Microsoft redesigns the 360 and STILL doesn't have a slot disc drive?

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#101 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I've been reading this thread since I was suspended without the ability to reply and Really I can't believe some of the comments being made.

A few examples.
Slot drives are better then trey drives.
Tray drives are old technology.
slot drives are more reliable.


slot drives being better is simply opinion, I like tray drives more.
does any one here know how old slot drives are? go back to the late 80's and you'll start seeing cars use them slot drives are old too, and tray drives are used in all most every thing where slot drives aren't used so thats what 70% of things?

slot drives are less reliable then tray drives this is a simple fact, a comparibly built and price tray drive will allways outpreform a slot drive, tray drives are trusted and reliable tech, the only reason the ones in original 360 units were faulty is because of cheapness if they had been of higher build quality and price they wouldn't have the problems they do.

slot drives and tray drives work exactly the same except for the entry method the inside guts work exactly the same, A disc is take into the unit by either a tray or griping plate, and it put ontop of a spinner, a magnetic restrictor plate is placed ontop of the disc and a magnetic field keeps the plate puting preasure down on the disc so it stays in place as it spins.

So please stop with that stuff that slot drives are more reliable when both methods past the insertion method work exactly the same.

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Your claim is not a fact, it is an opinion. What is "reliable" is subjective to one's thoughts, experiences,and perspectives.

No...No...I'm pretty sure its a fact. Tray drives made in vastly more things then slot drives=more tested. Tray drives older=more tested. The fact that 360 tray drives failed is because they were of cheaper production, Or at you going to claim, that if the tray drive in the 360 was of superior and more expensive construction it would have still failed as it did at times when scratching discs? No tray drives are an older, and more tested technology and when built to the same standards as a slot drive will preform better in terms of reliability.

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#102 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Ringx55"]The problem with disc trays is that if you move the base when the disc is spinning it could scratch or even worse, pop out and break. I'd rather have suction then a disc-tray any day.

And the problems with slot drives are (1) they are more prone to dust intrusion since they're open to the outside, and (2) if the drive dies with your disc still inside, it's a chore trying to get it out again (tray drives, OTOH, usually feature a manual ejector mechanism).
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#103 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="Ultimate-Basicz"][QUOTE="BuryMe"]

So? What's wrong with disc trays?

I'm not 100% sure but i think that the trays are more likely to damage the disks

only if you don't stop it before it ejects, it'll land on the tray and spin around, the slot type cdrom in't anything new i used to have one on my pc like 10 years ago, its completely possible to scratch the discs inserting or removing them and if it gets stuck... you'll have to tear that sucker apart.
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#104 clone01
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Because how you insert the disc makes the game play way better!! :o

VanDammFan

Because tell that story to the millions of people that have disc drive problems on their awesome state of the art 360...slot drive is better just in case you didnt know..

is that why the high end, $10,000 macs and PCs that i use at work have tray drives? and for the record, i have never once had a problem with a disc tray, on the 360 or any other device.
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#105 VanDammFan
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is that why the high end, $10,000 macs and PCs that i use at work have tray drives? and for the record, i have never once had a problem with a disc tray, on the 360 or any other device.

I have seen design flaws in everything from million $$$ homes to cars costing 500G. Price and the fact that "people use it" makes no difference. It will take some time, but in the near future people will finally admit that the 360 was nothing more than a scrap piece project that took everyone for their money. Disc drive problems, rrod, errors ect ect..been there done that and have learned my lesson.

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#106 clone01
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I have seen design flaws in everything from million $$$ homes to cars costing 500G. Price and the fact that "people use it" makes no difference. It will take some time, but in the near future people will finally admit that the 360 was nothing more than a scrap piece project that took everyone for their money. Disc drive problems, rrod, errors ect ect..been there done that and have learned my lesson.

VanDammFan

but again, if the slot drive works so well, why do pc's not use it? you've provided absolutely zero evidence to support your claim.

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#107 monson21502
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thats not as bad as releasing a 250 gig ps3slim with 2 usb ports. now that move is out and your ps3 eye takes up one of them that leaves you one to use on charging. thats really cheap of sony imo

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#108 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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umm......ok.
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#109 toxicmog
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my PC must be really old fashioned, still uses a disc tray. As slot drives are unreliable!
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#110 heretrix
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LMAO. Only in System Wars.......

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#111 genaroll
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Too bad with the 360 you can play installed games off the harddrive but the ps3 the disk needs to be in at all times.
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#112 VanDammFan
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Too bad with the 360 you can play installed games off the harddrive but the ps3 the disk needs to be in at all times.genaroll

I wonder why MS decided to do this???..humm....could it be that it puts less wear and tare on the disc drive?...YEP..I think so..MS covers up their messy tracks every day. BRAVO!!

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#113 LOXO7
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Tray drives are obsolete in a console that can move vertically and horizontally. I blame it for the disk scratches on the 360.
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#114 jessmaster13
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Does it really matter?

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#115 samuraiguns
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[QUOTE="LordRork"]

I'd rather have a tray drive that I know I can get a disc out of than a slot drive where it's going to be exceptionally difficult if the worst happens...

HuusAsking
Which begs the question. How do you dislodge a disc stuck in a dead slot drive? At least with tray drives, a paperclip usually provides the means to manually eject the tray.

I just open up my system(s)...not that hard.
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#116 Inger1
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The tray drive involves the extra step of having to have to wait for the try to open before a disc can be placed inside; a slot drive simply involves sliding the disc into the slot. Same thing with disc removal, with the slot you simply push eject and the disc is removed; with the tray I have to go to the extra step of also having to have to close the drive after taking my disc out.

:roll:

Obvious sarcasm aside, whats the difference? If anything I feel more comfortable with a tray... Whenever I use a slot drive I always feel like I'm going to wreck it by pushing too hard on the disc when trying to get it to slide in.

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#117 imprezawrx500
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seriously who cares? both work fine and disk trays are better when they jam.
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#118 Duckyindiana
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Does it really matter?

jessmaster13
No not to most people but it does to cow's for some reason!!