Minecraft Xbox 360 getting paid DLC; PC gamers keep making your custom stuff.

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#1 ShadowDeathX
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A collection of 40 new character skins is coming to the Xbox 360 version of Minecraft to coincide with the 1.7.3 title update due next week.

The Skin Pack DLC will be a mix of original designs as well as references to characters from other games, reports Play XBLA. Revealed so far are the protagonists from 'Splosion Man and Trials HD as well as Covenant Grunt, Creeper and King outfits. We've added screenshots of these new looks below.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-07-05-minecraft-getting-40-new-character-skins-as-dlc

The DLC won't be released on the PC. PC gamers have mods to make their own stuff. No need for silly DLC that can be made using MS PAINT in less than 2 minutes.

4J Studios did say that they wanted to make the 360 version cater to Xbox 360 users......guess this is it? :P

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#2 tagyhag
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http://www.minecraftskins.com/weekly-top/1/

:lol: Really do feel sorry for those dudes that have to pay for the skins. Too bad there's no way to get from the PC to the 360 via USB.

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Isn't there an Xbox Live Policy that doesn't allow DLC unless the Publisher/Dev pays for it?

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#4 Miroku32
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And that's why PC > Consoles.
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#5 Rocker6
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Nice,360 version gets exclusive and superior content.

That's the superior game version,right there!

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#6 ShadowDeathX
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Isn't there an Xbox Live Policy that doesn't allow DLC unless the Publisher/Dev pays for it?

Maneil99
Yes. If the content is free on the "other" platform, it will be free on the Xbox 360. Minecraft is not on the "other" platform. So exemption can't be possible.
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#7 GhoX
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Isn't there an Xbox Live Policy that doesn't allow DLC unless the Publisher/Dev pays for it?

Maneil99
Aye, that's the problem. The same thing will happen if Skyrim mods come onto consoles too.
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#8 UXO13
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Lol.
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#9 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Xbox wins again.

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i try not to ridicule the stupid shyt that people buy.

i fail of course and still make fun of the dumbass shyt that people enjoy but i piss my money away foolishly too so i don't have much room to judge.

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#11 dream431ca
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:lol: :lol: Poor lems forced to pay. :lol: :lol:

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#12 Kickinurass
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Lol. What a ripoff. Still not as bad the Gears of War gun pack though...

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#13 Bardock47
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Wait is this part of the "free" updates Xbox is supposed to get. Becuse if so HA, I knew we have to pay for the damn updates.

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i try not to ridicule the stupid shyt that people buy.

i fail of course and still make fun of the dumbass shyt that people enjoy but i piss my money away foolishly too so i don't have much room to judge.

Riverwolf007
yea....ill probably end up buying these when i get back into minecraft lol. i have the pc version but its a lot more fun being able to play with my friends and mess around and its a lot less of a hassle
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Meh.
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Damn Lemmings stay paying for things that are free elsewhere. What a bunch of tools :lol:

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Damn Lemmings stay paying for things that are free elsewhere. What a bunch of tools :lol:

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why do you care what other people spend their money on?
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Damn Lemmings stay paying for things that are free elsewhere. What a bunch of tools :lol:

mems_1224

why do you care what other people spend their money on?

Agreed, if its worth it them they can enjoy. But his perspective is porbably of that, well if they can get away with chraging for skins, what else will they pay for, and charge for anything.

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Damn Lemmings stay paying for things that are free elsewhere. What a bunch of tools :lol:

mems_1224

why do you care what other people spend their money on?

Because its funny

Online on every platform, free. $60/year on 360

Spelunky on PC, free. $15 on 360

Minecraft skins on PC, free. Paid DLC on 360

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Lol paying for minecraft skins.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Damn Lemmings stay paying for things that are free elsewhere. What a bunch of tools :lol:

BPoole96

why do you care what other people spend their money on?

Because its funny

Online on every platform, free. $60/year on 360

Spelunky on PC, free. $15 on 360

Minecraft skins on PC, free. Paid DLC on 360

Crap like this is why I might bail on the Xbox next gen and go Wiiu/PS4.

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#22 dream431ca
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Damn Lemmings stay paying for things that are free elsewhere. What a bunch of tools :lol:

BPoole96

Agreed. What scares me though is that they WANT to pay for it. They're not just tools, they're brain washed.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Damn Lemmings stay paying for things that are free elsewhere. What a bunch of tools :lol:

BPoole96

why do you care what other people spend their money on?

Because its funny

Online on every platform, free. $60/year on 360

Spelunky on PC, free. $15 on 360

Minecraft skins on PC, free. Paid DLC on 360

yea but on consoles other than xbla online gaming is awful when did supporting a developer become a bad thing? if spelunky is as great as everyone says it is i would gladly spend $15 on it eventually :? you're also able to mod and add things to games on pc. not on consoles. its not the same thing. and not having the skins doesnt affect the game a single bit so if someone wants to pay for some dumb skins i dont see the problem if they see value in it.
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] why do you care what other people spend their money on?mems_1224

Because its funny

Online on every platform, free. $60/year on 360

Spelunky on PC, free. $15 on 360

Minecraft skins on PC, free. Paid DLC on 360

yea but on consoles other than xbla online gaming is awful when did supporting a developer become a bad thing? if spelunky is as great as everyone says it is i would gladly spend $15 on it eventually :? you're also able to mod and add things to games on pc. not on consoles. its not the same thing. and not having the skins doesnt affect the game a single bit so if someone wants to pay for some dumb skins i dont see the problem if they see value in it.

What? Playing online on PS3 is fine, idk what your n about. Its comparable to 360.

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea but on consoles other than xbla online gaming is awful when did supporting a developer become a bad thing? if spelunky is as great as everyone says it is i would gladly spend $15 on it eventually :? you're also able to mod and add things to games on pc. not on consoles. its not the same thing. and not having the skins doesnt affect the game a single bit so if someone wants to pay for some dumb skins i dont see the problem if they see value in it.mems_1224

If the skins are dumb then why did you say you would buy them a couple posts above?

Just admit its a ripoff, its not like its your fault or anything. Little Big Planet used to get free costumes/skins all the time. There is no reason this couldn't have been done for Minecraft 360 as well. MS is just hell bent of squeezing every penny they possibly can out of their userbase.

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#26 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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If you must play a creation based game on console, it should be Little Big Planet 2!

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#27 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Because its funny

Online on every platform, free. $60/year on 360

Spelunky on PC, free. $15 on 360

Minecraft skins on PC, free. Paid DLC on 360

Bardock47

yea but on consoles other than xbla online gaming is awful when did supporting a developer become a bad thing? if spelunky is as great as everyone says it is i would gladly spend $15 on it eventually :? you're also able to mod and add things to games on pc. not on consoles. its not the same thing. and not having the skins doesnt affect the game a single bit so if someone wants to pay for some dumb skins i dont see the problem if they see value in it.

What? Playing online on PS3 is fine, idk what your n about. Its comparable to 360.

i dont agree. xbl is a much smoother experience. i do have limited experience with psn but when i use it it hasnt been pleasant. ive had xbl since around the time its first launched so its just that im more familiar with it
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea but on consoles other than xbla online gaming is awful when did supporting a developer become a bad thing? if spelunky is as great as everyone says it is i would gladly spend $15 on it eventually :? you're also able to mod and add things to games on pc. not on consoles. its not the same thing. and not having the skins doesnt affect the game a single bit so if someone wants to pay for some dumb skins i dont see the problem if they see value in it.BPoole96

If the skins are dumb then why did you say you would buy them a couple posts above?

Just admit its a ripoff, its not like its your fault or anything. Little Big Planet used to get free costumes/skins all the time. There is no reason this couldn't have been done for Minecraft 360 as well. MS is just hell bent of squeezing every penny they possibly can out of their userbase.

it cant be a ripoff if someone sees the value in it. idk if i'll buy em. if i get something else and have some points left over then sure, i might get em but i dont play minecraft enough right now to justify purchasing them. aren't costumes in LBP like $5? you dont know that they wont release free skins down the line
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[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea but on consoles other than xbla online gaming is awful when did supporting a developer become a bad thing? if spelunky is as great as everyone says it is i would gladly spend $15 on it eventually :? you're also able to mod and add things to games on pc. not on consoles. its not the same thing. and not having the skins doesnt affect the game a single bit so if someone wants to pay for some dumb skins i dont see the problem if they see value in it.mems_1224

What? Playing online on PS3 is fine, idk what your n about. Its comparable to 360.

i dont agree. xbl is a much smoother experience. i do have limited experience with psn but when i use it it hasnt been pleasant. ive had xbl since around the time its first launched so its just that im more familiar with it

exactly, you're just more familiar with it. if you got more familiar with psn you'd realize there isn't much of a difference aside from longer updates and no cross game chat. i thought the same as you originally, but then i got more "familiar" with my ps3...

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea but on consoles other than xbla online gaming is awful when did supporting a developer become a bad thing? if spelunky is as great as everyone says it is i would gladly spend $15 on it eventually :? you're also able to mod and add things to games on pc. not on consoles. its not the same thing. and not having the skins doesnt affect the game a single bit so if someone wants to pay for some dumb skins i dont see the problem if they see value in it.mems_1224

If the skins are dumb then why did you say you would buy them a couple posts above?

Just admit its a ripoff, its not like its your fault or anything. Little Big Planet used to get free costumes/skins all the time. There is no reason this couldn't have been done for Minecraft 360 as well. MS is just hell bent of squeezing every penny they possibly can out of their userbase.

it cant be a ripoff if someone sees the value in it. idk if i'll buy em. if i get something else and have some points left over then sure, i might get em but i dont play minecraft enough right now to justify purchasing them. aren't costumes in LBP like $5? you dont know that they wont release free skins down the line

How is there value in wearing a skin that you cannot even see? If this was a 3rd person game I could understand but you can't even see the costume as you play. There were skins for LBP that costed money but there were a lot of free one. Not sure if this continued for LBP2 since I only played that agme the first month or 2 but LBP1 I played on and off for awhile

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Bardock47"] What? Playing online on PS3 is fine, idk what your n about. Its comparable to 360.

lazerface216

i dont agree. xbl is a much smoother experience. i do have limited experience with psn but when i use it it hasnt been pleasant. ive had xbl since around the time its first launched so its just that im more familiar with it

exactly, you're just more familiar with it. if you got more familiar with psn you'd realize there isn't much of a difference aside from longer updates and no cross game chat. i thought the same as you originally, but then i got more "familiar" with my ps3...

cross game chat and being able to form parties on the fly is a big deal to me though. online gaming wouldn't be the same without those two features. i also like beacons. makes it easier to let my friends know what games i want to play at the moment
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

If the skins are dumb then why did you say you would buy them a couple posts above?

Just admit its a ripoff, its not like its your fault or anything. Little Big Planet used to get free costumes/skins all the time. There is no reason this couldn't have been done for Minecraft 360 as well. MS is just hell bent of squeezing every penny they possibly can out of their userbase.

BPoole96

it cant be a ripoff if someone sees the value in it. idk if i'll buy em. if i get something else and have some points left over then sure, i might get em but i dont play minecraft enough right now to justify purchasing them. aren't costumes in LBP like $5? you dont know that they wont release free skins down the line

How is there value in wearing a skin that you cannot even see? If this was a 3rd person game I could understand but you can't even see the costume as you play. There were skins for LBP that costed money but there were a lot of free one. Not sure if this continued for LBP2 since I only played that agme the first month or 2 but LBP1 I played on and off for awhile

you can see them. theres a third person view in minecraft.....
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lol, cows are shytting themselves because they cannot fathom how people could buy stupid shyt instead of something uber cool like a new anime collection. ;)

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TLHBO but then again thats the story of their history getting woned left & right

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]it cant be a ripoff if someone sees the value in it. idk if i'll buy em. if i get something else and have some points left over then sure, i might get em but i dont play minecraft enough right now to justify purchasing them. aren't costumes in LBP like $5? you dont know that they wont release free skins down the line mems_1224

How is there value in wearing a skin that you cannot even see? If this was a 3rd person game I could understand but you can't even see the costume as you play. There were skins for LBP that costed money but there were a lot of free one. Not sure if this continued for LBP2 since I only played that agme the first month or 2 but LBP1 I played on and off for awhile

you can see them. theres a third person view in minecraft.....

Haven't played it so I wouldn't know. Every gameplay I have seen was always first person

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#36 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

How is there value in wearing a skin that you cannot even see? If this was a 3rd person game I could understand but you can't even see the costume as you play. There were skins for LBP that costed money but there were a lot of free one. Not sure if this continued for LBP2 since I only played that agme the first month or 2 but LBP1 I played on and off for awhile

BPoole96

you can see them. theres a third person view in minecraft.....

Haven't played it so I wouldn't know. Every gameplay I have seen was always first person

so you actually just dont know what you're talking about. its ok for LBP to charge $5 per pack even if they give some of the crappier ones for free but oh noes, if minecraft on 360 does it its a complete ripoff. sounds hypocritical to me
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Lemmings won't mind -- they tend to swallow everything microsoft wants them too (DLC, Netflix, XBL, etc|)

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] you can see them. theres a third person view in minecraft.....mems_1224

Haven't played it so I wouldn't know. Every gameplay I have seen was always first person

so you actually just dont know what you're talking about. its ok for LBP to charge $5 per pack even if they give some of the crappier ones for free but oh noes, if minecraft on 360 does it its a complete ripoff. sounds hypocritical to me

lulz, not much point in even talking about it this falls squarely into the sw category of "shyt i like is awesome and shyt you like is ****ing stupid."

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#40 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Damn Lemmings stay paying for things that are free elsewhere. What a bunch of tools :lol:

getyeryayasout

Agreed. What scares me though is that they WANT to pay for it. They're not just tools, they're brain washed.

You'd have to be dim to believe that. 360 users pay because they have to, not because they want to.

you say that but what i think when all this fee business comes up is that if ms ever announced xbl would be free but exactly like psn i would be pretty bummed out about it.

so technically i do pay because i want to, and because in the scheme of the ripoffs i face every single day xbl fees are chicken feed.

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Lmao poor lemmons

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] you can see them. theres a third person view in minecraft.....mems_1224

Haven't played it so I wouldn't know. Every gameplay I have seen was always first person

so you actually just dont know what you're talking about. its ok for LBP to charge $5 per pack even if they give some of the crappier ones for free but oh noes, if minecraft on 360 does it its a complete ripoff. sounds hypocritical to me

So because I didn't know Minecraft had a 3rd person mode that means that makes me a hypocrite all of a sudden?

The difference between LBP and Minecraft is that Minecraft is on 2 platforms. One gets unlimited skins for free (PC, as well as being the superior version since it is the most recent version of the game), the other has to pay and only gets ones that are offered through XBL Marketplace. You have a PC right? Why would you voluntarily play the 360 version over the PC one?

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#43 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="getyeryayasout"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Agreed. What scares me though is that they WANT to pay for it. They're not just tools, they're brain washed.

Riverwolf007

You'd have to be dim to believe that. 360 users pay because they have to, not because they want to.

you say that but what i think when all this fee business comes up is that if ms ever announced xbl would be free but exactly like psn i would be pretty bummed out about it.

so technically i do pay because i want to, and because in the scheme of the ripoffs i face every single day xbl fees are chicken feed.

I asked SaintWalrus this question the other day and got a lolworthy response from him, maybe you will do better. What are all these amazing features in XBL Gold that set it so far and beyond over PSN that justifies the $60/year. I will start the list

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  • Slightly faster updates (although that doesn't matter to me since I have really fast internet)
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#44 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Haven't played it so I wouldn't know. Every gameplay I have seen was always first person

BPoole96

so you actually just dont know what you're talking about. its ok for LBP to charge $5 per pack even if they give some of the crappier ones for free but oh noes, if minecraft on 360 does it its a complete ripoff. sounds hypocritical to me

So because I didn't know Minecraft had a 3rd person mode that means that makes me a hypocrite all of a sudden?

The difference between LBP and Minecraft is that Minecraft is on 2 platforms. One gets unlimited skins for free (PC, as well as being the superior version since it is the most recent version of the game), the other has to pay and only gets ones that are offered through XBL Marketplace. You have a PC right? Why would you voluntarily play the 360 version over the PC one?

great. so if someone chooses to play the 360 version over the pc version and buys skins what do you care? no one ever claimed the 360 version was superior to the pc version. i play on the 360 because its so much easier and faster to just turn on my xbox, join a party and get into a game with people i regularly play online games with. i have both versions. i've played the 360 version way more
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#45 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="getyeryayasout"] You'd have to be dim to believe that. 360 users pay because they have to, not because they want to.

BPoole96

you say that but what i think when all this fee business comes up is that if ms ever announced xbl would be free but exactly like psn i would be pretty bummed out about it.

so technically i do pay because i want to, and because in the scheme of the ripoffs i face every single day xbl fees are chicken feed.

I asked SaintWalrus this question the other day and got a lolworthy response from him, maybe you will do better. What are all these amazing features in XBL Gold that set it so far and beyond over PSN that justifies the $60/year. I will start the list

  • Cross Game Chat
  • Slightly faster updates (although that doesn't matter to me since I have really fast internet)

beacons, weekly deals on xbla games and dlc, xbo go and other media services, being able to download games and demos with the system turned off(dont remember if ps3 can do this, i think its a ps+ perk right?) and im pretty sure theres more. granted it doesnt have the massive lead over psn that it did early on this gen but its still a better service
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#47 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="getyeryayasout"] You'd have to be dim to believe that. 360 users pay because they have to, not because they want to.

getyeryayasout

you say that but what i think when all this fee business comes up is that if ms ever announced xbl would be free but exactly like psn i would be pretty bummed out about it.

so technically i do pay because i want to, and because in the scheme of the ripoffs i face every single day xbl fees are chicken feed.

If MS offered a free service that was comparable to PSN I would be thrilled and would definitely use that rather than pay for whatever upgrades Gold might offer. PSN offers me everything I need in an online gaming service, I just don't see Gold as good value for money, even if it is chump-change.

you dont see the value in it and thats fair, i can see why people wouldn't want to pay for live, especially if they aren't going to take advantage of the features. but a lot of people do see value in it and i dont think there's anything wrong with that.
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:lol: :lol: Poor lems forced to pay. :lol: :lol:

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Every 360 owner is a lem now?

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="getyeryayasout"] You'd have to be dim to believe that. 360 users pay because they have to, not because they want to.

BPoole96

you say that but what i think when all this fee business comes up is that if ms ever announced xbl would be free but exactly like psn i would be pretty bummed out about it.

so technically i do pay because i want to, and because in the scheme of the ripoffs i face every single day xbl fees are chicken feed.

I asked SaintWalrus this question the other day and got a lolworthy response from him, maybe you will do better. What are all these amazing features in XBL Gold that set it so far and beyond over PSN that justifies the $60/year. I will start the list

  • Cross Game Chat
  • Slightly faster updates (although that doesn't matter to me since I have really fast internet)

a typical session will have me log in see some friends on, grab 3 or 4 of them and then bounce from game to game never taking us out of the group or having to find everyone and get us all on the same side for team racing or shooting or co-oping through something.

it does all that stuff in the background instead of dicking about waiting for everyone to get their shyt together.

during the load times and other waits it never shuts off the mics so while those are going on we are shooting the shyt and doing the most important things we do with our friends.... make fun of each other. :lol:

so is shyt like that going to be important to everyone? no of course not. but it is to me.

as far as it being a rip off sure lets call it that.

i piss away money all the time on stupid shyt. for an example the filter in my fridge costs $50 every few months and that is to filter my already clean water.

how stupid is that? but i like it so meh. i get ripped off on something that is mostly meaningless but i do it anyway because i like it better than regular tap water.

once you start the whole shyt i like is worth the money and things you like are dumb where do you ever stop?

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#50 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]you say that but what i think when all this fee business comes up is that if ms ever announced xbl would be free but exactly like psn i would be pretty bummed out about it.

so technically i do pay because i want to, and because in the scheme of the ripoffs i face every single day xbl fees are chicken feed.

mems_1224

I asked SaintWalrus this question the other day and got a lolworthy response from him, maybe you will do better. What are all these amazing features in XBL Gold that set it so far and beyond over PSN that justifies the $60/year. I will start the list

  • Cross Game Chat
  • Slightly faster updates (although that doesn't matter to me since I have really fast internet)

beacons, weekly deals on xbla games and dlc, xbo go and other media services, being able to download games and demos with the system turned off(dont remember if ps3 can do this, i think its a ps+ perk right?) and im pretty sure theres more. granted it doesnt have the massive lead over psn that it did early on this gen but its still a better service

None of those seem that great to where I feel like I am truly missing out though if I were to play on PSN. He said he would be 'bummed out' if XBL turned into PSN, and I'm saying that there really isn't that much difference. The main difference is cross game chat, and there is something called Skype, that is, you guessed it, free.