Mikami: Res Evil is not a horror series because REmake didn't sell. But RE4 did.

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#1 Jakandsigz
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So basically confirmation that RE4 is why RE is what RE6 is today.

Mikami series creator If the GameCube-exclusive Resident Evil remake had sold better, the series may never have become so driven by action. Series creator Shinji Mikami, formerly of Capcom and now working on The Evil Within at Bethesda-owned Tango Gameworks, told IGN it was a natural result of broadening Resident Evil 4's development. If you want to keep a great horror game franchise, you have to work with people who really like horror games. If you bring in developers from other places, youre going to end up with a more action-oriented game," Mikami said." With Resident Evil 4, I intended to make more of an action game--5 and 6 were outside of my responsibility, of course--but with Resident Evil 2 and 3, that wasnt necessarily the intention I started with. They just naturally became more like action games. With Resident Evil 4, he changed his primary goal from scaring the player to making the game fun in hopes of reviving the series' sales. It worked.

So Resident Evil is pretty much confirmed doomed. I believe 6 reached beyond 3 million maybe even 4 at this point. But then it goes both ways because here is something lolcom dod not think about. So you put RE4 on the PS2 because the GC version was not selling but you did not put REmake on the PS2 because the GC version is not selling? There is some fish in this puddle here.
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Yet RE4 is the best in the franchise and one of THE best games around. 

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Yet RE4 is the best in the franchise and one of THE best games around. 

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So I guess you agree with its current direction?
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#4 Jack-Burton
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It's Nintendos fault yet again.
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So, it's nintengodno's fault?
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"5 and 6 were outside of my responsibility, of course" And that is why they were not even close to 4 in quality. "With Resident Evil 4, he changed his primary goal from scaring the player to making the game fun in hopes of reviving the series' sales. It worked." So true. Resident Evil games weren't even scary once you turned 11.
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RE4 is nothing like RE5 or RE6, this delusional moron doesnt know a damn thing about his own franchise.  RE4 was actually horror and had times of terror.

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No it wasn;t it was a hallway shooter with some random jump scares and a lot of monster in a lake.
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"5 and 6 were outside of my responsibility, of course" And that is why they were not even close to 4 in quality. "With Resident Evil 4, he changed his primary goal from scaring the player to making the game fun in hopes of reviving the series' sales. It worked." So true. Resident Evil games weren't even scary once you turned 11.tagyhag

Never once found them scary. I mean some parts startled me cos of jumpscares (dog through window) but overall they weren't scary. Silent Hill was the scary series

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#10 Michael0134567
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As long as the games are as awesome as 6, I'm happy.

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I love RE4. Not complaining.
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#12 Lumpy311
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As long as the games are as awesome as 6, I'm happy.

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Your taste in games and music sucks.

Weren't you the guy that tought Drake was a better rapper than Masta Ace? :lol:

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RE4 is pretty fun, but I think it could have been possible to keep the same gameplay of RE4, and still be a horror game. They just chose to not make anything about the game scary which is a shame.

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#14 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

As long as the games are as awesome as 6, I'm happy.

Lumpy311

Your taste in games and music sucks.

Weren't you the guy that tought Drake was a better rapper than Masta Ace? :lol:

The hell are you talking about?
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#15 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

As long as the games are as awesome as 6, I'm happy.

Michael0134567

Your taste in games and music sucks.

Weren't you the guy that tought Drake was a better rapper than Masta Ace? :lol:

The hell are you talking about?

Pretty sure you forgot about it, no worries, i'l save you the embarassment.

 

Your taste in games still sucks, tough.

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#16 Seabas989
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Well RE4 is the best in the series.

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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Your taste in games and music sucks.

Weren't you the guy that tought Drake was a better rapper than Masta Ace? :lol:

Lumpy311

The hell are you talking about?

Pretty sure you forgot about it, no worries, i'l save you the embarassment.

 

Your taste in games still sucks, tough.

Never said anything like that. Don't even listen to rap. Because I like games you don't? Ass.
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I loved the GC REmake. I loved RE4 more though.
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Lazy excuses from incompetent pandering developers who are afraid to do anything new/different.
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#20 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"] The hell are you talking about?Michael0134567

Pretty sure you forgot about it, no worries, i'l save you the embarassment.

 

Your taste in games still sucks, tough.

Never said anything like that. Don't even listen to rap. Because I like games you don't? Ass.

No, because you like shit games that are universally recognized as shit.

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Something doesn't add up here. If he's blaming the REmake's sales (which are over a million, mind you) for putting RE in it's action position, then WHY in the hell did they still bother releasing REZero sometime after that?
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Pretty sure you forgot about it, no worries, i'l save you the embarassment.

 

Your taste in games still sucks, tough.

Lumpy311

Never said anything like that. Don't even listen to rap. Because I like games you don't? Ass.

No, because you like shit games that are universally recognized as shit.

And I also like games that are universally praised. Your point?
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#23 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"] Never said anything like that. Don't even listen to rap. Because I like games you don't? Ass.Michael0134567

No, because you like shit games that are universally recognized as shit.

And I also like games that are universally praised. Your point?

You like a shit game, therefore, you have a shit taste.

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Man, I loved REmake, I really miss that style of RE I just felt the series needed to fix it controls.. RE4 was at least good, despite me not really enjoying it and thinking it gets a praised a little too much, but it certianly better than the garbage out now, like RE6.
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Your taste in games and music sucks.

Weren't you the guy that tought Drake was a better rapper than Masta Ace? :lol:

Lumpy311

The hell are you talking about?

Pretty sure you forgot about it, no worries, i'l save you the embarassment.

Don't save him. Embarrass him. Show proof. kFnPhcc.gif

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#26 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"] The hell are you talking about?TecmoGirl

Pretty sure you forgot about it, no worries, i'l save you the embarassment.

Don't save him. Embarrass him. Show proof. kFnPhcc.gif

i'd have to find a 4 month old thread

 

don't feel like it

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[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Pretty sure you forgot about it, no worries, i'l save you the embarassment.

Lumpy311

Don't save him. Embarrass him. Show proof. kFnPhcc.gif

i'd have to find a 4 month old thread

 

don't feel like it

So you got no proof. As expected.
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#28 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]

Don't save him. Embarrass him. Show proof. kFnPhcc.gif

Michael0134567

i'd have to find a 4 month old thread

 

don't feel like it

So you got no proof. As expected.

Yeah, probably confused you with someone else.

 

Still, you have a shit taste in games.

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Something doesn't add up here. If he's blaming the REmake's sales (which are over a million, mind you) for putting RE in it's action position, then WHY in the hell did they still bother releasing REZero sometime after that?nintendoboy16
It was the same year and a couple months later though.
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#30 TecmoGirl
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

i'd have to find a 4 month old thread

 

don't feel like it

Lumpy311

So you got no proof. As expected.

Yeah, probably confused you with someone else.

 

Still, you have a shit taste in games.

Not surprising. You'd have to be confused in the head to think MA was better than Drizzy.  

Michael has great taste for the record. Hatin ass. =)

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#31 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"] So you got no proof. As expected.TecmoGirl

Yeah, probably confused you with someone else.

 

Still, you have a shit taste in games.

Not surprising. You'd have to be confused in the head to think MA was better than Drizzy.  

Michael has great taste for the record. Hatin ass. =)

Haha, "Started from the bottom" vs anything Masta Ace has put out, don't  make me laugh.

 

Michael has shit taste by the way.

 

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RE4 is nothing like RE5 or RE6, this delusional moron doesnt know a damn thing about his own franchise.  RE4 was actually horror and had times of terror.

kingoflife9

Not really... it was a great game (even for me who played that shitty port on the PC), but it severely lacked in horror.

Only part I found somewhat disturbing was the first fight with those new zombies on the island, the ones you can't kill without the thermal scope.

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#33 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="kingoflife9"]

RE4 is nothing like RE5 or RE6, this delusional moron doesnt know a damn thing about his own franchise.  RE4 was actually horror and had times of terror.

NameIess_One

Not really... it was a great game (even for me who played that shitty port on the PC), but it severely lacked in horror.

Only part I found somewhat disturbing was the first fight with those new zombies on the island, the ones you can't kill without the thermal scope.

the Iron Maidens were fvcking scary as shit

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Something doesn't add up here. If he's blaming the REmake's sales (which are over a million, mind you) for putting RE in it's action position, then WHY in the hell did they still bother releasing REZero sometime after that?Jakandsigz
It was the same year and a couple months later though.

Okay, now that spawns another problem right there. Throwing out a remake and a prequel in the same year and a couple months. Surely not cramping things at all. :roll:

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Yet RE4 is the best in the franchise and one of THE best games around. 

seanmcloughlin
Yep, I'll gladly take the series being dead for us to have Resi 4. It is a shame that publishers don't think quality is in any way indicative of sales though, they just see "oh a game with lots of shooting sold better than one with less, guess we'd better make all our games actiony now!" as if Resi 4 being goddamn amazing and receiving massive amounts of praise from everyone had nothing to do with the sales.
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It just shows how clueless he is. Resident Evil was hugely popular and sold really well. As did RE 2, 3 and Code Versonica. Then, Capcom signed a deal to have the RE series exclusive to the very much 3rd place GC. Most of these were ports and they remade RE1. I have it, it was really good, but if Capcom thinks a bunch of remakes and ports were going to sell then they have their heads planted firmly up their behinds. Sure, they also made RE0 which got decent reviews but in my opinion is god awful and first signs the franchise had completely run out of ideas. They sold it as the game that explains it all. The game that explains the mystery of the zombies. Instead, like every RE game, it explained pretty much nothing and was just more of the same. The game sucked,

RE4 sold so well because (a) it was the first REAL RE game they put out and because it was the first to update the old, outdated, clunky control system. It sold well because it was FUN and it made people feel that, although it was a bit more actiony, they were still in the midst of zombie hell. It was the game that renewed people's faith in the RE franchise.

Then Capcom showed that RE4 was more of an accident because 5 was terrible and a big step backwards. And now we are being told the reason they came out with the massive bomb of RE6 - which literally had "normal" every day police officers pulling mexican wrestling moves on zombies - is because REmake didn't sell well but RE4 did? What a bunch of garbage. It's no wonder so many Japanese devs are now floundering. They clearly have no clue about their own industry anymore. They want to coast on making the exact same game over and over again and wonder why sales start to drop.

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RE5 = Best in the series.

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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"] So you got no proof. As expected.TecmoGirl

Yeah, probably confused you with someone else.

 

Still, you have a shit taste in games.

Not surprising. You'd have to be confused in the head to think MA was better than Drizzy.  

Michael has great taste for the record. Hatin ass. =)

He's too upset to see that.
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#39 freedomfreak
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As long as the games are as awesome as 6, I'm happy.

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Pretty much.
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#40 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Yeah, probably confused you with someone else.

 

Still, you have a shit taste in games.

Michael0134567

Not surprising. You'd have to be confused in the head to think MA was better than Drizzy.  

Michael has great taste for the record. Hatin ass. =)

He's too upset to see that.

I'd rather kill myself than play trough RE6 again.

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[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

[QUOTE="kingoflife9"]

RE4 is nothing like RE5 or RE6, this delusional moron doesnt know a damn thing about his own franchise.  RE4 was actually horror and had times of terror.

Lumpy311

Not really... it was a great game (even for me who played that shitty port on the PC), but it severely lacked in horror.

Only part I found somewhat disturbing was the first fight with those new zombies on the island, the ones you can't kill without the thermal scope.

the Iron Maidens were fvcking scary as shit

Ah, forgot that's what they're called. Also, killing them was satisfying as fvck, great enemy type!

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[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]So basically confirmation that RE4 is why RE is what RE6 is today.

Mikami series creator If the GameCube-exclusive Resident Evil remake had sold better, the series may never have become so driven by action. Series creator Shinji Mikami, formerly of Capcom and now working on The Evil Within at Bethesda-owned Tango Gameworks, told IGN it was a natural result of broadening Resident Evil 4's development. If you want to keep a great horror game franchise, you have to work with people who really like horror games. If you bring in developers from other places, youre going to end up with a more action-oriented game," Mikami said." With Resident Evil 4, I intended to make more of an action game--5 and 6 were outside of my responsibility, of course--but with Resident Evil 2 and 3, that wasnt necessarily the intention I started with. They just naturally became more like action games. With Resident Evil 4, he changed his primary goal from scaring the player to making the game fun in hopes of reviving the series' sales. It worked.

So Resident Evil is pretty much confirmed doomed. I believe 6 reached beyond 3 million maybe even 4 at this point. But then it goes both ways because here is something lolcom dod not think about. So you put RE4 on the PS2 because the GC version was not selling but you did not put REmake on the PS2 because the GC version is not selling? There is some fish in this puddle here.

Putting RE4 on PS2 will generate more sales while REmake on PS2 most likely won't.
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[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Something doesn't add up here. If he's blaming the REmake's sales (which are over a million, mind you) for putting RE in it's action position, then WHY in the hell did they still bother releasing REZero sometime after that?nintendoboy16

It was the same year and a couple months later though.

Okay, now that spawns another problem right there. Throwing out a remake and a prequel in the same year and a couple months. Surely not cramping things at all. :roll:

I'm not sure what the problem there was? RE0 got no hype, and wasn't expected to do well. REmake did, and was expected to do well, and ultimately it didn't do as well as Capcom wanted. You're just creating problems where none existed. Of course, after Resident Evil 6 bombing, I'm assuming the action game route is out for Capcom too? So if Resident Evil can't be horror, and it can't be action, what will it be now? Puzzle?
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[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]So basically confirmation that RE4 is why RE is what RE6 is today.

Mikami series creator If the GameCube-exclusive Resident Evil remake had sold better, the series may never have become so driven by action. Series creator Shinji Mikami, formerly of Capcom and now working on The Evil Within at Bethesda-owned Tango Gameworks, told IGN it was a natural result of broadening Resident Evil 4's development. If you want to keep a great horror game franchise, you have to work with people who really like horror games. If you bring in developers from other places, youre going to end up with a more action-oriented game," Mikami said." With Resident Evil 4, I intended to make more of an action game--5 and 6 were outside of my responsibility, of course--but with Resident Evil 2 and 3, that wasnt necessarily the intention I started with. They just naturally became more like action games. With Resident Evil 4, he changed his primary goal from scaring the player to making the game fun in hopes of reviving the series' sales. It worked.

So Resident Evil is pretty much confirmed doomed. I believe 6 reached beyond 3 million maybe even 4 at this point. But then it goes both ways because here is something lolcom dod not think about. So you put RE4 on the PS2 because the GC version was not selling but you did not put REmake on the PS2 because the GC version is not selling? There is some fish in this puddle here.

Putting RE4 on PS2 will generate more sales while REmake on PS2 most likely won't.

And your basis for that statement is...?
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RE5 = Best in the series.

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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

As long as the games are as awesome as 6, I'm happy.

freedomfreak
Pretty much.

Looks like you've got shit taste.
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#47 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

As long as the games are as awesome as 6, I'm happy.

Michael0134567

Pretty much.

Looks like you've got shit taste.

No, you do.

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#48 Sakurah_Blossom
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

As long as the games are as awesome as 6, I'm happy.

Michael0134567
Pretty much.

Looks like you've got shit taste.

Now that's not a very nice thing to say..
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#49 Fizzman
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Does he seriously believe REmake didn't sell well because it was not actiony enough?  It didn't sell well because it was a Gamecube exclusive and Nintendo fans don't care for the RE series.  

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#50 freedomfreak
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Looks like you've got shit taste.Michael0134567
Now I'm gonna have to try really hard to care about how someone feels about that. It might push me to the edge. It just might.