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#51 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="ZIVX"]

So no news of Xenoblade :cry:

jasonharris48

I think it will see a overseas release.

Wasn't it first revealed at E3? It should be coming then, unless the game didn't do well in sales for Japan?

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Oh, it's just NIS.... Unless it's disgaea all their games are shovelware.
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#53 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="ZIVX"]

So no news of Xenoblade :cry:

Wanderer5

I think it will see a overseas release.

Wasn't it first revealed at E3? It should be coming then, unless the game didn't do well in sales for Japan?

I think it sold well in JPN but I'm not so sure though.

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#54 jasonharris48
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Oh, it's just NIS.... Unless it's disgaea all their games are shovelware.Fightingfan
I take it you didn't read anything Finalstar posted right?

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#55 Ravirr
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cant go wrong with that. Sounds good.

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#56 Lionheart08
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I wouldn't mind it if Laharl finally became the protagonist again in Disgaea 4.

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#57 yokofox33
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I'll most likely pick up Ar Tonelico 3 and Neptune. I have the J-version of Neptune, and from what I've played it's not all that great. Just very clunky, but the story has some potential. At least I hope so.

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#58 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]Oh, it's just NIS.... Unless it's disgaea all their games are shovelware.jasonharris48

I take it you didn't read anything Finalstar posted right?

Yup, Disgea 4 and 3 no name games and 4 DS games.
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#59 JLF1
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]Oh, it's just NIS.... Unless it's disgaea all their games are shovelware.Fightingfan

I take it you didn't read anything Finalstar posted right?

Yup, Disgea 4 and 3 no name games and 4 DS games.



Kind of harsh words from someone who's into niche fighting games.

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#60 Loco_Live
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▲ Will they change the storys and gameplay? Because those are really what people dislike about JRPGs. Turn-based mechanic makes no sense. ▲

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#61 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] I take it you didn't read anything Finalstar posted right?

JLF1

Yup, Disgea 4 and 3 no name games and 4 DS games.



Kind of harsh words from someone who's into niche fighting games.

Street Fighter?

That's a house hold name. Ask anyone from the 80s.

Also that's just my opinion don't let it bother you I've never found anything NIS games enjoyable besides Disgaea and I doubt any of those games are going to be criticlally acclaimed.

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#62 JLF1
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▲ Will they change the storys and gameplay? Because those are really what people dislike about JRPGs. Turn-based mechanic makes no sense. ▲

Loco_Live



How does turn-based mechanics not make sense?

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#63 Wanderer5
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▲ Will they change the storys and gameplay? Because those are really what people dislike about JRPGs. Turn-based mechanic makes no sense. ▲

Loco_Live

Change the story from what? And what wrong withTurn-based?:? How does it not make sense?

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#64 JLF1
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Street Fighter?

That's a house hold name. Ask anyone from the 80s.

Also that's just my opinion don't let it bother you I've never found anything NIS games enjoyable besides Disgaea and I doubt any of those games are going to be criticlally acclaimed.

Fightingfan



I was more refering to games like MvsC2.

And Imageepoch's games have actually been given pretty good scores overall.

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#65 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ Will they change the storys and gameplay? Because those are really what people dislike about JRPGs. Turn-based mechanic makes no sense. ▲

Wanderer5

Change the story from what? And what wrong withTurn-based?:? How does it not make sense?

▲ I meant change the storys from the overly emotional, conveluted bullcrap that they usually are. Turn based doesn't make any sense because, in real life while in combat, you do not go by "turns". Is there turn based in Mass Effect? NOPE. I shoot whenever I feel like. ▲

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#66 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ Will they change the storys and gameplay? Because those are really what people dislike about JRPGs. Turn-based mechanic makes no sense. ▲

Loco_Live

Change the story from what? And what wrong withTurn-based?:? How does it not make sense?

▲ I meant change the storys from the overly emotional, conveluted bullcrap that they usually are. Turn based doesn't make any sense because, in real life while in combat, you do not go by "turns". Is there turn based in Mass Effect? NOPE. I shoot whenever I feel like. ▲

Is that seriously what you can come up with? These are games not real life lol.

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#67 JLF1
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▲ I meant change the storys from the overly emotional, conveluted bullcrap that they usually are. Turn based doesn't make any sense because, in real life while in combat, you do not go by "turns". Is there turn based in Mass Effect? NOPE. I shoot whenever I feel like. ▲

Loco_Live

No offence but you are not going to win an argument based on realism in games by bringing up Mass Effect.

And games like Kotor, Fallout and Civilization 5 are turn-based so I guess they are bad games as well.

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#68 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ I meant change the storys from the overly emotional, conveluted bullcrap that they usually are. Turn based doesn't make any sense because, in real life while in combat, you do not go by "turns". Is there turn based in Mass Effect? NOPE. I shoot whenever I feel like. ▲

JLF1

No offence but you are not going to win an argument based on realism in games by bringing up Mass Effect.

And games like Kotor, Fallout and Civilization 5 are turn-based so I guess they are bad games as well.

▲ I'm not trying to win a argument. I'm just stating what I dislike about JRPGS. ▲

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#69 JLF1
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▲ I'm not trying to win a argument. I'm just stating what I dislike about JRPGS. ▲

Loco_Live



So you hate JRPGs because the fighting isn't in real time? Yet you like Mass Effect that have turn-based debates instead.

They are just as unrealistic.

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#70 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ I meant change the storys from the overly emotional, conveluted bullcrap that they usually are. Turn based doesn't make any sense because, in real life while in combat, you do not go by "turns". Is there turn based in Mass Effect? NOPE. I shoot whenever I feel like. ▲

Loco_Live

No offence but you are not going to win an argument based on realism in games by bringing up Mass Effect.

And games like Kotor, Fallout and Civilization 5 are turn-based so I guess they are bad games as well.

▲ I'm not trying to win a argument. I'm just stating what I dislike about JRPGS. ▲

It seems you like action RPG like Mass Effect more which is fine, but to say Time-based doesn't make sense because it not like that in real life? Come on seriously.And Mass Effect is not that much realistic either.

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#71 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

No offence but you are not going to win an argument based on realism in games by bringing up Mass Effect.

And games like Kotor, Fallout and Civilization 5 are turn-based so I guess they are bad games as well.

Wanderer5

▲ I'm not trying to win a argument. I'm just stating what I dislike about JRPGS. ▲

It seems you like action RPG like Mass Effect more which is fine, but to say Time-based doesn't make sense because it not like that in real life? Come on seriously. It not like Mass Effect is that much realistic either.

▲ Well, I don't understand why all my characters can't attack at once. Why cant they just be defaulted to attack as soon as they engage an enemy. Most of the time in JRPGs your just pressing X over and over again anyways. And random encounters are also what I hate about it. How tedious is that. ▲

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#72 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

No offence but you are not going to win an argument based on realism in games by bringing up Mass Effect.

And games like Kotor, Fallout and Civilization 5 are turn-based so I guess they are bad games as well.

Wanderer5

▲ I'm not trying to win a argument. I'm just stating what I dislike about JRPGS. ▲

It seems you like action RPG like Mass Effect more which is fine, but to say Time-based doesn't make sense because it not like that in real life? Come on seriously.And Mass Effect is not that much realistic either.

▲ The combat system is. It makes much more sense. ▲

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#73 lazerface216
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isn't this thread from the same guy who was hyping artelier rorona? :lol:

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#74 Wanderer5
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▲ Well, I don't understand why all my characters can't attack at once. Why cant they just be defaulted to attack as soon as they engage an enemy. Most of the time in JRPGs your just pressing X over and over again anyways. ▲

Loco_Live

It turn based that how it works so you can control each party members on what to do, don't see how that doesn't make sense. And so what that you keep pressing one button? Turn based aren't meant to do combos and such.

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#75 Helghast_Merc
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[QUOTE="Helghast_Merc"]

I am thinking of getting Vesperia sometime next week. I heard that it's available for the Playstation 3 but only in Japan. Will they ever bring it here in the States?

NaveedLife

There are no plans of it currently. So I wouldn't count on it.

Chances seem to be slim to none :(. I am just hoping now that the new Tales of "exclusive" on coming to PS3 makes it outside of Japan.

That's a shame that the PS3 version more likely won't make it, but I can always make due with the Xbox 360 version. I plan to get it on Ebay new sometime next week.

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#76 Wanderer5
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▲ The combat system is. It makes much more sense. ▲

Loco_Live

Real time =/= realistic. The RPG genre is far from realistic.

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#77 LovePotionNo9
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Too bad, was hoping for Soma Bringer, Xenosaga Episodes I & II DS, Phantasy Star remakes, Xenoblade, Last Story, PS2 remakes of DQ4 & 5

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#78 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ Well, I don't understand why all my characters can't attack at once. Why cant they just be defaulted to attack as soon as they engage an enemy. Most of the time in JRPGs your just pressing X over and over again anyways. ▲

Wanderer5

It turn based that how it works so you can control each party members on what to do, don't see how that doesn't make sense. And so what that you keep pressing one button? Turn based aren't meant to do combos and such.

▲ Well, these are my problems with the genre. Unless they change it, I'm not gonna bother playing the games. ▲

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#79 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ Well, I don't understand why all my characters can't attack at once. Why cant they just be defaulted to attack as soon as they engage an enemy. Most of the time in JRPGs your just pressing X over and over again anyways. ▲

Loco_Live

It turn based that how it works so you can control each party members on what to do, don't see how that doesn't make sense. And so what that you keep pressing one button? Turn based aren't meant to do combos and such.

▲ Well, these are my problems with the genre. Unless they change it, I'm not gonna bother playing the games. ▲

Okay whatever, but you shouldn't compare games to real life (maybe beside the simulators), when they are meant for entertainment.

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#80 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ The combat system is. It makes much more sense. ▲

Wanderer5

Real time =/= realistic. The RPG genre is far from realistic.

▲ I'd say it's somewhat realistic. The more you do something in real life, the better you get. Hence the leveling up, the more you fight, the better at fighting you get. I would say Real time = realism. When you're fighting with a group of people irl, the world doesn't pause so you can give orders. ▲

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#81 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

It turn based that how it works so you can control each party members on what to do, don't see how that doesn't make sense. And so what that you keep pressing one button? Turn based aren't meant to do combos and such.

Wanderer5

▲ Well, these are my problems with the genre. Unless they change it, I'm not gonna bother playing the games. ▲

Okay whatever, but you shouldn't compare games to real life (maybe beside the simulators), when they are meant for entertainment.

▲ Why shouldn't I? Can't I find entertainment in reality? ▲

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#82 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ The combat system is. It makes much more sense. ▲

Loco_Live

Real time =/= realistic. The RPG genre is far from realistic.

▲ I'd say it's somewhat realistic. The more you do something in real life, the better you get. Hence the leveling up, the more you fight, the better at fighting you get. I would say Real time = realism. When you're fighting with a group of people irl, the world doesn't pause so you can give orders. ▲

I guess Kingdom Hearts is realistic then!:P

Oh and just saying, Black Rock Shooter looks to be a action RPG kinda like Mass Effect.

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#83 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ Well, these are my problems with the genre. Unless they change it, I'm not gonna bother playing the games. ▲

Loco_Live

Okay whatever, but you shouldn't compare games to real life (maybe beside the simulators), when they are meant for entertainment.

▲ Why shouldn't I? Can't I find entertainment in reality? ▲

Don't see the point since they weren't meant to be realistic, and that doesn't mean they don't make sense.

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#84 hayato_
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Targeting JRPG fans first and foremost is a weak strategy.

If they don't start trying to appeal to gamers that didn't grow up playing classic jrpgs the genre is going to continue to become more and more niche.

Juken7

Final Fantasy XIII did that and apparently people are pissed off for some reason.

Its bascially a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" sort of relationship. No one is going to be happy.

P.S. I feel bad for Final waiting on that Vesperia port. Really, its one of my favorite JRPGs this gen and one of the best in the "Tales of" series. Can't chose whether I like Vesperia, Abyss, or Destiny II (Eternia) better as my best.

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#85 finalfantasy94
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so far im only picking up disgea 4 and arc 3. I really wanna support diegea 4.

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#86 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ The combat system is. It makes much more sense. ▲

Loco_Live

Real time =/= realistic. The RPG genre is far from realistic.

▲ I'd say it's somewhat realistic. The more you do something in real life, the better you get. Hence the leveling up, the more you fight, the better at fighting you get. I would say Real time = realism. When you're fighting with a group of people irl, the world doesn't pause so you can give orders. ▲

Yea but with dragons,big ol monsters,demons,cat people,space alines,flying ships and far more stuff you kinda throw realism out the window in any type of rpg may it be wrpg or jrpg. THe combat is just what type of gameplay the game has. Some has actual control of a character full movements and some has the turn base which you pick and chose what to do by turn. It doesint make it any less real or more real.

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#87 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]Oh, it's just NIS.... Unless it's disgaea all their games are shovelware.Fightingfan

I take it you didn't read anything Finalstar posted right?

Yup, Disgea 4 and 3 no name games and 4 DS games.

Yea you missed the part about the PSP, PS3 titles being developed by Image Epoch.

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#88 jasonharris48
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▲ Will they change the storys and gameplay? Because those are really what people dislike about JRPGs. Turn-based mechanic makes no sense. ▲

Loco_Live

What do you mean turn base makes no sense. Turn based is better than real time any day of the week (speaking for both WRPGs and JRPGs).

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#89 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Meh, those all look generic to me.

jasonharris48

Didn't you like FFXIII?

Generic wasn't FFXIII's problem.

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#90 Luxen90
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]

Sigh, anything but Imageepoch games.

They are soo boring.

Shirokishi_

The Last Ranker and 7th Dragon are quite exceptional.

Sands of Destruction was also pretty damn good.

Sands of Destruction was wasted potential, had a decent premise, but ended up being garbage. Anyway, the only Imageepoch game I'll want to hear more about is Tale of the Last Promise.
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#91 Kashiwaba
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As long as they make some good games its welcomed also I'm still waiting for Bamco to start Localizing their tales games == at least tales of graces.

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#92 kairikh
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coolness tho im totally unfamiliar with imagepooch cant wait to c NIS stuff... :D thank uuu 4 the info, gaming god ^_^

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#93 spookykid143
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Meh, those all look generic to me.

hakanakumono

Didn't you like FFXIII?

Generic wasn't FFXIII's problem.

It's problem that it tried to be appeal to western audiences just give me a turn based battle system and i will be happy.

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#94 TheMoreYouOwn
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Eh. I'd prefer more wrpg's. Although if Japan makes more games like Demon's Souls, I'm on board.
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ Will they change the storys and gameplay? Because those are really what people dislike about JRPGs. Turn-based mechanic makes no sense. ▲

jasonharris48

What do you mean turn base makes no sense. Turn based is better than real time any day of the week (speaking for both WRPGs and JRPGs).

Not by a long shot. Real time is much better. It's just more fun all around. Demon's Souls is the perfect example of what combat should be like in rpg's.
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ Will they change the storys and gameplay? Because those are really what people dislike about JRPGs. Turn-based mechanic makes no sense. ▲

TheMoreYouOwn

What do you mean turn base makes no sense. Turn based is better than real time any day of the week (speaking for both WRPGs and JRPGs).

Not by a long shot. Real time is much better. It's just more fun all around. Demon's Souls is the perfect example of what combat should be like in rpg's.

real time action combat is nice but many people prefer the more strategic approach like turn based usually real time combat doesn't require much strategies.

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#97 TheMoreYouOwn
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[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] What do you mean turn base makes no sense. Turn based is better than real time any day of the week (speaking for both WRPGs and JRPGs).

Kashiwaba

Not by a long shot. Real time is much better. It's just more fun all around. Demon's Souls is the perfect example of what combat should be like in rpg's.

real time action combat is nice but many people prefer the more strategic approach like turn based usually real time combat doesn't require much strategies.

Play Demon's Souls and get back to me. Action + strategy.
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#98 DJ-Lafleur
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Meh, those all look generic to me.

hakanakumono

Didn't you like FFXIII?

Generic wasn't FFXIII's problem.

The worst thing about FFXIII was it's story, and even then I still don't think it's as bad as people say it is. I actually found it fairly enjoyable up until the first fight with Barthabdelous.

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#99 ShuichiChamp24
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I'll just get the imagepooch games, Nis really hasn't make an interesting or good game for me.

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#100 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] Didn't you like FFXIII?

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Generic wasn't FFXIII's problem.

It's problem that it tried to be appeal to western audiences just give me a turn based battle system and i will be happy.

I fail to see how Production team 1 tried to appeal to Western audiences with the gameplay concept found in FFXIII.