multiplats don't reach ps3's full potential?

its the lossless audio. FLAC is extremely data intensive already, but considering its 7.1 is just on a whole new level. The game also has about 10 hours of dialogue as well, which is also lossless.zero_snake99

The only people who care about losseless audio is audiophiles for expensive audio setups, something all Playstation users seemed to mysteriously become over night. The vast majority of games, in other words most games not on Playstation 3, sound just fine without uncompressed audio

As I said earlier in this thread I don't think Blu-ray will really be that useful this generation. Art assets are being limited by hardware capability rather than storage in the vast majority of cases, Rage being the exception. Plus the issues with content development costs this generation prevent developers from producing enough content to take advantage of Blue-ray.

Next generation when consoles are equipped with 1GB+ Vram and use models several fold as complex as today's; then the storage will be required as opposed to a luxury. People forget that when they make threads like this, PS3 cannot run the sort of textures and other such art assets that would require Blu-ray storage.

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Zero_epyon

That was a joke. "Possible the largest game ever created, compressed taking up all 50 gigs of the blu ray disk". I could get the game compress all the textures and sound files and I could easily drop I'd say about 30 gigs. MGS4 only went through a mild compression, they could fit MGS4 on 2 DVD's easily. But if you don't have to compress your things why bother, but MGS4 was FAR from compressed...

lol xbox vs ps2.....xbox multiplats looked better, xbox360 is more powerful so multiplats look better damnyoyodamn

so if the xbox360 is more powerful then why is killzone 2 the current graphics king

and uncharted 2 got best graphics at E3 2009 not alan wake which is on pace to be the best looking game on the xbox 360

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]its the lossless audio. FLAC is extremely data intensive already, but considering its 7.1 is just on a whole new level. The game also has about 10 hours of dialogue as well, which is also lossless.AnnoyedDragon

The only people who care about losseless audio is audiophiles for expensive audio setups, something all Playstation users seemed to mysteriously become over night. The vast majority of games, in other words most games not on Playstation 3, sound just fine without uncompressed audio

As I said earlier in this thread I don't think Blu-ray will really be that useful this generation. Art assets are being limited by hardware capability rather than storage in the vast majority of cases, Rage being the exception. Plus the issues with content development costs this generation prevent developers from producing enough content to take advantage of Blue-ray.

Next generation when consoles are equipped with 1GB+ Vram and use models several fold as complex as today's; then the storage will be required as opposed to a luxury. People forget that when they make threads like this, PS3 cannot run the sort of textures and other such art assets that would require Blu-ray storage.

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SexySasquatch11

That was a joke. "Possible the largest game ever created, compressed taking up all 50 gigs of the blu ray disk". I could get the game compress all the textures and sound files and I could easily drop I'd say about 30 gigs. MGS4 only went through a mild compression, they could fit MGS4 on 2 DVD's easily. But if you don't have to compress your things why bother, but MGS4 was FAR from compressed...

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zero_snake99

That was a joke. "Possible the largest game ever created, compressed taking up all 50 gigs of the blu ray disk". I could get the game compress all the textures and sound files and I could easily drop I'd say about 30 gigs. MGS4 only went through a mild compression, they could fit MGS4 on 2 DVD's easily. But if you don't have to compress your things why bother, but MGS4 was FAR from compressed...

Loading screens in Killzone 2 are ridiculously long. I never measured the time with a stopwatch, but I wouldn't be surprised if a super-linear short level took more than 1:30 to load.

If this generation is going to last as long as everyone says it will, BD is going to be a mustzero_snake99

None of the consoles can produce the sort of art assets or map size that Crysis does; yet it sits happily on a single DVD. Also taking into account what I said earlier regarding content development costs, consoles are going to be fine with DVD disk storage this generation.

Anyway, aren't they using the "Megatextures" or what ever on the PS3 version of Rage? Also, games like KZ2 use 2048x2048 textures.zero_snake99

I mentioned Rage earlier because it was a one off, bringing up one game out of hundreds that has a problem with DVD capacity to argue the case of Blu-ray is scraping at the bottom of the barrel. Tech 5s situation is unique, even then it only becomes a problem because of Microsoft's policy; not disk capacity.

Besides all that; the game is coming to 360, which negates the argument of Rage 'needing' Blu-ray as opposed to just benefiting from it.

Yes that is a valid point when it comes to the capacity of the blu ray disk, but that still doesn't shed light on why an 8 gig game on the 360 looks better than an 8 gig game on the ps3. They are both the same size, yet they always tend to look better on 360. What if the 360 was able to run a 33 gig game? Would it look better than that same 33 gig game on the ps3?

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So its basically just: The system it was developed for it will look and run betetr on than on the ported system.

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zero_snake99

That was a joke. "Possible the largest game ever created, compressed taking up all 50 gigs of the blu ray disk". I could get the game compress all the textures and sound files and I could easily drop I'd say about 30 gigs. MGS4 only went through a mild compression, they could fit MGS4 on 2 DVD's easily. But if you don't have to compress your things why bother, but MGS4 was FAR from compressed...

Blu Ray read speeds are slow, and I ment to say I could drop it 30 gigs not to 30 gigs. And I'd put money on that MGS4 audio files are about 30-35 gigs of all there assets. I think if you compressed it fully it'd free up about 90% of the storage space. Same with the textures. The game world and character data takes up very little space, but then again they could have 10,000 polys rocks like Lair had...

Next gen games will require more than 8GB of space in my opinion. At the end of the day I think Sony did a good job with adapting a bigger capacity disc because of one main reason, future proof and developers dont have limitations, and having no limitations opens up rooms for more content, features, improvements and lots of stuff.

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