[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It's not so much their death as what their death means to Niko. Before the last mission, he's out, and he had hope. Afterwards, he's a completely broken man. I think that's pretty depressing. That's different. If you were actually on the side of a losing battle in Reach, you'd be dead halfway through the game. You don't really start losing until about halfway in, and then I think it sells it pretty good. StarCraft II sells is well, I agree, and I know what mission you're referring to, but it's easier in StarCraft. In StarCraft, I can lose a ton of units and barely hold my base and "win" the mission. In shooters, you can't "lose" and still progress, because losing means you die, unless you just resort to "hold this position for the whole game, but you never can so you have to retreat" missions for the whole game. I think they should have pulled an ODST in Reach, and let you switch between the whole squad. That way the characters could have been developed more and you could have played their deaths. You don't need to actually kill off the player to sell that notion(although sure even Modern Warfare did that crap better). The Starcraft 2 example is all that needs to be said, or even something like Mass Effect 3s missions on Palavin which sold the notion of a larger scaled fight, and a losing battle so much better than Reach ever did. You can't have me playing retreat in Halo? you couldn't come up with any other gameplay scenario that went beyond "hey go press this button" or "go take out this turrett or AA gun" ...and then give me a lame cutscene? Forget the notion that they took a big ass scaled concept, and toned it down to this hack job of a confined story. F*cking incompetent apes. You play retreat in the first and last mission of Reach. :| And again, it's a point-of-view issue. Um bullsh1t. The first mission is grab your buddies, get into that one building, and then go after some zealots. You retreat for like a second at best. And the last mission? You mean the part where I fought off a bunch of brutes, and then like 5 elite zealots to use this big cannon to kill off corvettes, and then yeah great one epilogue that actually justifies what Reach should be aiming for. Nothing about that game is depressing beyond how pansy Bungie was in terms of pulling punches. Getting depressed at that sh1t is like getting depressed at an episode of Sesame Street.
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] You don't need to actually kill off the player to sell that notion(although sure even Modern Warfare did that crap better). The Starcraft 2 example is all that needs to be said, or even something like Mass Effect 3s missions on Palavin which sold the notion of a larger scaled fight, and a losing battle so much better than Reach ever did. You can't have me playing retreat in Halo? you couldn't come up with any other gameplay scenario that went beyond "hey go press this button" or "go take out this turrett or AA gun" ...and then give me a lame cutscene? Forget the notion that they took a big ass scaled concept, and toned it down to this hack job of a confined story. F*cking incompetent apes. You play retreat in the first and last mission of Reach. :| And again, it's a point-of-view issue. Um bullsh1t. The first mission is grab your buddies, get into that one building, and then go after some zealots. You retreat for like a second at best. And the last mission? You mean the part where I fought off a bunch of brutes, and then like 5 elite zealots to use this big cannon to kill off corvettes, and then yeah great one epilogue that actually justifies what Reach should be aiming for. Nothing about that game is depressing beyond how pansy Bungie was in terms of pulling punches. Getting depressed at that sh1t is like getting depressed at an episode of Sesame Street. You retreat into that building and you have to hold it for two minutes. Against an infinite number of dudes. And did you forget the bit in Pillar of Autumn where there are literally Scarabs dropping from the sky and trying to kill you?
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] You play retreat in the first and last mission of Reach. :| And again, it's a point-of-view issue. Um bullsh1t. The first mission is grab your buddies, get into that one building, and then go after some zealots. You retreat for like a second at best. And the last mission? You mean the part where I fought off a bunch of brutes, and then like 5 elite zealots to use this big cannon to kill off corvettes, and then yeah great one epilogue that actually justifies what Reach should be aiming for. Nothing about that game is depressing beyond how pansy Bungie was in terms of pulling punches. Getting depressed at that sh1t is like getting depressed at an episode of Sesame Street. You retreat into that building and you have to hold it for two minutes. Against an infinite number of dudes. And did you forget the bit in Pillar of Autumn where there are literally Scarabs dropping from the sky and trying to kill you? You mean the things I can't interact with beyond a chase sequence? and then watch Carter jihad into? Seriously bro?
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Um bullsh1t. The first mission is grab your buddies, get into that one building, and then go after some zealots. You retreat for like a second at best. And the last mission? You mean the part where I fought off a bunch of brutes, and then like 5 elite zealots to use this big cannon to kill off corvettes, and then yeah great one epilogue that actually justifies what Reach should be aiming for. Nothing about that game is depressing beyond how pansy Bungie was in terms of pulling punches. Getting depressed at that sh1t is like getting depressed at an episode of Sesame Street. jg4xchamp
You retreat into that building and you have to hold it for two minutes. Against an infinite number of dudes. And did you forget the bit in Pillar of Autumn where there are literally Scarabs dropping from the sky and trying to kill you? You mean the things I can't interact with beyond a chase sequence? and then watch Carter jihad into? Seriously bro? Um... they actively shoot at you and can kill you. You could probably fight them if you weren't surrounded, but I've never tried it, mostly because I was playing the game on Legendary and that last mission was hard enough, thank you very much. Especially that last section. Dear God.
Assassins Creed 3... because of the epilogue with Connor. He did this all for his people, and what does he get? The same people he aided to win the war have now forced his people west.. And on top of that their is no true "freedom "at the end as ships arrive with black slaves. That hunter guy at the end was right, the founding fathers really were "clever men".
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] You retreat into that building and you have to hold it for two minutes. Against an infinite number of dudes. And did you forget the bit in Pillar of Autumn where there are literally Scarabs dropping from the sky and trying to kill you?DarkLink77
You mean the things I can't interact with beyond a chase sequence? and then watch Carter jihad into? Seriously bro? Um... they actively shoot at you and can kill you. You could probably fight them if you weren't surrounded, but I've never tried it, mostly because I was playing the game on Legendary and that last mission was hard enough, thank you very much. Especially that last section. Dear God. For the rcord, you can't fight them. They just walk off.
Anywho, for me the entire Bioshock series (1, 2, and the prequel book). Really just plays at the heartstrings, to me the Delta/ Elanor relationship in 2 really pulled at the heartstrings for me (intro cutscene for example). Also, the prequel book Bioshock:Rapture really gives more charecters some time to devlop that we only hear from radio diaries. Mcdonagh is a protaginst (id say at least) in the book. And his journey is really heart wrenching. The book does such a great job seeing the fal of rapture through a normal man eyes. Gives it that much more depth and meaning, on top of an already deep game series.
I really liked the Darkness, and I see it is being mentioned here, along with Spec Ops: The Line, and Silent Hill: Homecoming. I know they weren't rated as high, but I am thinking of giving them a try if they have a good depressing story. My question for Spec Ops: The Line, how deep is the story? or is it mostly. "We are Americans = good. Arabs= bad. We kill Arabs and "liberate" the country." My question for Silent Hill: Homecoming, is it depressing just because you are alone against ghosts etc, or there is some deep twisted/ sad story there?
My question for Spec Ops: The Line, how deep is the story? or is it mostly. "We are Americans = good. Arabs= bad. We kill Arabs and "liberate" the country."dramaybaz
Spec Ops: The Line could not possibly be further from what you described. The game's a savage deconstruction of the modern military shooter.
[QUOTE="dramaybaz"] My question for Spec Ops: The Line, how deep is the story? or is it mostly. "We are Americans = good. Arabs= bad. We kill Arabs and "liberate" the country."PannicAtack
Spec Ops: The Line could not possibly be further from what you described. The game's a savage deconstruction of the modern military shooter. Great, that is what I wanted to hear. But didn't not want to look up the story in order to avoid spoilers.
[QUOTE="dramaybaz"] My question for Spec Ops: The Line, how deep is the story? or is it mostly. "We are Americans = good. Arabs= bad. We kill Arabs and "liberate" the country."dramaybaz
Spec Ops: The Line could not possibly be further from what you described. The game's a savage deconstruction of the modern military shooter. Great, that is what I wanted to hear. But didn't not want to look up the story in order to avoid spoilers. Trust me, its different. Just be sure to stick through the first hour or so though, the game only reveals its true colours after that. Anyway, NiER definitely gets my vote. Its like they specifically tried to create the most depressing game world with the most depressing situations ever, you also truly feel like a monster after the second playthrough and it just gets worse with the two endings you can unlock after that.
GTA IV had a pretty depressing conclusion, but only if... [spoiler] You take the deal with Dimitri, which leads to Roman getting killed on his wedding day. The only bit of family he had in the city, and the one person aside from Jacob who was with him during the rougher parts of the storyline. The ending of that choice implied that it wasn't going to get any easier for Niko on an emotional level. Compare that to choosing to kill Dimitri instead on the ship, which would lead to Kate getting killed on Roman's wedding day. Kate was a minor character, and an awkward one at that. Her death had a small impact, and the ending's a bit more satisfying knowing you have both Roman and Jacob by your side. [/spoiler]
[QUOTE="dramaybaz"] My question for Spec Ops: The Line, how deep is the story? or is it mostly. "We are Americans = good. Arabs= bad. We kill Arabs and "liberate" the country."PannicAtack
Spec Ops: The Line could not possibly be further from what you described. The game's a savage deconstruction of the modern military shooter. Indeed it's a complete subversion of what dramaybaz thinks it is. Hell, it doesn't just have a go pulling apart the modern shooter, but games as we typically know it.
If it is strictly story line, then Amnesia or Heavy Rain take the cake by far.
I know people are mentioning RDR, GTA and The Darkness but I feel like it was mostly one scene that had an impact, as opposed to the entire story line. Though Majoras Mask and Silent Hill 2 will forever be the most depressing games ever.
[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]GTA IV had a pretty depressing conclusion, but only if... [spoiler] You take the deal with Dimitri, which leads to Roman getting killed on his wedding day. The only bit of family he had in the city, and the one person aside from Jacob who was with him during the rougher parts of the storyline. The ending of that choice implied that it wasn't going to get any easier for Niko on an emotional level. Compare that to choosing to kill Dimitri instead on the ship, which would lead to Kate getting killed on Roman's wedding day. Kate was a minor character, and an awkward one at that. Her death had a small impact, and the ending's a bit more satisfying knowing you have both Roman and Jacob by your side. [/spoiler] 100% Agreed, [spoiler] Both endings made me feel i did the wrong thing but i still let kate die [/spoiler]
GTA IV had a pretty depressing conclusion, but only if... [spoiler] You take the deal with Dimitri, which leads to Roman getting killed on his wedding day. The only bit of family he had in the city, and the one person aside from Jacob who was with him during the rougher parts of the storyline. The ending of that choice implied that it wasn't going to get any easier for Niko on an emotional level. Compare that to choosing to kill Dimitri instead on the ship, which would lead to Kate getting killed on Roman's wedding day. Kate was a minor character, and an awkward one at that. Her death had a small impact, and the ending's a bit more satisfying knowing you have both Roman and Jacob by your side. [/spoiler] drinkerofjuice
That's the ending I was thinking of when I said GTA IV.
[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] omg.....ok but dark souls a bit morePinnacleGamingP
Atmosphere is not a storyline.
ok?
Read the title, asks about depressing stories. Dark Souls doesn't have a depressing story. Or even a sad one. It has a very harsh and unforgiving world alright. But you have no emotional ties to any of the characters, negating the possibility of it depressing you. It can make you feel uneasy at times or tense though
Read the title, asks about depressing stories. Dark Souls doesn't have a depressing story. Or even a sad one. It has a very harsh and unforgiving world alright. But you have no emotional ties to any of the characters, negating the possibility of it depressing you. It can make you feel uneasy at times or tense though
are you kidding? play the game again, the lack of anything-in-the-stpry and survive is what makes the story mood dep biter
Read the title, asks about depressing stories. Dark Souls doesn't have a depressing story. Or even a sad one. It has a very harsh and unforgiving world alright. But you have no emotional ties to any of the characters, negating the possibility of it depressing you. It can make you feel uneasy at times or tense though
are you kidding? play the game again, the lack of anything-in-the-stpry and survive is what makes the story mood dep biter
"Lack of anything in the story"?? The game has a huge deep story, what are you smoking? also "dep biter"? :?
Literally, I was a hard core CoD fan before MW2 came out. Why the fvck would the Russians invade the East Coast when the they are so close to Alaska. It would be impossible to attack the East Coast because of Great Britian. And don't even get me started on dropping a nuke on Washington DC.
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