Mortal Kombat is the best fighting game this gen

It is pretty bad imo. It isn't anything like the old Mortal Kombats, it is basically the crappy 3D fighters we've been getting for the past 10 years just from a side view. I hate that slow mo xray move.. It takes away from the impact of fatalities because what is so satisfying about cutting a guys head off when you've shoved ice picks into his eyes 3 times already? and it gets so annoying seeing them over and over and over again..

Plus the constant teleporting is so stupid. The combat is just about learning long button combos, not very fun. It could have been but they just did to many things wrong to make it enjoyable.

VendettaRed07

Some of your complaints aren't meshing up.

You say it isn't anything like old MK like that's a negative, but then go on to say constant teleporting is stupid and that its all about learning long combos. Thing is, every Kombat game since MK3 has been about dialing in combos and UMK3 had the most ridiculous teleport spam tactics in the series. As a matter of fact this game tries to break the dial a combo trend by actually giving you freedom to make your own from the little bits of combos they give you.

So unless you mean Mortal Kombat pre-MK3 then you're just wrong. That leaves us with MK and MK2. MK is a painfully slow, shallow game where each character has the same exact move set + a couple of specials. MK2 is the same thing, but a little faster and some floaty mechanics that allow for some very primitive juggle combos.

The only thing I can agree with is the Xray moves and even then its not for the same reasons. They simply do too much damage and take you out of the fight. Impact of fatalities? Come on, fatalities always get old fast. At least this time you aren't left with a completely shallow experience afterwards.

Probably hasn't played it. Pretty much every MK game has had gameplay ranging from bad to mediocre/average at best. Most people just assume the new MK is more of the same when its not.

sandbox3d

The story mode in Mortal Kombat 9 is the best story mode in a fighting game, ever, since their conception (though the ending kind of sucked, left me empty). But i don't like the fighting mechanics, at all, they just do not feel right to me.

So, putting aside the story mode, i have to say that my favorite fighting game of this generation is Super Street Fighter 4, and soon after i get my hands on KoF XIII, i'm gonna see what that is all about.

I agree 100%, it's perfect in every single way, well the online could have used a few dedicated servers as some people have bad connections. But the core gameplay and features are perfect! Smoke FTW!

Oh and Scorpion >>> Sub Zero, FACT! Deal with it!

ShadowMoses900

I always thought that Sub Zero and Scorpion were the poster boys of the Mortal Kombat series, though i am aware that the original Sub Zero died off either at the end of MK1 or MK2? I don't remember.

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]But the fighting mechanics are bad.sandbox3d

Probably hasn't played it. Pretty much every MK game has had gameplay ranging from bad to mediocre/average at best. Most people just assume the new MK is more of the same when its not.

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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] ho so ?ActionRemix

Probably hasn't played it. Pretty much every MK game has had gameplay ranging from bad to mediocre/average at best. Most people just assume the new MK is more of the same when its not.

What did you think of the story.

King of Fighters XIII, for me.

MK9 is my second favorite though.

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

Probably hasn't played it. Pretty much every MK game has had gameplay ranging from bad to mediocre/average at best. Most people just assume the new MK is more of the same when its not.

Lucianu

What did you think of the story.

@Lucianu and ActionRemix.

Cool, I see were you guys are coming from then. Guess I forgot the context of the thread. The mechanics are outstanding for an MK game, but do pale in comparison to "real" fighters (you know what I mean).

Its still probably my 5th favorite fighter this gen though. :P

Tekken X Streetfighter "even though its not even out" has already took that title

Chris_Williams

Isn't that the one where you buy DLC to make your character better? If so, no thanks, by default.

***Also, SSF4 just isn't street fighter anymore.

I'm gonna disagree and say KOF XIII is, but I MK is definitely awesome.

Shenmue_Jehuty

Yea im sorry but I have to disagree, My personal favorite would have to be Soul Calibur 4 followed by Super Street Fighter 4 then Mortal Kombat.

I'm gonna disagree and say KOF XIII is, but I MK is definitely awesome.

Shenmue_Jehuty

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I'm gonna disagree and say KOF XIII is, but I MK is definitely awesome.

dr-professional

[QUOTE="dr-professional"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

I'm gonna disagree and say KOF XIII is, but I MK is definitely awesome.

nini200

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

I'm gonna disagree and say KOF XIII is, but I MK is definitely awesome.

nini200

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[QUOTE="dr-professional"] LOl WTF? Kof hasn;t been good since freaking Neo-Geo. The series baely sales for a reason. Xii is better than the last few but good greif man the game lack polish in so many areas. Now as a game it's good, but not as good as MK. BTW one person said Tekken X Street fighter. Im sorry but incomplete broken fighters and a company that likes spamming full retail releases of the same game with like one new character for full price are not better than MK.dr-professional

Man, this game is awesome. The graphics are great, Story mode is superb, and it is well balanced. Anyone Agree?Snyper007-2

Nope. Mortal Kombat is the fighter with the best story, and best 'comeback from a declining series' this gen. However, it is nowhere close to being the best fighter in terms of balance or fighting mechanics. From a mechanic standpoint, either Street Fighter 4 or Tekken 6 takes the crown.

[QUOTE="nini200"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

I'm gonna disagree and say KOF XIII is, but I MK is definitely awesome.

dr-professional

MK has surely raised the bar when it come to content and story telling in a fighting game. I will accept nothing less in those criteria for future fighting games now.... unless it has extremely tight and responsive combat which for me only leaves Virtua Fighter, DOA and GG.

[QUOTE="dr-professional"][QUOTE="nini200"] Contradiction Spotted!!! :idea:

nini200

Won't lie, I am in 100% agreement here.

The fighting is slick and perfect, with a great balance but unique distinction between characters. TONS of variety as well (in environments, modes, characters, secrets, unlocks and maps), great graphics, fun online, addicting ladder, etc.

The only flaw against it are the terrible bosses. They are just so terrible to fight, with horribly overpowered moves and health, which throw your previous fighting and skill out the window in favor of having to time them for cheap shots and jumping/teleporting around instead of utilizing your skill set like you should.

[QUOTE="nini200"][QUOTE="dr-professional"] No its not. Did you just start gaming this gen? Every KOF series game always earns a "good rating" on Neo Geo. Also as a KOF game, the later game are bad, but as a fighting game its good. I mean that should be obvious but hey. You know nothing about the series.dr-professional

MK9 is a great game, and a huge improvement on the MK series in general, but it's still got issues.

1. The block button does not belong in 2D Fighters, period, end of story. Reasons for this should be beyond obvious.

2. The balancing could be a lot better, but they're getting there.

3. Netcode is kind of bad.

4. Special moves need to recognize 8-way inputs. This isn't the early 1990's anymore.

It's a good game (even a great game), and NetherRealm clearly put a ton of work into it, but it needs to step it up again if it actually wants to compete with the big dogs, though.

Wow where is the love for Soul Calibur????????????????

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

It is pretty bad imo. It isn't anything like the old Mortal Kombats, it is basically the crappy 3D fighters we've been getting for the past 10 years just from a side view. I hate that slow mo xray move.. It takes away from the impact of fatalities because what is so satisfying about cutting a guys head off when you've shoved ice picks into his eyes 3 times already? and it gets so annoying seeing them over and over and over again..

Plus the constant teleporting is so stupid. The combat is just about learning long button combos, not very fun. It could have been but they just did to many things wrong to make it enjoyable.

sandbox3d

Some of your complaints aren't meshing up.

You say it isn't anything like old MK like that's a negative, but then go on to say constant teleporting is stupid and that its all about learning long combos. Thing is, every Kombat game since MK3 has been about dialing in combos and UMK3 had the most ridiculous teleport spam tactics in the series. As a matter of fact this game tries to break the dial a combo trend by actually giving you freedom to make your own from the little bits of combos they give you.

So unless you mean Mortal Kombat pre-MK3 then you're just wrong. That leaves us with MK and MK2. MK is a painfully slow, shallow game where each character has the same exact move set + a couple of specials. MK2 is the same thing, but a little faster and some floaty mechanics that allow for some very primitive juggle combos.

The only thing I can agree with is the Xray moves and even then its not for the same reasons. They simply do too much damage and take you out of the fight. Impact of fatalities? Come on, fatalities always get old fast. At least this time you aren't left with a completely shallow experience afterwards.

I wasn't really big on MK3, but the teleporting wasn't like, constant or as annoying as it is now. I thought it could be pretty decent with out that but whenever I played online that is all anyone did over and over again. It got really annoying. The character selection isn't great either. Just there are a lot of design issues with it at pretty much every corner imo.

Mortal Kombat 2 was great, it had its issues but I would have prefered for them to build off of that. It always seemed sort of like a 2D bushido blade almost, you had to kind of take your time and anticipate. I think for a fighting game about fighting to the death would be better off slow paced and the objective is just trying to land a fatal blow.

Though that would be my preference, Im not opposed to the fast paced mortal kombat but I just think they do it wrong, and they keep doing it wrong. They are just always pretty cheap and not much fun unless you are just playing with a few friends who don't really know how to play then its enjoyable, but its flaws are exposed so much online its ridiculous.

LOL great balance. Kung Lao says no to that.

1. The block button does not belong in 2D Fighters, period, end of story. Reasons for this should be beyond obvious.

DarkLink77

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[QUOTE="nini200"] It's a reason SNK put so much time and effort into making KOF 13 great. And it is paying off BIGTIME. I've been playing fighting games probably since before you were born. Everything from Aggressors of Dark Kombat to Savage Reign to Kizuna Encounter to Breakers all the way up to Rage of the Dragons, Tokon Martimelee, MK, KI, Eternal Champions, Samurai Shodown to KOF. DreamCancel just revived Drive Cancel Radio if you even know what that is. You should really listen to that before you comment on KOF's success.nini200

MK9 is a great game, and a huge improvement on the MK series in general, but it's still got issues.

1. The block button does not belong in 2D Fighters, period, end of story. Reasons for this should be beyond obvious.

2. The balancing could be a lot better, but they're getting there.

3. Netcode is kind of bad.

4. Special moves need to recognize 8-way inputs. This isn't the early 1990's anymore.

It's a good game (even a great game), and NetherRealm clearly put a ton of work into it, but it needs to step it up again if it actually wants to compete with the big dogs, though.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="Snyper007-2"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]sure thing..untill DOA5 comes outOneSanitarium

DOA5 wont have breast jiggle.

BlazBlue > Every other fighting game this gen. Thanks for trying.meconate

This...until KOF XIII, seriously that game is one of the best 2D fighters ever made.

But Blazblue is on a close second, that's for sure, MK cannot even beggin to compare to this 2 games in terms of gameplay, comparing Mortal Kombat to Blazblue or KOF XIII in terms of gameplay is like comparing Mario Kart 64 with Forza 4 in terms of graphics.

Wow where is the love for Soul Calibur????????????????

gamespot4life

Easily the best fighting game i've ever played in my life. And people who think the fighting mechanics are bad, or the game is all about gore and fatalities haven't played MK9. I tried playing Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, and that game is a joke. MickeyTheNinja

[QUOTE="MickeyTheNinja"]Easily the best fighting game i've ever played in my life. And people who think the fighting mechanics are bad, or the game is all about gore and fatalities haven't played MK9. I tried playing Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, and that game is a joke. dr-professional

Easily the best fighting game i've ever played in my life. And people who think the fighting mechanics are bad, or the game is all about gore and fatalities haven't played MK9. I tried playing Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, and that game is a joke. MickeyTheNinja

I have...and the fact that exist an X-RAy move whose only purpose is to show me a gory move is proof enough that underneath the gore...there is a mediocre fighting game at best.

I completely agree. Fighting games are a genre which are less prominent than they used to be, but this one genuinely had me enthralled. Liking KOF 13 too so far.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

MK9 is a great game, and a huge improvement on the MK series in general, but it's still got issues.

1. The block button does not belong in 2D Fighters, period, end of story. Reasons for this should be beyond obvious.

2. The balancing could be a lot better, but they're getting there.

3. Netcode is kind of bad.

4. Special moves need to recognize 8-way inputs. This isn't the early 1990's anymore.

It's a good game (even a great game), and NetherRealm clearly put a ton of work into it, but it needs to step it up again if it actually wants to compete with the big dogs, though.

dr-professional

MK doesn't have great balance. The clowns at NRS have some pretty bad knee jerk reactions and try to change everything they can without any real thought. They ended up buffing Jax every single update and now hes pretty high tier. Them patching the game alot is also pretty bad for it, since characters change way too much. The block button takes away from mixup, and teleports aren't very fast at all.

The whole throw at Darklinks 1990's comment doesn't make sense, since MK isn't realistic at all. Just because it Isn't the 1990's doesn't mean something can't be realistic, I'd argue fighting games not being realistic make them more fun.