MS: Technology in unannounced 360 exclusives will 'far surpass' anything to date

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#352 XturnalS
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[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]360 will never have a game that looks leaps and bounds over killzone 2. GEARS 2 looks last gen almost compared to Killzone 2..McdonaIdsGuy
Like you would know lol ,are you a game developer? and your username doesn't fit you..you sound more like a fanboy.

If thats not the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is.
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#353 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]The damage control stills going on?McdonaIdsGuy
Well, since MS so far released only this DC shown in the opening post, I wouldn't say it's still going on.

I see more sony fanboys damage control than anything else.

What is there to damage control exactly?
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#354 DonPerian
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Glad to see they acknowledge Guerilla Games. Should be interesting to see if they were just blowing PR smoke or if there's something out there that can potentially surpass Killzone 2. Like others have said, until then, I won't worry about it and enjoy playing games that have been announced and released. Plenty of eye candy to suffice my visual hunger - from Killzone 2 to Gears of War 2.
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#355 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Well, since MS so far released only this DC shown in the opening post, I wouldn't say it's still going on. nervmeister
I see more sony fanboys damage control than anything else.

What is there to damage control exactly?

Downplaying the article and that's ironic cows post all the time news from crappy websites to claim ownage and everyone is forced to believe because so random guys has ''insider info'',of course all those news are pro PS3 so it most true..but if is something related with the Wii or 360 is pure BS.
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#356 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"] I see more sony fanboys damage control than anything else.

What is there to damage control exactly?

Downplaying the article and that's ironic cows post all the time news from crappy websites to claim ownage and everyone is forced to believe because so random guys has ''insider info'',of course all those news are pro PS3 so it most true..but if is something related with the Wii or 360 is pure BS.

I understand where your coming from, but how can you call downplaying an article with a severely unsupported claim of future graphical dominance for a console "damage control"?
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#357 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]What is there to damage control exactly?nervmeister
Downplaying the article and that's ironic cows post all the time news from crappy websites to claim ownage and everyone is forced to believe because so random guys has ''insider info'',of course all those news are pro PS3 so it most true..but if is something related with the Wii or 360 is pure BS.

I understand where your coming from, but how can you call downplaying an article with a severely unsupported claim of future graphical dominance for a console "damage control"?

18 pages both sides damage controlling..
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#358 imprezawrx500
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beginning of a new wave? that started in November 2007 and has now finished it seems.
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#359 ZoomZoom2490
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not being able to fix the rrod problem since the 360 launched and denying about it in the beggining is not going to help MS to get people to believe these funny lies.

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#360 wooooode
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The statement does not say anything about a "360 game" for all we know it can be a PC game which would make more sense.
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#361 vlens
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]i had a feeling about this, although halo odst will only be an expansion pack, i think the entire creation of this project is about proving the 360 is capable of equal or better graphics than killzone 2 and if anyone can pull it off it's bungie, and like i said, it may only be an expansion, but if the graphics are equal to killzone it will be enough to prove the 360 is not inferior to the ps3. and unlike sony,MS are not fond of making false statements about what there hardware can do, so far (apart from RROD) the 360 has done ecxactly what MS has said it could do, it's nice to see MS praising sony for killzone 2, especially whe all sony has done is put MS down,shame on you sonySpruceCaboose
Why would you feel that Bungie could do it? None of their games on the Xbox platform have pushed the system. Halo CE and Halo 2 were overshadowed on the Xbox, and Halo 3 has been overshadowed on the 360 in terms of visuals. Their games are polished and solid, but they have never been jaw-droppers when compared to other titles.

When halo:ce and halo 2 came out, they were graphically the best you can get on the xbox! halo:ce got a 9/10 for it's graphics at gamespot and that was only because it was 30 fps! The rest was beatifull

But yea, gameplay was always the most important thing for them!

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#362 jeezers
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The statement does not say anything about a "360 game" for all we know it can be a PC game which would make more sense.wooooode
good point, i think your the first to mention this. i guess eveyone forgot about games for windows, microsofts second platform XD
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#363 AAllxxjjnn
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The statement does not say anything about a "360 game" for all we know it can be a PC game which would make more sense.wooooode
? "The current technology employed for certain unannounced Xbox 360 exclusives far surpasses what gamers have seen in any game so far. "
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#364 campzor
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[QUOTE="Joust_"]

So after 4 years on being on the market, the console suddenly has hidden powers 4 days after KZ2 gets released?

Yes MS, we believe you.:roll:

Bump this quote I'd like to see what people say about this.
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#365 Zerocrossings
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Haha Crysis wont get owned.
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#366 ToScA-
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[QUOTE="Joust_"]

So after 4 years on being on the market, the console suddenly has hidden powers 4 days after KZ2 gets released?

Yes MS, we believe you.:roll:

campzor
Bump this quote I'd like to see what people say about this.

There was no need to put tremendous resources into a technically "awesome" game from their 1st party lab whilst Gears 2 practically was deemed graphics king among the consoles. Perhaps they thought twice about it when they witnessed Killzone 2? And just because this claim showed up four days after Killzone 2's release doesn't mean that such a game hasn't been in development for years.
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#367 wackapacka
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]Remember those "Doom 3 has better textures and lighting than Crysis" threads. Man those were funny :lol:thegoldenpoo
From Woobabooba? Lol yeah, he's still around with his 1001st account. Also: "no rocketjump, deticated crouch button, etc. is fail" :lol:

Who was the dude who swore blind that Fable 2 looked better than STALKER; Clear Sky and killzone 2? He was lulzy too, but i think he may have been serious :|

That was Obamanian
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#368 LunchBox-
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all lies. dont believe these people
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#369 AnnoyedDragon
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From what I read from the news story Microsoft said nothing about Crysis, the fanboy who posted the link on the other hand...
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#370 ImOldGreg
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="delta3074"]i had a feeling about this, although halo odst will only be an expansion pack, i think the entire creation of this project is about proving the 360 is capable of equal or better graphics than killzone 2 and if anyone can pull it off it's bungie, and like i said, it may only be an expansion, but if the graphics are equal to killzone it will be enough to prove the 360 is not inferior to the ps3. and unlike sony,MS are not fond of making false statements about what there hardware can do, so far (apart from RROD) the 360 has done ecxactly what MS has said it could do, it's nice to see MS praising sony for killzone 2, especially whe all sony has done is put MS down,shame on you sonyvlens

Why would you feel that Bungie could do it? None of their games on the Xbox platform have pushed the system. Halo CE and Halo 2 were overshadowed on the Xbox, and Halo 3 has been overshadowed on the 360 in terms of visuals. Their games are polished and solid, but they have never been jaw-droppers when compared to other titles.

When halo:ce and halo 2 came out, they were graphically the best you can get on the xbox! halo:ce got a 9/10 for it's graphics at gamespot and that was only because it was 30 fps! The rest was beatifull

But yea, gameplay was always the most important thing for them!

....Umm Bungie have already stated that ODST will be running on the EXACT same engine as Halo 3.
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#371 rgame1
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whatever ms...
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#372 Elite-Realist
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I would like to see a proof of this technological jump!!
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#373 GreyFoXX4
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Guys that keep bringing up crysis needs to understand that it only wins with its graphics cause of the sheer size of the levels and its vegitation. Killzone 2 does things that actually does make crysis look a little last gen. Such as the lighting effects, particle effects (sparks bouncing off of the floor), weather effects, physics ( nail gun or wind blowing grenades, walls crumbling with explosions) animations, motion blur that is used, depth of field vision and just the shear amount of action taking place on screen with all of the effects at full storm. Crysis is really good for screen shots and such or out door photos but when the action hits the fan nothing beats killzone 2.

And I really like crysis and its SP and it is awesome for what it does for the size of the enviroments. But definitly give props to killzone 2 for what its doing aswell for only running on a console.

Compare the weapons for a second between kz2 and crysis.

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#375 GreyFoXX4
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[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]Killzone 2 does things that actually does make crysis look a little last genMcdonaIdsGuy
And there is where people should stop reading lol,obvious fanboy is obvious...

Not really just beat the game last wed. and I definitely say its beautiful. But also recognize it has faults or stuff that killzone 2 does better. Have you played crysis and kz2? If not then maybe I'm not the fanboy here. I just got my new pc rig 1 1/2 weeks ago and first game I got was crysis beat it on wed last week and got KZ2 thur. night at midnight and beat it by Sat evening. And if you look at my profile and in my games list is crysis and I scored it myself at 9.5, and actually the game to me was alot better than I was expecting since most just talk about thegraphics, but the gameplay I thought was very good aswell. But it doesn't by no mean have the amount of action crammed into like killzone 2 does.

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#376 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]Killzone 2 does things that actually does make crysis look a little last genGreyFoXX4
And there is where people should stop reading lol,obvious fanboy is obvious...

Not really just beat the game last wed. and I definitly say its beatiful. But also recognize it has faults or stuff that killzone 2 does better. Have you played crysis and kz2? If not then maybe I'm not the fanboy here. I just got my new pc rig 1 1/2 weeks ago and first game I got was crysis beat it on wed last week and got KZ2 thur. night at midnight and beat it by Sat evening. And if you look at my profile and in my games list is crysis and I scored it myself at 9.5, and actually the game to me was alot better than I was expecting since most just talk about eh grahics, but the gameplay I thought was very good aswell.

Yes i played both and you're wrong,KZ2 doesn't beat crysis in anything,in fact is just plain dumb to compare a game on PC that crushes the other in so many levels,and instead of using GS screenshots why not your owns?
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#377 McdonaIdsGuy
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These are real particle effect and explosions

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#378 Cedmln
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Well. Lets see Microsoft. Don't talk it if you don't walk it. Same goes for God.
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#379 mitu123
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It'll be awesome if they announce a new Conker, or KI III.crazy-player
Or Perfect Dark 2.
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#380 CubanBlunt
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"We congratulate Sony and Guerilla Games for their efforts with Killzone 2, however this is only the beginning of a new wave. The current technology employed for certain unannounced Xbox 360 exclusives far surpasses what gamers have seen in any game so far. Gears of War was the beginning of this technological benchmark when released on the 360 and this lineage will be carried forward in the following months with exclusives that shall stand for a new definition of gaming experience and provide stiff competition for the opposition."

http://www.gameguru.in/microsoft-xbox-360/2009/02/future-xbox-360-exclusives-will-surpass-killzone-2-microsoft/

Killzone 2 and Crysis going to get owned.

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Microsoft gets owned with Killzone 2 and still can't give Sony it's full props.

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#381 xsubtownerx
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From what I read from the news story Microsoft said nothing about Crysis, the fanboy who posted the link on the other hand...AnnoyedDragon
Correct. All they mentioned was Killzone 2. TC is the one that mentioned Crysis.
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#382 Salt_The_Fries
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Look at the bump-mapping on the sand!

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#383 LinKuei_warrior
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I figured this thread can use the light of day since GDC is around.:)

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#384 lolfaqs
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I might believe M$ if they could only come up with the technology to 'far surpass' all of their previous efforts to stamp out RROD, E74, and god knows what else can cause a 360 to die.

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#385 Slambo86
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its just more hype, most likely be a small corridor shooter and be on the level of K2...to bad Uncharted 2 and GOW3 will stomp on this so called new wave of 360 titles.
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#386 lundy86_4
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Well of course the technology will far surpass anything to date, otherwise the 360 exclusive announced might just be plain old boring... why do they have to state this, because if it falls short, it just looks bad on them. Hopefully we'll see something interesting though

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#387 II_Seraphim_II
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Im just gonna throw sumthing out there regarding KZ2 and Crysis; Crysis completely destroys KZ2 in the graphics department, but I have to say that KZ2 has better looking guns. I like all the little details and special effects they used so the guns look real. The blur at the butt side of the gun is especially done very well :D
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#388 Slambo86
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Im just gonna throw sumthing out there regarding KZ2 and Crysis; Crysis completely destroys KZ2 in the graphics department, but I have to say that KZ2 has better looking guns. I like all the little details and special effects they used so the guns look real. The blur at the butt side of the gun is especially done very well :DII_Seraphim_II
Definitely, I managed to get the gun under certain lighting this one time in multiplayer, and it almost looked like a real freakin gun. Same goes for some textures through out the game. Incredible. Crysis for obvious reasons has more sheer detail. So it's overall the better looking game.
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#389 McdonaIdsGuy
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Im just gonna throw sumthing out there regarding KZ2 and Crysis; Crysis completely destroys KZ2 in the graphics department, but I have to say that KZ2 has better looking guns. I like all the little details and special effects they used so the guns look real. The blur at the butt side of the gun is especially done very well :DII_Seraphim_II
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#390 bam706
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i love killzone2 but crysis still looks better,I hope microsoft can surpass kz2, i wonna see even better looking games in the future which i believe the ps3 will and can pull off.

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#391 mitu123
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Well of course the technology will far surpass anything to date, otherwise the 360 exclusive announced might just be plain old boring... why do they have to state this, because if it falls short, it just looks bad on them. Hopefully we'll see something interesting though

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I would like to see 360 exclusives pushed to their limits tbh.
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#392 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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omg cows kz2 gonna get owned AAAA year of the 360 lolololol