MS: We'll support Blu-ray

MS: we'll support Blu-ray

Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer said at the Mix08 conference, that they have moved on since HD-DVD's demise and that they will support Blu-ray. "We've already been working on, for example, in Windows, device driver support for Blu-ray drives and the like, and I think the world moves on. Toshiba has moved on. We've moved on, and we'll support Blu-ray in ways that make sense." he said.

"We've already been working on, for example, in Windows, device driver support for Blu-ray drives and the like, and I think the world moves on. Toshiba has moved on. We've moved on, and we'll support Blu-ray in ways that make sense."

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=25916

MS isnt owned.. im so glad the xbox 360 wasnt delayed over a year to Add the bluray drive, meanwhile it has produced the best console games so far this gen..which is more then half over. The next gen xbox will clearly have an updated drive... and will be here in 2010.Bdking57

My thoughts exactly. Besides, whether MS makes money off of Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, I don't think they really care, they are still making money.

[QUOTE="Bdking57"]MS isnt owned.. im so glad the xbox 360 wasnt delayed over a year to Add the bluray drive, meanwhile it has produced the best console games so far this gen..which is more then half over. The next gen xbox will clearly have an updated drive... and will be here in 2010.aliasfreak

My thoughts exactly. Besides, whether MS makes money off of Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, I don't think they really care, they are still making money.

[QUOTE="aliasfreak"]

[QUOTE="Bdking57"]MS isnt owned.. im so glad the xbox 360 wasnt delayed over a year to Add the bluray drive, meanwhile it has produced the best console games so far this gen..which is more then half over. The next gen xbox will clearly have an updated drive... and will be here in 2010.deadmeat59

My thoughts exactly. Besides, whether MS makes money off of Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, I don't think they really care, they are still making money.

MS isnt owned.. im so glad the xbox 360 wasnt delayed over a year to Add the bluray drive, meanwhile it has produced the best console games so far this gen..which is more then half over. The next gen xbox will clearly have an updated drive... and will be here in 2010.Bdking57

Yes, because Microsoft coming out early with the 360 enabled the hardware to be quite sturdy and trustworthy, its not like there was anything called the RROD. . .:roll:

Alan

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"][QUOTE="aliasfreak"]

[QUOTE="Bdking57"]MS isnt owned.. im so glad the xbox 360 wasnt delayed over a year to Add the bluray drive, meanwhile it has produced the best console games so far this gen..which is more then half over. The next gen xbox will clearly have an updated drive... and will be here in 2010.myLIFEjustFINE

My thoughts exactly. Besides, whether MS makes money off of Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, I don't think they really care, they are still making money.

Yeah thats been pretty true for me.

MS owned-D3MO-

Because they are making use of the accepted tech? OK. You know that weren't part of the HD-DVD group, right? I am assuming (yes assuming) MS supported HD-DVD to slow down Sony. Maybe, but either way I can only see a fanboy (yes a fanboy) making the statement you did.

so Bluray not useless anymore right?joeychew

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]MS owneddhjohns

Because they are making use of the accepted tech? OK. You know that weren't part of the HD-DVD group, right? I am assuming (yes assuming) MS supported HD-DVD to slow down Sony. Maybe, but either way I can only see a fanboy (yes a fanboy) making the statement you did.

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]MS owneddhjohns

Because they are making use of the accepted tech? OK. You know that weren't part of the HD-DVD group, right? I am assuming (yes assuming) MS supported HD-DVD to slow down Sony. Maybe, but either way I can only see a fanboy (yes a fanboy) making the statement you did.

[QUOTE="dhjohns"]

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]MS owned-D3MO-

Because they are making use of the accepted tech? OK. You know that weren't part of the HD-DVD group, right? I am assuming (yes assuming) MS supported HD-DVD to slow down Sony. Maybe, but either way I can only see a fanboy (yes a fanboy) making the statement you did.

like i've said....so everytime a company uses Windows on their pc's im guessing that means they are officially Microsoft's bi%tch?

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="dhjohns"]

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]MS ownedmyLIFEjustFINE

Because they are making use of the accepted tech? OK. You know that weren't part of the HD-DVD group, right? I am assuming (yes assuming) MS supported HD-DVD to slow down Sony. Maybe, but either way I can only see a fanboy (yes a fanboy) making the statement you did.

like i've said....so everytime a company uses Windows on their pc's im guessing that means they are officially Microsoft's bi%tch?

[QUOTE="dhjohns"]

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]MS owned-D3MO-

Because they are making use of the accepted tech? OK. You know that weren't part of the HD-DVD group, right? I am assuming (yes assuming) MS supported HD-DVD to slow down Sony. Maybe, but either way I can only see a fanboy (yes a fanboy) making the statement you did.

Obviously you haven't even run a lemon-aid stand. Your lack of understanding of business is obvious in your post. The world of business is not a zero sum game. It is more complicated than that. Sony, definitely won, but I don't see how MS lost. The fact it took so long for blu-ray to be declared the winner should be somewhat informative to you.

This really has more to do with pc's and windows rather than the 360 and gaming......Neontope

Actually, not quite. With the reports that Micro is working on a Blu external drive or even perhaps a new sku with an internal one, this piece of information is quite pertinent. With Balmer now confirming that they are supporting Blu in their products, its lends more credance to the possibility of a blu drive for the 360. With Blu being one of the main points separating the PS3 and the 360, this is important.

Alan

this isn't 'MS owned' the whole thing with blue ray was never gona push ps3's anyway, im a tech nerd and even i think its a waste of time half the time to get your mivies in high def. at least this brings some consistancy to the marketthegoldenpoo

Actually it has pused PS3's as I know quite a few who purchased one strictly because its a superb blu ray player so your argument fails.

Alan

I remember how prideful Sony was when Beta Max got turfed, they were the last company to the VHS table years after the Beta Format was long gone,

The bottom-line is that Blu-Ray is the future, and getting aboard now with an add on makes logical sense,

With less then 10% of US homes having an HD TV and less then 1% having one that can display 1080p, giving users who want a Blu-Ray player the option is a good call.

this isn't 'MS owned' the whole thing with blue ray was never gona push ps3's anyway, im a tech nerd and even i think its a waste of time half the time to get your mivies in high def. at least this brings some consistancy to the marketthegoldenpoo

Aside from Warhawk now, my PS3 is soley a Blu-Ray player.

And a darn good one!

[QUOTE="dhjohns"]

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]MS ownedBreakingPoint8

Because they are making use of the accepted tech? OK. You know that weren't part of the HD-DVD group, right? I am assuming (yes assuming) MS supported HD-DVD to slow down Sony. Maybe, but either way I can only see a fanboy (yes a fanboy) making the statement you did.

Just like DVD had a up hill battle with VHS and CD's had a up hill battle with tapes. Its here now, you can stop hatin'

*shock* .... not

What do people expect? Obviously they are going to support it. Are you suprised or something TC?

*shock* .... not

What do people expect? Obviously they are going to support it. Are you suprised or something TC?

rimnet00

No. . . I simply posted the news.

Alan

MS owned-D3MO-

explain how microsoft was owned. if anything toshiba was owned because the backed it, microsoft had no stake in hd dvd.

so Bluray not useless anymore right?joeychew

for games it is, the 360 will only use it for movies.

[QUOTE="dhjohns"]

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]MS owned-D3MO-

Because they are making use of the accepted tech? OK. You know that weren't part of the HD-DVD group, right? I am assuming (yes assuming) MS supported HD-DVD to slow down Sony. Maybe, but either way I can only see a fanboy (yes a fanboy) making the statement you did.

you don't know what you're talking about. microsoft didn't invest **** in hd dvd, they only released an addon to try to slow down sony.

I remember how prideful Sony was when Beta Max got turfed, they were the last company to the VHS table years after the Beta Format was long gone,

The bottom-line is that Blu-Ray is the future, and getting aboard now with an add on makes logical sense,

With less then 10% of US homes having an HD TV and less then 1% having one that can display 1080p, giving users who want a Blu-Ray player the option is a good call.

cosmostein77

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]MS ownedshoeman12

explain how microsoft was owned. if anything toshiba was owned because the backed it, microsoft had no stake in hd dvd.

Well, you are correct that Toshiba has been owned more than Microsoft, however Micro has been owned none the less. Anytime you back a product like Microsoft did and it fails, you are owned if you will. According to many, Microsoft desired that the format war continue for years so that it would have ample time to make Live the definitive method to get movies and by Blu winning quite early, Microsoft wasn't successful in their goal.

Alan

so Bluray not useless anymore right?joeychew

MS just owned its HDDVD customers. But then again I don't expect anything different from a company which puts out faulty hardware and went through a raft of dodgy OS before it hit upon a good one.Hoobinator

how did ms own them? the buyers knew hd dvd might not win. it's not like their players will cease to exist, and they can get a bunch of hd dvd's for $5 as opposed to $30 blu rays.

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]MS just owned its HDDVD customers. But then again I don't expect anything different from a company which puts out faulty hardware and went through a raft of dodgy OS before it hit upon a good one.shoeman12

how did ms own them? the buyers knew hd dvd might not win. it's not like their players will cease to exist, and they can get a bunch of hd dvd's for $5 as opposed to $30 blu rays.

Supporting a format and bang, within a year no support. Bandwagon jumping MS. Evil pathetic company.

Plus it makes the worst games hardware in the history of videogames.

I remember how prideful Sony was when Beta Max got turfed, they were the last company to the VHS table years after the Beta Format was long gone,

The bottom-line is that Blu-Ray is the future, and getting aboard now with an add on makes logical sense,

With less then 10% of US homes having an HD TV and less then 1% having one that can display 1080p, giving users who want a Blu-Ray player the option is a good call.

cosmostein77

Actually, that number isn't correct.

http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=39288

"The Consumer Electronics Association (CEA) predicts 16 million high-definition televisions (HDTV) will sell in 2007 bringing the total number of HDTVs sold in the U.S. to 52.5 million. Thirty percent of U.S. households now have an HDTV, likely rising to 36 percent by the end of this year. Among these HDTV households, almost a third own more than one high-definition set, proving the booming nature of this market."

Alan

[QUOTE="cosmostein77"]

I remember how prideful Sony was when Beta Max got turfed, they were the last company to the VHS table years after the Beta Format was long gone,

The bottom-line is that Blu-Ray is the future, and getting aboard now with an add on makes logical sense,

With less then 10% of US homes having an HD TV and less then 1% having one that can display 1080p, giving users who want a Blu-Ray player the option is a good call.

scoobiesnackarf

Actually, that number isn't correct.

http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=39288

"The Consumer Electronics Association (CEA) predicts 16 million high-definition televisions (HDTV) will sell in 2007 bringing the total number of HDTVs sold in the U.S. to 52.5 million. Thirty percent of U.S. households now have an HDTV, likely rising to 36 percent by the end of this year. Among these HDTV households, almost a third own more than one high-definition set, proving the booming nature of this market."

Alan

[QUOTE="cosmostein77"]

I remember how prideful Sony was when Beta Max got turfed, they were the last company to the VHS table years after the Beta Format was long gone,

The bottom-line is that Blu-Ray is the future, and getting aboard now with an add on makes logical sense,

With less then 10% of US homes having an HD TV and less then 1% having one that can display 1080p, giving users who want a Blu-Ray player the option is a good call.

scoobiesnackarf

Actually, that number isn't correct.

http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=39288

"The Consumer Electronics Association (CEA) predicts 16 million high-definition televisions (HDTV) will sell in 2007 bringing the total number of HDTVs sold in the U.S. to 52.5 million. Thirty percent of U.S. households now have an HDTV, likely rising to 36 percent by the end of this year. Among these HDTV households, almost a third own more than one high-definition set, proving the booming nature of this market."

Alan

so Bluray not useless anymore right?joeychew

For movies. Digital Distribution is the future.

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]MS ownedshoeman12

explain how microsoft was owned. if anything toshiba was owned because the backed it, microsoft had no stake in hd dvd.

How were they owned? Easy, Microsoft lost out on a lot of liscensing fees. Microsoft video codec, VC-1, was standard on HD DVD where on Blu-ray it is not. Studios are free to use other HD video codecs on Blu-ray. Microsoft also loses out on iHD, which is their programming language used on HD DVD's interactive menus. Blu-ray uses Sun's Java language.

[QUOTE="joeychew"]so Bluray not useless anymore right?MadExponent

For movies. Digital Distribution is the future.

The question is how far into the future? Right now, many still don't have DSL, let alone cable or fiberoptics. Do you honestly think that people are going to just stop purchasing discs for movies? People continue to purchase cd's even though itunes has become so popular, and those are just 4-5 mbs. Then, when it comes to digital distribution, people want to be able to burn their movie to a disc which right now isn't possible through such services like live, apple tv, etc... Whether you like it or not, there is atleast one if not two more generations of hard media left before a true digital distribution as the definitive format of media delivery.

Alan

From my point of view MS has not been owned that's just a fanboys opinion! This is just business Sony needs Microsoft just as much as MS needs Sony, let me elaborate, without MS support Sony can't sell Blueray drives for PCs because guess what Windows is the most operating system used in the world, and if MS denies to help Sony there is no chance in hell for these drives to be install on a Windows base computer, so what will Sony have left?? try to convince everybody in the world to change from Windows to Linux or to other operating system??? yeah right, like that's ever going to happen. They'll have to negotiate with MS in order for their drives to run on Windows computers.

MS needs Sony too, because if BR is the final winner people eventually will leave their trusty dvds and start the new digital era, so they will demand that their new computer has a BR player or they will not buy it, they will stick with the old one and just updated.

So you see, it's not about who has been owned or what it's all about the money and both companies need each other to make more money! period!

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]MS ownedgmastersexay

explain how microsoft was owned. if anything toshiba was owned because the backed it, microsoft had no stake in hd dvd.

How were they owned? Easy, Microsoft lost out on a lot of liscensing fees. Microsoft video codec, VC-1, was standard on HD DVD where on Blu-ray it is not. Studios are free to use other HD video codecs on Blu-ray. Microsoft also loses out on iHD, which is their programming language used on HD DVD's interactive menus. Blu-ray uses Sun's Java language.

Exactly. Micro went to Sony and offered iHD for blu and Sony declined which caused Micro to push Toshiba to create HDDVD. With Blu winning, Microsoft loses out on quite a few liscensing fees that they otherwise would have been able to claim.

Alan

[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"][QUOTE="dhjohns"]

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]MS ownedCubanBlunt

Because they are making use of the accepted tech? OK. You know that weren't part of the HD-DVD group, right? I am assuming (yes assuming) MS supported HD-DVD to slow down Sony. Maybe, but either way I can only see a fanboy (yes a fanboy) making the statement you did.

Just like DVD had a up hill battle with VHS and CD's had a up hill battle with tapes. Its here now, you can stop hatin'

You completely missed the point, but why don't I find that surprising.

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]

[QUOTE="joeychew"]so Bluray not useless anymore right?scoobiesnackarf

For movies. Digital Distribution is the future.

The question is how far into the future? Right now, many still don't have DSL, let alone cable or fiberoptics. Do you honestly think that people are going to just stop purchasing discs for movies? People continue to purchase cd's even though itunes has become so popular, and those are just 4-5 mbs. Then, when it comes to digital distribution, people want to be able to burn their movie to a disc which right now isn't possible through such services like live, apple tv, etc... Whether you like it or not, there is atleast one if not two more generations of hard media left before a true digital distribution as the definitive format of media delivery.

Alan

What you say its true.. however, look at Blockbuster or even BestBuy/Target/WalMart they dont even sell any VHS. That was like 10 years ago, now more people are looking into High Def and Blu Ray is the only way to go. Sure its expensive, but give it a couple of years and im sure you will see as much Blu Ray movies for sale rather than DVDs. As for the itunes and CDs, not to many people can plug their ipods into their cars, so they rather buy CDs in stead

MS: we'll support Blu-ray

Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer said at the Mix08 conference, that they have moved on since HD-DVD's demise and that they will support Blu-ray. "We've already been working on, for example, in Windows, device driver support for Blu-ray drives and the like, and I think the world moves on. Toshiba has moved on. We've moved on, and we'll support Blu-ray in ways that make sense." he said.

quote:

"We've already been working on, for example, in Windows, device driver support for Blu-ray drives and the like, and I think the world moves on. Toshiba has moved on. We've moved on, and we'll support Blu-ray in ways that make sense."

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=25916

scoobiesnackarf