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Never mind the low specs.

Imagine playing Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, or some other old school game on the train on a Surface with the digitizing pen.

Imagine the freaken possibilities. PC gaming at the palm of one's hand is now possible!

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#2 NoodleFighter
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Nu UH! PROJECT FIONA!@

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#3 Jonwh18
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Joke thread? $900 price tag? Build a fvcking gaming PC that can blow that Sh!t otta the water AND get a cheaper tablet to satisfy you on the go cravings.

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#4 Blabadon
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Joke thread? $900 price tag? Build a fvcking gaming PC that can blow that Sh!t otta the water AND get a cheaper tablet to satisfy you on the go cravings.

Jonwh18
I don't think anymore needs to be said.
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#5 Mozuckint
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For around that price, I'd probably just pick up one of those convertible Ultrabooks instead. Best of both worlds without inconvinience of factor.

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#6 SUD123456
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For around that price, I'd probably just pick up one of those convertible Ultrabooks instead. Best of both worlds without inconvinience of factor.

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Exactly the same logic that makes me interested in a surface :)

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Never mind the low specs.

Imagine playing Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, or some other old school game on the train on a Surface with the digitizing pen.

Imagine the freaken possibilities. PC gaming at the palm of one's hand is now possible!

The_Capitalist

It is very low spec, i would rather get a tablet/laptop hybrid, with a much better CPU/GPU

My 14'' laptop can also be used in mostly every place and is almost as convinient as a tablet, but 1000x stronger in power and i can work on

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#8 psx_warrior
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I seriously don't get it. Who are they trying to market this thing to that don't already have some sort of tablet?
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#9 psx_warrior
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[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

Never mind the low specs.

Imagine playing Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, or some other old school game on the train on a Surface with the digitizing pen.

Imagine the freaken possibilities. PC gaming at the palm of one's hand is now possible!

loosingENDS

It is very low spec, i would rather get a tablet/laptop hybrid, with a much better CPU/GPU

For once, we are on the same page.
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#10 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

Never mind the low specs.

Imagine playing Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, or some other old school game on the train on a Surface with the digitizing pen.

Imagine the freaken possibilities. PC gaming at the palm of one's hand is now possible!

psx_warrior

It is very low spec, i would rather get a tablet/laptop hybrid, with a much better CPU/GPU

For once, we are on the same page.

I would be the first to jump in if it had enough ram/power to run 3D studio and program on, but this will hardly do any of those

A laptop that becomes tablet would be my first choice, if it can take the heat of course

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#11 flashn00b
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Sad part is, it's probably better than my laptop. I think it's a miracle that Dawn of War 2: Retribution is playable on that thing! (No single digit frames per second.)

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#12 rjdofu
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Tons of other hybrid tablet can do that now :|.
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both my desktop and my laptop (individually) cost less than that and cream it

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Progress will make desktop and non-hybrid laptops obsolete. i7 Quadcore and the latest GPU in a tablet form factor with over 8 hr battery life. Till then, we're stuck with this stop-gap.

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Progress will make desktop and non-hybrid laptops obsolete. i7 Quadcore and the latest GPU in a tablet form factor with over 8 hr battery life. Till then, we're stuck with this stop-gap.

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this post made me blow more air out of my nose than usual

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Progress will make desktop and non-hybrid laptops obsolete. i7 Quadcore and the latest GPU in a tablet form factor with over 8 hr battery life. Till then, we're stuck with this stop-gap.

Mr_BillGates

hey guess what? before they can slim it down to tablet form factor is the bulky Destop form factor. Then the Laptop Form factor. The more powerful tech will always be bigger. Hence why super comuters are still gigantic.

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Progress will make desktop and non-hybrid laptops obsolete. i7 Quadcore and the latest GPU in a tablet form factor with over 8 hr battery life. Till then, we're stuck with this stop-gap.

Mr_BillGates
Do you know how big & heavy the latest GPU is?
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[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Progress will make desktop and non-hybrid laptops obsolete. i7 Quadcore and the latest GPU in a tablet form factor with over 8 hr battery life. Till then, we're stuck with this stop-gap.

Jonwh18

hey guess what? before they can slim it down to tablet form factor is the bulky Destop form factor. Then the Laptop Form factor. The more powerful tech will always be bigger. Hence why super comuters are still gigantic.

Stop making sense :x
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I'm beginning to see the value in Sony trying to keep the ps3 going for as long as it can before introducing a next gen console and keeping the flow of games coming to the ps3.
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Lol @ tablet gaming.

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#21 psx_warrior
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Lol @ tablet gaming.

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It can be quite fun if you get a game that utilizes the touch screen properly, and I'm not talking about Angry Birds either. I've played plenty of great touch screen games that were a lot of fun. RPGs are particularly at home on touch screen devices. FPSs to a slightly lesser degree as well.
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#22 everythingcasua
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tablets and pc gaming lulz peanut butter and and oil sound like a yummy mix.
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I'm beginning to see the value in Sony trying to keep the ps3 going for as long as it can before introducing a next gen console and keeping the flow of games coming to the ps3. psx_warrior
Not trolling but how does your comment relate to the thread? Its probably obious but its friday and im running on fumes at the moment :P
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#24 ronvalencia
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Never mind the low specs.

Imagine playing Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, or some other old school game on the train on a Surface with the digitizing pen.

Imagine the freaken possibilities. PC gaming at the palm of one's hand is now possible!

The_Capitalist
I'll wait for Intel Haswell based tablet i.e. better GPU.
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You gotta understand, I don't spend 1000 dollars buying tablet to play PC games that I can play infinitely better on my, well, PC. I buy tablet for other reasons.
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#26 donalbane
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You gotta understand, I don't spend 1000 dollars buying tablet to play PC games that I can play infinitely better on my, well, PC. I buy tablet for other reasons.funsohng
Yeah, I agree. It's not supposed to be a laptop... anything it shares with a laptop is just a bonus. If I had a surface, I'd use it for email, browsing, casual games , movies on the go and magazines/ebooks. Little else.
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#27 clyde46
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You necro'd a two month old thread?!
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#28 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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It has no dedicated GPU....
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#29 Heil68
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Not really. I'll stick with my desktop.
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#30 lowe0
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For Nvidia users, wouldn't a Tegra tablet with Splashtop work just as well? I just got my nexus a couple weeks ago, so I haven't set it up yet, but I don't see why this wouldn't work.
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I would just build a PC instead.
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#32 blackace
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Never mind the low specs.

Imagine playing Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, or some other old school game on the train on a Surface with the digitizing pen.

Imagine the freaken possibilities. PC gaming at the palm of one's hand is now possible!

The_Capitalist
LOL!! No. Microsoft overpriced their tablet compared to the compeition and didn't even add any extra features. Microsoft's Surface to the Apple's IPad 4 is like the PSP Go to the PSP. Microsoft pretty much shot themselves in the foot. One of the guys who helped to launch the original XBox was on the project and they pulled him off of it because he was taking to long to get the Surface launched. So they brought some other guy on board to finish the job and this mess is the results. Now Microsoft has poor sales and no one really wants the Surface with the terrible Windows 8 on it. I can see people getting an IPad Mini, Kindle Fire HD or a Nexus tablet before wasting their money on a Surface. My wife loves her Kindle Fire HD and I'm pretty happy with the IPad 2.
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#33 blackace
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tablets and pc gaming lulz peanut butter and and oil sound like a yummy mix.everythingcasua
You know that Peanut Butter does have oil in it right? Yes, it actually is a yummy mix. I think you used a bad analogy in this case. Tablet gaming is a nice distraction when you are out and on the go. There are a few decent games that work really well with the touch screen. It'll never replace PC or console gaming however.
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I question the intelligence of anyone who buys this thing.
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#35 clr84651
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I seriously don't get it. Who are they trying to market this thing to that don't already have some sort of tablet?psx_warrior

An imaginary audience that it really appeals to. No one!

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#36 V3rciS
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next we see people saying iPAD to be the next super gaming machine... no thx

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#37 I_AM_MEGATRON
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4 hours battery life :lol: no thanks

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#38 amaneuvering
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The Pro should actually be pretty great for traditional tablet style games to be fair.

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Actually, I stand corrected when I said you wouldn't play any games on this thing. I was looking around and found some Youtube videos that feature gameplay on the Surface Pro's video solution, and despite the fact that you would have to turn the settings pretty much to their bare minimum, it looks like the Surface Pro and it's HD 4000 should be able to play all sorts of PC games. Far Cry 3, Crysis 2, the Witcher 2, Battlefield 3... all of them playable on the integrated graphics. It won't look as nice as your rig of course, but it's still a nice option to have. So yeah... bonus.
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Actually, I stand corrected when I said you wouldn't play any games on this thing. I was looking around and found some Youtube videos that feature gameplay on the Surface Pro's video solution, and despite the fact that you would have to turn the settings pretty much to their bare minimum, it looks like the Surface Pro and it's HD 4000 should be able to play all sorts of PC games. Far Cry 3, Crysis 2, the Witcher 2, Battlefield 3... all of them playable on the integrated graphics. It won't look as nice as your rig of course, but it's still a nice option to have. So yeah... bonus. donalbane

This is exactly what people arent paying attention to. Apparently they played Borderlands 2 on it during some side demos in Las Vegas during CES. I also heard it played Civilization V. Think about that for a second. You likely can run Steam on this thing and most if not all of its games. iTunes will run on it. Yes you will be able to run development environments on it too. Its not likely worth playing some of today's top games on, but I'm sure it will adequately play legacy titles and titles that arent as graphically demanding like BF3. Thats far better than what you can do on any other tablet.

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[QUOTE="donalbane"]Actually, I stand corrected when I said you wouldn't play any games on this thing. I was looking around and found some Youtube videos that feature gameplay on the Surface Pro's video solution, and despite the fact that you would have to turn the settings pretty much to their bare minimum, it looks like the Surface Pro and it's HD 4000 should be able to play all sorts of PC games. Far Cry 3, Crysis 2, the Witcher 2, Battlefield 3... all of them playable on the integrated graphics. It won't look as nice as your rig of course, but it's still a nice option to have. So yeah... bonus. -ArchAngeL-777-

This is exactly what people arent paying attention to. Apparently they played Borderlands 2 on it during some side demos in Las Vegas during CES. I also heard it played Civilization V. Think about that for a second. You likely can run Steam on this thing and most if not all of its games. iTunes will run on it. Yes you will be able to run development environments on it too. Its not likely worth playing some of today's top games on, but I'm sure it will adequately play legacy titles and titles that arent as graphically demanding like BF3. Thats far better than what you can do on any other tablet.

I could get a touchscreen ultra book with a dedicated gpu for the same price that does everything it does though.
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#42 Bangerman15
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yes it's a great tablet and although you can only play modern games at low settings, they are still playable in such a small form factor. Imagine once haswell releases or whatever amd has up it's sleeve as I believe haswell will once again double the graphics processing of the hd 4000
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[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]

[QUOTE="donalbane"]Actually, I stand corrected when I said you wouldn't play any games on this thing. I was looking around and found some Youtube videos that feature gameplay on the Surface Pro's video solution, and despite the fact that you would have to turn the settings pretty much to their bare minimum, it looks like the Surface Pro and it's HD 4000 should be able to play all sorts of PC games. Far Cry 3, Crysis 2, the Witcher 2, Battlefield 3... all of them playable on the integrated graphics. It won't look as nice as your rig of course, but it's still a nice option to have. So yeah... bonus. MBirdy88

This is exactly what people arent paying attention to. Apparently they played Borderlands 2 on it during some side demos in Las Vegas during CES. I also heard it played Civilization V. Think about that for a second. You likely can run Steam on this thing and most if not all of its games. iTunes will run on it. Yes you will be able to run development environments on it too. Its not likely worth playing some of today's top games on, but I'm sure it will adequately play legacy titles and titles that arent as graphically demanding like BF3. Thats far better than what you can do on any other tablet.

I could get a touchscreen ultra book with a dedicated gpu for the same price that does everything it does though.

Most ultrabooks Ive seen arent really all that much better if at all, for the same price.

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]

This is exactly what people arent paying attention to. Apparently they played Borderlands 2 on it during some side demos in Las Vegas during CES. I also heard it played Civilization V. Think about that for a second. You likely can run Steam on this thing and most if not all of its games. iTunes will run on it. Yes you will be able to run development environments on it too. Its not likely worth playing some of today's top games on, but I'm sure it will adequately play legacy titles and titles that arent as graphically demanding like BF3. Thats far better than what you can do on any other tablet.

-ArchAngeL-777-

I could get a touchscreen ultra book with a dedicated gpu for the same price that does everything it does though.

Most ultrabooks Ive seen arent really all that much better if at all, for the same price.

Having a dedicated gpu, and actually being able to use it on your lap kinda makes a difference.
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In fact, checking out ultrabooks for the same price shows many of them using very similar if not the same specifications as the Surface Pro. They usually are bigger than the Surface though. I think people are overestimating the alternatives.

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[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] I could get a touchscreen ultra book with a dedicated gpu for the same price that does everything it does though.MBirdy88

Most ultrabooks Ive seen arent really all that much better if at all, for the same price.

Having a dedicated gpu, and actually being able to use it on your lap kinda makes a difference.

The Surface can be used in your lap just fine, and you can hook a USB mouse in same as you have on your laptop.

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#47 donalbane
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In fact, checking out ultrabooks for the same price shows many of them using very similar if not the same specifications as the Surface Pro. They usually are bigger than the Surface though. I think people are overestimating the alternatives.

-ArchAngeL-777-

Yeah, and discounting the form-factor. All accounts that the ergonomics, design and build quality of the Surface line is on par with if not superior to the iPad, which is really exciting for people who aren't into Apple products but want a high end tablet experience.

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#48 NamelessPlayer
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I'm a Tablet PC enthusiast, but I sure as hell don't buy them for games. Not when most of them are crippled with Intel graphics, and the only decent dedicated graphics option is a Fujitsu Lifebook T901 with an NVIDIA Quadro NVS 4200M, which still isn't all that powerful. And it's optional, and it still costs over $1,000 in most cases. Also, there's another major issue that prevents old-school RPGs like Baldur's Gate, Fallout, etc. from working as well as you'd think with an active digitizer pen; they're made for relative mouse input, so an absolute input device like a digitizer pen results in the game cursor utterly spazzing out on you. Damn shame, since it would be pretty nice to play them that way. Long story short, tablet computers are work tools (at least the ones equipped with proper digitizer pens from Wacom or N-trig or some other vendor), not playthings. Leave the gaming to a PC with some decent graphics hardware under the hood, which is most likely a desktop unless you want to pay twice the price for half the performance because portability is that important to you.
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[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]

In fact, checking out ultrabooks for the same price shows many of them using very similar if not the same specifications as the Surface Pro. They usually are bigger than the Surface though. I think people are overestimating the alternatives.

donalbane

Yeah, and discounting the form-factor. All accounts that the ergonomics, design and build quality of the Surface line is on par with Mac, which is really exciting for people who aren't into Apple products.

I agree. All the hands on reports seem very positive too. For me, its finally a tablet that I consider actually useful. Overall they are pretty cool devices, but if Im going to shell out $500+ on a tablet, it had better do more than my smartphone.

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#50 -ArchAngeL-777-
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I'm a Tablet PC enthusiast, but I sure as hell don't buy them for games. Not when most of them are crippled with Intel graphics, and the only decent dedicated graphics option is a Fujitsu Lifebook T901 with an NVIDIA Quadro NVS 4200M, which still isn't all that powerful. And it's optional, and it still costs over $1,000 in most cases. Also, there's another major issue that prevents old-school RPGs like Baldur's Gate, Fallout, etc. from working as well as you'd think with an active digitizer pen; they're made for relative mouse input, so an absolute input device like a digitizer pen results in the game cursor utterly spazzing out on you. Damn shame, since it would be pretty nice to play them that way. Long story short, tablet computers are work tools (at least the ones equipped with proper digitizer pens from Wacom or N-trig or some other vendor), not playthings. Leave the gaming to a PC with some decent graphics hardware under the hood, which is most likely a desktop unless you want to pay twice the price for half the performance because portability is that important to you.NamelessPlayer

I dont think you buy them for games, but the fact the Surface can adequately play PC games is a definite plus. I have a gaming laptop but its big (18" HP). its essentially a desktop replacement, and its battery is shot. I have to keep it plugged in all the time. Replacement batteries for it are next to worthless as they have a reputation for lasting maybe a year for your $120+.

Bottom line: I dont need a new gaming machine, but would like to have another portable option without buying another full up laptop. Surface will fill that portability void I am missing, plus be a better gaming option that traditional tablets if I so choose. Its essentially a laptop in tablet form which is perfect for my needs.