It has to be Blizzard Entertainment. They made a few good games but one of their games became a fad in some foreign country and all of a sudden they are praised and ever since they have been as bad as EA.
What about yours?
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It has to be Blizzard Entertainment. They made a few good games but one of their games became a fad in some foreign country and all of a sudden they are praised and ever since they have been as bad as EA.
What about yours?
I want to say bungie, but they are talented. but still, they are overrated. rare too. organic_machine
I knew someone would say Rare. They are definately not, look at the games they made for the N64 and SNES:
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, 3
Donkey Kong 64
Banjo Kazooie and Tooie
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Star Fox and Star Fox 64
Every one of those games was either good or absolutely amazing.
It has to be Blizzard Entertainment. They made a few good games but one of their games became a fad in some foreign country and all of a sudden they are praised and ever since they have been as bad as EA.
What about yours?
CherryShooter
which game are you reffering to?
every game they have made has become a fad......they have gotten 3 GOTY awards here....and all but 2 of their games havent gotten AAA here.....
you are the one who keeps insisting that Starcraft 2 will flop...so Im not surprised you would make this thread.
UbisoftLatinoheat47
[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]Ubisofthamstergeddon
Not only one mistake but many crap ports and down in quality. They haven't done that great either, maybe PoP and SC. Which I don't find that great either. And other just ''ok'' games So I agree with him.
[QUOTE="organic_machine"]I want to say bungie, but they are talented. but still, they are overrated. rare too. sexy_chimp
I knew someone would say Rare. They are definately not, look at the games they made for the N64 and SNES:
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, 3
Donkey Kong 64
Banjo Kazooie and Tooie
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Star Fox and Star Fox 64
Every one of those games was either good or absolutely amazing.
Yes. Look at them in their glory days. Now look at PDZ. Look at it. Look at grabbed by the ghoulies. They have lost so much. Kameo and Viva were better. Hopefully banjo 3 will be good, but they are not the great great company they used to be. The old rare is dead.
Bungie.
Now, this doesn't mean I think they are a bad developer, I just think the praise they receive is a little higher than what they've actually earned.
I'd say Blizzard because they rarely release new IPs. Sure their games are great, but I'd love to see something new other than a new Warcraft or Starcraft every 3 or so years.PBSnipes
How canwe make things like Mario slide?
[QUOTE="organic_machine"]I want to say bungie, but they are talented. but still, they are overrated. rare too. sexy_chimp
I knew someone would say Rare. They are definately not, look at the games they made for the N64 and SNES:
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, 3
Donkey Kong 64
Banjo Kazooie and Tooie
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Star Fox and Star Fox 64
Every one of those games was either good or absolutely amazing.
...and look at the games theyve made since lolz
[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]I want to say bungie, but they are talented. but still, they are overrated. rare too. organic_machine
I knew someone would say Rare. They are definately not, look at the games they made for the N64 and SNES:
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, 3
Donkey Kong 64
Banjo Kazooie and Tooie
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Star Fox and Star Fox 64
Every one of those games was either good or absolutely amazing.
Yes. Look at them in their glory days. Now look at PDZ. Look at it. Look at grabbed by the ghoulies. They have lost so much. Kameo and Viva were better. Hopefully banjo 3 will be good, but they are not the great great company they used to be. The old rare is dead.
Everyone knows their not as good as they used to be, so their not over rated.
[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I'd say Blizzard because they rarely release new IPs. Sure their games are great, but I'd love to see something new other than a new Warcraft or Starcraft every 3 or so years.Zero_Fate_
How canwe make things like Mario slide?
Cause Nintendo makes new IPs.
[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Yes. Look at them in their glory days. Now look at PDZ. Look at it. Look at grabbed by the ghoulies. They have lost so much. Kameo and Viva were better. Hopefully banjo 3 will be good, but they are not the great great company they used to be. The old rare is dead.
sexy_chimp
Everyone knows their not as good as they used to be, so their not over rated.
When one simply ignores their failure like many lemmings do, thats when they become overrated. Therefore, they are overrated.
What? Blizzard and Bungie? I think you people are just throwing **** around.
Blizzard has proven it can go into any genre and come out ahead:
RPG - Diablo
RTS - Starcraft
RTS/RPG Elements - WC3
MMORPG - WOW (took the gaming world by storm, no?)
FPS - Starcraft Ghost (sadly canceled, but people I know who played the demo at Blizzcon said it was legit very enjoyable).
Seriously, Blizzard is an amazing developer. They are definitely not "over-rated".
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Bungie isn't over-rated, sorry. Hell guys, they made a AAA title in 9 months.
[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]Ubisofttegovoltio
Not only one mistake but many crap ports and down in quality. They haven't done that great either, maybe PoP and SC. Which I don't find that great either. And other just ''ok'' games So I agree with him.
[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]Yes. Look at them in their glory days. Now look at PDZ. Look at it. Look at grabbed by the ghoulies. They have lost so much. Kameo and Viva were better. Hopefully banjo 3 will be good, but they are not the great great company they used to be. The old rare is dead.
organic_machine
Everyone knows their not as good as they used to be, so their not over rated.
When one simply ignores their failure like many lemmings do, thats when they become overrated. Therefore, they are overrated.
I've never seen a lemming do that, but whatever. And Rare isn't a failure, their just not as good as they used to be. Most of their games are still decent, just not amazing.
[QUOTE="Zero_Fate_"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I'd say Blizzard because they rarely release new IPs. Sure their games are great, but I'd love to see something new other than a new Warcraft or Starcraft every 3 or so years.sexy_chimp
How canwe make things like Mario slide?
Cause Nintendo makes new IPs.
Blizzard equally expands upon there 3 majorIPs (Except their console titles). There has only been one Starcraft (And an expansion) released so far, there has been4 Warcrafts (One different genre)and there has been 2Diablos over the course of 10 years.Remember, Nintendo has more manpower than Blizzard does (Especially because Blizzard lost north) and now your expecting Blizzard to simply snap it's finger and create a new IP just like that?
I dont get new IPs talk either. I am a fan of the original Starcraft and I can bet that since I liked Starcraft, im almost positive that ill enjoy Starcraft 2 but in a new IP that isnt the case is it?
[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]Yes. Look at them in their glory days. Now look at PDZ. Look at it. Look at grabbed by the ghoulies. They have lost so much. Kameo and Viva were better. Hopefully banjo 3 will be good, but they are not the great great company they used to be. The old rare is dead.
sexy_chimp
Everyone knows their not as good as they used to be, so their not over rated.
When one simply ignores their failure like many lemmings do, thats when they become overrated. Therefore, they are overrated.
I've never seen a lemming do that, but whatever. And Rare isn't a failure, their just not as good as they used to be. Most of their games are still decent, just not amazing.
To call PDZ "decent" is overrating in and of itself. Yes, viva pinata and kameo were good games. I dont deny that. But to call PDZ anything but failure is a sin in my book.
but the whole point of the word 'overrated' is that it is treated as better than it really is. Ubisoft is pretty much accepted as a second rate developer. (plus AC is going to be awesome)
SE on the other hand is pretty much repected throughout the industry, which I don't understand because all they did is stick to the same formula again and again (not to mention the endless ports and remakes and spin-offs they do)hamstergeddon
Ubisoft was treated as a second rate developer until almost the end of last gen when, I dunno where, a lot of esteem for them showed up. I should have said that I don't think they are the most overrated but still find they are.
First off, I disagree with Blizzard being overrated. They are single handedly saving the PC gaming front with games like WoW, Warcraft, Starcraft and Diablo (which are all classics). Despite the fact that they are Blizzard's only real games, they are 100% quality and Blizzard consistently amazes me with their talent and especially their focus on making a game as perfect as it can be. How can Blizzard be overrated with every single one of their games being classics?
That said, Square Enix gets my vote. The Final Fantasy series is not all bells and whistles as many people think. In fact they just make a new game and plaster the name Final Fantasy on it in order to make it sell bucketloads.The result is that lately their games have been quite sub-par. Let's begin with prior to the merge (Squaresoft):
Chrono Trigger/FF6/Super Mario RPG: Classics in my book
FFVII: Same thing really, a very good game.
FFVIII: Pretty good, bad gameplay though. Draw system was so slow.
FFIX: Same thing, good.
FFX: This is my favourite FF. The story and characters of this game were stellar.
After the merge:
KH2: Very good (start with the good)
FFX-2: well, loads of people hate this game. I don't mind it to be honest, it is pretty fun despite the 'happy' tone, but it still is disappointing no matter which way you swing it (recycled everything).
FFXI: I do not like this game. It is an average MMO.
FFXII: I liked the battle system and the premise. The story was a joke, as were the characters. Music was boring. Espers were pathetic. Difficulty was extremely uneven at times (i.e first half of the game is very challenging, the second half is a lot easier).
INFINITE FFVII ADDONS: This annoys me to no end. They have tarnished a near perfect game. AC was all graphics and sound but no story, BC was a mobile phone game that no-one played, Crisis Core- well I haven't got my hands on it yet but it looks alright. Dirge of Cerberus: ... a very bad shooting game.
FFXIII and the other 2-3 'expansions' to come with it: milking again, but FFXIII looks pretty cool.
Rumoured remake of FFVII: me= ...
As you can see, Square has fallen since the merge with Enix. This is all my opinion though, but SE have really, really disappointed me lately.
[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]Yes. Look at them in their glory days. Now look at PDZ. Look at it. Look at grabbed by the ghoulies. They have lost so much. Kameo and Viva were better. Hopefully banjo 3 will be good, but they are not the great great company they used to be. The old rare is dead.
organic_machine
Everyone knows their not as good as they used to be, so their not over rated.
When one simply ignores their failure like many lemmings do, thats when they become overrated. Therefore, they are overrated.
I've never seen a lemming do that, but whatever. And Rare isn't a failure, their just not as good as they used to be. Most of their games are still decent, just not amazing.
To call PDZ "decent" is overrating in and of itself. Yes, viva pinata and kameo were good games. I dont deny that. But to call PDZ anything but failure is a sin in my book.
That's why I said "MOST of their games" :P
[QUOTE="CherryShooter"]It has to be Blizzard Entertainment. They made a few good games but one of their games became a fad in some foreign country and all of a sudden they are praised and ever since they have been as bad as EA.
What about yours?
cobrax75
which game are you reffering to?
every game they have made has become a fad......they have gotten 3 GOTY awards here....and all but 2 of their games havent gotten AAA here.....
you are the one who keeps insisting that Starcraft 2 will flop...so Im not surprised you would make this thread.
Blizzard is a crap developer, they made crap console games and they moved onto PC dvlopment. Because PC gamers has nothing to play, they decided to take in crap Blizzard games and automaticaly claim them the best. Gamespot was filled with hermits back than so thats why they gave them GOTY.
BLIZZARD is overrated, they rehash rehash rehash. Thats all they do and for that they are as bad no WORSE than EA. No actually they are the worst develeopers in the planet.
Ill make a bet thread and ill state that if "Starcraft 2 scores higher than Halo Wars" than I will go live in the wild for one day.
Blizzard is a crap developer, they made crap console games and they moved onto PC dvlopment. Because PC gamers has nothing to play, they decided to take in crap Blizzard games and automaticaly claim them the best. Gamespot was filled with hermits back than so thats why they gave them GOTY.
CherryShooter
This is why democracy sucks.
Blizzard is the absolute most consistently high quality developer ever.
You obviously have little to no idea what you are talking about TC.
First off, I disagree with Blizzard being overrated. They are single handedly saving the PC gaming front with games like WoW, Warcraft, Starcraft and Diablo (which are all classics). Despite the fact that they are Blizzard's only real games, they are 100% quality and Blizzard consistently amazes me with their talent and especially their focus onmakinga game as perfect asit can be.How can Blizzard be overrated with every single one of their games being classics?
That said, Square Enix gets my vote. The Final Fantasy series is not all bells and whistles as many people think. In fact they just make a new game and plaster the name Final Fantasy on it in order to make it sell bucketloads.The result is that lately their games have been quite sub-par. Let's begin with prior to the merge (Squaresoft):
Chrono Trigger/FF6/Super Mario RPG: Classics in my book
FFVII: Same thing really, a very good game.
FFVIII: Pretty good, bad gameplay though. Draw system was so slow.
FFIX: Same thing, good.
FFX: This is my favourite FF. The story and characters of this game were stellar.After the merge:
KH2: Very good (start with the good)
FFX-2: well, loads of people hate this game. I don't mind it to be honest, it is pretty fun despite the 'happy' tone, but it still is disappointing no matter which way you swing it (recycled everything).
FFXI: I do not like this game. It is an average MMO.
FFXII: I liked the battle system and the premise. The story was a joke, as were the characters. Music was boring. Espers were pathetic. Difficulty was extremely uneven at times (i.e first half of the game is very challenging, the second half is a lot easier).
INFINITE FFVII ADDONS: This annoys me to no end. They have tarnished a near perfect game. AC was all graphics and sound but no story, BC was a mobile phone game that no-one played, Crisis Core- well I haven't got my hands on it yet but it looks alright. Dirge of Cerberus: ... a very bad shooting game.
FFXIII and the other 2-3 'expansions' to come with it: milking again, but FFXIII looks pretty cool.
Rumoured remake of FFVII: me= ...As you can see, Square has fallen since the merge with Enix. This is all my opinion though, but SE have really, really disappointed me lately.
Arhazard
I agree /w just about most of that especially about FFVIII (Huge letdown)...strongly disagree about FFXI though.
Pffft...people hating on SE...ya, I can understand. You guys have high expectations, and when they release garabage like Dirge of Cerberus to gain a lil extra cash...it hurts. It hurt me too, guys.
Blizzard is the absolute most consistently high quality developer ever.
You obviously have little to no idea what you are talking about TC.
jethrovegas
No, everyone in this post agrees that Blizzard is overrated. Im right your wrong.
Blizzard is the absolute most consistently high quality developer ever.
You obviously have little to no idea what you are talking about TC.
jethrovegas
In your (and admittedly alot of other peoples) opinion maybe.
But obviously not everyone considers Blizzard to be a great as some people make out.
I consider WoW to be the one the worst games I've ever played, other people love it to death.
Is this a joke? Blizzard is one of the few Devs which have NEVER made a bad game.
Seriously, an opinion is an opinion, but that is just pure stupidity.
[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]Blizzard is the absolute most consistently high quality developer ever.
You obviously have little to no idea what you are talking about TC.
user_nat
In your (and admittedly alot of other peoples) opinion maybe.
But obviously not everyone considers Blizzard to be a great as some people make out.
I consider WoW to be the one the worst games I've ever played, other people love it to death.
Yeah World of Warcraft is the worst game ever made. Gamespot was just having an opposite day when they gave WoW goty, it really should have been worst game of the year...or of all time.
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