Mouse/keyboard Vs. gamepad for FPS

Controller by far. K/B mouse reminds me of work.

Which one would you choose? To sit on a sofa (or something) play with a gamepad and relax, or play with a mouse/keyboard with more accuracy? For me mouse/keyboard, especially for first person shooters. For most other games probably gamepad. bcroger2

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] This is why console gamers have to resort to "BUT IT'S ON THE COUCH IT'S TEH BOMB!" and "But it's so relaxing!"Brownesque

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="lowe0"] So your argument is "they prefer something different than me - they must be wrong!" Did it ever occur to you that maybe it's a simple case of preferring comfort over precision? Or that some people may find a comfortable gaming experience more important than "pwning n00bs"? As long as I'm having fun, I really don't give a **** if I maybe could have made those one or two extra headshots with a mouse. lowe0

If you prefer relaxation, maybe you should watch a movie. Games aren't about relaxation, they're about involvement, integration, challenge, triumph.Brownesque

[QUOTE="Brownesque"] If you prefer relaxation, maybe you should watch a movie. Games aren't about relaxation, they're about involvement, integration, challenge, triumph.lowe0

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] If you prefer relaxation, maybe you should watch a movie. Games aren't about relaxation, they're about involvement, integration, challenge, triumph.Brownesque

Mouse/keyboard, its a lot faster

In fact, the whole "hardcore" hypercompetitive strain of gamer is a relatively recent phenomenon, from my perspective. The only time you ever saw people like that was at the arcade, crammed around the Street Fighter machine. I'd say that attitude didn't really infect most of the game industry until sometime between Q3A and Counter-Strike. Now, they're everywhere.lowe0

I don't know, I can't really imagine people playing Mega Man and Contra very casually.

Might not have been strictly "competitive" because online multiplayer hadn't been invented yet, but it's not like there weren't obsessive hardcore people back then.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="lowe0"]To you. Did it ever occur to you that maybe someone else's preferences are different? No, of course it didn't.lowe0

Mouse and Keyboard for non-aim assist games, and a gamepad for games with aim assist on. I just prefer the feel of a controller for long hours of playing.

I perfer Keyboard/Mouse.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] It did occur to me that if your preferences are chilling out watching a movie is probably a better way to do that than a medium whose greatest distinguishing feature is that you play it.Brownesque

My problem with K&M in games is this

1. Skill gaps. Yes, K&M do allow for much more accurate user control, much so in an FPS. I think this is a bad thing. I will get taunted for this because gaming has this "Hurr durr Noobs" attitude in general, but the skill gap can be huge. I play games a lot, I've completed hard games. I would consider myself a fairly skilled individual when it comes to games. However, if I were to try and play and FPS on pc with K&M, I can guarantee I will die a horrible amount, to the point where I will question if others are really that good and have not some how cheated. It's nice that some people are that good, but it's not fun to play against. The PC is dominated by players who are used to this, especially when you try to play older games where the community is a select few who have precise aiming.

2. Technical advantages. One person can be using a £5 mouse, the other a £100 mouse. This adds to the skill gap.

The reason games like COD are popular is because they are "noob" friendly. Even in the most well made games, being killed ALL the time is not that fun. In COD (On consoles) the worst player can kill the best, the best player will know the game well enough to win more often, but everybody has a chance because of the game pads lessened accuracy. That makes the game fun. Some players get frustrated over this, suddenly their masculinity is damaged because they were killed in a game, and they will prefer more competitive games and a more competitive platforms.

I'm happy with K&M in single player though lol.

Mouse and keyboard is a thousand times better than a regular controller fro FPS's.

Keyboard and Mouse because there isn't a huge delay in the controls and i am much more accurate with them.

Keyboard/mouse is simply superior.

a Mouse/keyboard takes away the immersiveness of shooting a gun. therefore fails at life.............miserably.

XenoNinja

What? I can't even comprehend the reasoning behind this.

Anyway, KBAM is supreme.

My problem with K&M in games is this

1. Skill gaps. Yes, K&M do allow for much more accurate user control, much so in an FPS. I think this is a bad thing. I will get taunted for this because gaming has this "Hurr durr Noobs" attitude in general, but the skill gap can be huge. I play games a lot, I've completed hard games. I would consider myself a fairly skilled individual when it comes to games. However, if I were to try and play and FPS on pc with K&M, I can guarantee I will die a horrible amount, to the point where I will question if others are really that good and have not some how cheated. It's nice that some people are that good, but it's not fun to play against. The PC is dominated by players who are used to this, especially when you try to play older games where the community is a select few who have precise aiming.

2. Technical advantages. One person can be using a £5 mouse, the other a £100 mouse. This adds to the skill gap.

The reason games like COD are popular is because they are "noob" friendly. Even in the most well made games, being killed ALL the time is not that fun. In COD (On consoles) the worst player can kill the best, the best player will know the game well enough to win more often, but everybody has a chance because of the game pads lessened accuracy. That makes the game fun. Some players get frustrated over this, suddenly their masculinity is damaged because they were killed in a game, and they will prefer more competitive games and a more competitive platforms.

I'm happy with K&M in single player though lol.

hip-hop-cola2

I think this settles it.

Mouse/keyboard.

I didn't used to think so though.

A lot of people who say they prefer gamepads probably haven't given mouse and keyboard enough chance (this is what i was like.)

You also aren't going to have much fun with a ball mouse and a clunky $10 keyboard.

Mouse and keyboard is much more precise and I like it more for fps.

Mouse/keyboard.

I didn't used to think so though.

A lot of people who say they prefer gamepads probably haven't given mouse and keyboard enough chance (this is what i was like.)

You also aren't going to have much fun with a ball mouse and a clunky $10 keyboard.

FamiBox

My problem with K&M in games is this

1. Skill gaps. Yes, K&M do allow for much more accurate user control, much so in an FPS. I think this is a bad thing. I will get taunted for this because gaming has this "Hurr durr Noobs" attitude in general, but the skill gap can be huge. I play games a lot, I've completed hard games. I would consider myself a fairly skilled individual when it comes to games. However, if I were to try and play and FPS on pc with K&M, I can guarantee I will die a horrible amount, to the point where I will question if others are really that good and have not some how cheated. It's nice that some people are that good, but it's not fun to play against. The PC is dominated by players who are used to this, especially when you try to play older games where the community is a select few who have precise aiming.

2. Technical advantages. One person can be using a £5 mouse, the other a £100 mouse. This adds to the skill gap.

The reason games like COD are popular is because they are "noob" friendly. Even in the most well made games, being killed ALL the time is not that fun. In COD (On consoles) the worst player can kill the best, the best player will know the game well enough to win more often, but everybody has a chance because of the game pads lessened accuracy. That makes the game fun. Some players get frustrated over this, suddenly their masculinity is damaged because they were killed in a game, and they will prefer more competitive games and a more competitive platforms.

I'm happy with K&M in single player though lol.

hip-hop-cola2

ive never been able to play video games with a keyboard :P ever since i was little.

My problem with K&M in games is this

1. Skill gaps. Yes, K&M do allow for much more accurate user control, much so in an FPS. I think this is a bad thing. I will get taunted for this because gaming has this "Hurr durr Noobs" attitude in general, but the skill gap can be huge. I play games a lot, I've completed hard games. I would consider myself a fairly skilled individual when it comes to games. However, if I were to try and play and FPS on pc with K&M, I can guarantee I will die a horrible amount, to the point where I will question if others are really that good and have not some how cheated. It's nice that some people are that good, but it's not fun to play against. The PC is dominated by players who are used to this, especially when you try to play older games where the community is a select few who have precise aiming.

2. Technical advantages. One person can be using a £5 mouse, the other a £100 mouse. This adds to the skill gap.

The reason games like COD are popular is because they are "noob" friendly. Even in the most well made games, being killed ALL the time is not that fun. In COD (On consoles) the worst player can kill the best, the best player will know the game well enough to win more often, but everybody has a chance because of the game pads lessened accuracy. That makes the game fun. Some players get frustrated over this, suddenly their masculinity is damaged because they were killed in a game, and they will prefer more competitive games and a more competitive platforms.

I'm happy with K&M in single player though lol.

hip-hop-cola2

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="lowe0"] And who's to say that I can't play something while relaxing? Are you really telling me that this whole time, I haven't been enjoying myself? That's news to me. In fact, the whole "hardcore" hypercompetitive strain of gamer is a relatively recent phenomenon, from my perspective. The only time you ever saw people like that was at the arcade, crammed around the Street Fighter machine. I'd say that attitude didn't really infect most of the game industry until sometime between Q3A and Counter-Strike. Now, they're everywhere.lowe0

No, enjoyment isn't reducible to relaxation for the perfectly valid reason that relaxation isn't the only way to enjoy something.

"But it's perfectly okay for you to say that a person who's relaxed on the couch isn't engaged in the game they're playing?" To be clear, I didn't say that, and I won't. I do think that relaxing on the couch is a significantly less way of being involved, than, say, being involved in a violent firefight with Charlie in Vietnam. Gradation, rather than on/off, true/false.

"So why is it that you say I can't make an absolute statement (never mind that I wasn't), but that it's okay for you?" To begin with, that's not the case. Anybody can make an absolute statement as long as it's absolutely true.

For example, go ahead and say

Go ahead, I won't fault you one bit.

[QUOTE="hip-hop-cola2"]

My problem with K&M in games is this

1. Skill gaps. Yes, K&M do allow for much more accurate user control, much so in an FPS. I think this is a bad thing. I will get taunted for this because gaming has this "Hurr durr Noobs" attitude in general, but the skill gap can be huge. I play games a lot, I've completed hard games. I would consider myself a fairly skilled individual when it comes to games. However, if I were to try and play and FPS on pc with K&M, I can guarantee I will die a horrible amount, to the point where I will question if others are really that good and have not some how cheated. It's nice that some people are that good, but it's not fun to play against. The PC is dominated by players who are used to this, especially when you try to play older games where the community is a select few who have precise aiming.

2. Technical advantages. One person can be using a £5 mouse, the other a £100 mouse. This adds to the skill gap.

The reason games like COD are popular is because they are "noob" friendly. Even in the most well made games, being killed ALL the time is not that fun. In COD (On consoles) the worst player can kill the best, the best player will know the game well enough to win more often, but everybody has a chance because of the game pads lessened accuracy. That makes the game fun. Some players get frustrated over this, suddenly their masculinity is damaged because they were killed in a game, and they will prefer more competitive games and a more competitive platforms.

I'm happy with K&M in single player though lol.

PS2_ROCKS

That's lovely, but I wouldn't want to play a relaxed game online with you. And while you may be an exception, there is no doubt better equipment results in a more accurate player.

I do think that relaxing on the couch is a significantly less way of being involved, than, say, being involved in a violent firefight with Charlie in Vietnam. Brownesque

gamepad for me, i never found the m/k comfortable for gaming period

To sit on a sofa (or something) play with a wii-mote and relax.

If you're playing a FPS to relax, you're doing it wrong.

my opinions go like this

Controller is better (to me) for:

FPS,Platformer, Action adventure

Keyboard is better for:

Racing, MMO, RPG, RTS and Side Scrollers (IE: VVVVV)

my opinions go like this

Controller is better (to me) for:

FPS,Platformer, Action adventure

Keyboard is better for:

Racing, MMO, RPG, RTS and Side Scrollers (IE: VVVVV)

dragonfly110

Gamepad = Fail when it comes to first person shooters.

#1. Mouse Keyboard

#2. Wiimote

#3. Dual Analog

Dual Analog is slow, those games always have autoaim on, and it's not precise. Mouse and keyboard or even the Wiimote are much better designed for these type of games.