More bad news for GTA:Chinatown wars

http://kotaku.com/5259924/grand-theft-auto-chinatown-wars-second-month-sales-drop-in-npd+pds

This is going from bad-to worse.GTA:Chinatown Wars sales dropped by about 15,000 unites from last month. Why won't this game sell well:(

Im buying it this weekend. Only problem is I dont have a DS..

http://kotaku.com/5259924/grand-theft-auto-chinatown-wars-second-month-sales-drop-in-npd+pds

This is going from bad-to worse.GTA:Chinatown Wars sales dropped by about 15,000 unites from last month. Why won't this game sell well:(

clubsammich91

damn shame, this game almost convinced me to get a DS, but i never went through with it. If it was ported to psp i would get it day one, damn shame that will never happen.

Looks like R* won't be making anymore GTAs for the DS.

http://kotaku.com/5259924/grand-theft-auto-chinatown-wars-second-month-sales-drop-in-npd+pds

This is going from bad-to worse.GTA:Chinatown Wars sales dropped by about 15,000 unites from last month. Why won't this game sell well:(

clubsammich91

http://kotaku.com/5259924/grand-theft-auto-chinatown-wars-second-month-sales-drop-in-npd+pds

This is going from bad-to worse.GTA:Chinatown Wars sales dropped by about 15,000 unites from last month. Why won't this game sell well:(

clubsammich91

Looks like R* won't be making anymore GTAs for the DS.

Lionheart08

Thats what I was thinking

It was worth a try though

Looks like R* won't be making anymore GTAs for the DS.

Lionheart08

so did you read the part where analysts say if it doesn't sell over 40k in April it will have flopped and will show bad signs for future sales? And then read it surpassed 40k by 34k? It sold 74k in April bringing it to a total of near 500k worldwide.that isn't bad at all. no one should expect GTAIV numbers for this game, its great too

its selling, it will keep selling

so did you read the part where analysts say if it doesn't sell over 40k in April it will have flopped and will show bad signs for future sales? And then read it surpassed 40k by 34k? It sold 74k in April bringing it to a total of near 500k worldwide.that isn't bad at all. no one should expect GTAIV numbers for this game, its great too

its selling, it will keep selling

Sucks.
This is my 2nd favorite GTA game.

[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Looks like R* won't be making anymore GTAs for the DS.

Bigboi500

Thats what I was thinking

It was worth a try though

Edit: vgchartz says first GTA psp sold 5 million, second sold 3 million

so a game that has sold 450,000 copies in only 8 weeks and still selling around 30k to 40k worldwide weekly is a flop lol i don't understand you people

so a game that has sold 450,000 copies in only 8 weeks and still selling around 30k to 40k worldwide weekly is a flop lol i don't understand you people

sherlock99

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

Thats what I was thinking

It was worth a try though

munu9

Edit: vgchartz says first GTA psp sold 5 million, second sold 3 million

More proof game sales aren't based off quality, but on publicity and casual appeal. munu9

It is like the biblical saying of throwing pearls before pigs, as pigs would not appreciate the value of something precious like pearls. Most people in the world would care little about what some of us think as "quality" video games, as their standards of "quality' differs from us. As sales does not equal quality, the reverse can also be the same.

Even though Chinatown Wars has good reviews does not compell me to purchase it, as games of its kind do not appeal to my tastes. I do not buy games because they are "critically acclaimed" or win awards, but if they appeal to me.

[QUOTE="sherlock99"]

so a game that has sold 450,000 copies in only 8 weeks and still selling around 30k to 40k worldwide weekly is a flop lol i don't understand you people

munu9

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=897®ion=All

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24661

There seems to be only 1 explanation. The majority of GTA fans are the biggest graphic whores on earth and will pass on a given opportunity to play the best GTA by far since Vice City all because the graphics arent up to snuff.

guys its selling nearly at the same rate the second GTA on PSP sold

[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="sherlock99"]

so a game that has sold 450,000 copies in only 8 weeks and still selling around 30k to 40k worldwide weekly is a flop lol i don't understand you people

sherlock99

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=897®ion=All

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24661

[QUOTE="sherlock99"]

Really, with the DS? With the GTA title? Saying a million seller is a sales flop is one thing but selling under 500k on the DS with something as major as GTA is VERY unimpressive munu9

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=897®ion=All

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24661

Looks like R* won't be making anymore GTAs for the DS.

Lionheart08

[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Looks like R* won't be making anymore GTAs for the DS.

Bigboi500

Thats what I was thinking

It was worth a try though

Well at least I can say the 'bad', but still alright sales are not because of me since I brought a copy, but still I don't see any more GTA's on DS or probably Nintendo consoles anytime soon.

http://kotaku.com/5259924/grand-theft-auto-chinatown-wars-second-month-sales-drop-in-npd+pds

This is going from bad-to worse.GTA:Chinatown Wars sales dropped by about 15,000 unites from last month. Why won't this game sell well:(

It's a shame to see it sell so little. I guess R* will just stick to the PSP for future handheld GTA games.

How do people really ignore one of the best games of 2009 so far at such a reasonable price compared to console games?

The reason it didn't sell well is that same reason Mad World didn't sell well on the Wii...it's the DEMOGRAPH.

Devs need to realize who the vast majority of DS and Wii owners are, or rather who they're not. They are for the most part NOT hardcore gamers. It doesn't matter how good the game is as we all know that Chinatown Wars got amazing reviews. It's simply not the type of game that most DS owners buy.

The reason it didn't sell well is that same reason Mad World didn't sell well on the Wii...it's the DEMOGRAPH.

Devs need to realize who the vast majority of DS and Wii owners are, or rather who they're not. They are for the most part NOT hardcore gamers. It doesn't matter how good the game is as we all know that Chinatown Wars got amazing reviews. It's simply not the type of game that most DS owners buy.

mztazmz

true this, people who bought GTA CW are 18 & above, while look at the owners of DS & Wii, they were meant to target casual gamers, younger people buy it mostly so this game cant sell that well...

guys its selling nearly at the same rate the second GTA on PSP sold

darth-pyschosis

A little less, yeah.

http://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Grand+Theft+Auto%3A+Chinatown+Wars+-+DS®2=All&game2=Grand+Theft+Auto%3A+Liberty+City+Stories+-+PSP®3=All&game3=Grand+Theft+Auto%3A+Vice+City+Stories+-+PSP&weeks=8&weekly=1

(Sorry, GS won't let me link)

The problem is that CW had a drastic drop in the last two weeks, something VCS hadn't.

Nonetheless, if we consider a lot of DS games have showed constant sales for quite a long time, this news aren't that bad.

The question isn't whether this game will make it's money back because it obviously will. If it keeps selling 60-80K every month it will eventually sell enough.

The question is if any other third party dev will make an M rated DS game. If GTA barely makes money what chance would they have with a new M rated IP on the system?

I'm not saying another M rated game won't be released on the DS and that it won't sell. I'm only saying that devs looks at the GTA:CW numbers in a very cynical way.

ninty just doesn't sell mature core games...just accept it and move on....just like i accept that ms is going to keep buying sloppy second franchises that were made popular on sony consoles and buying a 360 automatically means i have to buy another one after 3 years....and i have to accept sony ceo's are boneheads...and sony isn't going to get first place...and 99% sure that its going to stay last in the console race

For some reason it seems like a lot of GTA fans aren't buying it just because its 2D. In my group of gamers I'm the only one thats bought it and we're all big GTA fans. When I asked my friends why they're not interested in it they said stuff like "it feels like a step back" and "it was scaled down and gimped to run on DS." I much prefer GTA:CW to the PSP GTA's because it has a unique identity. Liberty/Vice City Stories were cool in their own way but they were exactly the same as the PS2 games and didn't feel fresh.

There seems to be only 1 explanation. The majority of GTA fans are the biggest graphic whores on earth and will pass on a given opportunity to play the best GTA by far since Vice City all because the graphics arent up to snuff.

Dahaka-UK

this !

what stops the GTA fans buying the ds version ?

the ds is cheap

the library is awesome

only the graphics are not on paar with the console version :|

those are the same people bash the wii for its graphics and unable too see that games can be good even if they look like last gen games

what stops the GTA fans buying the ds version ?habkeinbock

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http://kotaku.com/5259924/grand-theft-auto-chinatown-wars-second-month-sales-drop-in-npd+pds

This is going from bad-to worse.GTA:Chinatown Wars sales dropped by about 15,000 unites from last month. Why won't this game sell well:(

TheGreatOutdoor

hmmm... seems like the casuals dont like 'hardcore games' very much.

For some reason it seems like a lot of GTA fans aren't buying it just because its 2D. In my group of gamers I'm the only one thats bought it and we're all big GTA fans. When I asked my friends why they're not interested in it they said stuff like "it feels like a step back" and "it was scaled down and gimped to run on DS." I much prefer GTA:CW to the PSP GTA's because it has a unique identity. Liberty/Vice City Stories were cool in their own way but they were exactly the same as the PS2 games and didn't feel fresh.

manicfoot

That's the reason why I and a lot of my friends didn't buy it.

It is a step back. GTAIV was a living and breathing city, GTA:CW is not. I am well aware that it has a lot of the stuff GTAIV has but that doesn't change the fact that the game isn't the same experience as it's big brother. I don't play GTA game to enjoy the bad story the repetitive missions or the buggy AI. I enjoy GTA games for the Sandbox feel of driving around in a living city. That is something that the DS can not handle.

I'm not saying the game is bad because frankly the reviews state the opposite, it's a superb game. It's just not the game I want to play on the DS or the game I want GTA to be. It would be like having a 2D Gears game on the DS like Contra. It could be a kick-ass game and I would probably buy it but it would not be the game that most Gears fans want.

[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

http://kotaku.com/5259924/grand-theft-auto-chinatown-wars-second-month-sales-drop-in-npd+pds

This is going from bad-to worse.GTA:Chinatown Wars sales dropped by about 15,000 unites from last month. Why won't this game sell well:(

dethroned3

hmmm... seems like the casuals dont like 'hardcore games' very much.

More like the DS user-base isn't interested in an M rated casual game.

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

For some reason it seems like a lot of GTA fans aren't buying it just because its 2D. In my group of gamers I'm the only one thats bought it and we're all big GTA fans. When I asked my friends why they're not interested in it they said stuff like "it feels like a step back" and "it was scaled down and gimped to run on DS." I much prefer GTA:CW to the PSP GTA's because it has a unique identity. Liberty/Vice City Stories were cool in their own way but they were exactly the same as the PS2 games and didn't feel fresh.

JLF1

That's the reason why I and a lot of my friends didn't buy it.

It is a step back. GTAIV was a living and breathing city, GTA:CW is not. I am well aware that it has a lot of the stuff GTAIV has but that doesn't change the fact that the game isn't the same experience as it's big brother. I don't play GTA game to enjoy the bad story the repetitive missions or the buggy AI. I enjoy GTA games for the Sandbox feel of driving around in a living city. That is something that the DS can not handle.

I'm not saying the game is bad because frankly the reviews state the opposite, it's a superb game. It's just not the game I want to play on the DS or the game I want GTA to be. It would be like having a 2D Gears game on the DS like Contra. It could be a kick-ass game and I would probably buy it but it would not be the game that most Gears fans want.

Nintendo doesn't = Hard core. :P

Wish devs would see this. If your going to make a good casual game... Your going to make out big. You make anything like Sony or MS on a Nintendo system your in for disappointment.

Nintendo doesn't = Hard core. :P

Wish devs would see this. If your going to make a good casual game... Your going to make out big. You make anything like Sony or MS on a Nintendo system your in for disappointment.

Truth_Hurts_U

GTA is a hardcore game? :|nintendo-4life

Yes, GTA in general is hard core... Because it's rated M and the fact that not many people finish them.