More and more people are leaving console for PC

It's a fact that more and more people are moving to PC via data from Steam, Origin, GoG, and yearly gaming hardware/software charts. No matter how much you troll lie.

It's no mystery, as it is the best place to game.

But moving to PC doesn't always mean moving away from your previous system.

Its likely because video games are basically the only product keeping sony afloat. Everything else they have is eh.

Except the problem is you can complain about much of that all you want, but you have to do almost all of that crap on the console, too. Game updates: Check. System updates: Check(and they usually take longer, AND you can't do anything while it updates).

Not sure why you listed playing with keyboard and mouse, almost every single game is controller compatible on PC now.

Ps4 is selling at a faster raster rate than Ps2 last I heard. Safe to say that video games in general are growing

Just like every year PC gaming is suppose to be dying.

Sourcing Wikipedia? Really?

He's just a delusional cow hating on the X1 even though the games shared with PS4 run almost identical to each other yet the X1 is unplayable. He's having a moment of head up Sony's ass. Cows seem to have those frequently.

Ill probably be switching to PC and NX to be honest

good choice

With how consoles have become more like PC's and no longer offer a traditional plug-n-play experience, it doesn't surprise me. People realize that PC gaming isn't hard and complicated and offers far more variety of high quality games.

exactly. Consoles have lost their simplicity and plug, n play benefit over PC. Anything (except splitscreen) you can do on a console, you can do on a PC aswell and in many cases better

@mcpanties: Coolyfett would never game on a PC. Never! Good for Steam for doing well and all. As much as Coolyfett loves video games and the industry as a whole. The mobile and PC gaming aspect is the least bit interesting. Why Coolyfett would never move to PC

1 Coolyfett doesn't understand the infrastructure

2. The investment is much higher than a Nintendo or PlayStation option

3. Coolyfett doesn't want to build or replace components on a PC

4. No universal gaming controls

5. All of Coolyfett's friends are on PlayStation or Nintendo

6. Coolyfett's established gaming resume with Trophies and Points/Coins doesn't transfer over

7. PC gamer image. They all seem really nerdy basement dweller types. A stereotype not really applied to PlayStation or Xbox users. Nintendo users have a stereotype as well, but nothing makes the gaming community look worst than how most of the PC users look and act. Sorry.

8 Coolyfett does not want to build his own console. (Unless it plays Nintendo and PlayStation games) Coolyfett just wants to buy a ready made console (PS3 WiiU), buy the game and just play. No tweaking, no adjusting just buy and play.

Sorry if Coolyfett offended anyone, that wasn't his intention, it's just Coolyfett has been gaming for some time and his bigotry and prejudice toward PC players is hard to suppress mainly because of the ideals of these thread on other users like the OP. Peace

That was a funny comment. Made me giggle a little but i do need to correct you.

1. Coolyfett doesn't need understand the infrastructure. Just click the game icon and you're good to go.

2. Coolyfett doesn't need to invest much. A 500$ PC is twice as fast as a console and you don't need to pay for multiplayer

3. Coolyfett doesn't need to build a PC. Coolyfett can just buy a prebuilt PC

4. Coolyfett can pretty much plug in any controller he wants to and it will work on the PC

5. Coolyfett needs some new friends that games on PC instead

6. Coolyfett doesn't need trophies. Steam achivements are way better for Coolyfett.

7. Coolyfett doesn't need to worry about an imagine. If coolyfett played on a PC, he would know that he will get a better experience. Coolyfett should know that a beast like Terry crews just joined the master race

8. Coolyfett doesn't know that there is a program called Geforce Experience that will optimize all the games for Coolyfett

I used to swear I wouldn't get a gaming PC , then this gen happened . After tons of remakes of games most people played, dlc on disc locked behind paywall and games that don't take risks anymore I gave up. I bought a beast of a gaming rig a month ago and I love it I was so wrong about PC. I was a massive steel battalion fan and Mechwarrior online is quite similar, graphics are top notch and gameplay is smooth as butter. No man's sky looks really good compared to console version but I admit it didn't work well at first but it's perfect now. Think I'm going to grab Deus ex for it. Wish I would have took the plunge years ago , I still love my consoles and always will for their exclusives and couch gaming but PC is my go to first choice now. Definitely worth getting if you consider yourself a dedicated gamer who wants the best

Ubisoft's financials...

EA and Activision mirrors this result (watch the youtube video).

Well consoles are playing AAAAE exclusives as per GS which PC has never gotten or a recent excluive GOTY as per GS in the last decade+

If you are a true gamer and you have the money i dont see why you wouldn't have a pc.

I did one better and got a Vive and VorpX. For the games where I can hack the FOV and increase it enough, it makes those older games sooo much more immersive.

Unless statistical management games, the sports genre is intrinsically suited to consoles. Very much a straw man argument

And really, in the face of reality, not the sort of argument to put forward when defending such illicit activities -

• Dues Ex is a cherished and loved pc game generally regarded as one of the best ever made

- It is now a console franchise

• Dragon Age was hyped as the renascence of CRPG's, build with pc's mind

- Console version sold more, became a console focused franchise

• Doom, which practically invented FPS is cherished as the godfather of FPS and an all time pc great

- Now a console franchise

• Crysis the benchmark and hallmark of cutting edge pc gaming

- Abandoned platform, now a console franchise

The list is very much boundless and directly related to sales. Reality may be distorted, but it never ceases to exist.

Why do you insist on labelling games PC or console?? All the games should not be exclusive. That would solve 99% of the arguments on this site.

Saying that, I don't think you will find as many salty PC players as salty PS3 players right now.

Check it out:

- UC 1-3 , beloved console franchise now moved to PC.

- TLoU, long spoken as never coming to PC, now on PC.

One last dig, doom, how do you argue that doom is a console franchise??? But meh, enjoy, games deserve to be open platform :D

While this is a very admirable, altruistic viewpoint, depending on the genre and technology involved a pc game designed with consoles a forefront can, and has had extreme ramifications.

The truth is though, while pc gamers blame console gamers with a feigned sense of superiority, or blame console themselves, money is all Publishers care about. Pc does not provide money and piracy is a factor in that many of the platform pathetically attempt to romanticize to justify the unjustifiable.

Overall, while very sad to see games like Crysis lobotomized, it's equally understandable why so many have abandoned the platform.

Obviously only anecdotal but i have seen more people than ever asking for help building their first PC or people researching the platform before they make the jump, far more than ever before, there definetly is some truth to it but as to how many people that would be, who knows.

I think the sad thing is that not everybody is as diplomatic and open minded as you, you gave it a shot and it worked out for you, there are many others that will just continue to hate on it or dismiss it even if it is just what they want /need as a gamer just so they can continue to worship that little plastic box from their favourite corporation, being a fanboy takes precedent over choices, options and great consumer practices god forbid anyone show them otherwise

Thank god for console gamers like you i say, willing to try something new/different and adjust your opinion accordingly :P

LOL, great response made me laugh, and all true :D

I'm definitely glad I bought one best gaming purchase I've made since ps2 came out that's how fresh it feels. Mine is pretty powerful and games look and play like a dream . I just discovered my ps3 headset works on it too which is great I barely used it , bought just before ps4 came out and assumed it would work on it but it didn't.

Okay, cool lets work with these reasons exclusively.

- PC < Money than consoles
- Piracy is some factor when determining whether to make the game on PC

I think many of us can quite openly admit that PC sales can be less than console sales, especially on many multiplatform games. Console has a very distinct high initial sales volume and PC lags behind that with a slower (not always higher in the end) number of sales over a long time-frame. There is however money to be made, obviously, or they just wouldn't make the games for PC at all. Perhaps PC suffers from an over saturation of specific genre's and "Me To" type games??

Piracy is a hard factor to account for, it has some impact that's for sure, but my personal belief is that it's not so large as to drive entire companies out of the system. As vocal as Crytek where, they still release PC games.

You can even do split screen on some games, like Rocket League and Black Ops 3 on PC, for instance.

1. Mobile took a large chunk of the gaming pie. No such market existed during the PS2 era, c'mon son.

2. Steam is growing because free store-front/online services that offer super dirt cheap deals are enticing to bargain hunting casual players that only throw a few bucks every now and again

I see no evidence that PC gaming's capability of sustaining its own ecosystem of AAA development is growing all that much, so those numbers are not really translating into anything that supports the argument that consoles are being replaced with equal or better PCs

Wither it actually is piracy is irrelevant, Publishers think it is and act accordingly. When looking at the stats, not surprising.

Very odd mentality of "us" against "The man". When in fact "The man" has sunk millions of dollars, and quite rightly, acts on the threat.

Certainty Crytek still released Crysis, and did so with technical features above the console.

It was however, still clearly built with the Xbox360 specifically in mind.

Well yeah, but it was also quite clearly built with PC also in mind. Haveinga console inspired control scheme doesn't really mean to much as both systems can use these controls. Limiting the console edition for the console hardware, fair enough, they can't run the higher settings. The PC still had a lot of extra quality built in. I agree with Xbox360 in mind, but not necessarily specifically.

If anything you would call this a multi-plat release. If it was released for only 1 system, you could argue that it would be better than the multi-plat version released. But having resources split across more than 1 system drops the quality of both (I assume anyway).

See I don't think there are many, if any, publishers that think PC = Piracy don't release on PC. Otherwise there would be bugger all PC releases, as it is there are thousands a year. I really think that lower PC sales is the result of a broader number of releases in a year as opposed to console much fewer.

If people have the choice of 10 great games in a year, you would probably find that the numbers are split between them somewhat evenly. And aside from those that can afford to buy all of them, not every game is going to be picked up by everyone.

But if people have a choice of 3 great games in a year, you would also suspect that their would be a much higher number of sales of these 3 games and it is likely that many people would buy all 3.

Why uncracked Warhammer Total War https://steamspy.com/app/364360 doesnt sell MILLIONS?

Rome 2 had millions of torrent downloads

The franchise has been pirated to hell and back

Denuvo comes and sales dont skyrocket why?

Oh and FPS used to be a PC genre due to mouse and keyboard

Strategy too why it hasnt jumped to consoles?

What excuse will you failed trolling find in this new age of Denuvo and no piracy?

You can kinda just tell that PC is rapidly gaining in popularity by the fact that youtube/streaming is heavily focused on the PC side of gaming, esports are heavily dominant on the PC side, Steam is gaining new accounts faster than all the consoles are selling, and the PC simply just gets development support that dwarfs all the consoles combined.

It helps that this console generation has been shit.

@True_Gamer_:

For EA's Digital Net Revenue, the game console segment beats "PC & Other". Most EA games are multi-platform and combined consoles(PS, Xbox, AMD powered boxes) are beating PC(single platform, Wintel) .

Mostly only in the 3rd quarter which takes into account all the parents that buy games for their kids in the holiday season, which is a heck of a lot really as most parents of 5-18 yr old ask for at least 1 game for xmas and obviously parents just buy consoles for them.

lol EA.

It typically is better to build your own desktop PC because it might save you upwards of half the cost of buying a gaming laptop, and it'll be a better overall package, but if you need a laptop then go for it. However, if you have the option to get a full-fledged gaming desktop PC, you can use the money you save on a less powerful laptop for school/travel/whatever.

My only advise is to also buy a nice keyboard and mouse to plug into the laptop for when you want to game. Laptop keyboards are just really bad for gaming. You want a nice, full-sized keyboard layout with lovely, deep-set keys. Something with some meat. And obviously a mouse is needed because you can't really use a laptop track pad for gaming.

@True_Gamer_ said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@True_Gamer_ said:

@uninspiredcup said:

Bad news for Publishers as most pc gamers don't actually buy games unless forced.

Which is wrong.

Thats why THE UNCRACKED FIFA 16 sold 10 million copies!!

100% of the 10 mil torrenters rushed out and bought the game!!

Oh wait...

Unless statistical management games, the sports genre is intrinsically suited to consoles. Very much a straw man argument

And really, in the face of reality, not the sort of argument to put forward when defending such illicit activities -

• Dues Ex is a cherished and loved pc game generally regarded as one of the best ever made

- It is now a console franchise

• Dragon Age was hyped as the renascence of CRPG's, build with pc's mind

- Console version sold more, became a console focused franchise

• Doom, which practically invented FPS is cherished as the godfather of FPS and an all time pc great

- Now a console franchise

• Crysis the benchmark and hallmark of cutting edge pc gaming

- Abandoned platform, now a console franchise

The list is very much boundless and directly related to sales. Reality may be distorted, but it never ceases to exist.

Why uncracked Warhammer Total War https://steamspy.com/app/364360 doesnt sell MILLIONS?

Rome 2 had millions of torrent downloads

The franchise has been pirated to hell and back

Denuvo comes and sales dont skyrocket why?

Oh and FPS used to be a PC genre due to mouse and keyboard

Strategy too why it hasnt jumped to consoles?

What excuse will you failed trolling find in this new age of Denuvo and no piracy?

Pc gaming is hard.

@nathanbats: You can use the DS4 on PC, you can even use a Sega Genesis or SNES controller on PC if you want, so that's just another lame excuse.

@ronvalencia said:

@True_Gamer_:

For EA's Digital Net Revenue, the game console segment beats "PC & Other". Most EA games are multi-platform and combined consoles(PS, Xbox, AMD powered boxes) are beating PC(single platform, Wintel) .

Buh buh buh teh piratez!!!

Denuvo makes FIFA uncrackable and sales DROP!!! HAHAHAHAHHA!

@shawty_beatz: yeah, I have heard what Sony are releasing allowing us to play on PC with the d4 and that's good so I can play the PC exclusives I want.

No offence, but console gamers are mostly 12 year old boys that scream at their mike all day long while they play shitty games like halo and cod.

http://ds4windows.com/

You've been able to use ds4 on PC pretty much since the launch of ps4...

@True_Gamer_ said:

@ronvalencia said:

@True_Gamer_:

For EA's Digital Net Revenue, the game console segment beats "PC & Other". Most EA games are multi-platform and combined consoles(PS, Xbox, AMD powered boxes) are beating PC(single platform, Wintel) .

Buh buh buh teh piratez!!!

Denuvo makes FIFA uncrackable and sales DROP!!! HAHAHAHAHHA!

Wintel PC is the largest single platform, but it can't take on both Xbox and PlayStation at the same time.

Both Wintel PC and Xbox are Microsoft platforms.

@howmakewood: I.have.been.an.idiot

“Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.” -Aaron Levenstein

On PC you make twice the money per sale, until you drop the price.
The companies making more money on consoles mainly make console games.
And even if companies make less money on PC gaming, it does not matter to the consumer. There are many more games on PC. There is more competition. The market there is thriving, but cutthroat.

Read this you console warriors:

As House explained, Sony decided to create the PS4 Neo in order to keep people from moving towards high-end PCs before the generation is over, and they also wanted to give 4K TV owners something to use while the content catches up:

We’ve traditionally seen that some of the core audience tends to gravitate back to high-end PCs at some point because these are the people who want the finest graphical performance. So here’s a great opportunity to have them stay within our ecosystem.

Read more at http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/06/15/sony-hopes-new-ps4-neo-can-keep-gamers-from-going-back-to-high-end-pcs/#UIOP5kYy62I1lp1y.99