MS launching $99 360 with subscription

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]Lol we shouldn't have credit cards either by that logicAssassin_87

What do credit cards have to do with this? They serve a long-term purpose and, if used correctly, can be of financial benefit to the cardholder.

This 360 bundle is just crap. And before you jump to defend Microsoft again, I'm not just bashing it because it's coming from MS. This would be a terrible move on the part of any company. But hey, if the largely clueless masses will buy into it then good for MS.

This thread shows the people who are responsible with money and those who arn't.

I hope Forza never has children, he would neglect them and choose to buy luxery items for himself and not provide for his family. And he would teach his children terrible values like being selfish, worshipping massive corproations, not thinking for yourself, bieng closed minded, not knowing the value of money, and just all around being a dousch.

I really have no doubt about it now, ForzaGearsFace is a paid troll by MS.

ShadowMoses900

Wow, that's actually a very good idea, and unlike most subscriptions you're not losing tons of money in the end. It's also great it comes with Gold, which the new consoles do not. Great idea.

I think it's a great deal and so will others, that makes me cluelessForzaGearsFace

I think it's a great deal and so will others, ForzaGearsFace

that makes me clueless, ForzaGearsFace

ok buddy lolForzaGearsFace

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]Lol we shouldn't have credit cards either by that logicAssassin_87

What do credit cards have to do with this? They serve a long-term purpose and, if used correctly, can be of financial benefit to the cardholder.

This 360 bundle is just crap. And before you jump to defend Microsoft again, I'm not just bashing it because it's coming from MS. This would be a terrible move on the part of any company. But hey, if the largely clueless masses will buy into it then good for MS.

Honestly, you can't really blame Microsoft for going through with this. Consumers are dumb, dumb as bricks. If something like this manages to take off and sell really well, it will just be a testament to how dumb society really is, and Microsoft is taking advantage of their lack of intelligence. Lots of companies all over the world could find more success if they just took advantage of the ignorance of consumers.

For example, rather than make quality products, just make a commercial that says it's good, and act like it knows it's good. Just look at musicians, some musicians are terrible, but they create a stigma surrounding them like they're amazing, and act / talk like they're amazing, and people will buy into it. Selling something at a low initial price and including something like monthly fees to make up for it is another tactic made famous by cell phone companies.

Microsoft takes full advantage of both of these tactics. They take advantage of dumb consumers by brainwashing them through marketing, saying games like Kinect Star Wars are excellent and the consumers buy into it and believe it. Then, they create cheap initial price points which are made up for by additional hidden fees or monthly fees. Consumers are ignorant and don't take hidden fees or monthly fees into account, they just see $99 dollars and buy on impulse.

People give consumers too much credit, they aren't smart at all and are very easily deceived.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="The_Pacific"]:lol: 15 bucks for a rip-off service like XBL ? and a 4GB internal HDD won't do crap for games.The_Pacific

[QUOTE="The_Pacific"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] It's more like 2.7GB. And that's more than enough for game saves. :?Stevo_the_gamer

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MS sells low capacity internal HDD knowing that the consumer will eventually run out of memory.

Who on earth would purchase this? Not only does the bundle only include a four gigabyte Xbox 360, which is severely gimped due to space restrictions, but having to pay fifteen dollars per month on top of that is pointless and a waste of money. For all we know Microsoft could announce a new Xbox at E3 this year (Yes, I am aware they said they were not going to announce one, but I doubt they would announce that they ARE), and/or by time the new Xbox launches the money spent on the Xbox 360 plus the subscription fee could probably cover the new Xbox console. :|

[QUOTE="The_Pacific"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] It's more like 2.7GB. And that's more than enough for game saves. :?Stevo_the_gamer

More important than having the ability to download XBLA games is having the ability to install games. That's the number one reason I picked up a 250gb, and later on a 320gb harddrive. I picked up the 4gb Slim, and the console is extremely loud when playing games that aren't installed because the disc drive is very noisy. Installing games disables the use of the disc drive, making the system much quieter. The system probably lasts longer too if you install games and use the disc drive less, because you're putting less wear and tear on the moving parts of the system.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="The_Pacific"] Dude, I have 20GB HDD storage device and can barley manage. This 4GB crap is such a rip-off. What about the people who want XBLA games ? Or the ones that install the disk on their HDD ? Or buy DLC ?rasengan2552

Too bad majority of 360 owners, or customers in general, dont know that 360 hdd are overpriced beyond belief. Even smaller percent knows how to hack cheaper hdd to it.

their only option after is to buy the 250gb HDD, which is $100+ tax ... otherwise you have void warranty to use lesser HDD.. -__- MS sells low capacity internal HDD knowing that the consumer will eventually run out of memory.rasengan2552

Too bad majority of 360 owners, or customers in general, dont know that 360 hdd are overpriced beyond belief. Even smaller percent knows how to hack cheaper hdd to it.

Nohtnym

More important than having the ability to download XBLA games is having the ability to install games. That's the number one reason I picked up a 250gb, and later on a 320gb harddrive.

arkephonic

[QUOTE="Nohtnym"]

Too bad majority of 360 owners, or customers in general, dont know that 360 hdd are overpriced beyond belief. Even smaller percent knows how to hack cheaper hdd to it.

Stevo_the_gamer

More important than having the ability to download XBLA games is having the ability to install games. That's the number one reason I picked up a 250gb, and later on a 320gb harddrive.

arkephonic

I stopped playing my 360 altogether until I bought my harddrive so I could install games. The disc drive was so loud that I didn't even want to use the console.

I have the Slim version as well, and I've used multiple slim versions and they're all loud, mine isn't defective or anything.

The crazy part is, the original 360 model's disc drive is like 2 or 3 times louder than the Slim!

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] their only option after is to buy the 250gb HDD, which is $100+ tax ... otherwise you have void warranty to use lesser HDD.. -__- MS sells low capacity internal HDD knowing that the consumer will eventually run out of memory.Stevo_the_gamer

I stopped playing my 360 altogether until I bought my harddrive so I could install games. The disc drive was so loud that I didn't even want to use the console.

I have the Slim version as well, and I've used multiple slim versions and they're all loud, mine isn't defective or anything.

The crazy part is, the original 360 model's disc drive is like 2 or 3 times louder than the Slim!

arkephonic

and the 250gb HDD is the only official one on the market for the slim model. Anything else inserted in the 360 is a hack.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] their only option after is to buy the 250gb HDD, which is $100+ tax ... otherwise you have void warranty to use lesser HDD.. -__- MS sells low capacity internal HDD knowing that the consumer will eventually run out of memory.rasengan2552

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lol

Are you being serious right now?

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"] I think it's a great deal and so will others, that makes me cluelessclone01

yep we know i think you have me blocked or something, such a wimp

Wow, that's actually a very good idea, and unlike most subscriptions you're not losing tons of money in the end. It's also great it comes with Gold, which the new consoles do not. Great idea.

immortality20

no its microsoft so its bad, and its the only way you can buy a 360 as well, mS is evil

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]That is incorrect. You have the option of purchasing the products I listed. Also, it will void the warranty of the Hard Drive (in this case, the older models), but not the console to my knowledge. If you have an official link showcasing the opposite, please showcase.

Stevo_the_gamer

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lol

Are you being serious right now?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I stopped playing my 360 altogether until I bought my harddrive so I could install games. The disc drive was so loud that I didn't even want to use the console.

I have the Slim version as well, and I've used multiple slim versions and they're all loud, mine isn't defective or anything.

The crazy part is, the original 360 model's disc drive is like 2 or 3 times louder than the Slim!

Stevo_the_gamer

Really? Sounds like you should clean your computer, change case fans (might be loud ones), or you have just bearings broken in them (case, cpu, gpu fan).

This actually worsened my view of MS and XBLG now that I'm associating them with those rip off phone contracts.

Who on earth would purchase this? Not only does the bundle only include a four gigabyte Xbox 360, which is severely gimped due to space restrictions, but having to pay fifteen dollars per month on top of that is pointless and a waste of money. For all we know Microsoft could announce a new Xbox at E3 this year (Yes, I am aware they said they were not going to announce one, but I doubt they would announce that they ARE), and/or by time the new Xbox launches the money spent on the Xbox 360 plus the subscription fee could probably cover the new Xbox console. :|

DarkGamer007

cause its 99 dollars and thats it, why would you ever buy a console with a creditcard? You pay interest on that purchase at like 10 percent sometimes more, why? This deal has no interest, and no taxes, and has a 2 year warranty built in, I say its a good deal, you say its a bad deal, oh well, but it can be offered by Microsoft right? lol or they not allowed to do this?

Thankfully I already have a 360, no plans on getting a Kinect, and don't waste my money on live. I guess this is good for those that have no idea what they're getting themselves into. That's a steep price. Pass.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] No. the console will be voided as well, the 4GB HDD is an internal component within the 360. you don't swap it out for another HDD without voiding the warranty on the entire console. There are links all over the net explaining this.rasengan2552

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lol

Are you being serious right now?

nobody takes you serious, you are so easy to own I dont even try anymore.

just seeing if you'll actually believe and give up ... apparently not lol.rasengan2552

This actually worsened my view of MS and XBLG now that I'm associating them with those rip off phone contracts.

RavenLoud

who cares you are a fanboy of another system and are jealous of the 360 and you never owned one most likely. so shaddaup

Really? Sounds like you should clean your computer, change case fans (might be loud ones), or you have just bearings broken in them (case, cpu, gpu fan).

Nohtnym

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]just seeing if you'll actually believe and give up ... apparently not lol.Stevo_the_gamer

the guy is such a dope, dont even try.

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]just seeing if you'll actually believe and give up ... apparently not lol.Stevo_the_gamer

yep we know i think you have me blocked or something, such a wimpForzaGearsFace

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] Do you know how the HDD work on the 4GB models ? because that is what we're talking about.Stevo_the_gamer

-_-

The only one you're able to insert is the 250gb one they have out for the slim, the older HDDs from the elite, pro, arcade models cannot be inserted into the slim model and you can't swap out the 4gb hdd without voiding warranty.

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]yep we know i think you have me blocked or something, such a wimpclone01

take a look it starts with TIM, i sent you a few messages and you havent replied, probably scared or something.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="rasengan2552"] Do you know how the HDD work on the 4GB models ? because that is what we're talking about.rasengan2552

please shut up, do you ever make a point, sense? Such a clown

Wait wtf...

You dont lose warranty, if you change hdd. Sometimes microsoft doesnt even require you to send the hdd when sending 360 to repair, if the problem is in main parts (cpu,gpu and whatnot). And if the problems is in hdd, you just send it.

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Of course I do, the question is whether you do? And you clearly don't. You don't "swap" out hard drives, you insert the Xbox 360 S HDD into the Hard Drive slot on the 4GB. It's pretty easy to do.ForzaGearsFace

please shut up, do you ever make a point, sense? Such a clown

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] I can look at that, though I've never blocked anyone. What is your PSN Id/Gamertag?clone01

take a look it starts with TIM, i sent you a few messages and you havent replied, probably scared or something.

go check your blocked users, i sent you a few and Im sure you were scared. Go check senor, you pathetic toolbox.

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] Thats what I freaking said on the other page, go back and read it. You're simply just reiterating what I SAID. -_-rasengan2552

please shut up, do you ever make a point, sense? Such a clown

ok clown

Wait wtf...

You dont lose warranty, if you change hdd. Sometimes microsoft doesnt even require you to send the hdd when sending 360 to repair, if the problem is in main parts (cpu,gpu and whatnot). And if the problems is in hdd, you just send it.

Nohtnym

Wait wtf...

You dont lose warranty, if you change hdd. Sometimes microsoft doesnt even require you to send the hdd when sending 360 to repair, if the problem is in main parts (cpu,gpu and whatnot). And if the problems is in hdd, you just send it.

Nohtnym

he is a pathetic fanboy that likes to lie about Microsoft. We got alot in here.

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]go check your blocked users, i sent you a few and Im sure you were scared. Go check senor, you pathetic toolbox. clone01

someone is mad, but when it gets real, they put the block on, lol such a wimp.

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Gaming is a luxery, not a nesseccity, if she is struggling then she has bigger priorities than an Xbox. And even if she did get this deal, it would still be bad, in fact it would hurt her even more because she would end up paying far more than the normal price of an Xbox.

This deal is only bad for the consumer, don't you understand that? It's what in business terms they call an "Anti-Consumer Product", which in short simply means that the consumer/customer of the product or deal get's absolutely nothing out of it while the seller or producer reaps the money.

This is not good business for consumers, all companies exist to make a profit, but there is a right way to get it and a wrong way to get it, this deal isn't providing a product or a service, it's essentially providing nothing. That's why it's anti consumer, the consumer loses.

But like I said before, your probably paid by MS to troll here so.....

ShadowMoses900

Lemmigs always call me that, but no I'm not being egotistical, I'm being responsible.

A struggling single mother should not be buying an Xbox (especially at this deal because it would hurt her even more) she has bigger concerns like taking care of her kids and feedng them. For anyone in that situation to go out and buy an Xbox would make them very irresponsible.

I think your just being selfish because MS pays you for that, really MS should just fire you, your giving them a bad name and discourging people from buying their products. Only a selfish mamzer would want that women who is struggling to feed her kids to rush out and buy an Xbox.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"] :lol: now you tell people what to do with there money depending on their situation? You are one egotistical dudespiderluck

Lemmigs always call me that, but no I'm not being egotistical, I'm being responsible.

A struggling single mother should not be buying an Xbox (especially at this deal because it would hurt her even more) she has bigger concerns like taking care of her kids and feedng them. For anyone in that situation to go out and buy an Xbox would make them very irresponsible.

I think your just being selfish because MS pays you for that, really MS should just fire you, your giving them a bad name and discourging people from buying their products. Only a selfish mamzer would want that women who is struggling to feed her kids to rush out and buy an Xbox.

I dont even wanna tell you what I know about shadow in here, but trust me, he is no person to judge anyone and he is the last person to talk about anyone finances.

[QUOTE="Nohtnym"]

Wait wtf...

You dont lose warranty, if you change hdd. Sometimes microsoft doesnt even require you to send the hdd when sending 360 to repair, if the problem is in main parts (cpu,gpu and whatnot). And if the problems is in hdd, you just send it.

rasengan2552

Ah, I see. You mean if the 99 dollar subs 360 console is S version you only choice is overpriced 250gb hdd.

Edit: And 320 gb