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#101 omarguy01
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[QUOTE="omarguy01"]aw... no FF13... :(millwrought

If they showed FF13 for the 360 today, the System Wars world would closed due explosions from fan boys lol.

yea... people should stop being fanboys
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#102 ReturnOfShinobi
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[QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"]

Hmm oh okay, so it isnt exclusive, but who cares, this is a big franchise that MS is getting, and i really hope for the love of God that MS creates a JRPG buzz. They are also going to push Vesperia which is awesome, i remember Blue Dragon pushing 200k 360 units that, for a 600k userbase now, thats a lot. Tales happens to be the third largest RPG franchise there and its good to see MS pushing this game so that it not only sells, but the 360 as well. That 600k userbase there is making a HUGE difference and its one of the reasons why Japanese devs such as Namco are supporting the 360, heck the 80k Eternal Sonata got was enough for them to continue on the console..

But yeah, is the conference over? Whats this im hearing about two more SquareEnix RPGs? I hope that doesnt include Infinite Undiscovery and Last Remnant?

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200k on a 600k is good if you only count ratios, but as a company, overall, Blue Dragon was a failed game saleswise. Even with an anime series pushing it and having Akira Toriyama behind the game art, 200k is an epic fail.

But im talking about Japan, were the game was a huge success, its the best selling game on any XBOX console there. So yes, with that said, it sold well in Japan, because even for Japan 200k is a lot, it was enough to keep vesperia exclusive according to Namco, but in EU and NA, the sales were pretty below par. It sold about 550k, which wasnt enough to cover their costs. But regardless, MS need to realise that they need to take a hit in order for their name to be established in Japan. If they allow BD to span onto DS and let the franchises popularity rise, it could mean more for them

Please stop spinning the numbers. 1 million sold is a success. 500k sold would be a success. Bottom line, 200k is an epic fail. Especially with the cost of producing the game 200k does not cover the costs of making it.

Plus, ToV will probably be released on the PS3 as well, but probably only in Japan. It has been hinted at by Namco the same way Trusty Bell has been said to be released on the PS3.

And the fact that it's going on DS to gain popularity just shows you how bad BD has done. You can continue with your ratios and attach ratios and all of that, but bottom line once more is that 200k is an epic failure when it was supposed to do a lot better for MS as a company.

Im not spinning the numbers, 200k in JUST Japan is a huge success for MS, its the best selling game on ANY of their platforms there, in fact 200k is a good number for any Japanese launch, how is that spin or are you going to get even more offended for stating facts:|

500k on most accounts is indeed a success, according to VG Chartz, its at 480k, their EU sales havent been updated since launch, which are at 50k, obviously far too low. So it is roughly around 550k, at lowest probably 450k. But with that said, the amount the game cost them, the huge amount of CG work, the massive promotion, the anime series, all that, i NEVER EVER said it was a success as a whole, JUST in Japan, sorry but please dont 'spin' my post:roll:

And if it goes to DS, yeah as i said, it didnt do to well, but if it gains something on that platform and BD2 rolls around on 360, then MS could have a game that sells even better

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#103 Farzan777
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WOW, Star Ocean 4 is coming to Xbox 360. I cant believe Microsoft got this deal. Im so happy now. Props to Microsoft for not giving up a dead fight. This just goes to show you that Microsoft wont give up in Japan. After todays conference, Im going to predict that FF13 will come to Xbox 360. Mark my word. If Star Ocean can come to the 360 then so can FF13

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#104 millwrought
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WOW, Star Ocean 4 is coming to Xbox 360. I cant believe Microsoft got this deal. Im so happy now. Props to Microsoft for not giving up a dead fight. This just goes to show you that Microsoft wont give up in Japan. After todays conference, Im going to predict that FF13 will come to Xbox 360. Mark my word. If Star Ocean can come to the 360 then so can FF13

Farzan777

That would be cool, because the only reason I would get a PS3 right now is for Resistance 2, and FF13. (I haven't played any of the MGS games yet, so I want to play the past ones before I get MGS4.) So if FF13 goes to the 360, then I won't need to get a PS3 for a while yet!

Here's to hoping for KH making it too the 360!

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#105 ReturnOfShinobi
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WOW, Star Ocean 4 is coming to Xbox 360. I cant believe Microsoft got this deal. Im so happy now. Props to Microsoft for not giving up a dead fight. This just goes to show you that Microsoft wont give up in Japan. After todays conference, Im going to predict that FF13 will come to Xbox 360. Mark my word. If Star Ocean can come to the 360 then so can FF13

Farzan777

Japan is far from a lost cause, even the PS3 is on life support there, and its software sales are just ahead of 360s. Japanese devs have plenty of reason to invest in the console, its easy and cheap to develope for and if they target the right niche they can get similar sales

Im just waiting to see what Treasure can come up with

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#106 kyacat
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wow Star ocean 4 coming to 360 I didn't see that coming and my money jar going to be emtpy for while

way to go microsoft

if Final fantasy XIII comes to 360 I laughing

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#107 Zhengi
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Im not spinning the numbers, 200k in JUST Japan is a huge success for MS, its the best selling game on ANY of their platforms there, in fact 200k is a good number for any Japanese launch, how is that spin or are you going to get even more offended for stating facts:|

500k on most accounts is indeed a success, according to VG Chartz, its at 480k, their EU sales havent been updated since launch, which are at 50k, obviously far too low. So it is roughly around 550k, at lowest probably 450k. But with that said, the amount the game cost them, the huge amount of CG work, the massive promotion, the anime series, all that, i NEVER EVER said it was a success as a whole, JUST in Japan, sorry but please dont 'spin' my post:roll:

And if it goes to DS, yeah as i said, it didnt do to well, but if it gains something on that platform and BD2 rolls around on 360, then MS could have a game that sells even better

ReturnOfShinobi

The problem is that MS was not expecting it to only sell 200k. They were expecting it to be the premier RPG that would open up Japan to adopting their console. Look at it like that and the low numbers at 200k shows that it was indeed an epic fail. And you can't deny the costs of making the game.

Here's a quote from the live blog 1UP did of the MS RPG conference:

"There's no Blue Dragon sequel in evidence, and I hear there won't be one because the first one cost so much and didn't sell as well as Microsoft was hoping. This is just hearsay, though, so don't take my word for it. Blue Dragon is hitting the DS, though, so yay?"

Link here

Not evidence, but a rumor. It does show that MS was hoping for more sales and they did not get them in Japan. So once more, 200k = epic fail.

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#108 -Renegade
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when these games fail on 360 se will be wandering why they are nearly bankrupt once again. before it's all over and done with se will be begging for sony's support just to stay afloat.
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#109 -Renegade
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WOW, Star Ocean 4 is coming to Xbox 360. I cant believe Microsoft got this deal. Im so happy now. Props to Microsoft for not giving up a dead fight. This just goes to show you that Microsoft wont give up in Japan. After todays conference, Im going to predict that FF13 will come to Xbox 360. Mark my word. If Star Ocean can come to the 360 then so can FF13

Farzan777

Not a chance. There is no way Sony will let Final Fantasy XIII go to 360. It's funny how lemmings want all the Playstation franchises. First it was MGS 4 and now it's Final Fantasy. If you want the best games get with the best system. :D

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#110 ReturnOfShinobi
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Im not spinning the numbers, 200k in JUST Japan is a huge success for MS, its the best selling game on ANY of their platforms there, in fact 200k is a good number for any Japanese launch, how is that spin or are you going to get even more offended for stating facts:|

500k on most accounts is indeed a success, according to VG Chartz, its at 480k, their EU sales havent been updated since launch, which are at 50k, obviously far too low. So it is roughly around 550k, at lowest probably 450k. But with that said, the amount the game cost them, the huge amount of CG work, the massive promotion, the anime series, all that, i NEVER EVER said it was a success as a whole, JUST in Japan, sorry but please dont 'spin' my post:roll:

And if it goes to DS, yeah as i said, it didnt do to well, but if it gains something on that platform and BD2 rolls around on 360, then MS could have a game that sells even better

Zhengi

The problem is that MS was not expecting it to only sell 200k. They were expecting it to be the premier RPG that would open up Japan to adopting their console. Look at it like that and the low numbers at 200k shows that it was indeed an epic fail. And you can't deny the costs of making the game.

Here's a quote from the live blog 1UP did of the MS RPG conference:

"There's no Blue Dragon sequel in evidence, and I hear there won't be one because the first one cost so much and didn't sell as well as Microsoft was hoping. This is just hearsay, though, so don't take my word for it. Blue Dragon is hitting the DS, though, so yay?"

Link here

Not evidence, but a rumor. It does show that MS was hoping for more sales and they did not get them in Japan. So once more, 200k = epic fail.

Yeah again, its talking about overall sales, 200k was a good number for JUST Japan, offcourse they were expecting more, but those numbers are satisfactory, its the NA and EU numbers that let them down. I dont know, MS were stupid enough not to market LO, which could have shipped a good 100k consoles or so with 150k in game sales
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#111 jeffdoomsday
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Theres a lot of sore losers in this thread.
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#113 MojondeVACA
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Why they dont give me something new,.. enough of crappy emo RPGs.
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#114 MojondeVACA
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when these games fail on 360 se will be wandering why they are nearly bankrupt once again. before it's all over and done with se will be begging for sony's support just to stay afloat. -Renegade


wow fanboy much? microsoft bankrupt :lol: get out of here cow :|
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#115 Jynxzor
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I wonder if Star Ocean 4 will be multiplat or I may have to buy a RPG for my 360...oh no!
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#116 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]when these games fail on 360 se will be wandering why they are nearly bankrupt once again. before it's all over and done with se will be begging for sony's support just to stay afloat. MojondeVACA


wow fanboy much? microsoft bankrupt :lol: get out of here cow :|

He said SE....

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#117 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]when these games fail on 360 se will be wandering why they are nearly bankrupt once again. before it's all over and done with se will be begging for sony's support just to stay afloat. Chutebox



wow fanboy much? microsoft bankrupt :lol: get out of here cow :|

He said SE....

You mean SE is not MS? *mind implodes*

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#118 -Renegade
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]when these games fail on 360 se will be wandering why they are nearly bankrupt once again. before it's all over and done with se will be begging for sony's support just to stay afloat. Zhengi



wow fanboy much? microsoft bankrupt :lol: get out of here cow :|

He said SE....

You mean SE is not MS? *mind implodes*

SE = Square Enix...

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#119 CAlNlAC
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I think the chances of FFXIII coming to the 360 is highly dependent on how well games like Infinite Undiscovery, Last Remnant and Star Ocean 4 do. If they come out and sell well that might just prove to Square-Enix that there is indeed a marketplace for their games on the 360 and would give them good reason to bring their main francise to the 360 also. That is assuming of course Sony doesn't already have an exclusivity deal worked out with Square. Anyway this news is great for rpg fans who own the 360.
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#120 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]when these games fail on 360 se will be wandering why they are nearly bankrupt once again. before it's all over and done with se will be begging for sony's support just to stay afloat. -Renegade



wow fanboy much? microsoft bankrupt :lol: get out of here cow :|

He said SE....

You mean SE is not MS? *mind implodes*

SE = Square Enix...

Zhengi was being sarcastic.

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#121 dru26
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I think the chances of FFXIII coming to the 360 is highly dependent on how well games like Infinite Undiscovery, Last Remnant and Star Ocean 4 do. If they come out and sell well that might just prove to Square-Enix that there is indeed a marketplace for their games on the 360 and would give them good reason to bring their main francise to the 360 also. That is assuming of course Sony doesn't already have an exclusivity deal worked out with Square. Anyway this news is great for rpg fans who own the 360.CAlNlAC
I agree. It seems SE is one of the few companies that is heavily interested in financial statistics. If they were willing to move their biggest series (DQ) to a handheld, nothing would surprise me with them. I just hope the "delays", aren't related to a building of an install base.
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#122 Cyberfairy
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Time to save up for a 360 :P
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#123 kozzy1234
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Infinite Undiscovery


Star Ocean 4

Tales of Vesperia

I cant wait for those games... microsoft is really doing a good job of having some great RPGS on there system this gen!

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#124 Cyberfairy
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Infinite Undiscovery


Star Ocean 4

Tales of Vesperia

I cant wait for those games... microsoft is really doing a good job of having some great RPGS on there system this gen!

kozzy1234

Yeah, it feels like Sony doesn't care about RPG's anymore.

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#125 MojondeVACA
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Infinite Undiscovery


Star Ocean 4

Tales of Vesperia

I cant wait for those games... microsoft is really doing a good job of having some great RPGS on there system this gen!

Cyberfairy

Yeah, it feels like Sony doesn't care about RPG's anymore.



Ps3 is the shooters console now, x360 gets only lame RPGS.
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#126 kyacat
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Infinite Undiscovery


Star Ocean 4

Tales of Vesperia

I cant wait for those games... microsoft is really doing a good job of having some great RPGS on there system this gen!

Cyberfairy

Yeah, it feels like Sony doesn't care about RPG's anymore.

Iam sure sony care about rpg give them time
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#127 Nick_JC1
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Infinite Undiscovery


Star Ocean 4

Tales of Vesperia

I cant wait for those games... microsoft is really doing a good job of having some great RPGS on there system this gen!

Cyberfairy

Yeah, it feels like Sony doesn't care about RPG's anymore.

Sony seem more concerned with pouring money into games like Killzone at the expense of other titles

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#128 PRKiNG45
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This sounds good, but after Infamous details yesterday i'm currently hyping that right now. Too much money being lost :(
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#129 omarguy01
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[QUOTE="Cyberfairy"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Infinite Undiscovery


Star Ocean 4

Tales of Vesperia

I cant wait for those games... microsoft is really doing a good job of having some great RPGS on there system this gen!

MojondeVACA

Yeah, it feels like Sony doesn't care about RPG's anymore.



Ps3 is the shooters console now, x360 gets only lame RPGS.

funny. by "lame RPGS" you mean "anything that is not "final fantasy"
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#130 cody3232
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Star Ocean 4 360 exclusive... im just getting more and more fustrated at the purchase of my PS3. Like it's not even getting it at all, looks like im going to be getting a 360. I mean JRPGs were the reason i picked a PS3 over a 360 not that is coming back to bite me, theres only two exclusive ones im looking forward to now.
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#131 omarguy01
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Star Ocean 4 360 exclusive... im just getting more and more fustrated at the purchase of my PS3. Like it's not even getting it at all, looks like im going to be getting a 360. I mean JRPGs were the reason i picked a PS3 over a 360 not that is coming back to bite me, theres only two exclusive ones im looking forward to now.cody3232
exclusive??? i thought it was multiplat..
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#132 II-FBIsniper-II
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Thanks, I'm checking it out.
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#133 WilliamRLBaker
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With all this happening, Why aren't all the Japanese people going for the 360? Or have they decided that cellphone games are the future?FrozenLiquid

thats pretty much the truth of it, console gaming is dieing in japan the wii is selling so well because of price and weirdness of games on the system its different and the japanese like different portable gaming is the new gaming there.

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#134 Ket87
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[QUOTE="cody3232"]Star Ocean 4 360 exclusive... im just getting more and more fustrated at the purchase of my PS3. Like it's not even getting it at all, looks like im going to be getting a 360. I mean JRPGs were the reason i picked a PS3 over a 360 not that is coming back to bite me, theres only two exclusive ones im looking forward to now.omarguy01
exclusive??? i thought it was multiplat..

It exclusive at the moment at least, search Star Ocean 4 on the site and it only comes up for 360. And I'd imagine on other sites too thats not something I see even gameSpot screwing up.

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#135 omarguy01
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[QUOTE="omarguy01"][QUOTE="cody3232"]Star Ocean 4 360 exclusive... im just getting more and more fustrated at the purchase of my PS3. Like it's not even getting it at all, looks like im going to be getting a 360. I mean JRPGs were the reason i picked a PS3 over a 360 not that is coming back to bite me, theres only two exclusive ones im looking forward to now.Ket87

exclusive??? i thought it was multiplat..

It exclusive at the moment at least, search Star Ocean 4 on the site and it only comes up for 360. And I'd imagine on other sites too thats not something I see even gameSpot screwing up.

oo i see. most likely it'll go to ps3 at some point later. that's my guess. but good news that it's at least on 360 :)
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#136 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Ket87"]

[QUOTE="omarguy01"][QUOTE="cody3232"]Star Ocean 4 360 exclusive... im just getting more and more fustrated at the purchase of my PS3. Like it's not even getting it at all, looks like im going to be getting a 360. I mean JRPGs were the reason i picked a PS3 over a 360 not that is coming back to bite me, theres only two exclusive ones im looking forward to now.omarguy01

exclusive??? i thought it was multiplat..

It exclusive at the moment at least, search Star Ocean 4 on the site and it only comes up for 360. And I'd imagine on other sites too thats not something I see even gameSpot screwing up.

oo i see. most likely it'll go to ps3 at some point later. that's my guess. but good news that it's at least on 360 :)

No other jrpg has :? Even eternal sonata was confirmed as being japan only for the ps3.