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#51 redCloudJ7
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Duh. Madden is one of the most competitive games out there and is the biggest gaming event each Summer. Why wouldn't I buy it. Blackbond

So you bought it because of those reasons.

Not becasue its Fun. Not becasue its deep.Not becasue its a high quality product.

Oh well....not my money.

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#52 oscarVD
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[QUOTE="furtherfan"]great damage control......... kinda bummed the PS3 version is completely inferiour eh?gamergeekgeek

cows are just desperate, dont worry about them

DUde...what?....saying cows are desperate yet you lied saying you paly/rented the ps3 version even thought you dont have a ps3 and have never play the ps3 version

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#53 Blackbond
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Thats is sad, looking for bugs on a game, instead of playing it...:lol:Art_424

There was a pay per view special on Comcast last year where a bunch of Hardcore gamers exploited the game and revealed most if not all the glitches. $20 to order it.

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#54 swamprat_basic
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I wonder if players can actually catch the ball on the sideline this year.
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#55 PS3_3DO
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Thats is sad, looking for bugs on a game, instead of playing it...:lol:Art_424

You know he is a Sony fanboy! :lol: They got lots of time on their hands. :lol:

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well, at least he wasnt playing the Wii version.
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#57 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"] Duh. Madden is one of the most competitive games out there and is the biggest gaming event each Summer. Why wouldn't I buy it. redCloudJ7

So you bought it because of those reasons.

Not becasue its Fun. Not becasue its deep.Not becasue its a high quality product.

Oh well....not my money.

Madden is one of the deepest gameplay expereinces you can find out there. What games are you playing?

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[QUOTE="Art_424"]Thats is sad, looking for bugs on a game, instead of playing it...:lol:PS3_3DO

You know he is a Sony fanboy! :lol: They got lots of time on their hands. :lol:

sad cows

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#59 azimiballer
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lo ha and i thought the 360 had the better game.
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#60 leejohnson7
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I didn't notice any when I was playing :|ganon546

Ohh? well then I guess that means nobody else did.

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#62 bryehngeocef
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I've already sunk 20-30 hours into Madden on 360 and haven't had a single issue in any of the modes. Just lucky I guess.

Even if it IS bugged out, at least we have the option of downloading a title update when (big IF actually, it IS EA) it's available.

I'm more concerned about the lag in the Wii version's online that renders the game essentially unplayable.

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#63 DA_B0MB
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Another reason why I don't buy Madden games.
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#64 -Sora
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what he said about BF2 is the truth. :lol:

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#65 Blackbond
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One or moe words within your message were automatically censored. So GS how am I supposed to find these words?

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#66 PapaGlide
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EA really sucks
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#67 redCloudJ7
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Madden is one of the deepest gameplay expereinces you can find out there. Blackbond

Take Street Fighter 3rd Strike out of your sig immediately.:|

What games are you playing? Blackbond

Starcraft, Deus Ex, Ninja Gaiden, Counter Strike, Baldur's Gate, Civilization 4, Godhand, and Guilty Gear X2 (even though the game is seriouslybroken)

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#68 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"] Madden is one of the deepest gameplay expereinces you can find out there. redCloudJ7

Take Street Fighter 3rd Strike out of your sig immediately.:|

What games are you playing? Blackbond

Starcraft, Deus Ex, Ninja Gaiden, Counter Strike, Baldur's Gate, Civilization 4, Godhand, and Guilty Gear X2 (even though the game is seriouslybroken)

Yes Madden isn't a Hardcore game yup you are so correct. Briefly explain to me all of these pre-snap options, terms, and sequences all Hardcore players know how to use before each snap and there usages.

OFFENSE

  • Slide Protection
  • Man in Motion
  • Audible (how many can you choose)
  • Quick Audible (how many can you set)
  • Man in motion
  • Hot Route Curl, Slant, Streak, Go, Wheel
  • Screen
  • Hard Juke vs Soft Juk
  • Pre-Snap Visions
  • Hitch
  • Playmaker
  • Flip
  • Zone Read
  • Man Read
  • Blitz Read
  • Blitz Pickup
  • Stunt Pick up
  • Gaps Fire
  • Weapons
  • Mismatch/Matchup
  • Spelling

DEFENSE

  • Man Coverage
  • Zone Coverage
  • Cover 1
  • Cover 2
  • Cover 3
  • Zone Blitz
  • Man Blitz
  • D Line Shift
  • LB Shift
  • Shading
  • Bump and Run
  • Shadow Defense
  • Jamming
  • Set Stunts
  • Slide to WR
  • Slide to TE
  • QB Spy
  • Audible (How many do you have to choose)
  • Quick Audible (How many can you set)
  • Reverse
  • Spelling
  • Hide Coverage
  • Slide Coverage
  • Call a Double
  • Call a Triple Double/Triple with over the Top Zone
  • Zone inward
  • Zone outward
  • Guess to jump route

This is the amount of mind games and options you can do in Madden after a set play is picked. All of these above can all be down on the field before the snap of the ball. I won't even go into the depth of the game once the ball has been snapped otherwise I'd have to right a 10 page paper on why you shouldn't ever make an ignorant assumption again

You want me to take my SFIII sig out? Ha get on the floor. My boys and I use this to play Guilty Gear X2, SFIII 3rd Strike, KOF 02/03, Capcom vs SNK 2 EO, Tech Romancer, Jo Jo's Bizzare Adventure, Marvel vs Capcom and many more. What do you use? A silly gamepad or something else? Why don't you tell me? Don't you ever lecture me on what's Hardcore and what isn't. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever.

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#69 p2rus
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madden games have always had horrible bugs, thats why i dont buy them. just put an invisible wall where the stands start...
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#70 redCloudJ7
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Yes Madden isn't a Hardcore game yup you are so correct. Briefly explain to me all of these pre-snap options, terms, and sequences all Hardcore players know how to use before each snap and there usages.

OFFENSE

  • Slide Protection
  • Man in Motion
  • Audible (how many can you choose)
  • Quick Audible (how many can you set)
  • Man in motion
  • Hot Route Curl, Slant, Streak, Go, Wheel
  • Screen
  • Hard Juke vs Soft Juk
  • Pre-Snap Visions
  • Hitch
  • Playmaker
  • Flip
  • Zone Read
  • Man Read
  • Blitz Read
  • Blitz Pickup
  • Stunt Pick up
  • Gaps Fire
  • Weapons
  • Mismatch/Matchup
  • Spelling

DEFENSE

  • Man Coverage
  • Zone Coverage
  • Cover 1
  • Cover 2
  • Cover 3
  • Zone Blitz
  • Man Blitz
  • D Line Shift
  • LB Shift
  • Shading
  • Bump and Run
  • Shadow Defense
  • Jamming
  • Set Stunts
  • Slide to WR
  • Slide to TE
  • QB Spy
  • Audible (How many do you have to choose)
  • Quick Audible (How many can you set)
  • Reverse
  • Spelling
  • Hide Coverage
  • Slide Coverage
  • Call a Double
  • Call a Triple Double/Triple with over the Top Zone
  • Zone inward
  • Zone outward
  • Guess to jump route

Blackbond

Not before you explain this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBXOZIRF9Gw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2En4g%2Ecom%2FNews%2D59465%2Easpx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APB6-Exy3TM&watch_response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxtFzh-wd0

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Yes Madden isn't a Hardcore game yup you are so correct. Briefly explain to me all of these pre-snap options, terms, and sequences all Hardcore players know how to use before each snap and there usages. OFFENSE Strong Slide Protection Man in Motion Audible (how many can you choose) Quick Audible (how many can you set) Man in motion Hot Route Curl, Slant, Streak, Go, Wheel Screen Hard Juke vs Soft Juk Pre-Snap Visions Hitch Playmaker Flip Zone Read Man Read Blitz Read Blitz Pickup Stunt Pick up Gaps Fire Weapons Mismatch/Matchup Spelling DEFENSE Man Coverage Zone Coverage Cover 1 Cover 2 Cover 3 Zone Blitz Man Blitz D Line Shift LB Shift Shading Bump and Run Shadow Defense Jamming Set Stunts Slide to WR Slide to TE QB Spy Audible (How many do you have to choose) Quick Audible (How many can you set) Reverse Spelling Hide Coverage Slide Coverage Call a Double Call a Triple Double/Triple with over the Top Zone Zone inward Zone outward Guess to jump route Blackbond

you're right its not hardcore, its a simulation football game...come on just read the freakin manual to do all the presnap audibles.

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#72 p2rus
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[Not before you explain this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBXOZIRF9Gw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2En4g%2Ecom%2FNews%2D59465%2Easpx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APB6-Exy3TM&watch_response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxtFzh-wd0

redCloudJ7

im sorry but that guy is amazing

"hes doing the ()@(*#& moonwalk! and even hes saying wtf!

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#73 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"] Yes Madden isn't a Hardcore game yup you are so correct. Briefly explain to me all of these pre-snap options, terms, and sequences all Hardcore players know how to use before each snap and there usages.

OFFENSE

  • Slide Protection
  • Man in Motion
  • Audible (how many can you choose)
  • Quick Audible (how many can you set)
  • Man in motion
  • Hot Route Curl, Slant, Streak, Go, Wheel
  • Screen
  • Hard Juke vs Soft Juk
  • Pre-Snap Visions
  • Hitch
  • Playmaker
  • Flip
  • Zone Read
  • Man Read
  • Blitz Read
  • Blitz Pickup
  • Stunt Pick up
  • Gaps Fire
  • Weapons
  • Mismatch/Matchup
  • Spelling

DEFENSE

  • Man Coverage
  • Zone Coverage
  • Cover 1
  • Cover 2
  • Cover 3
  • Zone Blitz
  • Man Blitz
  • D Line Shift
  • LB Shift
  • Shading
  • Bump and Run
  • Shadow Defense
  • Jamming
  • Set Stunts
  • Slide to WR
  • Slide to TE
  • QB Spy
  • Audible (How many do you have to choose)
  • Quick Audible (How many can you set)
  • Reverse
  • Spelling
  • Hide Coverage
  • Slide Coverage
  • Call a Double
  • Call a Triple Double/Triple with over the Top Zone
  • Zone inward
  • Zone outward
  • Guess to jump route

redCloudJ7

Not before you explain this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBXOZIRF9Gw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2En4g%2Ecom%2FNews%2D59465%2Easpx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APB6-Exy3TM&watch_response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxtFzh-wd0

So I take it that you couldn't answer my question. That you can't show me why Madden isn't a Hardcore game with tons of depth. Instead of you answering my question you ask me a question. Well why don't you ask yourself this. Why did Street Fighter 3 need 3 editions? Why were there so many revisions and rebalances? Easy because all games yes you heard me all games have glitches in them. You think Madden 08 is the only game that has glitches? Do you realize how many times Starcraft and games like Counter Strike have been patched? Games like Halo and Gears of War don't have glitches? Games like Madden will also be patched. All games release with glitches yes even Zelda TP one of Nintendo's most glorified franchishes. Does Final Fantasy have glitches as well? Absolutely. Now that I have explained to you that all games have glitches why don't you get back to answering my question. That is if you can. I mean it should be easier to explain it all then doing Sol's 24 hit Dust Roman Cancel Combo seeing as how you're just so Hardcore right?

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#74 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Yes Madden isn't a Hardcore game yup you are so correct. Briefly explain to me all of these pre-snap options, terms, and sequences all Hardcore players know how to use before each snap and there usages. OFFENSE Strong Slide Protection Man in Motion Audible (how many can you choose) Quick Audible (how many can you set) Man in motion Hot Route Curl, Slant, Streak, Go, Wheel Screen Hard Juke vs Soft Juk Pre-Snap Visions Hitch Playmaker Flip Zone Read Man Read Blitz Read Blitz Pickup Stunt Pick up Gaps Fire Weapons Mismatch/Matchup Spelling DEFENSE Man Coverage Zone Coverage Cover 1 Cover 2 Cover 3 Zone Blitz Man Blitz D Line Shift LB Shift Shading Bump and Run Shadow Defense Jamming Set Stunts Slide to WR Slide to TE QB Spy Audible (How many do you have to choose) Quick Audible (How many can you set) Reverse Spelling Hide Coverage Slide Coverage Call a Double Call a Triple Double/Triple with over the Top Zone Zone inward Zone outward Guess to jump route p2rus

you're right its not hardcore, its a simulation football game...come on just read the freakin manual to do all the presnap audibles.

Anybody can know how to do them but do you know what they do? Do you realize the depth of usage they have given the required situation? Or do you just say oh this button does this? Hey what is this?

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[QUOTE="p2rus"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Yes Madden isn't a Hardcore game yup you are so correct. Briefly explain to me all of these pre-snap options, terms, and sequences all Hardcore players know how to use before each snap and there usages. OFFENSE Strong Slide Protection Man in Motion Audible (how many can you choose) Quick Audible (how many can you set) Man in motion Hot Route Curl, Slant, Streak, Go, Wheel Screen Hard Juke vs Soft Juk Pre-Snap Visions Hitch Playmaker Flip Zone Read Man Read Blitz Read Blitz Pickup Stunt Pick up Gaps Fire Weapons Mismatch/Matchup Spelling DEFENSE Man Coverage Zone Coverage Cover 1 Cover 2 Cover 3 Zone Blitz Man Blitz D Line Shift LB Shift Shading Bump and Run Shadow Defense Jamming Set Stunts Slide to WR Slide to TE QB Spy Audible (How many do you have to choose) Quick Audible (How many can you set) Reverse Spelling Hide Coverage Slide Coverage Call a Double Call a Triple Double/Triple with over the Top Zone Zone inward Zone outward Guess to jump route Blackbond

you're right its not hardcore, its a simulation football game...come on just read the freakin manual to do all the presnap audibles.

Anybody can know how to do them but do you know what they do? Do you realize the depth of usage they have given the required situation? Or do you just say oh this button does this? Hey what is this?

there is something called simulation. as a basic "yes, the post route fade option blah blah does blank"

its not that hard to enter that all into a game. but the ai, animations, glitches that repeate every single year...thats about quality control...and ea doesnt make a good football game.

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#76 goodlay
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Madden is a hardcore game, if you don't think so, you aren't a Football or a sports fan in general. The presnap changes are absolutely amazing and they are completely realistic, its just like real Football. All the people bashing the 360 versions minimal bugs haven't played Madden or they just hate the 360. Because the 360 version looks reasonably better and runs smooth as hell, and to add, I didn't experience any bugs in my several hour encounter with the game.
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So I take it that you couldn't answer my question. That you can't show me why Madden isn't a Hardcore game with tons of depth. Instead of you answering my question you ask me a question. Well why don't you ask yourself this. Why did Street Fighter 3 need 3 editions? Why were there so many revisions and rebalances? Easy because all games yes you heard me all games have glitches in them. You think Madden 08 is the only game that has glitches? Do you realize how many times Starcraft and games like Counter Strike have been patched? Games like Halo and Gears of War don't have glitches? Games like Madden will also be patched. All games release with glitches yes even Zelda TP one of Nintendo's most glorified franchishes. Does Final Fantasy have glitches as well? Absolutely. Now that I have explained to you that all games have glitches why don't you get back to answering my question. That is if you can. I mean it should be easier to explain it all then doing Sol's 24 hit Dust Roman Cancel Combo seeing as how you're just so Hardcore right? Blackbond

Madden's flaws are fundamental parts of the game. Look at the AI. The game is not deep. The game is not high quality. You are the ONLY person (seriously) defending this game. You're a Madden fantatic. You are blind.

We all are sick and tired of the trash (Madden)EA puts out.

Tecmo Bowl > Madden.

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#78 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="p2rus"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Yes Madden isn't a Hardcore game yup you are so correct. Briefly explain to me all of these pre-snap options, terms, and sequences all Hardcore players know how to use before each snap and there usages. OFFENSE Strong Slide Protection Man in Motion Audible (how many can you choose) Quick Audible (how many can you set) Man in motion Hot Route Curl, Slant, Streak, Go, Wheel Screen Hard Juke vs Soft Juk Pre-Snap Visions Hitch Playmaker Flip Zone Read Man Read Blitz Read Blitz Pickup Stunt Pick up Gaps Fire Weapons Mismatch/Matchup Spelling DEFENSE Man Coverage Zone Coverage Cover 1 Cover 2 Cover 3 Zone Blitz Man Blitz D Line Shift LB Shift Shading Bump and Run Shadow Defense Jamming Set Stunts Slide to WR Slide to TE QB Spy Audible (How many do you have to choose) Quick Audible (How many can you set) Reverse Spelling Hide Coverage Slide Coverage Call a Double Call a Triple Double/Triple with over the Top Zone Zone inward Zone outward Guess to jump route p2rus

you're right its not hardcore, its a simulation football game...come on just read the freakin manual to do all the presnap audibles.

Anybody can know how to do them but do you know what they do? Do you realize the depth of usage they have given the required situation? Or do you just say oh this button does this? Hey what is this?

there is something called simulation. as a basic "yes, the post route fade option blah blah does blank"

its not that hard to enter that all into a game. but the ai, animations, glitches that repeate every single year...thats about quality control...and ea doesnt make a good football game.

There is no such thing as a post route fade option in Madden. Try again. Quality control? AA isn't quality? Wow what has gaming come too.

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"] So I take it that you couldn't answer my question. That you can't show me why Madden isn't a Hardcore game with tons of depth. Instead of you answering my question you ask me a question. Well why don't you ask yourself this. Why did Street Fighter 3 need 3 editions? Why were there so many revisions and rebalances? Easy because all games yes you heard me all games have glitches in them. You think Madden 08 is the only game that has glitches? Do you realize how many times Starcraft and games like Counter Strike have been patched? Games like Halo and Gears of War don't have glitches? Games like Madden will also be patched. All games release with glitches yes even Zelda TP one of Nintendo's most glorified franchishes. Does Final Fantasy have glitches as well? Absolutely. Now that I have explained to you that all games have glitches why don't you get back to answering my question. That is if you can. I mean it should be easier to explain it all then doing Sol's 24 hit Dust Roman Cancel Combo seeing as how you're just so Hardcore right? redCloudJ7

Madden's flaws are fundamental parts of the game. Look at the AI. The game is notdeep. The game is not high quality. You are the ONLY person (seriously)defending this game. You're aMadden fantatic. You are blind.

We all are sick and tired of the trash EA puts out.

Tecmo Bowl > Madden.

Try playing Madden 08 first. The AI is so much smarter this year, especially on Defense, the CBs are really tough. The game isn't deep? You've got to be kidding me. The superstar mode is a lot better because they got rid of all the lame side crap, like landing movie deals and remembering lines and crap like that, and choosing parents. The owner mode is back as financial mode, so people who like the micro management aspect of Football will enjoy that. However, they took out stupid stuff like setting prices of popcorn and hats and whatnot.

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Try playing Madden 08 first. The AI is so much smarter this year, especially on Defense, the CBs are really tough. The game isn't deep? You've got to be kidding me. The superstar mode is a lot better because they got rid of all the lame side crap, like landing movie deals and remembering lines and crap like that, and choosing parents. The owner mode is back as financial mode, so people who like the micro management aspect of Football will enjoy that. However, they took out stupid stuff like setting prices of popcorn and hats and whatnot. goodlay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxtFzh-wd0

WTF were you saying about the AI?

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#81 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"] So I take it that you couldn't answer my question. That you can't show me why Madden isn't a Hardcore game with tons of depth. Instead of you answering my question you ask me a question. Well why don't you ask yourself this. Why did Street Fighter 3 need 3 editions? Why were there so many revisions and rebalances? Easy because all games yes you heard me all games have glitches in them. You think Madden 08 is the only game that has glitches? Do you realize how many times Starcraft and games like Counter Strike have been patched? Games like Halo and Gears of War don't have glitches? Games like Madden will also be patched. All games release with glitches yes even Zelda TP one of Nintendo's most glorified franchishes. Does Final Fantasy have glitches as well? Absolutely. Now that I have explained to you that all games have glitches why don't you get back to answering my question. That is if you can. I mean it should be easier to explain it all then doing Sol's 24 hit Dust Roman Cancel Combo seeing as how you're just so Hardcore right? redCloudJ7

Madden's flaws are fundamental parts of the game. Look at the AI. The game is not deep. The game is not high quality. You are the ONLY person (seriously) defending this game. You're a Madden fantatic. You are blind.

We all are sick and tired of the trash (Madden)EA puts out.

Tecmo Bowl > Madden.

Yeah only in Madden 04 but you probably wouldn't know that. Look at the A.I? What about it are you not playing on All-Madden? The game is proven deep by its immense gameplay mechanics and options. The same options you still refuse to respond to. I am the only person defending this game? Yeah right thats why Madden sold 7.4 Million in the U.S last year. Its not my fault that most of the forum is allergic to sports or comes from a country outside of America that doesn't accept American Football. We are not sick of Madden since it outsells practically all games.

The only thing you are right about is Tecmo Super Bowl > Madden. Wait you're wrong again cause you said Tecmo Bowl.

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saying that there isnt good quality control for an aa game is acceptable my friend. if a game has lots of bugs every year then someone isnt paying attention and screening for these bugs.
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#83 goodlay
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[QUOTE="goodlay"] Try playing Madden 08 first. The AI is so much smarter this year, especially on Defense, the CBs are really tough. The game isn't deep? You've got to be kidding me. The superstar mode is a lot better because they got rid of all the lame side crap, like landing movie deals and remembering lines and crap like that, and choosing parents. The owner mode is back as financial mode, so people who like the micro management aspect of Football will enjoy that. However, they took out stupid stuff like setting prices of popcorn and hats and whatnot. redCloudJ7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxtFzh-wd0

WTF were you saying about the AI?

Wow, youtube what an incredible source for completely reliable videos from such reliable people. Hes playing on easy and running around like an idiot, your point being?

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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I guess the PS3 version must be bug free huh? :|PS3_3DO

Good Question. I didn't see anything saying so, Will look tho

There are a lot more I bet. :|

If there is,show me the video!:roll:
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[QUOTE="goodlay"] Try playing Madden 08 first. The AI is so much smarter this year, especially on Defense, the CBs are really tough. The game isn't deep? You've got to be kidding me. The superstar mode is a lot better because they got rid of all the lame side crap, like landing movie deals and remembering lines and crap like that, and choosing parents. The owner mode is back as financial mode, so people who like the micro management aspect of Football will enjoy that. However, they took out stupid stuff like setting prices of popcorn and hats and whatnot. redCloudJ7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxtFzh-wd0

WTF were you saying about the AI?

That game was played with no fatigue and its not even on All-Madden. How much more self-ownage can you ask for lol

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[QUOTE="redCloudJ7"]

[QUOTE="goodlay"] Try playing Madden 08 first. The AI is so much smarter this year, especially on Defense, the CBs are really tough. The game isn't deep? You've got to be kidding me. The superstar mode is a lot better because they got rid of all the lame side crap, like landing movie deals and remembering lines and crap like that, and choosing parents. The owner mode is back as financial mode, so people who like the micro management aspect of Football will enjoy that. However, they took out stupid stuff like setting prices of popcorn and hats and whatnot. Blackbond

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxtFzh-wd0

WTF were you saying about the AI?

That game was played with no fatigue and its not even on All-Madden. How much more self-ownage can you ask for lol

If the difficulty was even on Pro I would be surprised.

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#87 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="redCloudJ7"]

[QUOTE="goodlay"] Try playing Madden 08 first. The AI is so much smarter this year, especially on Defense, the CBs are really tough. The game isn't deep? You've got to be kidding me. The superstar mode is a lot better because they got rid of all the lame side crap, like landing movie deals and remembering lines and crap like that, and choosing parents. The owner mode is back as financial mode, so people who like the micro management aspect of Football will enjoy that. However, they took out stupid stuff like setting prices of popcorn and hats and whatnot. goodlay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxtFzh-wd0

WTF were you saying about the AI?

Wow, youtube what an incredible source for completely reliable videos from such reliable people. Hes playing on easy and running around like an idiot, your point being?

Not to mention he has the fatigued turned off lol. Um have these rookies heard of defensive assist? Clearly that option is off.

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#88 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="redCloudJ7"]

[QUOTE="goodlay"] Try playing Madden 08 first. The AI is so much smarter this year, especially on Defense, the CBs are really tough. The game isn't deep? You've got to be kidding me. The superstar mode is a lot better because they got rid of all the lame side crap, like landing movie deals and remembering lines and crap like that, and choosing parents. The owner mode is back as financial mode, so people who like the micro management aspect of Football will enjoy that. However, they took out stupid stuff like setting prices of popcorn and hats and whatnot. goodlay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxtFzh-wd0

WTF were you saying about the AI?

That game was played with no fatigue and its not even on All-Madden. How much more self-ownage can you ask for lol

If the difficulty was even on Pro I would be surprised.

See vids on youtube are hardly worthy of any proof. You can clearly see that the offensive player isn't slowing down at all which implies that fatigue is off. Also any idiot could have made the tackle by themselves.

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#89 p2rus
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just because its on easy mode shouldnt mean that the ai has the iq of a bowl of peanuts or something

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#90 goodlay
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just because its on easy mode shouldnt mean that the ai has the iq of a bowl of peanuts or something

p2rus

Also the fatigue is turned off. Easy is supposed to be easy, and with no fatigue once you get past somebody they aren't going to catch you. Logical thinking ftw.

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Yeah only in Madden 04 but you probably wouldn't know that. Look at the A.I? What about it are you not playing on All-Madden? The game is proven deep by its immense gameplay mechanics and options. The same options you still refuse to respond to. I am the only person defending this game? Yeah right thats why Madden sold 7.4 Million in the U.S last year. Its not my fault that most of the forum is allergic to sports or comes from a country outside of America that doesn't accept American Football. We are not sick of Madden since it outsells practically all games.Blackbond

Who givesa d*** about sales. Seriously. If your a gamer why do care about whats popular and how many copies a game sells?It's meaningless.Quality, fun, and depth are things that actually matter.

Of course Madden fanatics aren't sick of madden. Thats why they are fanatics. They are blind.

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#92 Blackbond
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just because its on easy mode shouldnt mean that the ai has the iq of a bowl of peanuts or something

p2rus

Actually it does. The A.I increases as you increase difficulty. How do you people bash a game and not know these stupid things? Even the best player would let up an obscene amount of points in a game played on Rookie and do you know why? The games A.I changes on difficulty. I can't believe you guys. Bashing a game and not even knowing anything about it lol.

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#93 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"] Yeah only in Madden 04 but you probably wouldn't know that. Look at the A.I? What about it are you not playing on All-Madden? The game is proven deep by its immense gameplay mechanics and options. The same options you still refuse to respond to. I am the only person defending this game? Yeah right thats why Madden sold 7.4 Million in the U.S last year. Its not my fault that most of the forum is allergic to sports or comes from a country outside of America that doesn't accept American Football. We are not sick of Madden since it outsells practically all games.redCloudJ7

Who givesa d*** about sales. Seriously. If your a gamer why do care about whats popular and how many copies a game sells?It's meaningless.Quality, fun, and depth are things that actually matter.

Of course Madden fanatics aren't sick of madden. Thats why they are fanatics. They are blind.

Wait you said who cares about the game? Obviously the large amount of people who bought it duh. Proving your point wrong again and again and again. When are you going to answer my question? You've been dodging for two pages now. Tell me what all those things do

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#94 goodlay
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"] Yeah only in Madden 04 but you probably wouldn't know that. Look at the A.I? What about it are you not playing on All-Madden? The game is proven deep by its immense gameplay mechanics and options. The same options you still refuse to respond to. I am the only person defending this game? Yeah right thats why Madden sold 7.4 Million in the U.S last year. Its not my fault that most of the forum is allergic to sports or comes from a country outside of America that doesn't accept American Football. We are not sick of Madden since it outsells practically all games.redCloudJ7

Who givesa d*** about sales. Seriously. If your a gamer why do care about whats popular and how many copies a game sells?It's meaningless.Quality, fun, and depth are things that actually matter.

Of course Madden fanatics aren't sick of madden. Thats why they are fanatics. They are blind.

System wars relies on sales constantly to determine which console is better but keep telling yourself sales don't matter. Madden is quality, fun, and has a lot of depth for Football fans, you obviously don't give a crap about Madden or Football, so whats the point in argueing? Its like a hockey fan trying to tell me NHL 07 owned but I wouldn't listen because personally I can't stand hockey and I hate the sport.

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#95 p2rus
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[QUOTE="p2rus"]

just because its on easy mode shouldnt mean that the ai has the iq of a bowl of peanuts or something

Blackbond

Actually it does. The A.I increases as you increase difficulty. How do you people bash a game and not know these stupid things? Even the best player would let up an obscene amount of points in a game played on Rookie and do you know why? The games A.I changes on difficulty. I can't believe you guys. Bashing a game and not even knowing anything about it lol.

woah dont hate on me cause i think that madden is a rehash every year. i played 07,06, 05, 04...abd frankly im not impressed. it gets to the point where they say "GANG TACKLES THIS YEAR!" "WOW GANG TACKLES LOOK AWSOME"

sorry, but i require more innovation than lil "weapons" taht have been around in 2k sports for years.

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#96 goodlay
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="p2rus"]

just because its on easy mode shouldnt mean that the ai has the iq of a bowl of peanuts or something

p2rus

Actually it does. The A.I increases as you increase difficulty. How do you people bash a game and not know these stupid things? Even the best player would let up an obscene amount of points in a game played on Rookie and do you know why? The games A.I changes on difficulty. I can't believe you guys. Bashing a game and not even knowing anything about it lol.

woah dont hate on me cause i think that madden is a rehash every year. i played 07,06, 05, 04...abd frankly im not impressed. it gets to the point where they say "GANG TACKLES THIS YEAR!" "WOW GANG TACKLES LOOK AWSOME"

sorry, but i require more innovation than lil "weapons" taht have been around in 2k sports for years.

Seeing this thread is all about Madden 08 and you haven't even played it, your comment means nothing. Who cares about the past, 2K used to make the best Football games in my opinion but APF 2K8 was a huge let down so Madden is the better game this year.

Edit: Talk about a rehash, APF 2K8 was ESPN NFL 2K5 (Which was a fantastic game, don't get me wrong) with legends and no modes or depth at all.

Edit again I forgot something, since when in a 2K football game could a QB like Peyton Manning read the defenses play because hes seen it so much and then quickly audible to a different play. Or a hitter like Brian Dawkins who is a brick wall defender, how did he play differently at all than all the other safeties in 2K5? Oh wait there was no weapons feature in ANY 2K football game. Also would mismatches pop up on your screen if there was one?

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#97 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="p2rus"]

just because its on easy mode shouldnt mean that the ai has the iq of a bowl of peanuts or something

p2rus

Actually it does. The A.I increases as you increase difficulty. How do you people bash a game and not know these stupid things? Even the best player would let up an obscene amount of points in a game played on Rookie and do you know why? The games A.I changes on difficulty. I can't believe you guys. Bashing a game and not even knowing anything about it lol.

woah dont hate on me cause i think that madden is a rehash every year. i played 07,06, 05, 04...abd frankly im not impressed. it gets to the point where they say "GANG TACKLES THIS YEAR!" "WOW GANG TACKLES LOOK AWSOME"

sorry, but i require more innovation than lil "weapons" taht have been around in 2k sports for years.

Great you have Madden experience. So you should no what all of these things are correct?


OFFENSE

  • Slide Protection
  • Man in Motion
  • Audible (how many can you choose)
  • Quick Audible (how many can you set)
  • Man in motion
  • Hot Route Curl, Slant, Streak, Go, Wheel
  • Screen
  • Hard Juke vs Soft Juk
  • Pre-Snap Visions
  • Hitch
  • Playmaker
  • Flip
  • Zone Read
  • Man Read
  • Blitz Read
  • Blitz Pickup
  • Stunt Pick up
  • Gaps Fire
  • Weapons
  • Mismatch/Matchup
  • Spelling

DEFENSE

  • Man Coverage
  • Zone Coverage
  • Cover 1
  • Cover 2
  • Cover 3
  • Zone Blitz
  • Man Blitz
  • D Line Shift
  • LB Shift
  • Shading
  • Bump and Run
  • Shadow Defense
  • Jamming
  • Set Stunts
  • Slide to WR
  • Slide to TE
  • QB Spy
  • Audible (How many do you have to choose)
  • Quick Audible (How many can you set)
  • Reverse
  • Spelling
  • Hide Coverage
  • Slide Coverage
  • Call a Double
  • Call a Triple Double/Triple with over the Top Zone
  • Zone inward
  • Zone outward
  • Guess to jump route
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LOL, the way he ran away through the crowd was so :lol:
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#99 p2rus
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i know what those things do and i recognize them and can distinguish between them when i play...

not every madden player is the avid OMG LET ME MEMORIZE THE TRADEMARKED OFFICIAL NAME FOR EACH FEATURE

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Running at 60 fps isn't a bug./