Microsoft only discussing Gears of War 3/Halo Reach at event.

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

E3 will likely bring out the big guns but even here I'd say they will probably have some sort of...

:P

Snugenz

I just hope that one of the surprises is not FFvsXIII because then the development will be hampered by the DVD9 space limitation and then they'll need to cut, compress and change many things.

Like they had to do with FFXIII right ... oh wait no they didnt :roll:

Well, they'll probably discuss Sesame Street and Fraggle Rock too.

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[QUOTE="Gue1"]

I just hope that one of the surprises is not FFvsXIII because then the development will be hampered by the DVD9 space limitation and then they'll need to cut, compress and change many things.

MFDOOM1983

Like they had to do with FFXIII right ... oh wait no they didnt :roll:

They did cut a bunch of content, it had nothing to do with DVD9 however.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

weren't you supposed to sell your 360 already? get on with it...

lazerface216

i really wouldn't count on it if i were you.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Like they had to do with FFXIII right ... oh wait no they didnt :roll:

Snugenz

They did cut a bunch of content, it had nothing to do with DVD9 however.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]As long as I get me some Forza 4 footage/info, I'll be a very happy "lemming". (...Who happens to be playing a PS3 for the last two months :P)Nintendonly

Somebody over at NeoGAF stated that Greenburg said there won't be any 4za details at this event.

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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] I thought they cut a bunch of content out of ff13?

Locutus_Picard

They did cut a bunch of content, it had nothing to do with DVD9 however.

Could of sworn i told tc to wait till after the event to troll it. You might end up looking silly when its all overbigboss5ak

um...and your link proves what exactly? its a set of random files and docs. :roll:

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] I thought they cut a bunch of content out of ff13?

They did cut a bunch of content, it had nothing to do with DVD9 however.

[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

They did cut a bunch of content, it had nothing to do with DVD9 however.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"] That's what they want you to believe...it would be bad PR acknowledging to gimp your game to make it work on a gimped console.Locutus_Picard

No, Crystal Tools was always a multiplatform engine-

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2008/02/finalfantasy/

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"] That's what they want you to believe...it would be bad PR acknowledging to gimp your game to make it work on a gimped console.Locutus_Picard

Noooooo They needed to rework the graphics subsets they did not remake the engine from scratch please oh please Let us know how Square enix remade the entire games structure, its very nature in under a years time.. A game that was in development for over 4 years some how in a years time completely changed its very scope, characters, maps, weapons, graphics...etc all which you have made claim in the past when it comes to this subject. you and not a single one of your bretheren that believe this fallacy have brought to bear a single bit of factual proof to the table the other side has, you haven't even brought forth a logical debate the other side has.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] *laughs* I thought we were beyond this, where folks like you made this claim and then folks like me not only showed you proof it wasn't so in the form of facts but actual LOGICAL assumptions it wasn't true. But yes please do...please tell us. Square enix changed the very nature of the game...hell they remade the game in under a years time :roll:WilliamRLBaker

Noooooo They needed to rework the graphics subsets they did not remake the engine from scratch please oh please Let us know how Square enix remade the entire games structure, its very nature in under a years time.. A game that was in development for over 4 years some how in a years time completely changed its very scope, characters, maps, weapons, graphics...etc all which you have made claim in the past when it comes to this subject. you and not a single one of your bretheren that believe this fallacy have brought to bear a single bit of factual proof to the table the other side has, you haven't even brought forth a logical debate the other side has.

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[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"] they needed to remake the engine to work on a 360...nuff said

Locutus_Picard

Noooooo They needed to rework the graphics subsets they did not remake the engine from scratch please oh please Let us know how Square enix remade the entire games structure, its very nature in under a years time.. A game that was in development for over 4 years some how in a years time completely changed its very scope, characters, maps, weapons, graphics...etc all which you have made claim in the past when it comes to this subject. you and not a single one of your bretheren that believe this fallacy have brought to bear a single bit of factual proof to the table the other side has, you haven't even brought forth a logical debate the other side has.

um excuse me? *** who do you think you are? Oh heres this discussion closed. you don't decide when discussions end here thank you very much.

So lets get this straight. A load of content was cut from the game and its VERY NATURE was changed *no cities* because graphics work had to be done in UNDER a years time it wasn't a year or over a year it was under a year something on 10 months before the game was reported going gold. Um wheres your proof content was cut because of the 360 or dvd 9? I'm not seeing it...

All I'm seeing is that they had to work on graphical engine subsets within Crystal tools they didn't remake the whole engine from scratch.
Its even more illogical to believe that a game that was in development for over 4 years before the 360 version was even worked upon or announced had content cut because of under a years time of ""supposed"" lost development. Then you have the fact for something on 7 months of those 10 months other teams were working on it, the main FF13 and Versus teams were still working on the ps3 versions of those games.

**** ** I'm not even gonan argue with you about this its already been debated and We were proven right there is no logical way, no debatable way to say content was cut because of anything but the usual development process.

Good, your post is finally readable and understandable now.
Yes they did make an engine from scratch, just read the article, it's not a case of retweaking an engine to make it work on a 360 it's making a an entire new engine to make it at least run on the 360. And the 360 version still has inferior graphics and FMV's but the latter is understable due to compression. You make out of it what you want to, be it that the developers were lazy/inexperienced when developing for the 360...even though they made an entire different engine to make it work and optimize it for 360...which is unusual for multiplat games or that the 360 is indeed gimped.
Also announcing that a lot of content was cut due to ''pacing issues''...which is funny since I have never heard that one before in all of square's past titles, not since their main series went multiplat for the first time. Coincidental huh?
But now coming with FFXIII-2?

It's clear to me that they had to make a FFXIII-2 since all their ideas couldn't be contained in a tiny DVD9 of the 360...clocking in at an HUMONGEOUS 6 GB usable data.
And look at Versus 13, it's raming up to be something epic. And that one my good sir, is exclusive. See what I'm getting at?
The 360 development gimped their game, either due hardware issues or development wise leading to an overall worse game then it was projected at first.

And I was right.

And I was right.

Nintendonly

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And I was right.

Ravensmash

Really? Seriously? Honestly?

Nothing else that Major Nelson posted is worth noting.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

And I was right.

Nintendonly

Really? Seriously? Honestly?

Nothing else that Major Nelson posted is worth noting.

And I was right.

Nintendonly

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] No you weren't.Ravensmash

Really? Seriously? Honestly?

Nothing else that Major Nelson posted is worth noting.

This is System Wars. Either discuss exclusives with a 9/10 or greater score, or get out.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

Really? Seriously? Honestly?

Nothing else that Major Nelson posted is worth noting.

Nintendonly

This is System Wars. Either discuss exclusives with a 9/10 or greater score, or get out.

Im kind of confused. Why do you post all these things talking about 360 exclusives/news etc. yet you mock lemmings and clearly don't give a damn about xbox. Please do explain.

[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Maybe so, but you weren't right. They discussed more than what you said.xXCombatWombat

This is System Wars. Either discuss exclusives with a 9/10 or greater score, or get out.

Im kind of confused. Why do you post all these things talking about 360 exclusives/news etc. yet you mock lemmings and clearly don't give a damn about xbox. Please do explain.

It's called enlightening people? Had there been no groundbreaking sales of the Xbox 360, there would be a craptoon of incentives for Microsoft to tempt gamers to their platform. The very fact that it continues to sell well at mediocrity means you guys won't be getting your Battletoads, your Phantom Dusts, or even your Crimson Skieseses.

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[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

This is System Wars. Either discuss exclusives with a 9/10 or greater score, or get out.

Nintendonly

Im kind of confused. Why do you post all these things talking about 360 exclusives/news etc. yet you mock lemmings and clearly don't give a damn about xbox. Please do explain.

It's called enlightening people? Had there been no groundbreaking sales of the Xbox 360, there would be a craptoon of incentives for Microsoft to tempt gamers to their platform. The very fact that it continues to sell well at mediocrity means you guys won't be getting your Battletoads, your Phantom Dusts, or even your Crimson Skieseses.

And who exactly are you enlightening? I certainly don't feel enlightened after reading your banter over the last couple of threads.

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[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

This is System Wars. Either discuss exclusives with a 9/10 or greater score, or get out.

Nintendonly

Im kind of confused. Why do you post all these things talking about 360 exclusives/news etc. yet you mock lemmings and clearly don't give a damn about xbox. Please do explain.

It's called enlightening people? Had there been no groundbreaking sales of the Xbox 360, there would be a craptoon of incentives for Microsoft to tempt gamers to their platform. The very fact that it continues to sell well at mediocrity means you guys won't be getting your Battletoads, your Phantom Dusts, or even your Crimson Skieseses.

And I was right.

Nintendonly

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[QUOTE="xXCombatWombat"]

Im kind of confused. Why do you post all these things talking about 360 exclusives/news etc. yet you mock lemmings and clearly don't give a damn about xbox. Please do explain.

Ravensmash

It's called enlightening people? Had there been no groundbreaking sales of the Xbox 360, there would be a craptoon of incentives for Microsoft to tempt gamers to their platform. The very fact that it continues to sell well at mediocrity means you guys won't be getting your Battletoads, your Phantom Dusts, or even your Crimson Skieseses.

This is System Wars. Isn't that the way we're supposed to be? :P

If we were discussing this news in real life, I wouldn't be such a "douche". I would probably just say "that suck, man" and leave it at that.

Yet another Nintendonly thread in his crusade to prove to himself that he doesn't want a 360! Get a PS3 and get outta here, m'boy!

Gears/Halo.....when idea's run dry, milk a franchise dry.dvalo9

Yet another Nintendonly thread in his crusade to prove to himself that he doesn't want a 360! Get a PS3 and get outta here, m'boy!

TehOverkill

[QUOTE="xXCombatWombat"]

[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

This is System Wars. Either discuss exclusives with a 9/10 or greater score, or get out.

Nintendonly

Im kind of confused. Why do you post all these things talking about 360 exclusives/news etc. yet you mock lemmings and clearly don't give a damn about xbox. Please do explain.

[QUOTE="dvalo9"]Gears/Halo.....when idea's run dry, milk a franchise dry.Ravensmash

[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

[QUOTE="xXCombatWombat"]

Im kind of confused. Why do you post all these things talking about 360 exclusives/news etc. yet you mock lemmings and clearly don't give a damn about xbox. Please do explain.

Verge_6

How is saving you the troubleof F5ing MajorNelson.com wasting your time?

Because it's a MS franchise. Duh.Verge_6

Actually... guh, not worth it.

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[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]It's called enlightening people?Nintendonly

How is saving you the troubleof F5ing MajorNelson.com wasting your time?

[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] Funny, I don't feel enlightened. I do, however, feel frustrated at having my time wasted.

Verge_6

How is saving you the troubleof F5ing MajorNelson.com wasting your time?

In other words, you have yourself to blame, then.

Oh, and now since you want to start something, I hope you realize that the Gears of War IP is not Microsoft's, and Epic Games will be making it multiplatform after GeoW3.

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[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

How is saving you the troubleof F5ing MajorNelson.com wasting your time?Nintendonly

In other words, you have yourself to blame, then.

Oh, and now since you want to start something, I hope you realize that the Gears of War IP is not Microsoft's, and Epic Games will be making it multiplatform after GeoW3.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

How is saving you the troubleof F5ing MajorNelson.com wasting your time?Nintendonly

In other words, you have yourself to blame, then.

Oh, and now since you want to start something, I hope you realize that the Gears of War IP is not Microsoft's, and Epic Games will be making it multiplatform after GeoW3.

Link to Gears 3 being multiplat, as well.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

How is saving you the troubleof F5ing MajorNelson.com wasting your time?Nintendonly

In other words, you have yourself to blame, then.

Oh, and now since you want to start something, I hope you realize that the Gears of War IP is not Microsoft's, and Epic Games will be making it multiplatform after GeoW3.

Stop making a fool out of yourself (hahaha). Epic never said that, and I bet your balls it ain't going to remove Microsoft's exclusivity over it.

[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] Because I clicked and read this waste of bandwidth?

TehOverkill

In other words, you have yourself to blame, then.

Oh, and now since you want to start something, I hope you realize that the Gears of War IP is not Microsoft's, and Epic Games will be making it multiplatform after GeoW3.

Stop making a fool out of yourself (hahaha). Epic never said that, and I bet your balls it ain't going to remove Microsoft's exclusivity over it.

That is the exact same thing lemmings said about theMass Effect series.

Unless Microsoft owns the IP, it's exclusivity is always going to be questionable.

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[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

In other words, you have yourself to blame, then.

Oh, and now since you want to start something, I hope you realize that the Gears of War IP is not Microsoft's, and Epic Games will be making it multiplatform after GeoW3.

Nintendonly

Stop making a fool out of yourself (hahaha). Epic never said that, and I bet your balls it ain't going to remove Microsoft's exclusivity over it.

That is the exact same thing lemmings said about theMass Effect series.

Unless Microsoft owns the IP, it's exclusivity is always going to be questionable.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/244339/news/pachter-gears-of-war-could-come-to-ps3/

[QUOTE="TehOverkill"]

[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

In other words, you have yourself to blame, then.

Oh, and now since you want to start something, I hope you realize that the Gears of War IP is not Microsoft's, and Epic Games will be making it multiplatform after GeoW3.

Nintendonly

Stop making a fool out of yourself (hahaha). Epic never said that, and I bet your balls it ain't going to remove Microsoft's exclusivity over it.

That is the exact same thing lemmings said about theMass Effect series.

Unless Microsoft owns the IP, it's exclusivity is always going to be questionable.

[QUOTE="TehOverkill"]

[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

In other words, you have yourself to blame, then.

Oh, and now since you want to start something, I hope you realize that the Gears of War IP is not Microsoft's, and Epic Games will be making it multiplatform after GeoW3.

Nintendonly

Stop making a fool out of yourself (hahaha). Epic never said that, and I bet your balls it ain't going to remove Microsoft's exclusivity over it.

That is the exact same thing lemmings said about theMass Effect series.

Unless Microsoft owns the IP, it's exclusivity is always going to be questionable.

It isn't questionable. Is Gears of War 2 on the PS3 or the Wii? Come talk to me when it is.

There's a difference between Mass Effect and Gears of War: Microsoft publishes GeoW to hell and beyond. Why would Epic want to risk a game that sells several millions of copies with MS investing hordes of money in advertising, just to have it on another platform, where it would sell considerably less?

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/244339/news/pachter-gears-of-war-could-come-to-ps3/

Nintendonly