Microsoft: Xbox isn't a gaming console

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Maybe once they add the rumored cable channels it will be come an entertainment center for me. Right now it's a gaming console I can watch videos and listen to music on. I'm still at a loss of why they didn't add a blu-ray drive to the new 360s model.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]I hate this, we don't need another bad PR stunt....look at the image the PS3 has been given. When will consoles just be about the simplicity of gaming? Games and games...***** the rest. soapandbubbles

All consoles are entertainment systems

Pretentious marketing b******s... Sony call the PS3 an entertainment centre too (which to be fair it has been since day one having bluray out of the box). I buy consoles for games though, everything else is just more expense for crap I don't even want (I miss the GC, the last true console of its kind).

so ill be able to watch hulu TV shows on xbox for free?

idk but for some reason i now have the urge to listen to the song "its's all downhill from here" by new found glory.

LP4EVA2005

its only called "all downhill from here" and its original name was catalyst :P, but geffen told em to change it as that was more marketable (so glad NFG left Geffen and went to Epitaph).

Also met Ian Grushkah at Slam Dunk aswell (the man is my hero as a bassist on stage and in the flesh one of the funniest peoplei have ever met).Also seen NFG 3 times in the past 2 years :o

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Sony and MS are multimedia companies, you're gonna expect their products to be fused up.LastRambo341

Errm yeah.. I bet he wouldn't of said that any time before Kinect existed. Or Wii started dominating their asses for that matter.

Errm yeah.. I bet he wouldn't of said that any time before Kinect existed. Or Wii started dominating their asses for that matter.

Crossel777

Except they've been saying that since the start of the gen, and even last gen.

Consoles have always been called entertainment systems ...

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Maybe once they add the rumored cable channels it will be come an entertainment center for me. Right now it's a gaming console I can watch videos and listen to music on. I'm still at a loss of why they didn't add a blu-ray drive to the new 360s model.

LastRambo341

Sony doesn't own Blu-Ray. They are part of the Blu-Ray Disc Association with several other companies.

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

Errm yeah.. I bet he wouldn't of said that any time before Kinect existed. Or Wii started dominating their asses for that matter.

-Snooze-

Except they've been saying that since the start of the gen, and even last gen.

Consoles have always been called entertainment systems ...

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

Errm yeah.. I bet he wouldn't of said that any time before Kinect existed. Or Wii started dominating their asses for that matter.

-Snooze-

Except they've been saying that since the start of the gen, and even last gen.

Consoles have always been called entertainment systems ...

ballmer mention and no pic/gif of him spazzing out? SW im dissapointed

That explains why they don't make games for it.

I guess... He's not wrong. The 360 does offer a lot, but I would personally never use it solely as my entertainment center, considering it doesn't offer me Blu-Ray.

[QUOTE="Khoo1992"]

Quote from IGN: "Microsoft's CEO Steve Ballmer has stated that the Xbox 360 isn't a gaming console – and that's what helps differentiate it from its competition..."

Well, there is a competition, and it is Sony PS3... They always target the same demographics.

WilliamRLBaker

Little Big Planet 2, Killzone 3, inFamous 2, MAG, Dead Space 2, Heavy Rain, and No More Heroes all are NOT "party" games, and have fully functional Move support. Move is for ALL gamers, even if you don't want to see it that way.

Sports Champion, The Fight, EyePet, Kung-Fu Riders, and The Shoot are the only "Party Games" I can think of that Sony has released for the casual market.

7 legit games with Move support

5 casual games with Move support.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Khoo1992"]

Quote from IGN: "Microsoft's CEO Steve Ballmer has stated that the Xbox 360 isn't a gaming console – and that's what helps differentiate it from its competition..."

Well, there is a competition, and it is Sony PS3... They always target the same demographics.

xYamatox

Little Big Planet 2, Killzone 3, inFamous 2, MAG, Dead Space 2, Heavy Rain, and No More Heroes all are NOT "party" games, and have fully functional Move support. Move is for ALL gamers, even if you don't want to see it that way.

Sports Champion, The Fight, EyePet, Kung-Fu Riders, and The Shoot are the only "Party Games" I can think of that Sony has released for the casual market.

7 legit games with Move support

5 casual games with Move support.

Come on ... Those games all just support move, they're not move games. MS could patch Kinect support into Reach, and have you wave your hand to reload. It's still not a Kinect game.

Besides ... LBP2 has minimal Move support. The main game won't support it.

That explains why they don't make games for it.

-Snooze-

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Somewhat related job listing posted on gaf:

"Microsoft Game Studios (MGS) is seeking an expert in elementary education and childhood development to be part of the leadership team in a brand new studio. The ideal candidate is passionate about using Microsoft technologies to enrich the lives of children and families through entertainment software. They will have schooling and practical work experience in the education field supplemented with consumer goods understanding. This is a phenomenal and rare opportunity to positively impact the lives of millions of people around the globe."

More of Kinect praising from MS, how many times does he need to mention how Kinect tracks you body oO WTF oO Anyway, most systems nowadays are more than *just* gaming, nothing new here :S

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="soapandbubbles"] Obviously, i don't mind the little additions...but why do they have to say it isn't a gaming console? it's just plain STUPID...it's primarily THAT and what it always should be. I see a horrid future where consoles turn into PC's..and because of it...cost will rise and what made consoles so unique will be forgotten (the simplicity of pop in and play gaming) now it's all installs, updates...devs can just half arse every game and finish it off later with a price..what a f'en joke.

soapandbubbles

My, my, financial crisis, what have you done? :p

yep it sure is, also my socks are foot insulation systems.

I think that Steve Ballmer's assessment is accurate. While the Xbox 360 launched with most of its focus on the games, Microsoft has since updated the console with many features to capture a broader audience, such as Netflix, ESPN, and of course, Kinect.

However, Ballmer's terminology does not necessarily need to be taken in a negative light. Unlike the Wii, for example, the 360 still enjoys massive third party support for the traditional gamer in addition to this new family-friendly software. I was unsure of Microsoft's direction after their E3 presentation, but it seems like they have found a nice balance between catering to a non-gamer audience and the traditional gamer.

"I think about my own family," he said. "My wife used to say, 'No, no, that's the machine the boys use,' and now she says, 'Yeah, I want to go watch movies. Let's go play the dance game.'

Vinegar_Strokes

While I was a skeptic before, Kinect is actually really fun (and tiring : D). I was never very fond of dancing; but after playing Dance Central over the past few days, I might be having a change of heart. Hell, even my mother wanted to play.

Who ever thought that this could be so fun? =P

Based on 2011's Xbox 360 lineup, I have to agree with Microsoft.

[spoiler] Before I get slammed, yes I did read the OP, and yes, I'm joking. [/spoiler]

Notice he doesn't say it's not "just" a gaming console, but says it "isn't a gaming console."

It's a hardcore family entertainment centre

edidili

Nintendo said something similar about the wii not being a "not gen console". It's all PR talk.

Xbox was never meant to be a gaming console, it was a means for Microsoft to dominate the Living Room after securing the Computer Room.

Games alone won't get them control of the Living Room

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

Except they've been saying that since the start of the gen, and even last gen.

Consoles have always been called entertainment systems ...

[[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

Errm yeah.. I bet he wouldn't of said that any time before Kinect existed. Or Wii started dominating their asses for that matter.

Crossel777

Except they've been saying that since the start of the gen, and even last gen.

Consoles have always been called entertainment systems ...

Nintendo Entertainment System

Isn't this what Sony said about their console?bbkkristian

"Xbox isn't a gaming console" - Ah, so it all finally makes sense! Otherwise it would've been a crap console :P I kid, I kid!

Xbox was never meant to be a gaming console, it was a means for Microsoft to dominate the Living Room after securing the Computer Room.

Games alone won't get them control of the Living Room

darth-pyschosis

I'm not comfortable with a corporation controlling the entire entertainment fields in my house. They didn't secure the pc. Yeah their OS is in everybodys computer but other than that they do not control anything. A pc user can install, work and visit everything without paying any fee to M$. That's what they want to do with these kind of devices. Don't really want to pay the Live for watching videos on youtube.

[QUOTE="vashkey"]Reminds me of Sony earlier this gen.ohthemanatee

I don't get why people are making this out to be bad. It is't a game console, it's a game console with other features that make it a family entertainment center (same for the PS3).

I'm sure MS (and Sony) have felt this way for quite a while, even before their motion control outings.

I don't get why people are making this out to be bad. It is't a game console, it's a game console with other features that make it a family entertainment center (same for the PS3).

I'm sure MS (and Sony) have felt this way for quite a while, even before their motion control outings.

catfishmoon23

Bad timing. That's why.

Had MS said this at the height of 360 support, no one would have minded. Infact they'd be happy MS were trying to improve each aspect of the console.

However releasing such a statement at a time when MS is seemingly fully focused on a more casual audience, worrys Xbox owners. Afterall they didn't buy the GAMES CONSOLE, to then be told games would be taking a back seat to family fun, and movies,

further proof of why im not buying the next xbox hahaah

It only does everything

"Xbox, it's not a gaming console, it's a way of life." -Xbro

Wow, so it turns out that just like every other company in the world, Microsoft is trying to make their products appealing to everybody on the planet so they can make money off of everyone. Who would have thought!?

Time to Jump Out for good.

further proof that ms have lost sight of what the xbox is really about.

Had a good run almost 9 nine years of xbox gaming but it might be time for me to "Jump out"

Thebettertwin