

Don't preach to me about being competitive either, I've worked in resturaunt/catering business for 5 years, I know business competition.

Your answer tells me you still let all this be personal. The label "preach" for what was just an answer. I've been trading securities for 11 years now and it helps to not let personal opinions get involved is all I am saying. They are opinions until they are made into business laws.
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Sihanouk was brainwashed by Sony! Or he/she/it is getting paid a lot.
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]If Microsoft wasn't a competeive company they wouldn't be buying out other companies. They are competing against other companies who do the same thing. When a company is on top they try to stay on top. If someoen comes up with somethign better chances are the larger company will try to buy them out so they can remain competitive. An example would be google and their former acquisition of the search engine formerly made by the makers of cuil.com. MS is not the only company who buys out lower companies to increase the reliability of it's products to remain competitive.Tiefster

Like I said in my post, MS technically competes but uses a non-competitive strategy. I also stated that many other companies do this, I think you're misinterpretting what I'm saying.

Sony and Nintendo have a different way of competing than MS. While everyone picks up studios and revives them here and there MS has gone out of their way it seems not to absorb studios but rather throw money at 3rd parties for sometimes not even exclusive games, sometimes it's only a timed exclusive. It's a different strategy as opposed to how it has been in the past.

If MS actually bought some studios it'd be a different story, but aside from a handful of acquisitions from last gen they've been stagnant on the front and actually lost a studio. MS not scooping up Itagaki was almost all the proof I ever needed of their strategy.

Don't preach to me about being competitive either, I've worked in resturaunt/catering business for 5 years, I know business competition.

The way I understand it is you are calling MS out for throwing it's money around to get the products that other companies have. Am I correct? Whether that be purchasing companies outright or throwing money towards a company to gain access to one of their products they are doing to stay competitive against a competing companies products. While Nintendo is more known for internal development and, I'm fairly certain, they need to throw less money a developers way for them to produce as they have a much larger install base. Both MS and Sony are both throwing money in developers faces in order to achieve their goals. That being beating out the competition.

Let us look at what a buyout of a company by MS would cost them. First they must pay for the company then they must pay for the workers wages of said company as well as many other things. Have you not thought that the financial geniuses behind MS considered all the options for buying otu a company and merely offering them money in order to use one of their products?MS didn;t become one of the fortune 500 by squandering it's money. The financers will take what is most appealing to them.

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#66 Mafia217
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is this thread another rant about how MS is paying all those other companies to make exclusive games non exclusive?

as for the products, MS has always had a monopoly, but it doesn't bother me. It's not like its the end of the world. Most ppl use Windows made by MS Except Vista, they kinda screwed it, but i heard they are fixing litle by little. Reading the thread makes it look like its a rebellious letter agasint MS. heh

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tc shouldn't you be cleaning the dust off your beloved obesseion ps3
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serious thread, serious business.
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serious thread, serious business. JPOBS

Serious laughs too.

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WOW TC ARE YOU SERIOUS? MICROSOFT IS A CORPORATION? CALL THE NEWS STATIONS PEOPLE!! THIS IS BREAKING NEWS!!!
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tc shouldn't you be cleaning the dust off your beloved obesseion ps3kyacat

what is that suppose to mean I am on my ps3 everyday and it still gets dust.

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microsoft is so stupid. and it saddens me millions of people bought xbox because theyre getting gyped. through hd players, overrated games, and online fees just to buy more games. microsoft is evil. look up illuminati and microsoft on yahoo.
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#73 ceruxx
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This is the stupidest thing I've ever read.

Something about microsoft buying all the JRPGs does kind of piss me off though. Idk why.

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#74 AndYOU
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I didn't read the TC's entire post. I think MS may become a cable/phone/internet provider soon though, so they can compete even more:P
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It's called Business. Seriously, grow up.

"Evil" companies don't exist. None of them give a damn about you.

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Wow, just wow.
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[QUOTE="kyacat"]tc shouldn't you be cleaning the dust off your beloved obesseion ps3Iceman2911

what is that suppose to mean I am on my ps3 everyday and it still gets dust.

not you iceman you're pretty cool and I just wonder of TC really has ps3 or he/she bored of their ps3 already
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Lets all be communists and have only 1 console and everything is nice and happy la la la la la.
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My subconcious is telling me that if the success of the Xbox franchise continues with the 360's successor, I will go and invest in one.
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]If Microsoft wasn't a competeive company they wouldn't be buying out other companies. They are competing against other companies who do the same thing. When a company is on top they try to stay on top. If someoen comes up with somethign better chances are the larger company will try to buy them out so they can remain competitive. An example would be google and their former acquisition of the search engine formerly made by the makers of cuil.com. MS is not the only company who buys out lower companies to increase the reliability of it's products to remain competitive.Tiefster

Like I said in my post, MS technically competes but uses a non-competitive strategy. I also stated that many other companies do this, I think you're misinterpretting what I'm saying.

Sony and Nintendo have a different way of competing than MS. While everyone picks up studios and revives them here and there MS has gone out of their way it seems not to absorb studios but rather throw money at 3rd parties for sometimes not even exclusive games, sometimes it's only a timed exclusive. It's a different strategy as opposed to how it has been in the past.

If MS actually bought some studios it'd be a different story, but aside from a handful of acquisitions from last gen they've been stagnant on the front and actually lost a studio. MS not scooping up Itagaki was almost all the proof I ever needed of their strategy.

Don't preach to me about being competitive either, I've worked in resturaunt/catering business for 5 years, I know business competition.

You work in Mc Donalds for 5 years does not make you a business genious, sorry. Teh evil microdevil rules all.

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Microsoft has gotten a bad rep among lot of people, there's no denying it. And yes, other companies like Sony do questionable things as well in the name of profit, but since the thread was about MS it doesn't really matter.

MS could be doing far better if it would take a softer approach every now and then. Lets looks at for e.g. GFWL. It was a shoddy attempt at best, imagine if they would had started full cooperation with Steam to bring those GFW titles to PC, they could be in a lot better position now, but no, MS doesn't cooperate. Now they've had to make GFWL free because it failed so hard.

They tried to force gamers to use Vista to play GFWL games, a bully tactic especially considering that as they were pushing Vista with DX10, they were also paying devs to make these games DX9 for the 360. Well, thanks to all that Vista got a bad rep and a very slow start from which it still hasn't really recovered.

With the RROD they chose to fix the problem later in exchange for a headstart, but also got a bad rep once again. Lucky for them PS3 was a failure as well and Wii targeted different audience, otherwise they'd been screwed.

You could propably write 1000 page essays about Microsoft's business tactics, but I don't see the point. People know this all already, and it's not subconsciously.

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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"]Other companies support HD_DVD mostly because Toshiba give them money or promotional benefits. Toshiba did that beacause it believed it had a chance to win the war. It believed so because Microsoft pledged its support. However Microsoft was telling the world, including Xbox 360 gamers, to support HD-DVD, a product Microsoft didn't have enough confidence in to have it built into Xbox 360. It was preaching what it didnt' practice. Very bad.

Microsoft reached dictator status, and it was corrupted, very much so. Why do you think countries all over the world found Microsoft guilty? And that's my point: Microsoft has been and continued to act like a bully, and as such, it will not win internet search or the console war. Human beings have a built-in hatred towards bullies.

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As mentioned before MS supports charities. Actually their annual support for charities outweighs most of what charity organizations are even worth. They are the number 1 contributer to charities world wide. You call that bullying? You are just trying to find another thing to blame MS for. You're making Toshiba out to be this little follower who know absolutely nothing about the business and when big ba dMS came along and put their *full* support (Which they never actually did and they stated so numerous times and put far more support behind digital downloads) behind Toshiba they just folowed along like little puppies. Toshiba is a large company, they didn't get large by being stupid. They were promoting their new format long before MS came into the picture. The only reason MS came into the picture is, you are correct, to lengthen the format war but don't think that made Toshiba think "OH wow we may actually win. We don't have to gain any more support because we have MS." Thats rubbish.

It's great that they suppot charities in a big way. I can respect that. But at the same time, I have to see their charities as it is: most of it is in the form of software or other comupter related items, which costs them very little while increasing the install base for their products vs. their competitors. There's also a self-interest in this charity work, namely they hope that the people who benefit from charity will later on buy their products.

They are not stupid. But they also factor in Microsoft's, Intel, and HP's support before they made the decision to fight the Blu-ray team. You can bet Microsoft pursuaded Intel and HP to throw their name in the ring. Turned out, Toshiba basically fought alone while Microsoft and the others sat safely in the sidelines. Microsoft was basically preaching to Toshiba and 360 owners that HD DVD was better than Blu-ray. However, they didn't pratice what they preached because none of the 360 SKUs had HD-DVD built in. So it's Toshiba and the 360 owners who got burned. There's no question that Microsoft's involvement in format war was dispicable.

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#83 Sihanouk
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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Other companies support HD_DVD mostly because Toshiba give them money or promotional benefits. Toshiba did that beacause it believed it had a chance to win the war. It believed so because Microsoft pledged its support. However Microsoft was telling the world, including Xbox 360 gamers, to support HD-DVD, a product Microsoft didn't have enough confidence in to have it built into Xbox 360. It was preaching what it didnt' practice. Very bad.

farrell2k

You do realize that HD-DVD was not available when the 360 was being developed, and that it also was not available when the console launched, right?

You realize tha Microsoft said they sold the HD-DVD add on to give their customers a choice, right? Well, that was HD-DVD was fighting a losing war. Now that Blu-ray has won, they did give their consumers chocie by builing a 360 SKU with built-in Blu-ray or a Blu-ray add-on? They can still do that now. Where's the chocie?

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#84 Gen007
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

Wow that is pretty fanboyish even going by system war standards.

Dreams-Visions

I have to agree.

this is awfully extreme. and I've seen a lot of posts here.

this is one one f them moments when i began to visualize the person that takes the time to write this and it dosent matter wheather their serious or just playing around because either way its lookin quite sad

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#85 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

Wow that is pretty fanboyish even going by system war standards.

Dreams-Visions

I have to agree.

this is awfully extreme. and I've seen a lot of posts here.

this is what happens when people take the console wars abit too seriously..

the TC has been making thread's like this for sometime now..and abit conserning.

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#86 st1ka
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Unless you appreciate deep thinking, this thread is not for you. I find the video gaming industry very interesting, yet the more I think about it the more I realize why Microsoft will not be the best in internet search and video gaming. Microsoft is simply making too many enemies. As smart as it is, it does not realize that its actions over the years have frightened the human subconscious into perceiving Microsoft as a company not to be trusted with too much control or too much wealth.

1) When it controlled Windows, it used its monopoly to force computer makers and users to adopt Internet Explorer by default. It also used its windows monopoly in other computer related industries. The world found Microsoft guilty of abusing its monopoly and fined the company billions. The subconsious of people all over the world will forever remember Microsoft as a company not to be trusted with too much control of any industry.

2) Microsofts now tries to compete in too many industries, and a long the way it makes enemies in the following areas: operating systems, servers, databases, word processing, spreadsheets, software development suites, HD formats, advertizements, cable news and last but not least video gaming. In every area, Microsoft does not hesitate to do whatever it can to win, so long as it can get away with it. As such, Microsoft has tried to use its monoplies and wealth to its advantage against all competitors. No one likes to see a bully succeeds. It's built into the human subconcious.

Not only is microsoft making enemies with its competitors, it also makes enemies with people who read or hear about their business pratices. Take HD DVD vs. Blu-ray for example. Microsoft uses its money and influence to convince Toshiba to fight alone against Blu-ray. It told Xbox 360 owners that HD DVD was better, but it refused to make an Xbox 360 SKU with HD DVD built in. It's like Microsoft gave Toshiba a gun to fight while it sat on the sidelines, hoping the fight would continue forever, consumers and the entire movie industry be damned. Microsoft was a company willing to throw money around just to perpetuate a war.

Take another example of abusing its wealth in video games. Instead of creating more new exclusives, it pays 3rd party publishers to to release games on its console first. Now, 360 owners like it just fine. But in the back of their minds, their subconscious sees Microsof as a bully using pure wealth, not creativity or hardwork, as a means to achieve its ends. I would respect Microsoft a lot more if uses the money to create new exclusives or to lower the price of its consoles. Using money to obtain timed exlusives is too much of a bullying, I-am-richer-than-you tactic.

Now some of you might think I am writing this because I fear Microsoft will be the winner of the console war. Far from it. I have absolutely no doubt Microsoft will be in last place this genereation. I sincerely feel Microsoft is the most evil gaming company this generation, especially factoring in the lies and denials it offered regarding RROD.

Sihanouk

jealous much?

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#87 -DrRobotnik-
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A company is evil:lol: Hilarious dude. Dont read into things so much...
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#88 sam280992
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To be honest, you need to go out more.
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Best.

Post.

Ever.

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#90 DJCUEBALL
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M$ company practice has always been copy the competition or buy them.
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#91 lawlessx
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M$ company practice has always been copy the competition or buy them.DJCUEBALL

so what is XBL a rip off of?

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M$ company practice has always been copy the competition or buy them.DJCUEBALL

$ony copies, too. But they just can't pony up the dough to buy a company out. All these companies are here for one reason, and can you guess what that reason is? "It's all about da money!" We can stop demonizing and appreciate capitalism at work.

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#93 xscrapzx
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Ah yes the old Microsoft is evil and ruining every business in man kind cliche. No Sony has never done any of those things you mentioned, neither has Nintendo or EA, AT&T, Apple, Exxon. No all these companies that I mentioned are great angel companies that care about us consumers and really break their backs to do anything for US! You sir are really dillusional to really think that MS is the only company in the entire world that tries everything in its power to get ahead of its competition or to try to make them selfs look good or not their fault after they have done wrong. I think you really went out on a limb here. :|
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#94 Riverwolf007
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Attacking teh SUBCONSIOUS!!!!!! :lol: Oh man, that's a good one.

MS is teh Debbil thread # 234,529.

Dat mean old Debbil gonna getcha with its mean ol' Debbil money LOOKOUT!!!

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[QUOTE="DJCUEBALL"]M$ company practice has always been copy the competition or buy them.BioShockOwnz

$ony copies, too. But they just can't pony up the dough to buy a company out. All these companies are here for one reason, and can you guess what that reason is? "It's all about da money!" We can stop demonizing and appreciate capitalism at work.

Yes Sony copies also, but they have come up with innovative products. I can give you a list of things MS has copied.

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#96 DJCUEBALL
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[QUOTE="DJCUEBALL"]M$ company practice has always been copy the competition or buy them.lawlessx

so what is XBL a rip off of?

XBL is just another online service. No company has rights to any online service.

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#97 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="DJCUEBALL"]M$ company practice has always been copy the competition or buy them.DJCUEBALL

$ony copies, too. But they just can't pony up the dough to buy a company out. All these companies are here for one reason, and can you guess what that reason is? "It's all about da money!" We can stop demonizing and appreciate capitalism at work.

Yes Sony copies also, but they have come up with innovative products. I can give you a list of things MS has copied.

And so has Microsoft. Point the finger all you want, but they all do it.

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#98 flatline711
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]

Wow that is pretty fanboyish even going by system war standards.

lawlessx

I have to agree.

this is awfully extreme. and I've seen a lot of posts here.

this is what happens when people take the console wars abit too seriously..

the TC has been making thread's like this for sometime now..and abit conserning.

No point in trying to stop him now. He either takes stuff way too seriously, or he's craving attention. Either way it's pretty sad and pathetic.
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#99 gensigns
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Wow! Someone's tinfoil hat is wound up a little to tight!

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#100 clembo1990
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Freud would be turning in his grave...

besides if you did psychology even at A-level you'd know that there's no such thing as the sub-concious, it's called the unconcious mind.