MW3 pirated on PC already...

Well, it simply doesn't have value.

Jebus213

Ahhh, you believe it doesn't, thus it doesn't. Get off your high horse.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Well, it simply doesn't have value.

lundy86_4

Ahhh, you believe it doesn't, thus it doesn't. Get off your high horse.

Well.....it doesn't.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

It doesn't have value.

Jebus213

MW3 doesn't? It's a largely populated game, months and months after release. To many, it has a large amount of value.

Well, it simply doesn't have value.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Well, it simply doesn't have value.

Jebus213

Ahhh, you believe it doesn't, thus it doesn't. Get off your high horse.

Well.....it doesn't.

How worthless.

Well.....it doesn't.

Jebus213

Wow, i've determined that i'm debating with an individual who, apparently, cannot implement a sufficient rebuttal. Anyway, CoD is continually high-scoring and high-selling. People may not like it, but it's apparent that many enjoy it.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Ahhh, you believe it doesn't, thus it doesn't. Get off your high horse.

timmy00

Well.....it doesn't.

How worthless.

It's an unbeatable argument. MW3 isn't worth 60$ under any circumstances.

If you think they're ripping people off, that's your opinion. You don't have to buy the game. Nobody does. Nobody is being ripped off if they WANT to buy it.

You don't have an argument.

Pirates always get games early..usually glitched, and cracked and without multi-player.

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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Well.....it doesn't.

Jebus213

How worthless.

It's an unbeatable argument. MW3 isn't worth 60$ under any circumstances.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="timmy00"]That's not much of an argument.

How worthless.

Ravensmash

It's an unbeatable argument. MW3 isn't worth 60$ under any circumstances.

Don't feel the troll.

I really want someone to explain the whole "CoD is a disease and ruining gaming" argument.

I see a whole lot of diversity in the industry...

I really want someone to explain the whole "CoD is a disease and ruining gaming" argument.

I see a whole lot of diversity in the industry...

commonfate

It's basically, "games try to emulate CoD, so it's ruining the industry". I see that CoD brings some things that people don't want, however, it brings a lot of people into gaming who may not have started initially. That's booming the existing audience of video gaming.

[QUOTE="commonfate"]

I really want someone to explain the whole "CoD is a disease and ruining gaming" argument.

I see a whole lot of diversity in the industry...

lundy86_4

It's basically, "games try to emulate CoD, so it's ruining the industry". I see that CoD brings some things that people don't want, however, it brings a lot of people into gaming who may not have started initially. That's booming the existing audience of video gaming.

Guess I'm a lone wolf because I don't feel like many games "emulate" CoD. Then again I don't play many FPS so maybe that's why :P

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Well.....it doesn't.

lundy86_4

Wow, i've determined that i'm debating with an individual who, apparently, cannot implement a sufficient rebuttal. Anyway, CoD is continually high-scoring and high-selling. People may not like it, but it's apparent that many enjoy it.

It is sufficient. CoD is an average corridor and scripted shooter that happens to be very popular because 12 year olds cream over the sight of Washington D.C. burning and love characters designed with a mysterious call sign's that some how they perceive as "cool".

Wow I'm not suprised considering it's COD and the pirates love to pirate it just like they did BO last year.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Well.....it doesn't.

Jebus213

Wow, i've determined that i'm debating with an individual who, apparently, cannot implement a sufficient rebuttal. Anyway, CoD is continually high-scoring and high-selling. People may not like it, but it's apparent that many enjoy it.

It is sufficient. CoD is an average corridor and scripted shooter that happens to very popular because 12 year olds cream over the sight of Washington D.C. burning and love characters designed with a mysterious call sign's that some how they perceive as "cool".

I would actually argue that CoD is more popular with weekday warriors but whatever, you seem set in your OPINION.

Guess I'm a lone wolf because I don't feel like many games "emulate" CoD. Then again I don't play many FPS so maybe that's why :P

commonfate

Not that many truly emulate CoD. It's a popular train of though though.

It is sufficient. CoD is an average corridor and scripted shooter that happens to be very popular because 12 year olds cream over the sight of Washington D.C. burning and love characters designed with a mysterious call sign's that some how they perceive as "cool".

Jebus213

It is insufficient, there is a difference. One seems to be oriented upon your opinion, the other does not. Yes, the games are scripted (as are many), but I would like you to prove that it is popular because "12 year olds cream over the sight of Washington D.C. burning",

Seriously, if you said "I don't like the game", that's fine, but the way you portrayed it is ridiculous.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Wow, i've determined that i'm debating with an individual who, apparently, cannot implement a sufficient rebuttal. Anyway, CoD is continually high-scoring and high-selling. People may not like it, but it's apparent that many enjoy it.

commonfate

It is sufficient. CoD is an average corridor and scripted shooter that happens to very popular because 12 year olds cream over the sight of Washington D.C. burning and love characters designed with a mysterious call sign's that some how they perceive as "cool".

I would actually argue that CoD is more popular with weekday warriors but whatever, you seem set in your OPINION.

My opinion is fact. The main demographic for CoD these day's are ages 8-16.

this seems to be cleary bashing PC unfairly

ignoring Black ops leaked on Jtag 360's 3 weeks early

and MW2 being pirated over a million times on 360 2 weeks early and casued 900k 360 consoles to get baned

[QUOTE="commonfate"]

Guess I'm a lone wolf because I don't feel like many games "emulate" CoD. Then again I don't play many FPS so maybe that's why :P

lundy86_4

Not that many truly emulate CoD. It's a popular train of though though.

It is sufficient. CoD is an average corridor and scripted shooter that happens to be very popular because 12 year olds cream over the sight of Washington D.C. burning and love characters designed with a mysterious call sign's that some how they perceive as "cool".

Jebus213

It is insufficient, there is a difference. One seems to be oriented upon your opinion, the other does not. Yes, the games are scripted (as are many), but I would like you to prove that it is popular because "12 year olds cream over the sight of Washington D.C. burning",

Seriously, if you said "I don't like the game", that's fine, but the way you portrayed it is ridiculous.

The way I portrayed it is accurate.

[QUOTE="commonfate"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

It is sufficient. CoD is an average corridor and scripted shooter that happens to very popular because 12 year olds cream over the sight of Washington D.C. burning and love characters designed with a mysterious call sign's that some how they perceive as "cool".

Jebus213

I would actually argue that CoD is more popular with weekday warriors but whatever, you seem set in your OPINION.

My opinion is fact. The main demographic for CoD these day's are ages 8-16.

What does that have to do with the game itself?

this seems to be cleary bashing PC unfairly

ignoring Black ops leaked on Jtag 360's 3 weeks early

and MW2 being pirated over a million times on 360 2 weeks early and casued 900k 360 consoles to get baned

HaloinventedFPS

The way I portrayed it is accurate.

Jebus213

Based on?

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="commonfate"]

I would actually argue that CoD is more popular with weekday warriors but whatever, you seem set in your OPINION.

commonfate

My opinion is fact. The main demographic for CoD these day's are ages 8-16.

What does that have to do with the game itself?

You make a cheap unoriginal story about Russian's, Nuclear weapons, and major American cities being attacked. What little 12 year patriot wouldn't like to play that?

MW3 isnt pirated on PC yet, you cant play it, PC games never get pirated before the game comes out anymore, only console games get pirated before street date

on the topic of COD on PC, taking away Mod tools, Dedicated servers, lean, $60 for the game, $15 for map packs, giving us a garbage unplayable console port

you guys defending them? lol, they are greedy scum, screwing over PC's fun just for some extra money in their pockets, keep defending them

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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

My opinion is fact. The main demographic for CoD these day's are ages 8-16.

Jebus213

What does that have to do with the game itself?

You make a cheap unoriginal story about Russian's, Nuclear weapons, and major American citie's being attacked. What little 12 year patriot wouldn't like to play that?

Oh so we're all talking about CoD's sp now huh? But BF is all about that MP right?

And like military shooters have deep, philosophical stories lol.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

The way I portrayed it is accurate.

lundy86_4

Based on?

It's based on fact.

You make a cheap unoriginal story about Russian's, Nuclear weapons, and major American cities being attacked. What little 12 year patriot wouldn't like to play that?

Jebus213

So, Battlefield 3's campaign? Russian operatives trying to secure a nuclear weapon to avoid nuclear war with the US, where NYC is the target and Paris has already been hit?

All FPS campaigns, oriented around the military, typically follow the same kind of idea.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

this seems to be cleary bashing PC unfairly

ignoring Black ops leaked on Jtag 360's 3 weeks early

and MW2 being pirated over a million times on 360 2 weeks early and casued 900k 360 consoles to get baned

commonfate

you must be new here

no offence, anyone with a good memory will remember the MW2 banwave on Xbox 360

but people like to pretend consoles dont have piracy and make out like only PC gamers pirate and the most pirated games are PC games

the most pirated game in 09 was FF Dissidia, the most pirated game in 2010 was Pokemon Heartgold/Soulsilver

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="commonfate"]

What does that have to do with the game itself?

commonfate

You make a cheap unoriginal story about Russian's, Nuclear weapons, and major American citie's being attacked. What little 12 year patriot wouldn't like to play that?

Oh so we're all talking about CoD's sp now huh? But BF is all about that MP right?

And like military shooters have deep, philosophical stories lol.

We weren't even talking about the MP earlier. Also I never said anything about BF3 and I made a thread about how bad the SP campaign for that game was.....

no sane PC gamer is going to buy MW3 anyways

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

You make a cheap unoriginal story about Russian's, Nuclear weapons, and major American cities being attacked. What little 12 year patriot wouldn't like to play that?

lundy86_4

So, Battlefield 3's campaign? Russian operatives trying to secure a nuclear weapon to avoid nuclear war with the US, where NYC is the target and Paris has already been hit?

All FPS campaigns, oriented around the military, typically follow the same kind of idea.

Of course you bring up BF3. And for what reason? Because I have gif of a cheap scripted event in the game?

no sane PC gamer is going to buy MW3 anyways

wis3boi

[QUOTE="commonfate"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

this seems to be cleary bashing PC unfairly

ignoring Black ops leaked on Jtag 360's 3 weeks early

and MW2 being pirated over a million times on 360 2 weeks early and casued 900k 360 consoles to get baned

HaloinventedFPS

you must be new here

no offence, anyone with a good memory will remember the MW2 banwave on Xbox 360

but people like to pretend consoles dont have piracy and make out like only PC gamers pirate and the most pirated games are PC games

the most pirated game in 09 was FF Dissidia, the most pirated game in 2010 was Pokemon Heartgold/Soulsilver

Not really new here but it must have slipped by me... or at least it didn't seem interesting enough to post in it so I don't remember.

And yeah consoles are subject to piracy as well, especially in the East.

From my experience on SW it feels like console gamers tend to ignore that piracy exists on platforms outside of PC and handhelds but PC gamers tend to downplay piracy too...

It's based on fact.

Jebus213

"fact..." is not opinion. Which you seemingly have mixed up.

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no sane PC gamer is going to buy MW3 anyways

Miroku32

As of right now there's only 8,000+ people playing Blops and Mw2 on PC. Also that's world wide. Both games are dead.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

It's based on fact.

lundy86_4

"fact..." is not opinion. Which you seemingly have mixed up.

I don't have it mixed up because my opinion is fact.

[QUOTE="commonfate"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

You make a cheap unoriginal story about Russian's, Nuclear weapons, and major American citie's being attacked. What little 12 year patriot wouldn't like to play that?

Jebus213

Oh so we're all talking about CoD's sp now huh? But BF is all about that MP right?

And like military shooters have deep, philosophical stories lol.

We weren't even talking about the MP earlier. Also I never said anything about BF3 and I made a thread about how bad the SP campaign for that game was.....

Fair enough but it should be fairly obvious why I brought that up.

But still you attack the campaign of a military shooter... because you know people are playing military shooters for those deep stories lol.

Of course you bring up BF3. And for what reason? Because I have gif of a cheap scripted event in the game?

Jebus213

No, because BF3's campaign was remarkably similar to the campaign you outlined, That was fairly obvious, but jump the gun if you want.

I really want someone to explain the whole "CoD is a disease and ruining gaming" argument.

I see a whole lot of diversity in the industry...

commonfate

Gaming should be about creativity and passion and a love for what they're doing, not driven only by the bottom dollar. The Activision/EA machines delete all that and replaces it with a robotic factory-st-y-le heartlessness business approach. Nothing like that can be good for the future of gaming.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="commonfate"]

Oh so we're all talking about CoD's sp now huh? But BF is all about that MP right?

And like military shooters have deep, philosophical stories lol.

commonfate

We weren't even talking about the MP earlier. Also I never said anything about BF3 and I made a thread about how bad the SP campaign for that game was.....

Fair enough but it should be fairly obvious why I brought that up.

But still you attack the campaign of a military shooter... because you know people are playing military shooters for those deep stories lol.

Of course people do.

I don't have it mixed up because my opinion is fact.

Jebus213

Yep, now we have gotten to the "ridiculous" stage, where one cannot back up their argument. Have a good one.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Of course you bring up BF3. And for what reason? Because I have gif of a cheap scripted event in the game?

lundy86_4

No, because BF3's campaign was remarkably similar to the campaign you outlined, That was fairly obvious, but jump the gun if you want.

BF3's campaign was also terrible.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

I don't have it mixed up because my opinion is fact.

lundy86_4

Yep, now we have gotten to the "ridiculous" stage, where one cannot back up their argument. Have a good one.

My argument is fully backed up.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

no sane PC gamer is going to buy MW3 anyways

Miroku32

MW2 flopping on PC and being pirated 4million times speaks for itself

COD4 sold extremly well on PC

[QUOTE="commonfate"]

I really want someone to explain the whole "CoD is a disease and ruining gaming" argument.

I see a whole lot of diversity in the industry...

Bigboi500

Gaming should be about creativity and passion and a love for what they're doing, not driven only by the bottom dollar. The Activision/EA machines delete all that and replaces it with a robotic factory-st-y-le heartlessness business approach. Nothing like that can be good for the future of gaming.

itll be pirated on every platform excluding PS3TH1Sx1SxSPARTA

Fixed.

Pirates can't play post-3.56 firmware games on jailbroken PS3s.