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#101 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@inb4uall said:

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I don't understand the "lol" in the thread title. The sales of Oculus, Morpheus, and the other one are all tied together. One being scene under a negative light is not a good sign for the other.

Oculus has facebook's $$$ and PC support. It nearly as dependant on the other two as they are on it. Lets not kid ourselves.

It doesn't matter. Consumer see a VR headset as a type of device. The popularity of the trend builds the market. Having one do okay and the others fail and/or receive negative press can be detrimental to the actual concept under the eyes of the consumer. For example, if some ingredient in a food is publicized as having some kind of possible health risk, then any other competitor also using the same ingredient is affected as well.

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#102 Midnightshade29
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@OhSnapitz said:
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Didn't cows get hype over this yet the Morpheus is bare bone at best. Your not going to see games with UT quality graphics on it.

PS2 games seem suitable

Keep trying. Your hope is someone will eat your bullshit if you try harder. Go out there and be someone!

..She's not alone. Even the link in the OP gave positive previews of PM. It seems PC gamers are yet again afraid of something that's on PC AND consoles.. go figure.

yep... This thread is the biggest pc only and (one masquerading lembot) circle jerk I have seen around here in a long time. That Valkyrie demo looked great, and will be fine for a new experience on consoles. What some of these guys who spend thousands of dollars on hardware don't get is that many people don't have the disposable income to invest in a setup that can play star citizen with VR. The Morpheus will, most likley (if sony is smart on price), release a vr headset that is affordable for everyone. That is the difference, and plug and play. Am I saying it will be successful? Who knows... but you guys are all just trolling fools to write something off...oh wait it supports your agenda.... lol...

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#103 Midnightshade29
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@nyadc said:

@OhSnapitz said:

..She's not alone. Even the link in the OP gave positive previews of PM. It seems PC gamers are yet again afraid of something that's on PC AND consoles.. go figure.

Afraid of what? A VR system on a 4 year old closed source plastic box? Your comment doesn't make any sense, VR has absolutely no future on the PlayStation 4.

Why do I get the feeling that if it was on XB1 you would be all for it....

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#104 NyaDC
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@Midnightshade29 said:

@nyadc said:

@OhSnapitz said:

..She's not alone. Even the link in the OP gave positive previews of PM. It seems PC gamers are yet again afraid of something that's on PC AND consoles.. go figure.

Afraid of what? A VR system on a 4 year old closed source plastic box? Your comment doesn't make any sense, VR has absolutely no future on the PlayStation 4.

Why do I get the feeling that if it was on XB1 you would be all for it....

Because you can't use rational thought and take my post exactly as it is. VR on a closed ecosystem of any kind is dumb and without future, not to mention it's on a weak console...

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#105 inb4uall
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@Heirren said:

@inb4uall said:

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I don't understand the "lol" in the thread title. The sales of Oculus, Morpheus, and the other one are all tied together. One being scene under a negative light is not a good sign for the other.

Oculus has facebook's $$$ and PC support. It nearly as dependant on the other two as they are on it. Lets not kid ourselves.

It doesn't matter. Consumer see a VR headset as a type of device. The popularity of the trend builds the market. Having one do okay and the others fail and/or receive negative press can be detrimental to the actual concept under the eyes of the consumer. For example, if some ingredient in a food is publicized as having some kind of possible health risk, then any other competitor also using the same ingredient is affected as well.

Forgive me if I disagree. VR isn't close to being mainstream and anyone who is interested in VR or more specifically the occulus is already going to be more educated than your average consumer on why it is or is not a good purchase.

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#106 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@inb4uall said:

@Heirren said:

@inb4uall said:

@Heirren said:

I don't understand the "lol" in the thread title. The sales of Oculus, Morpheus, and the other one are all tied together. One being scene under a negative light is not a good sign for the other.

Oculus has facebook's $$$ and PC support. It nearly as dependant on the other two as they are on it. Lets not kid ourselves.

It doesn't matter. Consumer see a VR headset as a type of device. The popularity of the trend builds the market. Having one do okay and the others fail and/or receive negative press can be detrimental to the actual concept under the eyes of the consumer. For example, if some ingredient in a food is publicized as having some kind of possible health risk, then any other competitor also using the same ingredient is affected as well.

Forgive me if I disagree. VR isn't close to being mainstream and anyone who is interested in VR or more specifically the occulus is already going to be more educated than your average consumer on why it is or is not a good purchase.

That is my point. The goal of all these manufacturers is to bring it to the masses--make it a mainstream "normal" device. Negativity around it will hinder any product in the category.

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#107  Edited By inb4uall
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@Heirren said:

@inb4uall said:

@Heirren said:

@inb4uall said:

@Heirren said:

I don't understand the "lol" in the thread title. The sales of Oculus, Morpheus, and the other one are all tied together. One being scene under a negative light is not a good sign for the other.

Oculus has facebook's $$$ and PC support. It nearly as dependant on the other two as they are on it. Lets not kid ourselves.

It doesn't matter. Consumer see a VR headset as a type of device. The popularity of the trend builds the market. Having one do okay and the others fail and/or receive negative press can be detrimental to the actual concept under the eyes of the consumer. For example, if some ingredient in a food is publicized as having some kind of possible health risk, then any other competitor also using the same ingredient is affected as well.

Forgive me if I disagree. VR isn't close to being mainstream and anyone who is interested in VR or more specifically the occulus is already going to be more educated than your average consumer on why it is or is not a good purchase.

That is my point. The goal of all these manufacturers is to bring it to the masses--make it a mainstream "normal" device. Negativity around it will hinder any product in the category.

Sonys failings aren't going to slow the VR fad anymore than they slowed down motion controls with their garbage PS move. It will get so little recognition that the mainstream isn't going to know it existed let alone that it failed.

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#108 l34052
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I see GS is populated entirely by console game developers who seem to know better than the makers of the headset and console, how about you all wait and see what they have instore before jumping on board the hate bandwagon.

Personally im hyped for the morpheus and the possibilities and games, i'll laugh even harder when everyone here who talked bad about it suddenly runs out and buys one declaring it the 'best thing ever!!'.

Kids these days, when will you learn....

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#109  Edited By NyaDC
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@l34052 said:

I see GS is populated entirely by console game developers who seem to know better than the makers of the headset and console, how about you all wait and see what they have instore before jumping on board the hate bandwagon.

Personally im hyped for the morpheus and the possibilities and games, i'll laugh even harder when everyone here who talked bad about it suddenly runs out and buys one declaring it the 'best thing ever!!'.

Kids these days, when will you learn....

1.6Ghz CPU, HD7850 in a box with no user created content of any kind, come back down to reality.

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@Heirren said:

@inb4uall said:

@Heirren said:

I don't understand the "lol" in the thread title. The sales of Oculus, Morpheus, and the other one are all tied together. One being scene under a negative light is not a good sign for the other.

Oculus has facebook's $$$ and PC support. It nearly as dependant on the other two as they are on it. Lets not kid ourselves.

It doesn't matter. Consumer see a VR headset as a type of device. The popularity of the trend builds the market. Having one do okay and the others fail and/or receive negative press can be detrimental to the actual concept under the eyes of the consumer. For example, if some ingredient in a food is publicized as having some kind of possible health risk, then any other competitor also using the same ingredient is affected as well.

Not really. On PC? Sure. But failure of Morpheus won't do anything negative to a potential success or failure of VR on PC. In fact, it's weakness might strenghten people's desire to try VR on PC, too see how it will look when it's pulled off properly.

Morpheus being bad will do as much damage to Oculous as LG Prada's suckiness did to iPhone.

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@Heirren said:

I don't understand the "lol" in the thread title. The sales of Oculus, Morpheus, and the other one are all tied together. One being scene under a negative light is not a good sign for the other.

No they are not tied together, Occulus can run on some seriously powerful hardware which means you can Take virtually any Game and Make it VR, you Will NOT see games on the same graphics Level as Killzone, Uncharted or Bloodborne on the Ps4 because it would require nearly twice the amount of power to run the game and these games already push Consoles to there limits.

theres a huge difference between being able to play high end AAA titles on VR and only being able to play Mediocre Kinect style games on VR.

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#112 blackace
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and then naughty dog steps in and proves everyone wrong

I don't think Naughty Dog is working on any VR games. They are too busy trying to get Uncharter 4 to look as good as it's reveal. Sony will probably release a couple 1st party games for it, but I'm not expecting many games for this thing right out of the gate. Every game made will need to be a homerun for anyone to be interested in spending the extra $200+ to buy the device.

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#113 360ru13r
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Didn't even need to read to already know why VR would not survive. Most developers are kinda lazy to be honest. I mean seriously the best idea there ever was for the Kinect was a dancing game. No one could make a decent fighting game or even something like an on rails shooter (I don't count Fable Legends) So yeah VR like the eye toy, Kinect, power glove, DDR dance pads, Rock Band and Guitar Hero equipment, duck hunt gun, and any other accessory will be sitting in the corner collecting dust.

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#114  Edited By DocSanchez
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I bet you people would have scoffed when the NES was announced. "What? It's not got HD graphics and isn't even capable of real 3D LOL!"

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#115  Edited By Daious
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@sSubZerOo said:

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Honestly, I wish sony would release it on PC.

But lol at the developer thinking its only going to cost 200 dollars.

.. What makes Morpheus different from the other handful of vr's on the horizon like Valves or the Rift?

competitive pricing.

More competition the better it will be for consumers.

Uhh we have like nearly half a dozen different VR's to choose from on the pc platform.. Valve's HTC Vive, Occulus Rift, Razer's VR, Samsung's VR, as well as others on the horizon... Having another headset in the market is going to have a radical impact in the field.

As I said... The more competition the better.

Valves, Facebooks, and Sony. Samsung is using Facebook's tech.

As far as developers have been saying from 2014, sony's device is on par with OR. If they can keep competing, then a VR war would only help consumers.

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#116 darkangel115
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I love how all people on forums are suddenly experts. I highly doubt the device won't work. companies spend tons of money in R&D and advertising and planning. You think they wake up one day and say lets make a VR device? Of course the device will work, the issue is will there be anything good for it. it's the same thing with kinect, it's a great device, but it lacks any meaningful software support because people weren't buying the games for it and most of them sucked. If sony wants it to be successful they need to make games for it themselves, and a lot of them. Of course that means funding them and throwing lots of money around but 3rd party devs aren't going to support it until they see people will buy games for it.

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#117  Edited By lamprey263
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Well, not a total bust, someone maybe can swoop in and buy its patents cheap in the end.

I'm telling you, whoever creates their VR in tandem with the first virtual strip club and adult erotic entertainment is going to make bank on this. Porn will crown the king of VR, just as it did during the Blu-ray and VHS format wars.

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#118 BobRossPerm
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@inb4uall said:

@Heirren said:

@inb4uall said:

@Heirren said:

@inb4uall said:

@Heirren said:

I don't understand the "lol" in the thread title. The sales of Oculus, Morpheus, and the other one are all tied together. One being scene under a negative light is not a good sign for the other.

Oculus has facebook's $$$ and PC support. It nearly as dependant on the other two as they are on it. Lets not kid ourselves.

It doesn't matter. Consumer see a VR headset as a type of device. The popularity of the trend builds the market. Having one do okay and the others fail and/or receive negative press can be detrimental to the actual concept under the eyes of the consumer. For example, if some ingredient in a food is publicized as having some kind of possible health risk, then any other competitor also using the same ingredient is affected as well.

Forgive me if I disagree. VR isn't close to being mainstream and anyone who is interested in VR or more specifically the occulus is already going to be more educated than your average consumer on why it is or is not a good purchase.

That is my point. The goal of all these manufacturers is to bring it to the masses--make it a mainstream "normal" device. Negativity around it will hinder any product in the category.

Sonys failings aren't going to slow the VR fad anymore than they slowed down motion controls with their garbage PS move. It will get so little recognition that the mainstream isn't going to know it existed let alone that it failed.

Well shit I wish you told Sony that before they bothered investing into it.