Wow the Vita and Wii U lasted longer.
They actually been waiting for a long time to move to next gen so no surprise. But I think with the whole 2020 situation I'm not sure can people afford a $500 console like last gen.
I have need to jump in here...
While it's easy to poke fun at the Xbox fans at this point in time... X1 isn't a simple single system... it's an ecosystem. X1, X1S, X1X... they're all essentially the same thing.
If you were to see Sony stop production on the Pro... it would still work with all PS4 software because it's still a PS4.
X1X owners have nothing to worry about as all X1 software will still work with it. The X1X isn't comparable to the PSV, Dreamcast, Virtual Boy, or any other short lifespan system. If anything... the X1X will become a collectors commodity and raise in value quicker than other systems have.
Just saying. 🤷🏻♂️
I have need to jump in here...
While it's easy to poke fun at the Xbox fans at this point in time... X1 isn't a simple single system... it's an ecosystem. X1, X1S, X1X... they're all essentially the same thing.
If you were to see Sony stop production on the Pro... it would still work with all PS4 software because it's still a PS4.
X1X owners have nothing to worry about as all X1 software will still work with it. The X1X isn't comparable to the PSV, Dreamcast, Virtual Boy, or any other short lifespan system. If anything... the X1X will become a collectors commodity and raise in value quicker than other systems have.
Just saying. 🤷🏻♂️
It's hasn't even been 3 years and Microsoft is going to discontinue Xbox One X. People that purchased one, how do you feel about your console possibly being an afterthought for the One S? Is it possible that any graphical upgrade over One S will require a Series console? https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/16/21327330/microsoft-xbox-one-x-s-digital-edition-discontinued
Makes sense. With two new Xboxes that do and play everything the X does, but better - why keep the obsolete? Probably enough supply out there to sustain them till November (4 months from now).
You realize the ps4 will be discontinued shortly after the ps5 launches, right? Sooner if the ps5 is rumoured to be backwards compatible with it.
The xboxone has 6 tflops, it's an early 4k system, It has 4 times the power than the ps4 and the ps4 still runs games at 1080p today. It could probably take a decade before the xbox one x becomes obsolete. All they will do is lower the resolution,I mean look at this gen , how long did it take before they were making games at a steady rate that made use of the power of the base ps4 and this with a console that was underpowered at release.
Games with that kind of quality just cost to much money to make and people with older consoles are still paying customers (xboxlive and ps plus) There is no new tech in the new systems that obsoletes previous tech and hasn't been for more than a decade. The new lighting systems with the rt cores can work independent, so as long as the xboxone x has a somewhat viable resolution games will continue to be released on it, or it would somehow has to run into a cpu or ram bottleneck, but the xboxone x is quite powerfull in that regard.
Heck i don't even see the point of the new consoles apart from the same reason the xboxone x was released, and that was give gamers more performance and resolution, the ps5 is probably even going to be more popular , since the ps4 pro is a weak 4k system, but even then the ps4 is still quite performant today, and if they continue to support the ps4 and ps4 pro the ps5 might be dead in the water as well.
Yep. Its a failure just like Microsoft. Good to see them stumbling all over themselves like morons. Why buy a Xbox if they're just going to release another more power console three years later?
@tdkmillsy:
Dude there is a shortage of units NOW.
https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Microsoft-All-Digital-Console-Wireless-Controller-360/dp/B07VVHCR6Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_15?dchild=1&keywords=xbox+on+s&qid=1594945599&sr=8-15
Before covid the xbox one X was been sold for as low as $299.
Si again where did you get that confirmation since you know no one knows the price.
Now i am not saying that will not be the casé,but is not confirmed.
NOTHING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS. Estimates, views and *** packet calculations applies to almost everything when it comes PS5 and SX.
Taking what we know with common sense, this is a wise and obvious move. If baby SX comes in at £$400 or more then it might not be.
Time will tell.
@ProtossRushX: "Trust Sony and PlayStation imo" really, didn't they drop support for the Vita pretty hard. In fact Sony tends to make peripherals and send them out to fend for themselves.
That said, I don't trust MS after the launch of the Xbox One, dropping Kinect and exclusives.
I guess it also wasn't very popular. This thing was usually on sale in the US for the past 2 years. Probably wasn't attractive at that $ 499 price point.
Probably stopping it too to prop up power of next gen.
Hope SAD stays. Probably $ 99 this black friday. Nice gift for kids to mess with when not playing mobile games.
If the Lockhart rumors are true this could make sense. So as to not conflict One X and Series S since they might have comparable GPUs and in the case Lockhart's is weaker which could be confusing for consumers. Now, about the SADE I'm a bit surprised to be honest, because I recall they mentioning strong sales of it. However, if Lockhart is all-digital as well, this could be the reason. These guys are clever. Just thoughts.
If anything MS is continuing support by making games cross-gen. I would be mad if I bought a PS4Pro considering they are dropping support for it so soon. I'm happy I stuck with my base PS4.
Why would you be? You bough a mid gen upgrade you knew what that represented.
And never the less you are are going to be left behind period,because that is how the console market has always work,now for MS is not that way because they want to make as much profits as they can to cover the hole the series X will let them profits wise.
That is the reason why MS say for the next year or 2,and not beyond if the xbox one doesn't really held back the series X why not keep supporting it like PC until the end? Oh yeah that is just damage control on MS side to justify having its games on xbox one for 2 years to cover the loss.
I don't have a problem with that strategy i have a problem with MS and lemmings pretending is not that way.
@Pedro: Cows are mad because they lost the power advantage this gen, and already the next lol.
That is some nice stupid deflection there,no matter how much power the xbox has over the PS it will always lose.
The xbox was more than twice as powerful as the PS2 and cost the same and loss badly,the series X has a minimal advantage and we don't even know if it will cost the same.
@phlop_spencer: Your next console is 30% weaker than the next Xbox.
Just sayin’.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣30%....
NOTHING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS. Estimates, views and *** packet calculations applies to almost everything when it comes PS5 and SX.
Taking what we know with common sense, this is a wise and obvious move. If baby SX comes in at £$400 or more then it might not be.
Time will tell.
Calculations? so you want to bring the gap between both system which is small and confirmed by the own specs that we know,on something like a price that you assume will be cheaper?
Some of you are really delusional.
@ProtossRushX: "Trust Sony and PlayStation imo" really, didn't they drop support for the Vita pretty hard. In fact Sony tends to make peripherals and send them out to fend for themselves.
That said, I don't trust MS after the launch of the Xbox One, dropping Kinect and exclusives.
The Vita came in december 2011 and was kill in early 2019 it outlived the xbox one X by some margin dude.
Kinect say other wise.
@phlop_spencer: Your next console is 30% weaker than the next Xbox.
Just sayin’.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣30%....
NOTHING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS. Estimates, views and *** packet calculations applies to almost everything when it comes PS5 and SX.
Taking what we know with common sense, this is a wise and obvious move. If baby SX comes in at £$400 or more then it might not be.
Time will tell.
Calculations? so you want to bring the gap between both system which is small and confirmed by the own specs that we know,on something like a price that you assume will be cheaper?
Some of you are really delusional.
@ProtossRushX: "Trust Sony and PlayStation imo" really, didn't they drop support for the Vita pretty hard. In fact Sony tends to make peripherals and send them out to fend for themselves.
That said, I don't trust MS after the launch of the Xbox One, dropping Kinect and exclusives.
The Vita came in december 2011 and was kill in early 2019 it outlived the xbox one X by some margin dude.
Kinect say other wise.
I meant their support with games.
Looks like MS is on a shutting down spree. What if they stop production of the XSX after 2 years because it wasn't profitable enough? What will happen to those 12.3tflops? 😊
@Pedro: guess I struck a nerve? Mind listing all system seller exclusive games for the Xbox? And by system selling I mean 90+ meta. Lol I’ll wait
MS wants this generation to disappear so fast because they got absolutely crushed. They haven’t made any worthwhile software for it for some time now in anticipation of next gen. Just like the 360, MS stopped giving a shit about it
@Sevenizz: my next console(S) will be a ps5 and if ms wows me with their July event, a series x.
Are you upset that ps5 exclusives will STILL look superior to Xbox games despite the power difference? You seem very defensive
@Sevenizz: More like 16 percent but keep up the narrative when PS5 games look better. Too bad that "difference" won't amount to anything.
@sheep99:
How so? Every past games, present games included free Enhancements and future games are playable on X1X?
I'd call that still supporting and at least for the next couple of years promised to support the X1X. :P
@Pedro: what i mean is MS has not supported the Xbox one X for a while, like Nintendo or Sony do
That make no sense because they are supporting the Xbox One X now and will be for the next two years for all of their games. Why are you making claims that are so clearly false?
@phlop_spencer: Your next console is 30% weaker than the next Xbox.
Just sayin’.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣30%....
NOTHING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS. Estimates, views and *** packet calculations applies to almost everything when it comes PS5 and SX.
Taking what we know with common sense, this is a wise and obvious move. If baby SX comes in at £$400 or more then it might not be.
Time will tell.
Calculations? so you want to bring the gap between both system which is small and confirmed by the own specs that we know,on something like a price that you assume will be cheaper?
Some of you are really delusional.
@ProtossRushX: "Trust Sony and PlayStation imo" really, didn't they drop support for the Vita pretty hard. In fact Sony tends to make peripherals and send them out to fend for themselves.
That said, I don't trust MS after the launch of the Xbox One, dropping Kinect and exclusives.
The Vita came in december 2011 and was kill in early 2019 it outlived the xbox one X by some margin dude.
Kinect say other wise.
I'm delusional
Your arguing with me about an estimated price point and obvious reason for not continuing the Xbox One X and in the same breath (on the same thread) saying its fine for them to stop supporting the PS4 Pro.
Your just a two faced twit who really has not got a clue.
Come on then big boy. If the Xbox One X was selling for $250-$300 and the general feeling on this forum is the series X will be $499. How much is the baby brother going to be? Cos anything below $350 puts it at direct competitor with the Xbox One X and nobody would buy the X.
How much will it be? put some meat on your acquirement.
and while your at it how come its ok for Sony to drop support for Pro but not for Microsoft with the X?
You talk some moral drivel about profit? Yet to the consumer what Microsoft is doing it far better, buy the game now (play on the X) play it better later at no additional cost (on the SX). Far better deal to the gamer than cant play the game till you buy the next console.
If what Sony are doing is ok will you be buying a PS5 at Launch at the max cost? or waiting for the price to come down?
Its like you lost on the holding back acquirement and you desperately looking for something else.
3 direct questions and I bet I dont get an answer to any of them.
I own 3 X’s and even I can admit it was a mistake. More checkerboarding than native 4K, framerates didn’t really improve and the console did nothing to swing the sales race in Microsoft’s favor. Hell, they won a few months with the base Xbox One. I’m pretty sure the Xbox has been in 3rd place the entire lifetime of the X.
Seeing the X at $299 in recent months was wild but telling. If gamers didn’t care about the Tflops with the X, why will they help the Series X? I don’t know who Microsoft is targeting with their consoles and marketing, but it’s gotta be some part of the web that I’m not aware of. Is the Xbox staff just watching DealerGaming’s YouTube videos and thinking they’re knocking it out of the park?!?!??
I own 3 X’s and even I can admit it was a mistake. More checkerboarding than native 4K, framerates didn’t really improve and the console did nothing to swing the sales race in Microsoft’s favor. Hell, they won a few months with the base Xbox One. I’m pretty sure the Xbox has been in 3rd place the entire lifetime of the X.
Seeing the X at $299 in recent months was wild but telling. If gamers didn’t care about the Tflops with the X, why will they help the Series X? I don’t know who Microsoft is targeting with their consoles and marketing, but it’s gotta be some part of the web that I’m not aware of. Is the Xbox staff just watching DealerGaming’s YouTube videos and thinking they’re knocking it out of the park?!?!??
So, you believed that the One X was going to have most of their games at 4K? Do you also believe that the One X was supposed to change the tide of PS4 dominance?
The sole anticipation of next gen for console gamers is new hardware. People can talk about the games as much of they want but its really the fun of newer hardware and the promise of newer experiences.
Who the Xbox is marketing to? Everyone. This agenda have been reiterated time and time again. From PC, to console to any streaming device.
I own 3 X’s and even I can admit it was a mistake. More checkerboarding than native 4K, framerates didn’t really improve and the console did nothing to swing the sales race in Microsoft’s favor. Hell, they won a few months with the base Xbox One. I’m pretty sure the Xbox has been in 3rd place the entire lifetime of the X.
Seeing the X at $299 in recent months was wild but telling. If gamers didn’t care about the Tflops with the X, why will they help the Series X? I don’t know who Microsoft is targeting with their consoles and marketing, but it’s gotta be some part of the web that I’m not aware of. Is the Xbox staff just watching DealerGaming’s YouTube videos and thinking they’re knocking it out of the park?!?!??
What do you mean even you can admit it was a mistake? You've been bashing the X1X since it launch. You bashed MS for claiming 4K without compromising and you never stopped. So saying "even you can admit it was a mistake" is disingenuous at best.
Gamers did care but MS messed up at the beginning and by the time the X1X launched it was to late. The 1X wasn't going to reverse the sales this gen and it wasn't supposed to either. That was just fanboy hopes and dreams but not reality.
@ProtossRushX: @lundy86_4: Lol MS has not supported the Xbox For a while but 3rd party did its all about subscribers for their gamepass and releasing as many crappy games they can on it
Weren't Cows all about indie games at the start of this gen?
Xbox one X discontinued but Xbox one S is continuing very strange.
Not if you think about. Why would they continue to make X1X if the SX base version is going be about the same price(assuming) but more powerful? How would it make sense to keep production going in that scenario?
@ProtossRushX: @lundy86_4: Lol MS has not supported the Xbox For a while but 3rd party did its all about subscribers for their gamepass and releasing as many crappy games they can on it
Weren't Cows all about indie games at the start of this gen?
Ah that selective memory of yours..
I guess lemmings didn't hype minecraft last gen to the moon and back,how about spelunky,limbo,suber meat boy and many other were a figment of my imagination.
Hell Resugun scored better than all xbox one and PS4 games on launch,but hey what about Ori one of the best xbox one series by far and for a long time the best rated console exclusive on xbox one.
Xbox one X discontinued but Xbox one S is continuing very strange.
Not if you think about. Why would they continue to make X1X if the SX base version is going be about the same price(assuming) but more powerful? How would it make sense to keep production going in that scenario?
While i agree with you on this,i don't think the xbox one S will be supported after the xbox series X and series S release,i think MS is just keeping the S model for now to not leave the market completely avandoned.
Good, good. Now stop the XSX production and GTFO of the console market.
"I don't love my console, I just hate yours"
Clowns of SWs
Nope. I love Sony and Nintendo. Nobody loves Xbox anyway. Xbox was created with not be loved in the first place and hated by everybody.
What do you mean even you can admit it was a mistake? You've been bashing the X1X since it launch. You bashed MS for claiming 4K without compromising and you never stopped. So saying "even you can admit it was a mistake" is disingenuous at best.
Gamers did care but MS messed up at the beginning and by the time the X1X launched it was to late. The 1X wasn't going to reverse the sales this gen and it wasn't supposed to either. That was just fanboy hopes and dreams but not reality.
I never "bashed" the Xbox One X. I disputed the "most games will run native 4K/60" claims that many Xbox fanboys here claimed and echoed. I also questioned the silly marketing and called out all the silly console kids that fell for it. That's all.
Good, good. Now stop the XSX production and GTFO of the console market.
"I don't love my console, I just hate yours"
Clowns of SWs
Nope. I love Sony and Nintendo. Nobody loves Xbox anyway. Xbox was created with not be loved in the first place and hated by everybody.
Just hated by cows. Gamers don't care and play on all systems. Why anyone would put limits on a hobby is beyond me and goes against what real gamers are. Conrats you're still a clown of SWs
What do you mean even you can admit it was a mistake? You've been bashing the X1X since it launch. You bashed MS for claiming 4K without compromising and you never stopped. So saying "even you can admit it was a mistake" is disingenuous at best.
Gamers did care but MS messed up at the beginning and by the time the X1X launched it was to late. The 1X wasn't going to reverse the sales this gen and it wasn't supposed to either. That was just fanboy hopes and dreams but not reality.
I never "bashed" the Xbox One X. I disputed the "most games will run native 4K/60" claims that many Xbox fanboys here claimed and echoed. I also questioned the silly marketing and called out all the silly console kids that fell for it. That's all.
Whatever you want to call it but from day 1 you talked about MS and the X1X every chance you got. The point is you saying"coming from you" means absolutely nothing when it comes to the X1X
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