Microsoft's butthurt: Playstation 4 is just a stronger Playstation 3

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="spike6958"]Xbox One is just a crappier Xbox 360.tormentos

Going by spec and price it is..

$300 and $400 for the most powerful console of 2005 vs $500 for and over priced weak console on 2013.

The X1 is a weaker ps4 that costs more because it includes an NSA drone

The X1 is a weaker ps4 that costs more because it includes an NSA drone

TheKingIAm

Makes me worry more about MS.

PS2 was a stronger PS1 and look how that turned out :D

[QUOTE="BlackShirt20"]

Outside of hardware, whats different between the ps3 and ps4.......?KillzoneSnake

well stronger hardware aside... an improved controller, better online, recording, more feaures.. umm what else people want? Kinect xD

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

That's a good thing.

F*ck your gimmicks, I don't need 2 screens, I don't need more TV, make it play games or gtfo.

handssss

And the Xbone is a weaker PS4 :lol:

Give up already M$. You can't win next gen.

And the Xbone is a weaker PS4 :lol:

Give up already M$. You can't win next gen.

NathanDrakeSwag

this topic kinda blew up in those cows face. They cant name a single difference outside of the hardware......lol they keep avoiding the question!

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

And the Xbone is a weaker PS4 :lol:

Give up already M$. You can't win next gen.

MonsieurX

When was the last time the more powerful console was $100 cheaper than the competition?

Cheese grater accordian dog leash swiss cheese paper bag. SOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!! eltormo.clone01

Still bitter with me inspector gadget let it go dude..:lol:

[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

[QUOTE="BlackShirt20"]

Outside of hardware, whats different between the ps3 and ps4.......?BlackShirt20

well stronger hardware aside... an improved controller, better online, recording, more feaures.. umm what else people want? Kinect xD

On PS4.? Yes they are online online play is hiden behind a paywall the rest is free,including DVR.

And the Xbone is a weaker PS4 :lol:

Give up already M$. You can't win next gen.

NathanDrakeSwag

Lems failing at damage control again...

On PS4.? Yes they are online online play is hiden behind a paywall the rest is free,including DVR.

tormentos

Who gives a crap about the DVR though, MP is the one that matters. 

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

And the Xbone is a weaker PS4 :lol:

Give up already M$. You can't win next gen.

NathanDrakeSwag

When was the last time the more powerful console was $100 cheaper than the competition?

This generation the more powerful console is cheaper because it has no features. However the more superior system cost more because its packed with better games, quality and features. You gotta pay to play the best....

enjoy the PS3.1

 

Who gives a crap about the DVR though, MP is the one that matters. 

edidili

You can play online free on free to play games,you can't do that on xbox one even on free to play games.

And on xbox one cost more and you don't get games like on PSN+.

 

This generation the more powerful console is cheaper because it has no features. However the more superior system cost more because its packed with better games, quality and features. You gotta pay to play the best....

 

enjoy the PS3.1

BlackShirt20

For real so for $500 i would get all those games free.? damn MS you are the best...:lol:

When people actually use exclusives to justify paying more for a console as if the other game wold not have them as well,at that point is that you know that their whole argument is base on fanboy dreams and wishfull thinking.

You can play online free on free to play games

tormentos

C'mon now, those are f2p games that kinda failed on PC. I already played them.

I want MP for games like Division, Destiny, BF, Titanfall, Fifa. You can't fool me with some f2p games and a DVR I'll never use. 

PS4 this time is in the same crap xbox is for me. I can't imagine spending a few hundred bucks for the box and the games and just pretend I don't like playing MP. If I ever buy a PS4 I will have to pay the sub.

I wish people wouldnt say "hidden" behind a paywall. It makes it sound so much more deceptive than it actually is. I dont think anyone has ever been duped into paying for an Xbox Live subscription. Theres a reason why MS charged for Live...its the same reason Sony are charging this gen. Theres nothing "hidden".

I wish people wouldnt say "hidden" behind a paywall. It makes it sound so much more deceptive than it actually is. I dont think anyone has ever been duped into paying for an Xbox Live subscription. Theres a reason why MS charged for Live...its the same reason Sony are charging this gen. Theres nothing "hidden".

always_explicit

The "hidden" isn't about deception it's about exploitation.  Of course no one is tricked into paying for XBox live but they are exploited into it by hiding many of the best features behind a paywall.  Just the fact that you have to pay to play online at all is extremely exploitive.

PS2 was a stronger PS1 and look how that turned out :D

MasterX666

How revisionist of you. One of the things that made the PS2 so desirable when it came out was that it had a DVD player built in.

[QUOTE="always_explicit"]

I wish people wouldnt say "hidden" behind a paywall. It makes it sound so much more deceptive than it actually is. I dont think anyone has ever been duped into paying for an Xbox Live subscription. Theres a reason why MS charged for Live...its the same reason Sony are charging this gen. Theres nothing "hidden".

menes777

The "hidden" isn't about deception it's about exploitation. Of course no one is tricked into paying for XBox live but they are exploited into it by hiding many of the best features behind a paywall. Just the fact that you have to pay to play online at all is extremely exploitive.

I love the cow spin because they have to pay to play online now. It's classic.

[QUOTE="MasterX666"]

PS2 was a stronger PS1 and look how that turned out :D

StormyJoe

How revisionist of you. One of the things that made the PS2 so desirable when it came out was that it had a DVD player built in.

And PS1 had a CD player...They can'T come up with a winning disc format every gen i guess! That's how advanced blu-ray is :P

[QUOTE="always_explicit"]

I wish people wouldnt say "hidden" behind a paywall. It makes it sound so much more deceptive than it actually is. I dont think anyone has ever been duped into paying for an Xbox Live subscription. Theres a reason why MS charged for Live...its the same reason Sony are charging this gen. Theres nothing "hidden".

menes777

The "hidden" isn't about deception it's about exploitation.  Of course no one is tricked into paying for XBox live but they are exploited into it by hiding many of the best features behind a paywall.  Just the fact that you have to pay to play online at all is extremely exploitive.

[QUOTE="clone01"] Cheese grater accordian dog leash swiss cheese paper bag. SOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!! eltormo.tormentos

Still bitter with me inspector gadget let it go dude..:lol:

so one could say that the PS2 is just a stronger PS ,PS3 just a stronger PS2,ect but the same could be said about the Xbox 360 being just a stronger Xbox and the Xbox One being a stronger Xbox 360.

Microsoft is desperate, this is their only way to downplay PS4's success.

XVision84

so one could say that the PS2 is just a stronger PS ,PS3 just a stronger PS2,ect but the same could be said about the Xbox 360 being just a stronger Xbox and the Xbox One being a stronger Xbox 360.

linkdarkside

On one side of your mouths, you cows bash the Xb1 for it's media capablilites. Then, out of the other side of your mouths, you act as though those features aren't present in the XB1. :roll:

Cow logic = sad.

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Power = win gens? When was the last time it happened? :lol:BlackShirt20

When was the last time the more powerful console was $100 cheaper than the competition?

This generation the more powerful console is cheaper because it has no features. However the more superior system cost more because its packed with better games, quality and features. You gotta pay to play the best....

enjoy the PS3.1

You're right

P

C

The day that gamers and console makers think the innovation or creativity with gaming lies in the hardware and not in the worlds of the games themselves, they have truly lost the plot and need to find something else to do.

But, but, it IS just a stronger PS3.

DId anyone actually read the article? TC left out a ton of relevant info :|

"I think quite clear you have to wait because Xbox is the only eighth-generation console which brings the whole entertainment aspect into the bracket part."

He's right if you consider next gen console being "more entertainment features" but .. i dunno, maybe i'm old school or something, but i buy consoles to play games and nothimg more. I have a media center HTPC already setup why would I need another one locked down by MS or Sony?  Next gen consoles need to play next gen games and thats all I care about.

Let me paraphrase..

"We don't feel that gaming is the most important thing our console does.  We've seen the Netflix usage stats, so, instead we are giving you this."

..and the gamers of the world preorder PS4 3or 4 to 1 their machine as a result.

#Dealwithit

Let me paraphrase..

 

"We don't feel that gaming is the most important thing our console does.  We've seen the Netflix usage stats, so, instead we are giving you this."

 

..and the gamers of the world preorder PS4 3or 4 to 1 their machine as a result.

Shewgenja

That would have been a fair criticism if it wasn't for the fact that PS4, the console meant for games doesn't have any game.

Is he wrong? The most depressing thing about the next gen is how similar it's becoming to the current gen.

MS tried to pursue a different route, but too many said 'no thanks, I just want more of the same'.

It's genuinely a sad state of affairs how closely the Playstation 4 mirrors the Xbox 360. Even MS tried to evolve into something new. Now because of all the complainers even the Xbox One is being pulled back to the current gen blue print.

It's one of the reasons i'm genuinely losing interest in the next gen very quickly.

The Playstation 4 in a way represents to me how stale the console part of the games industry is becoming.

Let me paraphrase..

 

"We don't feel that gaming is the most important thing our console does.  We've seen the Netflix usage stats, so, instead we are giving you this."

 

..and the gamers of the world preorder PS4 3or 4 to 1 their machine as a result.

 

#Dealwithit

Shewgenja

You do know that the #1 application run on PS3 is also Netflix right? And that overall, PS3 was #1 in Netflix streaming?

family games are about the only thing kinect can do. so yeah, gimmick until you or MS can sell me on how it can improve core games for the price point they want. It's been a few years and all I've seen are those "family" games (minigames and dancing, woohoo) onrails crap, and using just the mic as voice support in games like Halo or Mass Effect. You know, things any mic should be able to do if MS allowed it? The coolest thing I saw was that little shooter demo for future soldier, but you couldn't use the motion controls ingame and with good reason. You wouldn't have been able to play it.handssss

Just because you don't like something or because it does not target you as a person does not make it bad, Look at DDR pads, you could say that DDR pads are as much of a gimmick as motion gaming. However then you would be targeting a group whom been playing these games for 15+ years. There as too be a starting point for something when Rumble came with Star Fox 64 no one expected it to be the norm X plus years latter. When gaming itself was new it was called a gimmick. When the NES came out, Nintendo had to market as a Family Entertainment center. Which is why Rob the robot came with the NES at launch. They could not market as a video game system, because companies said the gimmick of video gaming had died. It's easy to look at something as crap now, not knowing where it will go into the future. 

Look up the history of the Mouse as a gret example, when Xenox designed it no one wanted it at first. 

Let me paraphrase..

 

"We don't feel that gaming is the most important thing our console does.  We've seen the Netflix usage stats, so, instead we are giving you this."

 

..and the gamers of the world preorder PS4 3or 4 to 1 their machine as a result.

 

#Dealwithit

Shewgenja

MS never said Xbox was no longer about gaming, it's just they wanted it to be about more. Since the consoles are pretty much just PCs now, they may as well have them do as much as possible.

What did Sony say that was so interesting? 'here's a new graphics card and some online fees, go... enjoy'.

Look past all the marketing junk and that's it.

MS tried to pursue a different route, but too many said 'no thanks, I just want more of the same'.

HalcyonScarlet

They tried to but they didn't do it right. I would have been all for getting rid of retail and the high prices it causes and go DD, I've been there for years on PC.

However MS removed the benefits you get today with discs without giving anything in return. That's not how you make a big shift. You got rid of retail, packaging and distribution costs, gamestop. You had the chance to lower the prices of games and have flexible pricing, not all games cost the same to make so not all should sell for the same price too. 

And what did MS do? They came and said new DD games cost $60. That is not how Apple took over the music industry from Sony with its pricey discs. 

They could even find a way to make digital copies tradeable. If I could buy DD copies on Xbox for cheaper and be able to trade them I would have went with them in an instant. MS missed its chance though and it was their fault. Consumers got nothing back for what was being removed from.

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

Let me paraphrase..

 

"We don't feel that gaming is the most important thing our console does.  We've seen the Netflix usage stats, so, instead we are giving you this."

 

..and the gamers of the world preorder PS4 3or 4 to 1 their machine as a result.

 

#Dealwithit

navyguy21

You do know that the #1 application run on PS3 is also Netflix right? And that overall, PS3 was #1 in Netflix streaming?