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#1 kmadon
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Ok so I just downloaded the demo and played the game. The game has a nice look and the game play is fun.

But OMFG at the screen tearing! There was quite a bit and very distracting.

The jaggies I could deal with but in a game where the selling point/gimmick is the immersiveness of the first person view. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! I was considering buying the game but now I wont unless the devs fix the issues for the retail version.

Your thoughts?

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#2 ONLYDOD
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I have no idea what these whole screen tearing or jaggy things are, but I swear some people let them bother them way too much.
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Ok so I just downloaded the demo and played the game. The game has a nice look and the game play is fun.

But OMFG at the screen tearing! There was quite a bit and very distracting.

The jaggies I could deal with but in a game where the selling point/gimmick is the immersiveness of the first person view. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! I was considering buying the game but now I wont unless the devs fix the issues for the retail version.

Your thoughts?

kmadon

Im not very savy on video game lingo, i know what pop ins are and stuff but what exactly is screen tearing?

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#4 mamkem6
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It is a demo.

There was screen tearing in BF:BC demo also but not in full game.

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#5 Floppy_Jim
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Can't say I noticed screen tearing, but it did have jaggies.
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#6 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="kmadon"]

Ok so I just downloaded the demo and played the game. The game has a nice look and the game play is fun.

But OMFG at the screen tearing! There was quite a bit and very distracting.

The jaggies I could deal with but in a game where the selling point/gimmick is the immersiveness of the first person view. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! I was considering buying the game but now I wont unless the devs fix the issues for the retail version.

Your thoughts?

Animal-Mother

Im not very savy on video game lingo, i know what pop ins are and stuff but what exactly is screen tearing?Because the mirrors edge didnt bother me too much

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#7 KinderChimp
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Where did you see the jaggies and on what console did you play it on? I didn't see any jaggies on the 360 version.
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#8 Couth_
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I didn't notice any screen tearing, but I noticed there are no bullet holes :D
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#9 Animal-Mother
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Can't say I noticed screen tearing, but it did have jaggies.Floppy_Jim
What is screen tearing floppy?
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#10 web966
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I didnt notice it at all.
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#11 mamkem6
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Can't say I noticed screen tearing, but it did have jaggies.Animal-Mother
What is screen tearing floppy?

This is screen tearing

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Can't say I noticed screen tearing, but it did have jaggies.Animal-Mother
What is screen tearing floppy?

screen tearing is where a line might come up during a game (horizontal line) and you will see it kind of mess up the screen a little it usually happens when there is a lot of action or fast movement on screen.

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Can't say I noticed screen tearing, but it did have jaggies.Animal-Mother
What is screen tearing floppy?

It's kinda hard to explain. Basically it's when you see weird horizontal lines going across the screen. Uncharted and Far Cry 2 have them, although rarely.

Edit: ^^^Yeah, those 2 guys explained it better than I did.

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#14 killerfist
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Never noticed screen tearing...

some jaggies, that's all. no big deal:|

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#15 II_Seraphim_II
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Im not gonna lie, but I got mad screen tearing too! Maybe it was cuz when i played the demo I was using my SDTV (My brother was watching a movie on my HDTV :x) but there was sum insane screen tearing.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Can't say I noticed screen tearing, but it did have jaggies.Animal-Mother
What is screen tearing floppy?

Screen tearing is this effect some games get when it looks like half way down the screen, the visuals are "torn" like a piece of paper and then they no longer match up...there is a GT5 P pic that shows screen tearing perfectly. Ah here, I found it:

You see on the right hand side next to the car, thats screen tearing.

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Im not gonna lie, but I got mad screen tearing too! Maybe it was cuz when i played the demo I was using my SDTV (My brother was watching a movie on my HDTV :x) but there was sum insane screen tearing.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Can't say I noticed screen tearing, but it did have jaggies.II_Seraphim_II

What is screen tearing floppy?

Screen tearing is this effect some games get when it looks like half way down the screen, the visuals are "torn" like a piece of paper and then they no longer match up...there is a GT5 P pic that shows screen tearing perfectly. Ah here, I found it:

You see on the right hand side next to the car, thats screen tearing.

Oh, boy you shouldn't have got a pic of GT. Anything but that. Now this thread is going to be turned into a flame war.

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#17 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

Im not gonna lie, but I got mad screen tearing too! Maybe it was cuz when i played the demo I was using my SDTV (My brother was watching a movie on my HDTV :x) but there was sum insane screen tearing.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Can't say I noticed screen tearing, but it did have jaggies.KinderChimp

What is screen tearing floppy?

Screen tearing is this effect some games get when it looks like half way down the screen, the visuals are "torn" like a piece of paper and then they no longer match up...there is a GT5 P pic that shows screen tearing perfectly. Ah here, I found it:

You see on the right hand side next to the car, thats screen tearing.

Oh, boy you shouldn't have got a pic of GT. Anything but that. Now this thread is going to be turned into a flame war.

Im sorry! I didnt know! :cry: :P

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#18 kmadon
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Im not gonna lie, but I got mad screen tearing too! Maybe it was cuz when i played the demo I was using my SDTV (My brother was watching a movie on my HDTV :x) but there was sum insane screen tearing.

II_Seraphim_II

Exactly. I was playing on an SD tv as well and it was really bad. But shouldnt it be the other way round?? ie More screen tearing and jaggies the higher the resolution??

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#19 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Man all this nit picking is pathetic :roll:

Its almost as pointless as cow's and lems arguing over "jaggies" in their boring sim racers.

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#20 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

Im not gonna lie, but I got mad screen tearing too! Maybe it was cuz when i played the demo I was using my SDTV (My brother was watching a movie on my HDTV :x) but there was sum insane screen tearing.

kmadon

Exactly. I was playing on an SD tv as well and it was really bad. But shouldnt it be the other way round?? ie More screen tearing and jaggies the higher the resolution??

yeah I dont understand it either!

Man all this nit picking is pathetic :roll:

Its almost as pointless as cow's and lems arguing over "jaggies" in their boring sim racers.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

nah, we aint nitpicking! Im serious, play the game on an SDTV...you will see sum insane screen tearing, no lies!

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#21 KinderChimp
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[QUOTE="KinderChimp"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

Im not gonna lie, but I got mad screen tearing too! Maybe it was cuz when i played the demo I was using my SDTV (My brother was watching a movie on my HDTV :x) but there was sum insane screen tearing.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Can't say I noticed screen tearing, but it did have jaggies.II_Seraphim_II

What is screen tearing floppy?

Screen tearing is this effect some games get when it looks like half way down the screen, the visuals are "torn" like a piece of paper and then they no longer match up...there is a GT5 P pic that shows screen tearing perfectly. Ah here, I found it:

You see on the right hand side next to the car, thats screen tearing.

Oh, boy you shouldn't have got a pic of GT. Anything but that. Now this thread is going to be turned into a flame war.

Im sorry! I didnt know! :cry: :P

Its too late now. The Cows should be coming any minute....now!

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#22 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="kmadon"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

Im not gonna lie, but I got mad screen tearing too! Maybe it was cuz when i played the demo I was using my SDTV (My brother was watching a movie on my HDTV :x) but there was sum insane screen tearing.

II_Seraphim_II

Exactly. I was playing on an SD tv as well and it was really bad. But shouldnt it be the other way round?? ie More screen tearing and jaggies the higher the resolution??

yeah I dont understand it either!

Man all this nit picking is pathetic :roll:

Its almost as pointless as cow's and lems arguing over "jaggies" in their boring sim racers.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

nah, we aint nitpicking! Im serious, play the game on an SDTV...you will see sum insane screen tearing, no lies!

I played it on my SDTV yesterday and I dont waste my time looking for screen tearing :wink: I was to busy having FUN :D
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#23 njean777
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How could you put that pic up up Gran Turismo that game i beautiful and i have never had any problems with it/ sarcasm

All platforms have screen tearing problems sometimes.

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#24 Truth_Hurts_U
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I have no screen tearing and I see very few jaggies.
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#25 kmadon
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="kmadon"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

Im not gonna lie, but I got mad screen tearing too! Maybe it was cuz when i played the demo I was using my SDTV (My brother was watching a movie on my HDTV :x) but there was sum insane screen tearing.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Exactly. I was playing on an SD tv as well and it was really bad. But shouldnt it be the other way round?? ie More screen tearing and jaggies the higher the resolution??

yeah I dont understand it either!

Man all this nit picking is pathetic :roll:

Its almost as pointless as cow's and lems arguing over "jaggies" in their boring sim racers.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

nah, we aint nitpicking! Im serious, play the game on an SDTV...you will see sum insane screen tearing, no lies!

I played it on my SDTV yesterday and I dont waste my time looking for screen tearing :wink: I was to busy having FUN :D

Thats the problem you see. Once you know what screen tearing is you cant miss it, how ever hard you try..lol. Its a terrible burden to bear.

Its like when some one points out at some thing in the sky and u just cant seem to notice it and when u finally do, doesnt matter how much u look away but thats all u see.. lol

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I didn't see any screen tearing in th e360 demo
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#27 sam280992
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To be honest, In games... I never notice jaggies or screen tearing, is that a bad thing?
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#28 angelkimne
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I Never got any jaggies or screen tearing.

480p ftw!

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Glad I'm not the only one that noticed. I didn't notice any until I was inside the buildings, but it is quite shocking.
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I didn't notice any screen tearing at all.
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#31 mamkem6
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There is a great chance that it will be fixed for the release version
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#32 njean777
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I played it also didnt notice any put i think you are moving and running to much to notice anything IMO
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#33 kmadon
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To be honest, In games... I never notice jaggies or screen tearing, is that a bad thing?sam280992

NOOO THATS GREAT! Dont change dont evr change! lol. Cus once you find out what they are, thast all ull ever see.. trust me on this.

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#34 markop2003
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[QUOTE="kmadon"]

Ok so I just downloaded the demo and played the game. The game has a nice look and the game play is fun.

But OMFG at the screen tearing! There was quite a bit and very distracting.

The jaggies I could deal with but in a game where the selling point/gimmick is the immersiveness of the first person view. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! I was considering buying the game but now I wont unless the devs fix the issues for the retail version.

Your thoughts?

Animal-Mother

Im not very savy on video game lingo, i know what pop ins are and stuff but what exactly is screen tearing?

i think he means what ppc gamers call shearing, it's where one part of the frame isn't dsiplayed at the same rate as another part

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#35 markop2003
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It is a demo.

There was screen tearing in BF:BC demo also but not in full game.

mamkem6

it would be aceptable in a beta but errors this big really shouldn't appear in a demo

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#36 mr_mozilla
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I dunno about Mirror's Edge, but generally speaking I find it very surprising if people don't notice screen tearing, it's worse than jaggies imo and really hard to miss. Luckily it's pretty rare, and at least on PC if it appears, turning vsync on makes it dissappear.
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#37 WasntAvailable
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In case anyone was wondering Screen tearing is the result of a low refresh rate. I noticed this aswell, it didn't bother me much, but it was definatly there. Apparently it can be fixed on PC games using something called vertical sync, where the refresh rate is synchronised with the FPS. I think it might have something to do with your TV aswell. You might be able to make it go away if you change the refresh rate. I don't really know, my knowledge just expired there :lol:.
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#38 mingo123
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i didnt notice any screen tearing
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#39 mr_mozilla
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In case anyone was wondering Screen tearing is the result of a low refresh rate. I noticed this aswell, it didn't bother me much, but it was definatly there. Apparently it can be fixed on PC games using something called vertical sync, where the refresh rate is synchronised with the FPS. I think it might have something to do with your TV aswell. You might be able to make it go away if you change the refresh rate. I don't really know, my knowledge just expired there :lol:.WasntAvailable
Yeah I think that's right. When fps is higher than refresh rate, that's when it usually becomes a problem, vsync caps your fps to your refresh rate. Might explain why people with SDTVs are experiencing it, perhaps the game runs at a higher framerate on SDTV or (some)SDTVs have lower refresh rate.
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The game is too fun to let any slight issues bother me. It was nowhere near Extreme.... now where did Mr. Bear go...

Rawr!

Oh no... Mr. Bear is trying Parkour ..

*Mr. bear takes a leap of faith and .... ... smashes into the side of a building* ...

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Screen tearing isn't a big deal to me.
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#42 Snugenz
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Screen tearing is because of a lack of V-sync, from what i can make out, with V-sync enabled frame drops are alot more severe (any framerate drop will take you from say 30 to 20fps), but without v-sync the framerate can alternate in 1s (from 30fps to 29fps for a minor framerate drop).

If i'm wrong please feel free to correct me.

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#43 Cedmln
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Am i the only one who doesn't see the screen tearing? I played the PS3 version.
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#44 stereointegrity
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a good way to see screen tearing is for u to go play Cod4 and go look at the dumpsters....
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Can't say I noticed screen tearing, but it did have jaggies.Floppy_Jim

^What Floppy_Jim said. Anyways, people make too big of a deal out of nothing, really.

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I noticed jaggied edges but I haven't seen this screen tearing...

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#47 angry_fork
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I have no idea what these whole screen tearing or jaggy things are, but I swear some people let them bother them way too much.ONLYDOD

Agreed, that kinda stuff is never noticeable to the point where it kills the experience, some people are just way too whiney about everything.

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#48 Timstuff
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Ok so I just downloaded the demo and played the game. The game has a nice look and the game play is fun.

But OMFG at the screen tearing! There was quite a bit and very distracting.

The jaggies I could deal with but in a game where the selling point/gimmick is the immersiveness of the first person view. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! I was considering buying the game but now I wont unless the devs fix the issues for the retail version.

Your thoughts?

kmadon

I agree that it was extremely annoying, especially since it's such a fun game. Have developers these days even heard of vertical syncing? Ugh.

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#49 mr_mozilla
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I'm not sure, but I'm "pretty" sure that screen tearing is dependant on your monitor/TV refresh rate, which is why some people might not see it. Just for those who think people complaining about this are crazy.
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ps3 at work again