Microsoft's latest mentality about "Nothing is for Free" on x360 fans!

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#1 GermanShepard06
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the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.

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#2 CJL13
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Will the maps become free over time?
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the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.

GermanShepard06

I won't just buy it. simple.

hoperfully it will be free after

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#4 lawlessx
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yeah..im going to sell my 360 back just because i need to pay for afew maps...riiight :roll: germanshepard why do you even bother trying to sound like you ever had interest in the 360?
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#5 lawlessx
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Will the maps become free over time?CJL13
good question..this was the same case when the halo2 maps came out..after afew months they were all free
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#6 GermanShepard06
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yeah..im going to sell my 360 back just because i need to pay for afew maps...riiight :roll: germanshepard why do you even bother trying to sound like you ever had interest in the 360?lawlessx

did u read the part where i said IF?

let me guess, u didnt.

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#7 chester706
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the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.

GermanShepard06
Dont you mean owners. 360 owners. A fan my not have a 360 thus it doesnt concern him. I am not a fanboy but I have a 360 for example.
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#8 GermanShepard06
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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.

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Dont you mean owners. 360 owners. A fan my not have a 360 thus it doesnt concern him. I am not a fanboy but I have a 360 for example.

ok then, how do u feel about this? do u think ms had the right to force epic to charge u money so they get that fair share of that money too? do u really think ms needs it? are they that money hungry?

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#9 HarlockJC
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The fact is that this is the way all gamming is going to head it only a matter of time. Look at Sony when they wanted to do the GT where you had to buy all the cars on PS3. I sure it will only be another year before Nintendo does something like this also.....Microsoft is just doing it first they have the best online so they beat everyone else
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#10 D0013ER
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[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.

GermanShepard06


Dont you mean owners. 360 owners. A fan my not have a 360 thus it doesnt concern him. I am not a fanboy but I have a 360 for example.

ok then, how do u feel about this? do u think ms had the right to force epic to charge u money so they get that fair share of that money too? do u really think ms needs it? are they that money hungry?

Yes...and so is Sony...and so is Nintendo...they're businesses, profit-mongering didn't start with Microsoft.
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#11 Imallvol7
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just dont buy it . . . the people vote with their dollars, and if people are SMART and dont buy it, ms might change their business model. Therefore, I beg to the gaming community . . . DO NOT BUY MORE HORSE ARMOR!!!!
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[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.

GermanShepard06


Dont you mean owners. 360 owners. A fan my not have a 360 thus it doesnt concern him. I am not a fanboy but I have a 360 for example.

ok then, how do u feel about this? do u think ms had the right to force epic to charge u money so they get that fair share of that money too? do u really think ms needs it? are they that money hungry?

The question is why do you care? It's not like you have a X360 or something and with all the games coming out for X360 i doubt nobody is too worried about a few maps.
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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.

D0013ER


Dont you mean owners. 360 owners. A fan my not have a 360 thus it doesnt concern him. I am not a fanboy but I have a 360 for example.

ok then, how do u feel about this? do u think ms had the right to force epic to charge u money so they get that fair share of that money too? do u really think ms needs it? are they that money hungry?



Yes...and so is Sony...and so is Nintendo...they're businesses, profit-mongering didn't start with Microsoft.

 nothing compares MS when it comes to profit-mongering.

did u know that ms is controlling all desktop pc's hardware? they dont want anything new to come until they approve it first, and before they want their fair share.

do u really believe that dx10 cant be done without windows vista?

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#14 Tamarind_Face
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OP your just wasting your time, shills and fanboys are just gonna spin this. They dont want free stuff. They want to buy them because M$ has a right to do it. M$ is a multi billion company so obviously its okay for them to be greedy and milk their customers.

 oh lems your gonna need this: 

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This being one of the major reasons I have become wary of buying a 360.
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#16 Led_poison
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Yea usually Map packs are free, at least on the PC
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#17 D0013ER
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Just like Capcom stating that DMC4 could only be done on the PS3's hardware... companies change their tune mighty quick whenever they see dollar signs.
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#18 htekemerald
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Nintendo make 150 bucks of every wii, Sony milks on everything, Hdmi anyone?,.  Why are people so outraged over this?
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You know, this sort of thing happens all the time in the business world; between the developers and their publishers. However, I believe that Epic was probably forced to lay it out in the open and to an extent, I agree with you, GermanShepard, that what Microsoft is doing is starting to anger me quite a bit.

 I support xbox Live, it's a great service and I don't mind paying for it but all this microtransactions crap on top of the service price is just too much, imo. I can understand from a business perspective, considering the huge fanbase, that having the new Gears of Wars maps for a price can be a profitable move. But come on...Microsoft's acting like they're alone in this competition and incidents like this are gonna bite them back in the ass. Somehow, I'm hoping Sony would take advantage of this situation just to let MS learn their lesson.

 

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#20 Fruity_Fantasy
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Wow a cow posting something bad about the 360 - so suprising! Anyway nothing is for free , we all have a debt to pay and one day either rich or poor the reaper will claim his debt.
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the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.

GermanShepard06
Do you work for a living? Do you work for free? Nintendo charges $250 for an obsolete console, $60 for the controllers, and $10 for VC games. The profit margin on these 3 products is nearly 300% when all is combined. Sony loses money, and Microsoft brakes even on the consoles. Sony and MS have to make money on the high-tech games. It isn't an option for them.
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It's called a free market economy! Did you take Economics class yet? Prices can change because of Supply and Demand. The almighty dollar wins the day, but this doesn't take away the fact that, as a consumer, I have choice. I chose to avoid 'horse armor' and I may do the same for anything else (including EPIC GAMES maps).
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You know, this sort of thing happens all the time in the business world; between the developers and their publishers. However, I believe that Epic was probably forced to lay it out in the open and to an extent, I agree with you, GermanShepard, that what Microsoft is doing is starting to anger me quite a bit.

 I support xbox Live, it's a great service and I don't mind paying for it but all this microtransactions crap on top of the service price is just too much, imo. I can understand from a business perspective, considering the huge fanbase, that having the new Gears of Wars maps for a price can be a profitable move. But come on...Microsoft's acting like they're alone in this competition and incidents like this are gonna bite them back in the ass. Somehow, I'm hoping Sony would take advantage of this situation just to let MS learn their lesson.

 

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So you think none of Sony games(the few there are) won't even charge for maps at the SOny store? Guess again.

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#24 GermanShepard06
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Just like Capcom stating that DMC4 could only be done on the PS3's hardware... companies change their tune mighty quick whenever they see dollar signs. D0013ER

dmc4 is not using the ps3 hardware to its fullest at all, they just dont have that money right now, but im glad they will get that money from x360 users when dmc4 hits x360.

the next dmc should have the ff13 or mgs4 visuals.

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Sorry Lems, M$ is truly giving you guys the royal shaft.  This is how M$ does business.  Make you buy their product, than shaft you on stuff you want.  Kinda like Windows XP and having to buy "MS Office" to have Word, etc.
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#26 GermanShepard06
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[QUOTE="kankthetank"]

You know, this sort of thing happens all the time in the business world; between the developers and their publishers. However, I believe that Epic was probably forced to lay it out in the open and to an extent, I agree with you, GermanShepard, that what Microsoft is doing is starting to anger me quite a bit.

 I support xbox Live, it's a great service and I don't mind paying for it but all this microtransactions crap on top of the service price is just too much, imo. I can understand from a business perspective, considering the huge fanbase, that having the new Gears of Wars maps for a price can be a profitable move. But come on...Microsoft's acting like they're alone in this competition and incidents like this are gonna bite them back in the ass. Somehow, I'm hoping Sony would take advantage of this situation just to let MS learn their lesson.

 

Fruity_Fantasy

So you think none of Sony games(the few their are) won't even charge for maps at the SOny store? Guess again.

if the devs want to charge then its up to them but to have ms force a dev to charge money is just dowright sad, get the point now?

i actually wont care if Epic went out there and wanted money for the extra maps but for ms to force epic to do that is a different story.

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[QUOTE="D0013ER"]Just like Capcom stating that DMC4 could only be done on the PS3's hardware... companies change their tune mighty quick whenever they see dollar signs. GermanShepard06

dmc4 is not using the ps3 hardware to its fullest at all, they just dont have that money right now, but im glad they will get that money from x360 users when dmc4 hits x360.

the next dmc should have the ff13 or mgs4 visuals.

Do you believe your own bullcrap or do you just like spewing garbage to try and annoy people? just wondering.

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[QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"]

You know, this sort of thing happens all the time in the business world; between the developers and their publishers. However, I believe that Epic was probably forced to lay it out in the open and to an extent, I agree with you, GermanShepard, that what Microsoft is doing is starting to anger me quite a bit.

 I support xbox Live, it's a great service and I don't mind paying for it but all this microtransactions crap on top of the service price is just too much, imo. I can understand from a business perspective, considering the huge fanbase, that having the new Gears of Wars maps for a price can be a profitable move. But come on...Microsoft's acting like they're alone in this competition and incidents like this are gonna bite them back in the ass. Somehow, I'm hoping Sony would take advantage of this situation just to let MS learn their lesson.

 

GermanShepard06

So you think none of Sony games(the few their are) won't even charge for maps at the SOny store? Guess again.

if the devs want to charge then its up to them but to have ms force a dev to charge money is just dowright sad, get the point now?

i actually wont care if Epic went out there and wanted money for the extra maps but for ms to force epic to do that is a different story.

Gears isn't just a Epic game, it also belongs to Microsoft Game Studios, I guess you didn't know that - Now you do.

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#29 Goku004
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In Response to some of these threads: First Sony doesn't charge for their service so if they want to charge for content thats totally understandable, but you 360 users already pay for live services so why do you have to pay for a couple measley maps that should be free to you since you already pay for their services...I say its milkage and some brainwashing along wit that..
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#30 kankthetank
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[QUOTE="kankthetank"]

You know, this sort of thing happens all the time in the business world; between the developers and their publishers. However, I believe that Epic was probably forced to lay it out in the open and to an extent, I agree with you, GermanShepard, that what Microsoft is doing is starting to anger me quite a bit.

 I support xbox Live, it's a great service and I don't mind paying for it but all this microtransactions crap on top of the service price is just too much, imo. I can understand from a business perspective, considering the huge fanbase, that having the new Gears of Wars maps for a price can be a profitable move. But come on...Microsoft's acting like they're alone in this competition and incidents like this are gonna bite them back in the ass. Somehow, I'm hoping Sony would take advantage of this situation just to let MS learn their lesson.

 

Fruity_Fantasy

So you think none of Sony games(the few their are) won't even charge fro maps at the SOny store? Guess again.

That's not what I'm saying, obviously it'll happen sometime (I wouldn't mind, anyway, considering that PSN is free). What I'm trying to say is MS isn't really in a desperate position such that it would force Epic to put a price on the new maps. Because, this is becoming a really annoying trend...paying extra over what we already frickin payed ($60 + XBL service); isn't that enough? I didn't mind paying for those; neither the XBLA games, but for even extra stuff that were already promised to be free...Yeah, it's simply "milking"....I'd start considering who's really the "cow" this generation.
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#32 D0013ER
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Look at the thread, no one is saying they necessarily like the fact that MS is forcing Epic's hand with the new content, but it shouldn't surprise anyone that they want to make money off their top-selling franchise.  If you feel that strongly about it then the best way to stick it to MS is to, you know, not buy it...
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#33 GermanShepard06
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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"]

You know, this sort of thing happens all the time in the business world; between the developers and their publishers. However, I believe that Epic was probably forced to lay it out in the open and to an extent, I agree with you, GermanShepard, that what Microsoft is doing is starting to anger me quite a bit.

 I support xbox Live, it's a great service and I don't mind paying for it but all this microtransactions crap on top of the service price is just too much, imo. I can understand from a business perspective, considering the huge fanbase, that having the new Gears of Wars maps for a price can be a profitable move. But come on...Microsoft's acting like they're alone in this competition and incidents like this are gonna bite them back in the ass. Somehow, I'm hoping Sony would take advantage of this situation just to let MS learn their lesson.

 

Fruity_Fantasy

So you think none of Sony games(the few their are) won't even charge for maps at the SOny store? Guess again.

if the devs want to charge then its up to them but to have ms force a dev to charge money is just dowright sad, get the point now?

i actually wont care if Epic went out there and wanted money for the extra maps but for ms to force epic to do that is a different story.

Gears isn't just a Epic game, it also belongs to Microsoft Game Studios, I guess you didn't know that - Now you do.

i knew that already sherlock, but that actually makes it even worse.

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Sorry Lems, M$ is truly giving you guys the royal shaft.  This is how M$ does business.  Make you buy their product, than shaft you on stuff you want.  Kinda like Windows XP and having to buy "MS Office" to have Word, etc.SergeantSnitch

People , not lems or whatever you want to call them make choices whether they want to buy something or not. People bought the 360 cause they wanted to play good games with a good online service, you people that are into the Sony only bought that piece of crap cause you want your FF and MGS that won't be out for what another year? And the games the Ps3 have coming out look like trash compared to the 360 line up.

To sum it up, people with a 360 are more gamers than people that wasted money for a cheap Blu-Ray player with so- called potential, potential my ass. The 3DO and the NEO GEO had potential - get a clue.

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the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.

GermanShepard06
a) I don't have to buy the maps b) Even if they were free, I wouldn't be highly interested in them anyway. Not with Mass Effect coming just around the corner. I'm not the biggest Xbox360 supporter but even I wouldn't use this to taunt Lemmings. It's insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]Sorry Lems, M$ is truly giving you guys the royal shaft. This is how M$ does business. Make you buy their product, than shaft you on stuff you want. Kinda like Windows XP and having to buy "MS Office" to have Word, etc.Fruity_Fantasy

People , not lems or whatever you want to call them make choices whether they want to buy something or not. People bought the 360 cause they wanted to play good games with a good online service, you people that are into the Sony only bought that piece of crap cause you want your FF and MGS that won't be out for what another year? And the games the Ps3 have coming out look like trash compared to the 360 line up.

To sum it up, people with a 360 are more gamers than people that wasted money for a cheap Blu-Ray player with so- called potential, potential my ass. The 3DO and the NEO GEO had potential - get a clue.

Okay, Fruity Fantasy....
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#37 GermanShepard06
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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.

2largeadults



a) I don't own the game

b) Even if they were free, i wont need it cuz of a)
I'm not the biggest Xbox360 supporter cuz i dont own one but even I wouldn't use this to taunt Lemmings. It's insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

fixed.

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#38 D0013ER
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[QUOTE="2largeadults"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.

GermanShepard06



a) I don't own the game

b) Even if they were free, i wont need it cuz of a)
I'm not the biggest Xbox360 supporter cuz i dont own one but even I wouldn't use this to taunt Lemmings. It's insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

fixed.

Considering how far out of the way you go to try and stick it to the 360 I'd wager you don't own one either.
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]Sorry Lems, M$ is truly giving you guys the royal shaft. This is how M$ does business. Make you buy their product, than shaft you on stuff you want. Kinda like Windows XP and having to buy "MS Office" to have Word, etc.Fruity_Fantasy

People , not lems or whatever you want to call them make choices whether they want to buy something or not. People bought the 360 cause they wanted to play good games with a good online service, you people that are into the Sony only bought that piece of crap cause you want your FF and MGS that won't be out for what another year? And the games the Ps3 have coming out look like trash compared to the 360 line up.

To sum it up, people with a 360 are more gamers than people that wasted money for a cheap Blu-Ray player with so- called potential, potential my ass. The 3DO and the NEO GEO had potential - get a clue.

I actually haven't bought a PS3, although I will in the future. The PS3 has much more games I enjoy than any other console. Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Socom 4, GT5, MGS4, FF13, FF13VS, God Of War 3, Ratchet & Clank all disagree with you. If you enjoy the 360 and it's games, that's fine. Just don't bash the PS3 and it's awesome line up of games simply because you dislike Sony.
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Look at the thread, no one is saying they necessarily like the fact that MS is forcing Epic's hand with the new content, but it shouldn't surprise anyone that they want to make money off their top-selling franchise.  If you feel that strongly about it then the best way to stick it to MS is to, you know, not buy it...D0013ER
I think we all understand that; however, if we stay quiet everytime something like this happens and accept paying for this, it'll only get worse. Sure, we have a choice but if we just ignore this, what can we expect next? Short games (being sold for full price) having "extra" levels as downloadable content for a price. MS is already getting payed by their sponsors with all the advertising on XBL? I mean, they're getting money left and right now and for them to start forcing devs to put a price on extra content that would otherwise just be free, it's just milking.
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#41 Fruity_Fantasy
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[QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"]

You know, this sort of thing happens all the time in the business world; between the developers and their publishers. However, I believe that Epic was probably forced to lay it out in the open and to an extent, I agree with you, GermanShepard, that what Microsoft is doing is starting to anger me quite a bit.

 I support xbox Live, it's a great service and I don't mind paying for it but all this microtransactions crap on top of the service price is just too much, imo. I can understand from a business perspective, considering the huge fanbase, that having the new Gears of Wars maps for a price can be a profitable move. But come on...Microsoft's acting like they're alone in this competition and incidents like this are gonna bite them back in the ass. Somehow, I'm hoping Sony would take advantage of this situation just to let MS learn their lesson.

 

kankthetank

So you think none of Sony games(the few their are) won't even charge fro maps at the SOny store? Guess again.



That's not what I'm saying, obviously it'll happen sometime (I wouldn't mind, anyway, considering that PSN is free). What I'm trying to say is MS isn't really in a desperate position such that it would force Epic to put a price on the new maps. Because, this is becoming a really annoying trend...paying extra over what we already frickin payed ($60 + XBL service); isn't that enough? I didn't mind paying for those; neither the XBLA games, but for even extra stuff that were already promised to be free...Yeah, it's simply "milking"....I'd start considering who's really the "cow" this generation.

People have a choice to buy something or not, if you don't like MS don't use windows, don't play your Xbox and sell it , therefore not buying anymore games and supporting it.

Sony doesn't stick it to you with hardware? They have TVs, stereos, phones and they own half the movie industry. The only thing I see MS intervening with is computers and games, I could give a rat's ass about MSNBC or other ways MS makes profits.

I love my 360 and I don't get milked cause I choose what I buy, maybe you are one of those people that have to buy everything or have someone buy everything for you. I don't know your situation. Gears was one of the best games to come out in a long time and I got my money's worth and have no regrets. 

P.s. I wasted more money on SOny hardware than MS products. I bought walkmans that broke and Stereos that broke. If this TV I have that is a SOny breaks I will never touch a SOny product again. I also have a Sony Ericsson phone that is way too low in volume and I can't wait to get a decent phone.

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#42 2largeadults
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[QUOTE="2largeadults"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.

GermanShepard06



a) I don't own the game

b) Even if they were free, i wont need it cuz of a)
I'm not the biggest Xbox360 supporter cuz i dont own one but even I wouldn't use this to taunt Lemmings. It's insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

fixed.

Congratulations. Toddler. :roll:
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cant wait for UT2007 to come out for my ps3, free online, free maps, keyboard, mouse.

 

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Do i have to buy these maps. No
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[QUOTE="kankthetank"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"]

You know, this sort of thing happens all the time in the business world; between the developers and their publishers. However, I believe that Epic was probably forced to lay it out in the open and to an extent, I agree with you, GermanShepard, that what Microsoft is doing is starting to anger me quite a bit.

 I support xbox Live, it's a great service and I don't mind paying for it but all this microtransactions crap on top of the service price is just too much, imo. I can understand from a business perspective, considering the huge fanbase, that having the new Gears of Wars maps for a price can be a profitable move. But come on...Microsoft's acting like they're alone in this competition and incidents like this are gonna bite them back in the ass. Somehow, I'm hoping Sony would take advantage of this situation just to let MS learn their lesson.

 

Fruity_Fantasy

So you think none of Sony games(the few their are) won't even charge fro maps at the SOny store? Guess again.



That's not what I'm saying, obviously it'll happen sometime (I wouldn't mind, anyway, considering that PSN is free). What I'm trying to say is MS isn't really in a desperate position such that it would force Epic to put a price on the new maps. Because, this is becoming a really annoying trend...paying extra over what we already frickin payed ($60 + XBL service); isn't that enough? I didn't mind paying for those; neither the XBLA games, but for even extra stuff that were already promised to be free...Yeah, it's simply "milking"....I'd start considering who's really the "cow" this generation.

People have a choice to buy something or not, if you don't like MS don't use windows, don't play your Xbox and sell it , therefore not buying anymore games and supporting it.

Sony doesn't stick it to you with hardware? They have TVs, stereos, phones and they own half the movie industry. The only thing I see MS intervening with is computers and games, I could give a rat's ass about MSNBC or other ways MS makes profits.

I love my 360 and I don't get milked cause I choose what I buy, maybe you are one of those people that have to buy everything or have someone buy everything for you. I don't know your situation. Gears was one of the best games to come out in a long time and I got my money's worth and have no regrets. 

P.s. I wasted more money on SOny hardware than MS products. I bought walkmans that broke and Stereos that broke. If this TV I have that is a SOny breaks I will never touch a SOny product again. I also have a Sony Ericsson phone that is way too low in volume and I can't wait to get a decent phone.



I love my 360 and I don't hate Microsoft at all. In fact, I look up to the company since it's one of the most successful ones in the world. I actually despise all those MS is "evil" comments. However, like I said, while I understand the reasoning behind their move for wanting to charge for the maps, I just believe this could be the start of something that could really be irritating for gamers in the future. If more and more people are willing to pay for such content, businesses/ publishers will start taking advantage of that and who knows how games will be effected by that (in terms of length, content, etc. [like I said in my last post]).
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Do i have to buy these maps. Noxboxdude333

not if u dont own the game, is that what u mean?

 

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[QUOTE="xboxdude333"]Do i have to buy these maps. NoGermanShepard06

not if u dont own the game, is that what u mean?

 

I own the game
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It doesn't really bother me seeing as a $5 - $10 charge every few months doesn't mean much to me. I mean, it sucks that they're charging, but that's business. It's not as if we got these consoles for free. They need to make money, that's how it is. And i'll still get the DL when it is released simply because i want to play the new maps. If the price is some ridiculous amount like $20-$25 then i wouldn't...but $5-$10? Nah, doesn't mean much to me.
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#49 Fruity_Fantasy
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[QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"]

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]Sorry Lems, M$ is truly giving you guys the royal shaft. This is how M$ does business. Make you buy their product, than shaft you on stuff you want. Kinda like Windows XP and having to buy "MS Office" to have Word, etc.SergeantSnitch

People , not lems or whatever you want to call them make choices whether they want to buy something or not. People bought the 360 cause they wanted to play good games with a good online service, you people that are into the Sony only bought that piece of crap cause you want your FF and MGS that won't be out for what another year? And the games the Ps3 have coming out look like trash compared to the 360 line up.

To sum it up, people with a 360 are more gamers than people that wasted money for a cheap Blu-Ray player with so- called potential, potential my ass. The 3DO and the NEO GEO had potential - get a clue.



I actually haven't bought a PS3, although I will in the future. The PS3 has much more games I enjoy than any other console. Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Socom 4, GT5, MGS4, FF13, FF13VS, God Of War 3, Ratchet & Clank all disagree with you. If you enjoy the 360 and it's games, that's fine. Just don't bash the PS3 and it's awesome line up of games simply because you dislike Sony.

All those games you mention are nowhere on the horizon except that Xbox port which don't look much different on the Ps3 except for the falling leaves - whoop dee doo!!!!!

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the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.

GermanShepard06

or you could just not buy them?

but then agin your a sony fanboy so that wouldnt do ,would it.