Microsoft Removes 1200 Point Option

Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?angelkimne

Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?angelkimne

Seriously, too much logic me thinks. :P

Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?angelkimne

Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?angelkimne

Off Topic : I noticed your brand new sig. Arrested Development is amazing, I bought the DVD's back when they first came out to show my love to Fox and the show...I'm glad Netflix and Fox has helped promote the show to a new generation of viewers.

Edit : Off Topic 2 : I noticed now your sig is sporting another of my favorite DVD box sets, Firefly. Congrats on the great taste. :P

Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?angelkimne

Either way, the point system still blows, especially when you have DLC that costs 560 points.

Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?angelkimne

I live in the UK and i don't think there ever was an option to buy 1200msp but i could be wrong.Duckyindiana

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?Rockman999

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?Nedemis

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?SpinoRaptor24

Either way, the point system still blows, especially when you have DLC that costs 560 points.

That's true, also 320 points, etc. They very recently made strides to make a little bit easier not to get swindled due to that lawsuit regarding the points, but it's 2010...they half of a decade so far to enjoy the proceeds from the other more archaic system for a long, long while. I guess we should be thankful for the small steps, but do agree, the awkward pricing needs to go.

How about having 1200 for convenience? The store you're at could be out of 400 and/or 800 M$P.
They're probably doing this to see the backlash...since it will be absent next candidate for removal will be 400 M$P.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?delta3074

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?delta3074

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?Nedemis

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?Rockman999

[QUOTE="Rockman999"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?Nedemis

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?Sandvichman

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]I don't know, I read it was more expensive that way.Rockman999

Er... 400 + 400 + 400 = 1200 & 800 + 400 = 1200...

From what I can tell, 1200 was unneeded.

[QUOTE="Rockman999"][QUOTE="Nedemis"] yep...and according to the TC, you've just spun the news in a way that defends MS and their call with removing this previously unneeded points option. Nedemis

Er... 400 + 400 + 400 = 1200 & 800 + 400 = 1200...

From what I can tell, 1200 was unneeded.

jamejame

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]How is it and unneeded option when most arcade games and DLC cost $15.SolidTy

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[QUOTE="Nedemis"] Most DON'T cost 1200 points. Most games and DLC run 800 points and just because Activision is overcharging people for horrible map packs doesn't mean that that's the status quo. I would say that MAYBE 1 out of 20 XBLA games or DLC cost 1200 points at the very most.SecretPolice

I don't need to take that into consideration, because that's not my point...Besides, I already know that. :o My point was that he was unaware of the $15 Status Quo, and I wanted to update him to that fact. :P

Another funny fact, the example I used was Braid, and The creator Jonathan Blow wanted it to be $10, and M$ said nope, it's $15...again, my point was developers took notice and times changed for 1st and 3rd Party publishers. Obviously old games are still going to be cheap though, and like I said before, price reductions do happen.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Nedemis"] Most DON'T cost 1200 points. Most games and DLC run 800 points and just because Activision is overcharging people for horrible map packs doesn't mean that that's the status quo. I would say that MAYBE 1 out of 20 XBLA games or DLC cost 1200 points at the very most.SecretPolice

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]Actually, when the 360 came out in 2005, the two major pricepoints for XBLA games were $5 and $10...however, the XBLA game Braid tested the market for the $15 dollar DL game, and it was a success. Since then, we've seen the pricepoints of the 360 XBLA games go now to $10-$15...but overtime some games have been reduced in price (New TMNT for example.)

SolidTy

I don't need to take that into consideration, because that's not my point...Besides, I already know that. :o My point was that he was unaware of the $15 Status Quo, and I wanted to update him to that fact. :P

Another funny fact, the example I used was Braid, and The creator Jonathan Blow wanted it to be $10, and M$ said nope, it's $15...again, my point was developers took notice and times changed for 1st and 3rd Party publishers.

Er... 400 + 400 + 400 = 1200 & 800 + 400 = 1200...

From what I can tell, 1200 was unneeded.

jamejame

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]Actually, when the 360 came out in 2005, the two major pricepoints for XBLA games were $5 and $10...however, the XBLA game Braid tested the market for the $15 dollar DL game, and it was a success. Since then, we've seen the pricepoints of the 360 XBLA games go now to $10-$15...but overtime some games have been reduced in price (New TMNT for example.)

SolidTy

I don't need to take that into consideration, because that's not my point...Besides, I already know that. :o My point was that he was unaware of the $15 Status Quo, and I wanted to update him to that fact. :P

Another funny fact, the example I used was Braid, and The creator Jonathan Blow wanted it to be $10, and M$ said nope, it's $15...again, my point was developers took notice and times changed for 1st and 3rd Party publishers.

Oh and don't fib, you had no idea that the cap had been raised to 2 GB - ya could have just thanked me for the info and moved on. :lol:

:P j/k bout that last part.

[QUOTE="jamejame"]

Er... 400 + 400 + 400 = 1200 & 800 + 400 = 1200...

From what I can tell, 1200 was unneeded.

reyad-u

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]But you must take into consideration the size of the games. The first year or two MS had a 50 MB cap for XBLA games and these days I think it 2 GB hard cap.:o

Nedemis

I don't need to take that into consideration, because that's not my point...Besides, I already know that. My point was that he was unaware of the $15 Status Quo, and I wanted to update him to that fact.

Another funny fact, the example I used was Braid, and The creator Jonathan Blow wanted it to be $10, and M$ said nope, it's $15...again, my point was developers took notice and times changed for 1st and 3rd Party publishers. Obviously old games are still going to be cheap though, and like I said before, price reductions do happen.

"...just because Activision is overcharging people for horrible map packs doesn't mean that that's the status quo..."

which unchecked, would lead many readers in this thread to believe that $15 isn't the standard new price point used by 3rd and 1st Party games today. It's potentially misleading to a passingby reader or to the person you were chatting with, and while I don't know where this thread goes from here, it's odd to remove the 1200 point feature. Let's be honest, the 1200 point feature in this day and age was convenient, and now it's gone...and it's removal is strange. Easily rectified, but strange. It's an easy fix, but we do have to wonder why anyone at HQ bothered removing the already employed feature in the first place.

So, if you already knew congrats, but I've done my part educating the rest of SW today, so I guess we all win.:P

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]But you must take into consideration the size of the games. The first year or two MS had a 50 MB cap for XBLA games and these days I think it 2 GB hard cap.:o

SecretPolice

I don't need to take that into consideration, because that's not my point...Besides, I already know that. :o My point was that he was unaware of the $15 Status Quo, and I wanted to update him to that fact. :P

Another funny fact, the example I used was Braid, and The creator Jonathan Blow wanted it to be $10, and M$ said nope, it's $15...again, my point was developers took notice and times changed for 1st and 3rd Party publishers.

Oh and don't fib, you had no idea that the cap had been raised to 2 GB - ya could have just thanked me for the info and moved on. :lol:

:P j/k bout that last part.

Oh, I'm glad you were kidding, because I've made threads in SW about the caps as well as participated in SW many times about the caps, ranging from Castlevania : Symphony of the Night XBLA to Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix to Shadow Complex...all the way to present day. I had fun conversations in SW past about all of that. :P

hmmm 800+400...and infact its 1 cent cheaper to go that route...since its 9.99, and 4.99 thats 14.98...instead of paying 14.99...so thats 1 cent less.

Forget all that. Just remove any card below 5000 M$P and make your subscribers pay dearly for using the XBL marketplace!

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[QUOTE="jamejame"]

Er... 400 + 400 + 400 = 1200 & 800 + 400 = 1200...

From what I can tell, 1200 was unneeded.

Nedemis

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?Rockman999

So you don't have Xbox Live then? And you care because?

Either way, the point system still blows, especially when you have DLC that costs 560 points.SpinoRaptor24

The only plus for the points system is that everything has a universal price; 400 points means the same thing to someone in America as it does in Australia. Though I do wish they'd either let you buy any amount you specify or have more regular increments.

I live in the UK and i don't think there ever was an option to buy 1200msp but i could be wrong.Duckyindiana

IIRC this was just a USA, or NA specific trial.

That seems like a solution...:) I must confess, it is VERY odd to remove the 1200 feature though.

Off Topic : I noticed your brand new sig. Arrested Development is amazing, I bought the DVD's back when they first came out to show my love to Fox and the show...I'm glad Netflix and Fox has helped promote the show to a new generation of viewers.

SolidTy

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?SecretPolice

Seriously, too much logic me thinks. :P

Like people have pointed buy 800 and 400.

This removal of 1200 point is only for tricking people who are dumb or lack logic to buy 1600 points.

Whole MS point system is total screwing of customers, though.

Great, now remove all the other points options and do awaywith the points system itself. Its utterly pointless, it only exists to earn free money.

Oh dear...what ever will I do?! :cry:

Oh...I can just by 400 + 800 MS Points and get the same amount? What is this sorcery...

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]Can't you just buy 800 points + 400 points for the same price?Nedemis

i almost always buy 4000 at a time so no biggie for me but yeah the whole point system is pretty lame and needs to be changed

I always buy 1600 points at a time anyway but I could see this being an annoyance to some people.

and I buy cards, of course I'm spending ~$10 more.:roll:

not credit card points

That's ridiculous. Unless the 400 & 800 point purchases amount to the same cost as the 1200 points, then this is a blatant attempt at making more cash at the expense of the customers. I buy the 1500 points cards anyway, so it doesn't really bother me. They are already making a killing off of Arcade games. Banjo Kazooie & Perfect Dark cost $20 AUS each.