MS says Xbox has the most hardcore players.

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#101 X_CAPCOM_X
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@ni6htmare01 said:
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@ni6htmare01: The point I'm making is that "hardcore" gamers are not preferentially found on one platform. It really depends on the games.

For example, "hardcore" fighting game players still mostly use consoles, because the arcade ports traditionally came to consoles and not PC.

"hardcore" fps players are mostly on PC if we're talking about games like CS and such that are available on the platform, but for games like Halo, "hardcore" players are obviously on xbox.

To reinforce the point, cave games' released some of their famously challenging shoot em ups on mobile phones back in the early 2010s. @mazuiface can comment on this further.

oh I agreed with you totally and that is why I always laugh when I hear people claim to be hardcore gamers because I'm using PC or whatever devices..

Oh for sure my dude. I guess this can just be for everyone else to read then!

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#102 deactivated-6068afec1b77d
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Ha...ha ha...ha

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#103 cainetao11
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in line with what Ubisoft said a couple years ago. On average, Xbox gamers spend 25% more on their products. Attach rate is higher among Xbox players.

Now its a simple thing to poke a hole in. PS puts out more exclusives. But the industry doesn't run on exclusives alone. The vast majority of games I buy every gen are multiplat.

Cyberpunk 2077 just showed how it will in all probability shit all over anything else due out in the next two years so CDPR will still have the GOTG when all is said and done imo. And I will love it on my X1X

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#104  Edited By QuadKnight
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@cainetao11 said:

in line with what Ubisoft said a couple years ago. On average, Xbox gamers spend 25% more on their products. Attach rate is higher among Xbox players.

Now its a simple thing to poke a hole in. PS puts out more exclusives. But the industry doesn't run on exclusives alone. The vast majority of games I buy every gen are multiplat.

Cyberpunk 2077 just showed how it will in all probability shit all over anything else due out in the next two years so CDPR will still have the GOTG when all is said and done imo. And I will love it on my X1X

They were talking about microtransactions. In actual revenue, Ubisoft make an overwhelming majority of their money from PS4.

I don't think spending more money on loot crates and microtransactions makes one a hardcore gamer otherwise COD would be the most hardcore game out there lol. It also makes sense that Xbox has a higher attachment rate for multiplats given how dry their first party lineup is.

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#105 Ant_17
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@cainetao11 said:

in line with what Ubisoft said a couple years ago. On average, Xbox gamers spend 25% more on their products. Attach rate is higher among Xbox players.

Now its a simple thing to poke a hole in. PS puts out more exclusives. But the industry doesn't run on exclusives alone. The vast majority of games I buy every gen are multiplat.

Cyberpunk 2077 just showed how it will in all probability shit all over anything else due out in the next two years so CDPR will still have the GOTG when all is said and done imo. And I will love it on my X1X

For Ubisoft.

Don't see the others saying that, like EA, 2K or Activision.

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#106 Zappat
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@Ant_17: I agree. They are hardcore, no other fanboys could stand so much time without games.

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#107 PC_Rocks
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Man like these make my blood boil. These idiots are paid what a quarter million dollars a year for saying such stupid shit in public while the game devs have to live under the fear of being laid out in case their game doesn't perform well.

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#108 robert_sparkes
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Difficult to take anything ms say seriously. This coming from a ms fan I've felt let down this gen.

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#109 hrt_rulz01
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@robert_sparkes said:

Difficult to take anything ms say seriously. This coming from a ms fan I've felt let down this gen.

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#110 ahmedkhan1994
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If anybody considers themselves hardcore towards gaming they would not be an xbox only player.

The only people i see on xbox now are people who hate japanese games and people who dont care about gaming anymore, and all in all just casuals, which is the reason why MS gets away with offering the bare minimum.

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#111 Fedor
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@hrt_rulz01: So its not possible for a fan of MS to be disappointed in the xone? Thats some strong fanboyism you have there.

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#112 hrt_rulz01
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@fedor: Yes of course it is. But I'm questioning whether he is actually an "MS fan"... I'm sceptical.

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#113 Fedor
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@hrt_rulz01: I skimmed a bit of his history and it doesnt seem derogatory towards MS at all.

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#114 hrt_rulz01
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@fedor: I'm pretty sure I've seen anti-Xbox/pro-PS posts from him... but maybe I'm mistaken. Idk. I'm just sceptical.

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#115 tgob89
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@fedor said:

@hrt_rulz01: I skimmed a bit of his history and it doesnt seem derogatory towards MS at all.

Every post I've seen that guy make has been either his hype or disappointment in MS this gen.

I've never seen him bash MS but hes' probably the most transparent xbox fan I've seen on this board with his feelings about MS's direction.

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#116  Edited By cainetao11
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@quadknight said:
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in line with what Ubisoft said a couple years ago. On average, Xbox gamers spend 25% more on their products. Attach rate is higher among Xbox players.

Now its a simple thing to poke a hole in. PS puts out more exclusives. But the industry doesn't run on exclusives alone. The vast majority of games I buy every gen are multiplat.

Cyberpunk 2077 just showed how it will in all probability shit all over anything else due out in the next two years so CDPR will still have the GOTG when all is said and done imo. And I will love it on my X1X

They were talking about microtransactions. In actual revenue, Ubisoft make an overwhelming majority of their money from PS4.

I don't think spending more money on loot crates and microtransactions makes one a hardcore gamer otherwise COD would be the most hardcore game out there lol. It also makes sense that Xbox has a higher attachment rate for multiplats given how dry their first party lineup is.

I don't recall mentioning the term "hardcore gamer" in my post.

I merely mentioned how a third party Publisher put out the statement a couple of years ago how Xbox players spend more money on their products. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/02/ubisoft-suggests-xbox-one-owners-are-more-valuable-than-ps4-owners/

Bro, did you even read my post? I clearly said you can poke a hole in this easily because PS puts out more exclusives.

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#117 cainetao11
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@Ant_17 said:
@cainetao11 said:

in line with what Ubisoft said a couple years ago. On average, Xbox gamers spend 25% more on their products. Attach rate is higher among Xbox players.

Now its a simple thing to poke a hole in. PS puts out more exclusives. But the industry doesn't run on exclusives alone. The vast majority of games I buy every gen are multiplat.

Cyberpunk 2077 just showed how it will in all probability shit all over anything else due out in the next two years so CDPR will still have the GOTG when all is said and done imo. And I will love it on my X1X

For Ubisoft.

Don't see the others saying that, like EA, 2K or Activision.

Well that would explain this cainetao guy ONLY mentioning Ubisoft. Good call Sherlock Holmes!