Most Overrated games developer/director IYO?

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#1 Ninja_Odin
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Has to be Tetsuro Nomura for me. I mean VsXIII will define him but the guy gets too much praise for doing so little. Character Design aside he's done bugger all to be compared with some of the greats. Games he's done(directed) Kingdom Hearts Kingdom Hearts II Dissidia Crisis Core Disiddia 012 KH: Birth by Sleep KH: Re oded KH 365 days Some SE fanboys talk him up like he's the main guy at SE..i'd be worried if your lead director keeps making low budget Handheld games or Spin offs. I guess VsxIIII will be the game that truly defines him, but up to now, very overrated. Inb4 Kojima
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I'll just say in general, Bioware.

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#3 Espada12
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Hideo Kojima.

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#4 Some-Mist
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I'll just say in general, Bioware.

ChubbyGuy40

I will agree with this.

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#5 MFDOOM1983
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Square bungie naughty dog
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#6 Sledgehammer117
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Hideo Kojima.

Espada12

I agree with this 100%.

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#7 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Hideo Kojima.

Sledgehammer117

I agree with this 100%.

This guy as well.
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#8 mrmusicman247
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First off, let's learn how to spell people's names, TC. Second what praise has he gotten that makes him overrated?
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#9 tempest91
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Rockstar

Naughty Dog

Bethesda

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#10 Ninja_Odin
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Bioware have done what they're good at though, make WRPG's and make them more popular, they also had outstanding WRPG's before KOTOR. You can't blame the for that and they have a lot of GOTY awards to showcase their talents. KOTOR/ME2 aer classics and will always be classics. I'm thinking more Actual People though not development companies since a company can jhave many development teams with different people.
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#11 Ninja_Odin
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First off, let's learn how to spell people's names, TC. Second what praise has he gotten that makes him overrated?mrmusicman247
Ever since the FF directors club speerated Nomura has been getting credit for just about every game they've done. When FFXIII flopped critically People were getting on his bellend because everyone else was incapable.
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Every non Sony developer imho

David Cage is underrated imho

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#13 Lucianu
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Infinity Ward

I don't know about Bioware. Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Knights of the old Republic, Mass Effect 1.. These games deserve their praise.

SquareMFDOOM1983

Hell no.

Square Enix, yes, they are very mediocre these days (though i don't know who overrates them exactly, i mean damn, they are bashed as hell).

But Square? The defunct company that brought Chrono Trigger and Xenogears, the greatest pieces of gaming that blessed this planet, are underrated, as hell.

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bioware

i play all of their games because they are generally praised by everyone but each time i am massively dissapointed a by an extremely boring game

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#15 Sandvichman
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Red Orchestra,

Stalker

Final fantasy

starcraft 2

resistance

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#16 MFDOOM1983
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Infinity Ward

Treyarch

I don't know about Bioware. Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Knights of the old Republic, Mass Effect 1.. These games deserve their praise.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]SquareLucianu

Hell no.

Square Enix, yes, they are very mediocre these days (though i don't know who overrates them exactly, i mean damn, they are bashed as hell).

But Square? The defunct company that brought Chrono Trigger and Xenogears, the greatest pieces of gaming that blessed this planet, are underrated, as hell.

I meant SE.

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#17 Lucianu
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bioware

i play all of their games because they are generally praised by everyone but each time i am massively dissapointed a by an extremely boring game

Laxer04

Even Knights of the old Republic 1?

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#18 fabz_95
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Probably Bioware, not a huge fan of their games.
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#19 Yangire
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Red Orchestra,

Stalker

Final fantasy

starcraft 2

resistance

Sandvichman

Yeah those are the worst game developer/directors in the industry right now.

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#20 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

Red Orchestra,

Stalker

Final fantasy

starcraft 2

resistance

Yangire

Yeah those are the worst game developer/directors in the industry right now.

Hit the nail on the head.
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#21 vashkey
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Prepare to see every popular dev in this thread.
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#22 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

Red Orchestra,

Stalker

Final fantasy

starcraft 2

resistance

Yangire

Yeah those are the worst game developer/directors in the industry right now.

Worst, no, i like those games, except RO, its horrible, but they just arent as good as people make them out to be, atleast not for me,
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TreyarchLucianu
Really? Really?
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#24 PBSnipes
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Obsidian, at least by the "hardcore" RPG crowd. I can appreciate what they're trying to do in their games, but they put too much focus on player choice without backing it up with a reason to care. "Shades of grey" morality and ambiguous player choice only work if the player has an emotional investment in the outcome, and in my experience their games just don't provide that: I feel more like I'm reading a choose-your-own-adventure book than taking part in some deep, meaningful experience. Nevermind their QA team.

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#25 Lucianu
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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]Treyarchvashkey
Really? Really?

I would have thought someone would react like that about Infinity Ward..

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#26 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Every non Sony developer imho

David Cage is underrated imho

Snyper-007

Okay you guys need to stop trolling it's not funny anymore.

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#27 Avian005
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No one comes to mind really. I would say Obsidian, but I enjoyed some of their previous games (such as KOTOR2). New Vegas, not so much.

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#28 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]TreyarchLucianu

Really? Really?

I would have thought someone would say that about Infinity Ward..

What, the "really?". There are Infinity Ward fanboys, I can see why someone might think Infinity Ward. But people are so harsh to Treyarch for creating the percieved weaker Call of Duty games. How many Treyarch fanboys do you see? I rarely see praise for the dev.
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#29 Lucianu
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What, the "really?". There are Infinity Ward fanboys, I can see why someone might think Infinity Ward. But people are so harsh to Treyarch for creating the percieved weaker Call of Duty games. How many Treyarch fanboys do you see? I rarely see praise for the dev. vashkey

Ah, you're right about that, it slipped my mind for a few minutes, they are criticized regarding that, most don't praise them.

Corrected that mistake in my post, sir.

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I'll just say in general, Bioware.

ChubbyGuy40


Them.

Hideo Kojima.

Espada12


And him.

They have done nothing but sell out to the mainstream casual audience. And he has never really produced anything other than Metal Gear and Zone of the Enders (which has been on hold for WAY TOO LONG).

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#31 JVII
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Definitely agree with Nomura, the fact that anyone can even pretend to like the trash he has produced is much more credit than he deserves.

I guess VsxIIII will be the game that truly defines him, but up to now, very overrated. Ninja_Odin

Are you actually implying anything positive about that hybrid rehash of Kingdom Hearts/Dirge of Cerberus?

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- Assassins Creed series

- Oblivion (loved Morrowind, Daggerfall and Arena in the elderscrolls series but didnt like Oblivion as much.

- Modern Warfare2

Cant belive people are saying Obsidian is overrated... Probably the most underrated devs ever.

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#33 turtlethetaffer
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Infinity Ward/ Activision/ anyone involved in making a CoD game.

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Hideo Kojima is without a shadow of a doubt, the most overrated game developer on the planet. I honestly laugh when people try to compare him to Miyamoto, Will Wright or John Carmack
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#35 DoomZaW
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For me, i'd have to say Santa Monica for the god of war franchise. Seriously, back in 2009, when the GOW collection was released for the ps3, i bought it on day one, for all the good reviews and because i generally love action games, and what did i get? A game where you could pull off a 12 hit combo by pressing a L1 + O, a game where half the time of fighting was spent timing quick time events to kill enemies instantly when you had thrown anything heavier than a pea on them. A game which handed you a weapon from the start which could dish out damage across the entire screen from the start and you were awarded health for pretty much every time you killed someone. A game which somehow won graphic awards in 2005, when it hardly looked better than an xbox launch title, AND I AM STILL REFERRING TO THE HD COLLECTION!

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#36 DoomZaW
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- Assassins Creed series

- Oblivion (loved Morrowind, Daggerfall and Arena in the elderscrolls series but didnt like Oblivion as much.

- Modern Warfare2

Cant belive people are saying Obsidian is overrated... Probably the most underrated devs ever.

kozzy1234

I'd say in terms of gameplay and setting, they're appreciated just right. In terms of programming abillities, they are by far, the worst in the industry

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#37 dercoo
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Valve, they make good games, but are not the holy grail developer PC gamers make them out to be. Most of their vanilla games are boring.

Like half life 2. Seriously what was so great about that game. Had horrible story, dumb AI, and bad shooter mechanics.

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#38 magnusm1
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Those "persons" that are making the CoD-series, 'nuff said.

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#39 RobbieH1234
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Cant belive people are saying Obsidian is overrated... Probably the most underrated devs ever.

kozzy1234

Troika.

As for overrated, I generally go with Bethesda. However, given BioWare's..."new ****"...I'll go with them.

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#40 Maroxad
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Why must everything be overrated? Cant we just accept that some things are good but just not for us.

I think the following developers are good, but just dont develop games that particulary interest or entertain me: Amy Hennig (Uncharted, Legacy of Kain), Hideo Kojima (MGS/Zone of the Enders), Todd Howard (Oblivion, Fallout 3). Are any of them bad? No, but their product just doesnt cater to my tastes, I can see why people like their games and nothing is overrated.

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Prepare to see every popular dev in this thread.vashkey
Pretty much this. And I'll go with CDProjekt now.
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#42 beganoo
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Red Orchestra,

Stalker

Final fantasy

starcraft 2

resistance

Sandvichman

StarCraft 2 ? The number 1 compeditive game in the entire world atm ? Made by the most consistive devs that have only great games in their history.

Wow, you must have no idea what your talking about. :)

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[QUOTE="Laxer04"]

bioware

i play all of their games because they are generally praised by everyone but each time i am massively dissapointed a by an extremely boring game

Lucianu

Even Knights of the old Republic 1?

KOTOR was a very boring game. I couldn't stand it. I do like Bioware though, Mass Effect is my favortie series this gen, and Dragon Age: Origins was great as well. And their cla$$ics are great As for the topic, I think that Nintendo is overrated :O I mean they do make excellent games. SNES and N64 was some of the most fun I've had gaming. And they're offerings this gen have been great too. But they're NOT the holy grail of gaming.

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#44 SkyWard20
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

I'll just say in general, Bioware.

foxhound_fox


Them.

Hideo Kojima.

Espada12


And him.

They have done nothing but sell out to the mainstream casual audience. And he has never really produced anything other than Metal Gear and Zone of the Enders (which has been on hold for WAY TOO LONG).

So you're saying:

Bioware shouldn't try to be mainstream.

Most people who play Bioware games are now casual gamers.

I think there's some... controversy to this, but I'll probably be the only one to notice that, right here.

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#45 savebattery
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I'll just say in general, Bioware.

ChubbyGuy40
I agree with this. I think the last BioWare game I liked was Jade Empire. I guess I also liked Sonic Chronicles, if that counts. I pine for the days of Knights of the Old Republic, Neverwinter Knights, Baldur's Gate I and II, and MDK2...
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#46 TheMoreYouOwn
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Every developer who ever made a killer game, and now that they're onto their 2nd or 3rd installment...they are overrated. :D
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#47 PBSnipes
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Cant belive people are saying Obsidian is overrated... Probably the most underrated devs ever.

kozzy1234

Really? You can't see why someone might find Obisidan (a developer that, as I mentioned, doesn't provide much in the way of emotional investment and whose titles can generally be described as buggy at best) overrated?

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#48 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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Hideo Kojima.

Espada12
Yeah, this.
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#49 NaveedLife
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Epic Games

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Actually, this as well. The best game they've ever done was a port of Tony Hawk Pro Skater.