MLB 10: The Show PS3 Officially Exclusive To the PS3 (NOT MLB 09!)

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#101 SaltyMeatballs
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I get this feeling most people don't realise this if for MLB 10: The show (unreleased /no review) and not MLB 09: The show (released / 9.0 GS).

NVIDIATI
I don't see how they would be confused (says MLB 10 in the title), but you may be right there.
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#102 Afrikanxl
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Yes! There is justice in the world. the lems might have won the battle with MLB 09 but cows finally win the war! now only if MLB 10 scores AAAE, heck even if it scores AAE that would be another AAE to chalk up for the PS3..

Kennysolidsnake

I look it at more as a thank you to Sony San Diego for doing a WONDERFUL job for a sports title... we don't have too many sports games that have been consistently good over the years or in this case GREAT...... so with this being accepted as a AAAE or AAE hopefully more gamers will be curious about this game and give it a try.....because seriously, I would HATE to think that there are some on SystemWars who never gave the PS3 version a chance, just because SystemWars had told them it is basically the PSP/PS2 version with updated graphics.....because it is more than that.

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#103 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

I get this feeling most people don't realise this if for MLB 10: The show (unreleased /no review) and not MLB 09: The show (released / 9.0 GS).

SaltyMeatballs

I don't see how they would be confused (says MLB 10 in the title), but you may be right there.

I dunno one person already admited to mistaking it with MLB 09, but w/e.

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#104 Afrikanxl
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

I get this feeling most people don't realise this if for MLB 10: The show (unreleased /no review) and not MLB 09: The show (released / 9.0 GS).

NVIDIATI

I don't see how they would be confused (says MLB 10 in the title), but you may be right there.

I dunno one person already admited to mistaking it with MLB 09, but w/e.

it doesn't matter, heck I can picture a reviewer giving it a 8.5 after reading SystemWars, just to create controversy here at systemwars and create more hits for his review :)

at the end, its the gamers who will get to enjoy it.... just like we got to enjoy our 8.5 rated Warhawk game. :D

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#105 Mario1331
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lol why does this matter is a sport game that doesnt have much of an appealing factor to many people on this forum

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#106 Afrikanxl
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lol why does this matter is a sport game that doesnt have much of an appealing factor to many people on this forum

Mario1331

well it mattered to me because I felt it was disrespectful to the developers of the game that put ALOT of effort most other devs don't for their sports games...

but saying it is just like the PS2 version is kind of wrong.....Sony San Diego devs are constantly in communication with us gamers at Operation Sports forums...trying to give us what we ask for.....even though they are on top and can just sit on their butts and released just updated rosters...

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#107 789shadow
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This discussion will never end, will it?

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#108 NVIDIATI
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lol why does this matter is a sport game that doesnt have much of an appealing factor to many people on this forum

Mario1331
So? because it lacks appeal it becomes invalid :?
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#109 NVIDIATI
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This discussion will never end, will it?

789shadow

It will end with this thread. (I hope :P)

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#110 DanteSuikoden
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And the PS3 gets another AAAE with Dragon Age. See how that works? Better not go in there :PRedruM_I

then fallout for 360 (i believe?)

EDIT- yup:P

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#111 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

This discussion will never end, will it?

NVIDIATI

It will end with this thread. (I hope :P)

Um, no. This discussion ended last year.

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I am open to the idea. However, I don't think you can just list a series of differences without actually discussing the importance/relevance of the differences. More than half of what I see is irrelevant because they amount to only graphical/cosmetic changes. What matters is gameplay. Is it essentially the same game, or are there really significant differences to the gameplay? IMO, there are only 4-5 points below that are actually relevant.

MLB 10 The Show

Real-Time Presentations (PS3)– MLB 10 The Show has boosted the number of overall animations by capturing more than 1,250 new gameplay animations, more than 1,000 new presentation animations, and more than 400 personalized pitcher and batter animations. To accompany this upgraded experience, The Show introduces a new broadcast camera for fielding that will make you feel like you're watching a live telecast.

The animations are irrelevant as they amount to graphics/cosmetic. The relevant portion could be the camera. If the camera is used in gameplay then it is relevant. If it is only a passive camera for animations/replay or whatever, then it doesn't matter.

Multiplayer:

Full Online Season Leagues (PS3)– Along with improvements to the traditional online leagues, MLB 10 The Show will offer fully functional online season leagues! The new online season leagues will save and display MLB Player stats, track player energy, allow for trades/injuries, and offer 40-man roster functionality.

Don't know how much of this is really new/different. What are the real differences between traditional online leagues and these fully functional online season leagues?

1-30 Player Season Modes (PS3) – Because roster control is an integral part of Franchise Mode, giving the user the ability to control one or all 30 teams is now essential to the mode. To do this, the user has the option to select how many teams (or all teams) they wish to control right from the start of their franchise or season.

See above.

Online Gameplay Improvements (PS3)– This year, the online gameplay experience has been improved a great deal as the game will detect and respond better to adverse network conditions along with reduced bandwidth to help the speed and flow of online gameplay.

Meaningless.

Road to The Show Version 4.0 (PS3)– Road to The Show (RTTS) 4.0 features the additions of two new option settings; RTTS Game Watch and RTTS Game Completion, that allow users to set how much of the game they wish to view. With settings of All Pitches, All Fielding, Result Play, and Off, user's will have the choice to view every pitch of the entire game, or trim the viewing down to just the result pitch. Users will now start their career in AA and will have to earn their spot in Spring Training. In order to enforce good fundamental baseball, two new systems have been implemented. The first is a mistake tracking system that will keep tabs on how users play the game and will penalize for throwing to the wrong base, not covering the right base for the out, etc. The second feature is a new Green Light system that has been implemented to reward good base stealing and penalize those that shouldn't be stealing. If a user continues to steal once the green light has been revoked, their playing time will diminish. Once revoked, users will have to improve their speed and base running ability in order to regain the green light. Finally, there is a new stat tracking system that keeps stats for your player's career versus every pitcher or batter faced during the current season that can be accessed at any time.

This is a tough one. The first half is just the potential not to see something. Deleted content :) And it isn't clear to me that the other features aren't in the other versions. RTTS isn't new per se, it is just an upgrade. If the latter half are true gameplay differences between versions then it could be meaningful.

New Fielding and Pitching Training Modes/Practice Drills (PS3)– In MLB 10 The Show users will have the ability to choose from two new interactive training/practice modes. The additions of pitching and fielding training sessions round out the Road to The Show training suite. Fielding training will consist of two types of training –focus on the user's throwing with the new throw meter and focus on a combination of throwing and decision-making. Pitching training will have two options—Knockout and Simulated Game, both focusing on control and accuracy, with goals provided for each session. These training modes will extend to practice modes for both fielding and pitching and are a perfect way to polish and improve your baseball skills in The Show!

A couple of minor additional training modes/drills that aren't in gameplay. Hmmm.

All-Star Break (includes Home Run Derby® and MLB® All-Star Futures Game™ ) (PS3)– The long-awaited return of Home Run Derby will take place in MLB 10 The Show for PS3. Fully implemented in our season modes and available as a stand-alone mode, Home Run Derby follows the MLB rules and flow. The MLB® All-Star Futures Game™ will also be available within season modes in its correct timeframe (just before the HR Derby). See if your Road to The Show player is invited to either the Home Run Derby or the Futures Game! (Note: Home Run Derby is a feature of the PSP game)

In the PSP version.

New Stadiums (PS3) – MLB 10 The Show will offer 11 new stadiums. In addition to all current MLB stadiums, five new Minor League venues are available, as well as clas sic parks now be available on the PS3 for the first time. The clas sic stadiums include Forbes Field, Crosley Field, Polo Grounds, Shibe Park, Sportsman Park, and Griffith Stadium.

I believe the clas sic parks have been on previous versions in the past. This is just the first time on a PS3 version. Not sure this is a real difference as all the true new stadiums may be in each version. Have to see.

Gameplay differences:

Catcher Calling the Game (PS3) – The catcher will play a bigger role in season modes, Road to The Show, and exhibition games. The catcher will give a sequence of signs and users will have the ability to change their indicator. Specifically for Road to The Show, the feature will allow a catcher to calling the game. This feature will give a new level of control to the catcher where he will have responsibility to select pitches and position himself to block balls that are in the dirt or wild.

This could be very important. I might agree on exclusive on the basis of only this, depending on how important it really is. Anyway, it is a real gameplay difference and gameplay is what matters, not graphics or other fluff.

User Controlled Pick-offs (PS3)– Want to surprise a base runner with a quick move or lull him to sleep? The new pickoff mechanism will now allow users to choose from a quick, casual, or deceptive pick-off type. In exhibition, season, and Road to The Show modes, you have the ability to decide which move you want to make as a pitcher. As a base runner in Road to The Show you now have to pick up on the pitcher's move or get thrown out leaning!

There is a pickoff mechanism. This is supposed to be new. How much different is hard to say and how relevant to the overall experience also hard to say. But it is gameplay, so it is at least somewhat meaningful.

Other:

Stadium Realism and Experience (PS3) – As the leading MLB experience, MLB 10 The Show takes pride in the details offering daytime transitional lighting, similar to our day to night transitional lighting. Notice the sun position and length of shadows as the 1:00pm first pitch reaches the afternoon. All players on field will be shown in real-time; this goes for dugout and bullpen players. Not to be outdone, stadium ambiance will be improved with the addition of HR/splash counters, fireworks, steam, noisemakers, towels, thunder sticks, working digital and analog clocks, crowd reaching over the rails, and crowd detail, such as interaction with vendors and placing K signs.

Irrelevant graphics and whatnot.

Movie Maker (PS3)– Newly added is the Movie Maker menu within the Pause Menu. This will give the user the ability to select up to ten replays to add to a single movie and do all their editing from this menu. The user will now be able to start recording their movie on a newly created timeline and then pause their movie, choosing different camera angles of their plays.

Irrelevant has nothing to do with gameplay.

Replays to Hard Drive via Replay Vault (PS3) – Store highlight reel replays to your PS3 hard drive as a movie file, and enjoy the ability to playback clips at your leisure.Additionally, players can access an "end of game" replay to see the most exciting and important plays of the game.

Also irrelevant

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#113 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

This discussion will never end, will it?

It will end with this thread. (I hope :P)

Um, no. This discussion ended last year.

This is for MLB 10, not MLB 09...
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#114 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] It will end with this thread. (I hope :P)

NVIDIATI

Um, no. This discussion ended last year.

This is for MLB 10, not MLB 09...

It is? Crappers!

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#115 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="Phazevariance"]

The PS3 version of the title is too different form the PS2 and PSP versions so its exclusive to the PS3 much like GRAW is to the 360 (just look at the post above :( )NVIDIATI
Sorry but no, considering how mAss Effect 1 had an all new menu system for item management, would you consider that a PC exclusive and 360 exclusive? Nope, and SW agrees on that, so MLB is still multiplat, sorry. Also, its the same game engine. Unlike Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma which is a completely different game engine... not the case for MLB

So you think that PSP version and PS3 version of MLB use the same engine? Wow.

PS2 and PS3 versions are.
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#116 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

Um, no. This discussion ended last year.

This is for MLB 10, not MLB 09...

It is? Crappers!

Yeah...lol
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#117 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] This is for MLB 10, not MLB 09...NVIDIATI

It is? Crappers!

Yeah...lol

lulz...I'm sick of going back to MLB 09 all the time.

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#118 Afrikanxl
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[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="Phazevariance"] Sorry but no, considering how mAss Effect 1 had an all new menu system for item management, would you consider that a PC exclusive and 360 exclusive? Nope, and SW agrees on that, so MLB is still multiplat, sorry. Also, its the same game engine. Unlike Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma which is a completely different game engine... not the case for MLB

Phazevariance

So you think that PSP version and PS3 version of MLB use the same engine? Wow.

PS2 and PS3 versions are.

just like Call of Duty MW2 and the Quake engine right?

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#119 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="sayonara89"] So you think that PSP version and PS3 version of MLB use the same engine? Wow.Afrikanxl

PS2 and PS3 versions are.

just like Call of Duty MW2 and the Quake engine right?

You're better off not arguing with him.
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#120 FIipMode
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I honestly never thought this debate would end lol.
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#121 NVIDIATI
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I honestly never thought this debate would end lol.FIipMode
Yeah it went for a good few weeks.
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#122 drakecool1
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Sad for SW.

Just shows how many Cows there are here, where they brought up this topic enough times to make a mod give up :| +1toPS3fanboys

It just further highlights the stupidity of SW, when people argue over these differences for so long and a games like NG2/Sigma2 are not considered exclusive - just like that. I am speechless. Of course we know why the fanboys don't bicker over NG2/Sigma2: because it wouldn't make a difference between the platforms - not anymore anyway. When it first came out I guess it meant 360 lost an exclusive +1toPS3fanboys.

http://virtuozius.ru/images/stories/NinjaGaiden2_box.jpghttp://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Ninja_Gaiden_Sigma_2(1).jpg

We should keep it consistant and not give leeway to fanboys.

A game like ME1 also won't be considered exclusive, despite the differences between the 2 platforms. +1toPS3fanboys

http://gamersdigart.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/mass-effect-box-art.jpghttp://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/03/mass_effect_pc_drm.jpg

To summarise:
ME1 - not exclusive
NG2/Sigma 2 - not exclusive
MLB 10 - somehow exclusive

What's the difference? One is Sony exclusive.

What's the similarity? All benefit PS3 fanboys on SW.

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SaltyMeatballs

well make a LIST OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE PC AND 360 VERSION AND SHOW IT TO THE MOD.

but it's unlikely going to pass as the pc and 360 versions are the same unlike mlb

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#123 DonPerian
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Honestly, do you guys not grasp the concept of comparison? It's possible and is factual that a certain game can be exclusive in some aspects and multiplatform in others. Take MLB The Show for example. It's a multiplatform (multiple consoles) franchise but is exclusive to a certain company's (Sony) systems. Both of these statements are fact. Neither are stretched, altered, spun, or exaggerated. Interpret it however you might but it won't change that simple fact. Another example. Mass Effect 2 is exclusive to the 360 when comparing Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. Yet, Mass Effect 2 is a multiplatform title.
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#124 shinrabanshou
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I am open to the idea. However, I don't think you can just list a series of differences without actually discussing the importance/relevance of the differences. More than half of what I see is irrelevant because they amount to only graphical/cosmetic changes. What matters is gameplay. Is it essentially the same game, or are there really significant differences to the gameplay? IMO, there are only 4-5 points below that are actually relevant.

SUD123456

I would probably agree that the points of reasonable significance are largely the expanded online experience, upgraded RTTS system as a whole, the pitching and fielding drills - that would form part of the "campaign" of RTTS, the All Star Futures Game (which I don't believe is on the PSP) as part of the "campaign," the pick-off system upgrade, the stadiums "maps" (these aren't available for the PS2/PSP as far as I'm aware) and, in particular, the addition of the catcher mode.

The other things are more additions, in the same way that mitu mentions music.

I should add that even with that list, imo, it may still be precipitous to form any concrete conclusion prior to the game release, but my personal opinion is that while MLB09 PS3 doesn't quite differentiate itself enough, this upcoming game has.

Essentially it seems almost every new feature that delineates this installment, besides roster changes, from the previous installment, has only been implemented in the PS3 version. Those features are enough to delineate MLB 10 from MLB 09 and are predominantly only implemented in MLB 10 PS3, so I would think logically those features would suffice to delineate MLB 10 PS3 from MLB 10 PSP/PS2.

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#125 Rockman999
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

People are only fighting this so PS3 gets an AAA. Honestly, who would fight over a baseball game?

Kashiwaba

and whats wrong with baseball game Baseball is the best sport in the world and I'm not American :D.

As a matter of fact it would be unamerican to dislike baseball :).
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#126 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

People are only fighting this so PS3 gets an AAA. Honestly, who would fight over a baseball game?

Rockman999

and whats wrong with baseball game Baseball is the best sport in the world and I'm not American :D.

As a matter of fact it would be unamerican to dislike baseball :).

Baseball is America's favorite passtime :P

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#127 drakecool1
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[QUOTE="Rockman999"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

and whats wrong with baseball game Baseball is the best sport in the world and I'm not American :D.

NVIDIATI

As a matter of fact it would be unamerican to dislike baseball :).

Baseball is America's favorite passtime :P

historically speaking it was one of the few things actually invented by Americans, that and the famous americans own apple pie.

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#128 Not-A-Stalker
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

People are only fighting this so PS3 gets an AAA. Honestly, who would fight over a baseball game?

lawlessx

and whats wrong with baseball game Baseball is the best sport in the world and I'm not American :D.

FACT: nobody gave a damm about the series around here until the last one got an 9 on here. cows will want to deny this,but it's the truth.

I care... :( MLB 06 The Show was probably the best sports game I ever played.
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#129 deathtarget04
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Yes! There is justice in the world. the lems might have won the battle with MLB 09 but cows finally win the war! now only if MLB 10 scores AAAE, heck even if it scores AAE that would be another AAE to chalk up for the PS3..

Kennysolidsnake

You take this **** way too seriously... I bet you wont even play the game. You only care about the exclusivity...

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#130 mitu123
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Cows can have it, there are tons of things to make this different from the other versions, and that's more than enough for me.

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#131 kittyloaf69
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Wow, a SW issue solved with a well-thought out argument. I am impressed. Now hopefully people will shut the **** up about it.

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Seconded.
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If you're really getting a significantly different experience on the PS3, then I approve. I look forward to this game getting a lower score than MLB 09. Should be some decent lulz.
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#133 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="bez2083"]

Wow, a SW issue solved with a well-thought out argument. I am impressed. Now hopefully people will shut the love up about it.

kittyloaf69
Seconded.

Thirded
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#134 Giancar
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*yawns at sport games* but tbqh I'm on the fence right now, and probably ever will cause I'm not buying or playing the game :P
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#135 angelkimne
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If MLB's going to be counted as exclusive, then surely Dead Rising has to be as well, considering the differences are much larger....
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#136 II_Seraphim_II
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Wow, a SW issue solved with a well-thought out argument. I am impressed. Now hopefully people will shut the **** up about it.

bez2083
I think this is a trick thread :P
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#137 Sollet
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Well since it's offical and approved, why are people arguing against it :P? It aint gonna change.
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#138 SonyIsh6Fotta
Member since 2007 • 658 Posts

Wow fellow Cows went hard for this one lol, I blame the Lems for the years of "you have no games bashing" :P, could'nt let a possible AAAE get away like last year. I personally do not care being as I'm not really into baseball at all, but to each his own.