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#51 110million
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"] Thats the problem, in order to sell in large numbers its in the devs interest to dumb down games.SkyWard20

The Witcher's gameplay is as simplistic as it gets.

pretty much this.

CDProjekt should leave the RPG's to the pros.

:roll: It was their first game for one, and the gameplay may have been simplistic, but the plot and choices were well done, as well as the enviornments. Sorry to bring up DA2 again, but if leaving it to the pros means leaving it to people like Bioware, RPGs could not be in a sadder state. Bioware were the pros at one point, but in terms of actual RPGs, and not other games with elements of RPGs, CDProjeckt as proven themselves far more than Bioware lately.
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#52 SkyWard20
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Oh man I really hope this game does not go to the consoles. I really don't want to see thread after thread whining about how the game was "consolized".

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I guarantee you that won't happen. I, as a PC gamer, can say that the community here is fully aware of the fact that the Witcher 2 is being built with PC's in mind first and foremost. While at first it may seem to you that this claim, in fact, is not greatly indicative of a difference in quality between the console and PC version, it is more than made up by CDProjekt's decision to delay the console version due to causes completely unrelated to motivations of pioneering the CHAMPIONSHIP of True PC Gamers ( like time and budget constraints; remember, it's the principle that counts! ), and the company's inherent potential to completely f*** up the console version, BECAUSE it's not about PC gamers simply getting a quality GODDAMN game, it's about CONSOLES getting a MUCH CRAPPIER version and learning their GODDAMN f****** place.

[spoiler] Obligatory reminder that my post contains sarcasm. [/spoiler]

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#53 tenaka2
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Oh man I really hope this game does not go to the consoles. I really don't want to see thread after thread whining about how the game was "consolized".

killzoneded

Well, like Blizzard with Diablo 3, all their job posts mention consoles and xbox 360 specifically

So, unless they hire console developers for the fun of it, i guess both will be made for consoles

Well if you read them they all say 360 is a plus. If there were doing a 360 game, 360 experience would be a prereq. But its all speculation anyway, when is the Witcher 2 due out?

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#54 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Oh man I really hope this game does not go to the consoles. I really don't want to see thread after thread whining about how the game was "consolized".

tenaka2

Well, like Blizzard with Diablo 3, all their job posts mention consoles and xbox 360 specifically

So, unless they hire console developers for the fun of it, i guess both will be made for consoles

Well if you read them they all say 360 is a plus. If there were doing a 360 game, 360 experience would be a prereq. But its all speculation anyway, when is the Witcher 2 due out?

In may :D Got my CE preordered too. The expensive one :P

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#55 telefanatic
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[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Oh man I really hope this game does not go to the consoles. I really don't want to see thread after thread whining about how the game was "consolized".

killzoneded

Well, like Blizzard with Diablo 3, all their job posts mention consoles and xbox 360 specifically

So, unless they hire console developers for the fun of it, i guess both will be made for consoles

Why does everyone always think they hiring to port Diablo 3 to 360 ? Has anyone ever thought they maybe making somekind of spinoff maybe ?

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#56 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Oh man I really hope this game does not go to the consoles. I really don't want to see thread after thread whining about how the game was "consolized".

telefanatic

Well, like Blizzard with Diablo 3, all their job posts mention consoles and xbox 360 specifically

So, unless they hire console developers for the fun of it, i guess both will be made for consoles

Why does everyone always think they hiring to port Diablo 3 to 360 ? Has anyone ever thought they maybe making somekind of spinoff maybe ?

Console gamers think they can get anything they want, including ruining out great series. I've always called it as spin-off or clone for these rumors.

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#57 killzoneded
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[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Oh man I really hope this game does not go to the consoles. I really don't want to see thread after thread whining about how the game was "consolized".

telefanatic

Well, like Blizzard with Diablo 3, all their job posts mention consoles and xbox 360 specifically

So, unless they hire console developers for the fun of it, i guess both will be made for consoles

Why does everyone always think they hiring to port Diablo 3 to 360 ? Has anyone ever thought they maybe making somekind of spinoff maybe ?

Because

1. is on Diablo 3 jobs page, not another project

2. is stupid to spend moneyand make a spin off that may sell nothing, instead of just bringing Diablo 3 with little extra cost and sell millions for the name alone

That is why people will think that is 99% possible to happen, than some wild fictional scenario that is both totally impossible and not making any sense

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[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

Well, like Blizzard with Diablo 3, all their job posts mention consoles and xbox 360 specifically

So, unless they hire console developers for the fun of it, i guess both will be made for consoles

ChubbyGuy40

Why does everyone always think they hiring to port Diablo 3 to 360 ? Has anyone ever thought they maybe making somekind of spinoff maybe ?

Console gamers think they can get anything they want, including ruining out great series. I've always called it as spin-off or clone for these rumors.

we will get it....and we will ruin it. k?

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They've been looking into moving onto consoles for a long time. The Witcher was headed over and was dropped due to a lack of funding IIRC. This is not news Obamanian/Saolin/AbleFa3/Every other name under the sun.

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#61 funsohng
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They have been openly saying about how they wished to bring this to consoles in future. If it succeeds on PC, they should and will be bringing it to consoles EDIT: I love how people turned this thread into a topic about DA2, BioWare, and Blizzard. Elitists FTW!
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#62 killzoneded
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They have been openly saying about how they wished to bring this to consoles in future. If it succeeds on PC, they should and will be bringing it to consoles EDIT: I love how people turned this thread into a topic about DA2, BioWare, and Blizzard. Elitists FTW!funsohng

Indeed, i cant grasp why people would be against it, every single game seems to be going the console way, so why not Withcer 2 and Diablo 3 ? It only makes sense

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#63 haberman13
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]They have been openly saying about how they wished to bring this to consoles in future. If it succeeds on PC, they should and will be bringing it to consoles EDIT: I love how people turned this thread into a topic about DA2, BioWare, and Blizzard. Elitists FTW!killzoneded

Indeed, i cant grasp why people would be against it, every single game seems to be going the console way, so why not Withcer 2 and Diablo 3 ? It only makes sense

You identified the problem in your post: there is a "console way" i.e. easy, hand holding, quick action, less thinking

And yet you can't grasp why people would be against it?

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They have been openly saying about how they wished to bring this to consoles in future. If it succeeds on PC, they should and will be bringing it to consolesfunsohng

If it succeeds on PC, it should stay PC. Just like Crysis 2 should've stayed PC exclusive.

Meh it'll go the route of TW1. Yes we want to do a port...but for some unforseen reason it won't happen.

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#65 SkyWard20
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. This is not news Obamanian/Saolin/AbleFa3/Every other name under the sun.

lundy86_4
what?
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#66 SkyWard20
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[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]They have been openly saying about how they wished to bring this to consoles in future. If it succeeds on PC, they should and will be bringing it to consoles EDIT: I love how people turned this thread into a topic about DA2, BioWare, and Blizzard. Elitists FTW!haberman13

Indeed, i cant grasp why people would be against it, every single game seems to be going the console way, so why not Withcer 2 and Diablo 3 ? It only makes sense

quick action, less thinking

And yet you can't grasp why people would be against it?

and the Witcher and Diablo 3 on PC are... how exactly?

the PC elitism in this thread is grating.

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[QUOTE="funsohng"]They have been openly saying about how they wished to bring this to consoles in future. If it succeeds on PC, they should and will be bringing it to consolesChubbyGuy40

If it succeeds on PC, it should stay PC. Just like Crysis 2 should've stayed PC exclusive.

Meh it'll go the route of TW1. Yes we want to do a port...but for some unforseen reason it won't happen.

If it suceeds on PC there's no reason not to do a console version. Unless it's an RTS or whatever that needs a mouse.
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]They have been openly saying about how they wished to bring this to consoles in future. If it succeeds on PC, they should and will be bringing it to consoleslocopatho

If it succeeds on PC, it should stay PC. Just like Crysis 2 should've stayed PC exclusive.

Meh it'll go the route of TW1. Yes we want to do a port...but for some unforseen reason it won't happen.

If it suceeds on PC there's no reason not to do a console version. Unless it's an RTS or whatever that needs a mouse.

The same rule should apply to console exclusives then.

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[QUOTE="funsohng"]They have been openly saying about how they wished to bring this to consoles in future. If it succeeds on PC, they should and will be bringing it to consolesChubbyGuy40

If it succeeds on PC, it should stay PC. Just like Crysis 2 should've stayed PC exclusive.

Meh it'll go the route of TW1. Yes we want to do a port...but for some unforseen reason it won't happen.

considering the core action of TW2 will be rather simple compared to old school RPGs, I don't see why not. I mean, it supports full controller support anyway.
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#71 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

If it succeeds on PC, it should stay PC. Just like Crysis 2 should've stayed PC exclusive.

Meh it'll go the route of TW1. Yes we want to do a port...but for some unforseen reason it won't happen.

ChubbyGuy40

If it suceeds on PC there's no reason not to do a console version. Unless it's an RTS or whatever that needs a mouse.

The same rule should apply to console exclusives then.

Lawl it's not a rule, or a law that must be enforced, it's just a nice thing that happens sometimes :P
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#72 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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If the PC version's quality does not get compromised, I don't mind the Xbox crowd getting TW2.
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#73 killzoneded
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[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]They have been openly saying about how they wished to bring this to consoles in future. If it succeeds on PC, they should and will be bringing it to consoles EDIT: I love how people turned this thread into a topic about DA2, BioWare, and Blizzard. Elitists FTW!haberman13

Indeed, i cant grasp why people would be against it, every single game seems to be going the console way, so why not Withcer 2 and Diablo 3 ? It only makes sense

You identified the problem in your post: there is a "console way" i.e. easy, hand holding, quick action, less thinking

And yet you can't grasp why people would be against it?

Thats totally up to the developer, isnt it ? What does consoles have to do with it ?

Demons Souls sols millions and is definatly not holding back in the slightest and is one of my top games

Blame the naive developers for the casualization and not consoles themselves

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#74 Boomshaffted
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lol, they always said it would be coming to consoles, but their going to finish the PC one first... some do not sacrafice their integrity. 8)110million
Give them time. As it stands, some developers are just too small to do what most developers want to do - what Bioware did, what Epic did, what ID did, what Valve did - which is make their games on consoles as well as PCs. What amazes me is the naive and self-absorbed PC fans who think that getting their games to more people is a sign of lack of integrity...
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[QUOTE="110million"]lol, they always said it would be coming to consoles, but their going to finish the PC one first... some do not sacrafice their integrity. 8)Boomshaffted
Give them time. As it stands, some developers are just too small to do what most developers want to do - what Bioware did, what Epic did, what ID did, what Valve did - which is make their games on consoles as well as PCs. What amazes me is the naive and self-absorbed PC fans who think that getting their games to more people is a sign of lack of integrity...

Well they don't want the game to be compromised. If a game is made on PC and console seperately for example, don't think many would complain.
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#76 110million
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[QUOTE="110million"]lol, they always said it would be coming to consoles, but their going to finish the PC one first... some do not sacrafice their integrity. 8)Boomshaffted
Give them time. As it stands, some developers are just too small to do what most developers want to do - what Bioware did, what Epic did, what ID did, what Valve did - which is make their games on consoles as well as PCs. What amazes me is the naive and self-absorbed PC fans who think that getting their games to more people is a sign of lack of integrity...

I have absolutely nothing against Valve for one, I could not give a **** if every PC game I played was on consoles as well. I believe good games should be played by all. Epic and ID, I coulden't really care less about, I was never really into those kind of games. Valve has kept up their quality after going into console gaming, Bioware did good with Mass Effect, but very obviously dumbed down Dragon Age 2. Its stuff like Crytek that bothers me, where they could have simply re-used Crysis 1 quality textures for the PC one, it may have taken a bit more effort, but instead we get textures with half the resolution, even on max settings on PC. You get bubbles of stages going from point A to point B instead of nice open areas, you have checkpoints only and the likes. This is what I consider a ruined experiance. If a developer can put in that extra bit of effort to give each version of their game what is expected, (i.e simply placing the higher quality textures for PC Crysis 2, even as a separate download), then its fine.
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[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"][QUOTE="110million"]lol, they always said it would be coming to consoles, but their going to finish the PC one first... some do not sacrafice their integrity. 8)110million
Give them time. As it stands, some developers are just too small to do what most developers want to do - what Bioware did, what Epic did, what ID did, what Valve did - which is make their games on consoles as well as PCs. What amazes me is the naive and self-absorbed PC fans who think that getting their games to more people is a sign of lack of integrity...

I have absolutely nothing against Valve for one, I could not give a **** if every PC game I played was on consoles as well. I believe good games should be played by all. Epic and ID, I coulden't really care less about, I was never really into those kind of games. Valve has kept up their quality after going into console gaming, Bioware did good with Mass Effect, but very obviously dumbed down Dragon Age 2. Its stuff like Crytek that bothers me, where they could have simply re-used Crysis 1 quality textures for the PC one, it may have taken a bit more effort, but instead we get textures with half the resolution, even on max settings on PC. You get bubbles of stages going from point A to point B instead of nice open areas, you have checkpoints only and the likes. This is what I consider a ruined experiance. If a developer can put in that extra bit of effort to give each version of their game what is expected, (i.e simply placing the higher quality textures for PC Crysis 2, even as a separate download), then its fine.

Ah, but here's your error and where your arrogance shows through. There are complex games for both consoles and the PC. Some PC games are horribly simple, making little to no use of the myriad control options, or use of the conventions that PC gamers seems to consider the norm for their platform. Dragon Age II is not the most simple RPG made for the PC's, nor even close to the most "complex" one made for consoles. It's a dumbed down RPG - something that consoles don't have monopolies on, and something that have been present on PCs since long before console multiplats came into existence.

It has become a convenient excuse for PC elitists who don't like to think about it too much to just blame anything that's not overwhelmingly complex on consoles. Sometimes developers just make less complex games - it's not a console exclusive phenomenon. Go figure, Bioware makes games like Mass Effect and they're just dandy and there aren't many complaints because the game is complex, has a clunky inventory system, lots of all but meaningless level up options - in spite of being a console first release. But Dragon Age II comes out? "ZOMG Bioware has no integrity!!!"... Maybe they just never really intended to make the game the pinnacle of RPG complexity, rather than some conspiracy theory that they're dumbing down their games to appeal to the console untermensch?

Heck, it wouldn't hurt PC gamers to remember that a majority of the games played on their platform are the pinnacle of simplicity in flash, browser, and facebook games, and that Bioware might actually be trying to get into that part of the PC gaming market with their more simple games... But no, it's all the consoles' faults, and Bioware (and other developers like them) just have no integrity.

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#78 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="haberman13"]

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

Indeed, i cant grasp why people would be against it, every single game seems to be going the console way, so why not Withcer 2 and Diablo 3 ? It only makes sense

killzoneded

You identified the problem in your post: there is a "console way" i.e. easy, hand holding, quick action, less thinking

And yet you can't grasp why people would be against it?

Thats totally up to the developer, isnt it ? What does consoles have to do with it ?

Demons Souls sols millions and is definatly not holding back in the slightest and is one of my top games

Blame the naive developers for the casualization and not consoles themselves

But you hate the PS3 as much as you hate the PC bringing ps3 exclusives into it doesn't really support your xbox agenda.
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#79 Vadamee
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I hope it doesn't. I had the Witcher PC along side Mass Effect-PC back in the day and honestly, ME made it feel dated.(Cause it was) Its time for PC developers to stop making cRPGs in the 21st century 'cause when I cast a spell, I want it look as though its being cast... And I would like my avatar's feet to touch the ground; terrible collision detection. Package my above complaints with terrible, stupid looking characters and cheesy cut-scenes and you have an average RPG. There are much better RPGs on consoles, so this will not be missed.
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They don't advertise their games..... how exactly will this sell on consoles then?
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#81 lawlessx
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for the 100th time..they have been repeating for over a year now that they have been "testing" to see if it would work on the 360/ps3..they have been repeating that statement every time the question is brought up to them. If they are going to port the game don't expect to hear about it anytime near the release of the game on the PC.
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I'd rather they use the money they earn from PC sales to fund another PC game.
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#83 lawlessx
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I'd rather they use the money they earn from PC sales to fund another PC game. SAGE_OF_FIRE
expansion pack for witcher 2? yes please :)
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#84 killzoneded
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for the 100th time..they have been repeating for over a year now that they have been "testing" to see if it would work on the 360/ps3..they have been repeating that statement every time the question is brought up to them. If they are going to port the game don't expect to hear about it anytime near the release of the game on the PC.lawlessx

Indeed, they keep the news for E3 to get maximum exposure

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#85 tempest91
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They don't advertise their games..... how exactly will this sell on consoles then? SAGE_OF_FIRE

With some killer boxart.

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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]They don't advertise their games..... how exactly will this sell on consoles then? tempest91

With some killer boxart.

But a bald guy on the cover and have an explosion in the background with bullets flying everywhere... yeah...
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#87 tempest91
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]They don't advertise their games..... how exactly will this sell on consoles then? SAGE_OF_FIRE

With some killer boxart.

But a bald guy on the cover and have an explosion in the background with bullets flying everywhere... yeah...

Better yet, haveGeralt cutting through bullets with his sword while holding a nearly naked girl and change the title to The Witcher: Call of Droga.

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#88 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]for the 100th time..they have been repeating for over a year now that they have been "testing" to see if it would work on the 360/ps3..they have been repeating that statement every time the question is brought up to them. If they are going to port the game don't expect to hear about it anytime near the release of the game on the PC.killzoneded

Indeed, they keep the news for E3 to get maximum exposure

When is e3?

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[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]for the 100th time..they have been repeating for over a year now that they have been "testing" to see if it would work on the 360/ps3..they have been repeating that statement every time the question is brought up to them. If they are going to port the game don't expect to hear about it anytime near the release of the game on the PC.tenaka2

Indeed, they keep the news for E3 to get maximum exposure

When is e3?

E3 is usually in early June.
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#90 killzoneded
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[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]for the 100th time..they have been repeating for over a year now that they have been "testing" to see if it would work on the 360/ps3..they have been repeating that statement every time the question is brought up to them. If they are going to port the game don't expect to hear about it anytime near the release of the game on the PC.tenaka2

Indeed, they keep the news for E3 to get maximum exposure

When is e3?

June

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#91 Hatiko
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They aren't gonna say anything about a console version at e3. It would be too soon after the release of it on pc.

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#92 ducati101
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Looks like TC hasn't gotten over the fact that TUF II got cancelled on 360. It's PC and PS3 only now.
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I like RPGS but I found the witcher to be boring. Couldn't get passed the second chapter if I remember.

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#94 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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I like RPGS but I found the witcher to be boring. Couldn't get passed the second chapter if I remember.

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It really picks up after chapter II.
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#95 lawlessx
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Looks like TC hasn't gotten over the fact that TUF II got cancelled on 360. It's PC and PS3 only now.ducati101
360 version got canned? Not suprising..microsoft was giving the developers a hard time
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#96 Puckhog04
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Keep hoping I suppose. The original was trying to get a console release as well but they cancelled it when Witcher on PC sold so well.

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#97 skrat_01
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pretty much this.

CDProjekt should leave the RPG's to the pros.

SkyWard20

TW2's branching narrative.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XAhI5JEp7wk/TOa9h2mbt9I/AAAAAAAAACM/bBkKOgfmRjA/s1600/the-witcher-2-tech-dete7m4.jpg

Quite frankly the likes of Bioware and Bethesda should be taking notes from these amateurs.

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#98 skrat_01
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Keep hoping I suppose. The original was trying to get a console release as well but they cancelled it when Witcher on PC sold so well.

Puckhog04
It actually had to do more with the outsourced development, followed by focusing resources on TW2. I wouldn't be surprised if we see the game on the 360 and or PS3 months after the PC release.
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#99 Vadamee
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[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]

pretty much this.

CDProjekt should leave the RPG's to the pros.

skrat_01

TW2's branching narrative.

Quite frankly the likes of Bioware and Bethesda should be taking notes from these amateurs.

Now show us narrative branches for ME and ES so that we can compare and contrast. Until then, your insinuations are baseless. CDProjekt could learn from Bioware and Bethesda on how to craft an intriguing story with decent combat.

From Gamespot: "Could have done a better job introducing the new combat mechanics; Odd dialogue and somewhat cheesy voice acting."

Furthermore, I would like to see CDProjekt craft a story that spands three games have every decision that you made in the past games mold the story in future games. Comparing these guys to Bioware just isn't fair in my opinion.

Like most PC gamers, they prefer quantity over quality.

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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"] I take it you never played the witcher a decent amount of time i.e past the prolouge.SkyWard20

If he wants it on 360, it probably means hes never played it at all. Not saying it as an insult, just a likely chance. Anyone who has played it, would know Witcher 2 is going to own Skyrim and ME3. 8)

Two things you got wrong.

If Skyrim will be anything like ES4 or FO3 then it'll be garbage.