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#151 -Renegade
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]I don't believe it. There is no way Sony and Microsoft will let Nintendo get all the momentum this E3.SpruceCaboose
Why not? They are both doing well right now, and the consoles make more money later in the lifecycles than they do in the beginnings of one.

They have to stay competitive and build hype for their new consoles.

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#152 SPYDER0416
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"Best year ever for Xbox 360."

Um, yeah...no, not really.

mitu123

Sales wise, yes.

Quality wise, well... :lol:

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#153 RyviusARC
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Looks like I won't need to upgrade my PC for years. The new GPUs will be practically worthless unless you game on three 2560x1600 monitors with 32xAA.
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#154 ZamboniGamer
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Hopefully we dont see new consoles till 2015

Midnightshade29

Yeah...I agree with you...2015 seems about right.

why do lemmings wants or xbox fans want the new console so soon? I don't get it. I personally don't have money for a new machine. I just upgraded my rig and between that, my PS3, my vita, I have tons of games yet to finish and to buy. Unlike some here (and my friends list) I don't only play the new "hotness" -- old games are great.

Hell I play old pc and ps1 games from the 90s all the time. Is it all a system wars thing why lemmings yearn for a new console? is the kinnect fever getting to them that they want ms to invest in hardcore new ips again? If so, you guys will have to wait. Why not just take the plunge and get a ps3 or pc if you need something new?

Really? You do know that the 360 will be 7 years old right? The PS3 is right behind going on 6. Its time for a newXbox.Most people don't own every system out there like some do!

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#155 ZamboniGamer
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Anything before 2014 is too early IMO.SpruceCaboose

Why? Please don't say because there is no need. You have to have a specific reason why?

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#156 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Anything before 2014 is too early IMO.ZamboniGamer

Why? Please don't say because there is no need. You have to have a specific reason why?

because he owns a ps3. it has games. 360 has no game.
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#157 icyseanfitz
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really glad i do most of my gaming on my pc these days, the current consoles are bloody ancientand need to be replaced

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#158 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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people who say we dont need new consoles are just poor. and dont wanna deal with the fact that they wont have the latest and greatest in video games. we need new consoles. ASAP
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#159 Ravensmash
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people who say we dont need new consoles are just poor. and dont wanna deal with the fact that they wont have the latest and greatest in video games. we need new consoles. ASAPTH1Sx1SxSPARTA
That's a ridiculous assumption.
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#160 musicalmac  Moderator
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That's a ridiculous assumption.Ravensmash
This is a smart post.
people who say we dont need new consoles are just poor. and dont wanna deal with the fact that they wont have the latest and greatest in video games. we need new consoles. ASAPTH1Sx1SxSPARTA
This is most certainly not a smart post.
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#161 PAL360
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Xbox 360tion domination continuation!

But seriously, this gen consoles are awesome but we need new hardware NOW :evil:

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#162 PinnacleGamingP
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Xbox 360tion domination continuation!

But seriously, this gen consoles are awesome but we need new hardware NOW :evil:

PAL360

get a ps3 than you wont need new hardware for the next 2 decades.

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#163 Bigboi500
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I bet there's at least 10 lemmings in this thread who don't/won't believe it until it happens.

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#164 musicalmac  Moderator
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Maybe MS is going the Apple route, and holding back major announcements for their own events, so they can dictate their own schedule 100%. Apple did that with the MacWorld expo, and they seem to be doing alright.

On another note, the new consoles need something different, because it's going to be hard to 'wow' people simply with graphical flare. I'm not saying they should all have smell-o-vision, but pseudo-3D isn't the next big thing. Someone needs to surprise us.
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#165 deactivated-5f26ef21d6f71
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THANK GOD!!!!!!!

Some of you here need to get over yourselves and play your old games, backlog games and what not.

That, or take your ADHD medication. Because Generation 7 is here for the long run, whether you people like it or not. :twisted:

I mean really, why such an earnest desire for a new console? What exactly do you guys do to your old games? :lol:

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#166 darkhadou
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I, for one, am extremely pleased with this news. I'm tired of console generations lasting 5 years. Honestly, with the amount of high caliber games still coming out, the PS3 and X360 still have a lot of life left in them. The Wii sucks is so outdated, which is why Nintendo is coming out with something "fresh?" Anyways, the console games still look fantastic now. With games like RE6 looking orgasmic, it's no wonder why they're not in a hurry to release new consoles.
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#167 darkhadou
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Maybe MS is going the Apple route, and holding back major announcements for their own events, so they can dictate their own schedule 100%. Apple did that with the MacWorld expo, and they seem to be doing alright.

On another note, the new consoles need something different, because it's going to be hard to 'wow' people simply with graphical flare. I'm not saying they should all have smell-o-vision, but pseudo-3D isn't the next big thing. Someone needs to surprise us.

musicalmac

THANK GOD!!!!!!!

Some of you here need to get over yourselves and play your old games, backlog games and what not.

That, or take your ADHD medication. Because Generation 7 is here for the long run, whether you people like it or not. :twisted:

I mean really, why such an earnest desire for a new console? What exactly do you guys do to your old games? :lol:

KingsofQueens

I completely agree with you two. Well said guys.

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#168 PinnacleGamingP
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I, for one, am extremely pleased with this news. I'm tired of console generations lasting 5 years. Honestly, with the amount of high caliber games still coming out, the PS3 and X360 still have a lot of life left in them. The Wii sucks is so outdated, which is why Nintendo is coming out with something "fresh?" Anyways, the console games still look fantastic now. With games like RE6 looking orgasmic, it's no wonder why they're not in a hurry to release new consoles.darkhadou
:lol: @ all the 360 fanboys who are hurt by this news....seems like ps3 owners are fine without new hardware for another 5 years :lol: enjoy kinect suckazzzzzz
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#169 tjricardo089
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Hopefully we dont see new consoles till 2015

finalstar2007

Oh hell no, that's too late. I would want the consoles to be released late 2013 or begginings of 2014.

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#170 cainetao11
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"Best year ever for Xbox 360."

Um, yeah...no, not really.

mitu123
it was on their end. They're not counting exclusives, they're counting money.
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#171 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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Looks to me like Wii U is going to have a massive head start with zero competition.

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#172 PinnacleGamingP
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wait so microsoft is counting kinect sales as console sales as well???!!!?? :lol: now i see why they were calling it a separate console before its launch what a joke microsoft is :lol:
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#173 razgriz_101
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Why bother when kinect's selling, til the kinect sales die down we wont see anything.

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#174 caseypayne69
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You guys are blind. All this means is the next console won't have Xbox in the name. Durrrrrr! Besides that 360 has had three years in a row with only three or less hot exclusives. HAAAAAAAAA!
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#175 caseypayne69
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Looks to me like Wii U is going to have a massive head start with zero competition.

Crossel777

Yea, looks like I'm going to get a Wii U now.

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#176 ZamboniGamer
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Xbox 360tion domination continuation!

But seriously, this gen consoles are awesome but we need new hardware NOW :evil:

PinnacleGamingP

get a ps3 than you wont need new hardware for the next 2 decades.

Andhave your personal information stolen at least twice LOL

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#177 PinnacleGamingP
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hopefully they just drop out of consoles altogether after finding these stickied in the 360 forum
So my 4th 360 is starting to freeze a lot. I never had this problem before on the other three. All three got rrod but this seems different, it's starting to happen a lot now within an hour of playing, I have put a little fan next to it and it still freezes but it doesn't feel hot to the touch, I'm out of warranty. Any suggestion on a remedy short of sending it in to Microsoft? Update: So I tried reformatting my hard drive, the first time ever, go to play Mass effect 2 game freezes again. So I go threw this a couple more times, start playing the game freezes then bam red ring of death, E74 error screen pops up, damn you Microsoft...H3llstrike
[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]4th Xbox just died on me, its an old core version which had already been fixed, and its out of warranty, oh well looks like I will have to get a new one 3DSTICKMAN
man that sucks but dont go thinking the new ones are any better mine is messedup to and I only bought it in april I sent it of today... you could get a new one but with the 360 you are bound to have a console crap out on you if the ps3 didnt sucks so bad Id get one right now!

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#178 ZombieKiller7
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I don't understand it no. I have a PC and have seen what they can do these days with games that are optimized for them. The consoles need DX11 support. They need triple core processors. With these innovations, developers would be able to bring us one step closer to photo realism in games.

mysticstryk

360 already has a 3-core.

Personally I'm ok with using current console hardware for another 1-2 years.

Beyond that I'll need better equipment.

Figure new consoles in 2013/2014, so I'll finish up my console backlog around that time and sell off the equipment.

Upgrade my PC, work on PC backlog for 2-3 years, wait for price drops on console stuff, then shift again.

Basically cycling platforms, wait for price drops, etc.

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#179 ZamboniGamer
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Maybe MS is going the Apple route, and holding back major announcements for their own events, so they can dictate their own schedule 100%. Apple did that with the MacWorld expo, and they seem to be doing alright.

On another note, the new consoles need something different, because it's going to be hard to 'wow' people simply with graphical flare. I'm not saying they should all have smell-o-vision, but pseudo-3D isn't the next big thing. Someone needs to surprise us.musicalmac

I think thats what Microsoft is doing. I believe they will still release the next Xbox in 2013.

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#180 TheBlackKnight3
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>good

>Kinect games

pick one

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#181 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Xbox 360tion domination continuation!

But seriously, this gen consoles are awesome but we need new hardware NOW :evil:

PinnacleGamingP

get a ps3 than you wont need new hardware for the next 2 decades.

Why would i go from 30fps to 25 or less fps?

Im a nostalgic guy, but no need for a PS3! When i want low end graphics i turn on my Megadrive or Snes :P

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#182 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Xbox 360tion domination continuation!

But seriously, this gen consoles are awesome but we need new hardware NOW :evil:

get a ps3 than you wont need new hardware for the next 2 decades.

Why would i go from 30fps to 25 or less fps?

Im a nostalgic guy, but no need for a PS3! When i want low end graphics i turn on my Megadrive or Snes :P

cmon dude lets play online
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#183 6yadayada9
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That sucks. I don't like XBox but goddamn I was hoping we could move on into the next gen already.

Sony must be letting out a gigantic sigh of relief.

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#184 Badosh
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> No new Playstation > No new xbox > Incoming Xboxstation
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#185 ZombieKiller7
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Gentlemen keep in mind, none of this is necessarily true.

If they were to announce a new console today, sales of their current consoles (and game library) would sink like a rock.

They want to keep it secret as long as possible.

For all we know they could start selling Nextbox/PS4 this year.

My gut feeling is 2013 at earliest, but we just don't know.

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#186 BibiMaghoo
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Gentlemen keep in mind, none of this is necessarily true.

If they were to announce a new console today, sales of their current consoles (and game library) would sink like a rock.

They want to keep it secret as long as possible.

For all we know they could start selling Nextbox/PS4 this year.

My gut feeling is 2013 at earliest, but we just don't know.

ZombieKiller7

Both companies have confirmed in very public statements that they will not be showing new hardware at this years E3.

I dont see how they can be lying about it and not look like complete idiots after the fact. No, they will not be showing new hardware....

AT E3.

That does not mean neither will show anything this year.

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#187 Bigboi500
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I hope all you folks clamoring for new consoles remember how awful things are at the start of a new generation: long wait periods, crappy titles and overpriced everything for a year or more. Right now we're seeing a ton of great software being released frequently and cheap prices on a ton of great games that were recently $60. Think about that.

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#188 clone01
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Hopefully we dont see new consoles till 2015

finalstar2007

I don't know about that, but if its 2014, I think it'll be late, Holiday most likely.

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#189 clr84651
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"Best year ever for Xbox 360."

Um, yeah...no, not really.

mitu123

That's like saying it will be the best year ever for me. LOL I'm turning 40 and I'm content, but my best years were when I was younger.

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#190 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

"Best year ever for Xbox 360."

Um, yeah...no, not really.

spiderluck
Um , yeah ... yes, really

I don't see it.
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#191 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]True, but my question wasn't pertaining to the early PS2/Wii U years, it was more about the later years. Now, let's assume the next Playstation and Xbox hit the market in 2014-15. There could be two possible scenarios: a) They are noticeably more powerful than the Wii U, rendering the Wii U hardware obsolete, sort of like the Wii was to the HD twins b) They are roughly in the same ballpark as the Wii U. They are more powerful, but the power difference is more like that between the PS2 and the Xbox/GCN, rather than Wii and PS3/Xbox 360. Now, in the first instance, what incentive do third parties have to ignore the Wii U, which will have a sizeable install base by then (say, 15-20 million units?) in favor of the newer systems, which will probably be much more expensive to develop for compared to the Wii U? Wouldn't they rather just develop for the Wii U and at best upport to the Xbox/Playstation, leading to no noticeable difference, and further reinforcing Nintendo's first mover advantage (in that by launching first, the Wii U selling the most sort of becomes a self fulfilling prophecy)? In the second instance, when all three are roughly equally powerful... well, then we have an exact repeat of the PS2 vs GCN/Xbox console fight, and we remember how that turned out. My point is that by waiting too much, Microsoft and Sony will be making it that much tougher for themselves to succeed.shinrabanshou

I don't think they'll be 2014-15. I do think they'll be 2013-14. Microsoft Q4 2013, Sony Q1 2014.

The same rationale as the bolded applies to the current 120 million PS360 installed base and up-porting to the Wii U - and if that's the case I see the first mover advantage minimal. What incentive is there to upgrade in such a scenario?

The fast follower/second mover can and does win. This generation in itself is example of that. You simply need to provide a better value proposition.

Nintendo is clearly banking on catching lightning twice with the tablet instead of motion control. I don't know if they will, but I don't think they will.

I do hope, for Sony's sake, that the latest they launch is by Q4 2013, or they'll be sitting ducks again. And yes, I realize that. My point is that the Wii U will, in effect, get a year's worth of a headstart on the other two consoles anyway, while the scenario I outlined above applies. And yes, you're right. The second mover does win, as this generation proved. Except, as you yourself said, that was Nintendo catching lightening in a bottle. It hasn't happened before. Well, it has, but that was all down to Sega's mismanagement. A year ago, I would have agreed that Nintendo plans on selling the Wii U on the tablet gimmick, just like they did the Wii with the motion controls, and the DS with the touchscreen. But I do think that after the initial failure of the 3DS, now they realize that a system is only as good as the games, and so, with the Wii U, their first priority will be to ensure as much first and third party support as they can in the long run. In any case, this is all speculation. We'll find out how it'll unfold soon enough, and it'll be glorious.
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#192 XschlistaX
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Yeah! Announcing a console to come in 2013 would just kill 2012 holiday sales. Also this gives them more time to not be locked in. remember the 360 was originally going to only be 256MB ram not the 512.

Also I have a PC with a high end graphics card and I honestly don't get the fuss. Sure it's better for games designed for PC, but I played ME1 and ME2 on the 360 but bought the PC version on sale. Was thinking about going ME3 on the PC, but after seeing the graphics they really aren't that much better. A game designed for a console will still have console graphics on the PC. Mainly textures and such. Add in Kinect for ME3 and that's the definitive version. Or does the PC version also support kinect?

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#193 Ninja-Hippo
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Wow, not only nothing at E3 but nothing 'anytime soon'. Maybe not even a new xbox announcement this year?
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#194 Jipset
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

"Best year ever for Xbox 360."

Um, yeah...no, not really.

mitu123
Um , yeah ... yes, really

I don't see it.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that year was 2007.
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#195 RandomWinner
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Four years ago I was preaching 2014 as the year the PS4 and 720 would launch.

I'm starting to think I'm right!

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#196 gpuking
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Literally nobody except LoosingEnd would care about M$'s E3 this year then, the relic box only has Halo4 to offer along with a boat load of Kinect craps, if this doesn't spell the end of a cycle then what else?