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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="tonnybanza1111"] Ok, explain this to me. Nobody played FPS before Halo. Me, my friends, my school. Halo comes along and everyone plays FPS. This Half Life of yours might as well not existed. Nobody will remember Jaws 3D, but everyone remembers Avatar.ohthemanatee

Jaws 3D = Half Life. Avatar = Half Life 2. Half Life 2 > Any Halo game. Half Life > any Halo game Doom > Any Halo game. Eat your heart out.

why are you comparing Half-life to bad movies?

This guy thinks that Halo is to FPS as Avatar is to 3D. I corrected him.
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#52 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] Jaws 3D = Half Life. Avatar = Half Life 2. Half Life 2 > Any Halo game. Half Life > any Halo game Doom > Any Halo game. Eat your heart out.Mozelleple112

why are you comparing Half-life to bad movies?

This guy thinks that Halo is to FPS as Avatar is to 3D. I corrected him.

he may be right on that.

what did avatar do?

Avatar is a terrible movie with good marketing

it wasn't even the best 3D movie of it's year, how to train your dragon had much better 3D

the only reason why his analogy doesn't work is because the halo games are actually great games

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Jaws 3D = Half Life. Avatar = Half Life 2. Half Life 2 > Any Halo game. Half Life > any Halo game Doom > Any Halo game. Eat your heart out.Mozelleple112

Half Life 2 9.2
Halo 2 9.4

Half Life 1 9.4
Halo 1 9.7

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="tonnybanza1111"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] :lol: ... Trolling right? Half Life 1 not only looks grapphically superior to Halo 1... But it IS a much better game ;)

Ok, explain this to me. Nobody played FPS before Halo. Me, my friends, my school. Halo comes along and everyone plays FPS. This Half Life of yours might as well not existed. Nobody will remember Jaws 3D, but everyone remembers Avatar.

Jaws 3D = Half Life. Avatar = Half Life 2. Half Life 2 > Any Halo game. Half Life > any Halo game Doom > Any Halo game. Eat your heart out.

CE was better than HL2 imo
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#57 Mozelleple112
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On topic:

Heavy Rain

LittleBigPlanet:

Crysis

Portal

Metal Gear Solid 4

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[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Mozelleple112

then how do you explain this?

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#62 ohthemanatee
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The game that started the FPS revolution is better than a game no one bought and remembers.tonnybanza1111

half-life 2 sold 6.5 million in retail alone and it's considered as one of the best FPS of all time :|

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#63 waltefmoney
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The game that started the FPS revolution is better than a game no one bought and remembers.tonnybanza1111

That's not right. Half Life 2 is considered to be one of the best first person shooters of all time, and plenty of people remember it.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] Jaws 3D = Half Life. Avatar = Half Life 2. Half Life 2 > Any Halo game. Half Life > any Halo game Doom > Any Halo game. Eat your heart out.Mozelleple112

Half Life 2 9.2
Halo 2 9.4

Half Life 1 9.4
Halo 1 9.7

PC standards > Xbox standards, is it that hard to undetstand? Halo fanboys thinking Halo's better than Half Life :lol:

Standards, shmandards :P

Where as HL isn't half bad, Halo's just all so good. 8)

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]ohthemanatee

then how do you explain this?

3 year console port thats vastly inferior to the original ? :S if Half Life 1 was on Psone and played EXACTLY like on PC and PS1 had all the mods, opposing force etc ready for it... it would get 9.9 if not a 10... :|
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LBP (especially the second one) - for the obvious reasons.

Gears of War - perfected cover and third person mechanics.

Portal - portal gun possibilities are immense.

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[QUOTE="tonnybanza1111"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]Half Life 2 9.2 Halo 2 9.4 Half Life 1 9.4 Halo 1 9.7Mozelleple112

Hihihih poont

Halo: Combat Evolved Game of the Year wins: 4

"The game received numerous Game of the Year awards, including those of the Academy of Interactive Arts & SciencesElectronic Gaming Monthly, Edge, and IGN.["

your own link says the game received more then 4 GOTY awards :|

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="tonnybanza1111"] Hihihih poontohthemanatee

Halo: Combat Evolved Game of the Year wins: 4

"The game received numerous Game of the Year awards, including those of the Academy of Interactive Arts & SciencesElectronic Gaming Monthly, Edge, and IGN.["

your own link says the game received more then 4 GOTY awards :|

You just quoted 4 wins ... ;) 1. AIAS 2. IGN 3 Edge 4. Electronic Gaming Monthly

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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Mozelleple112

then how do you explain this?

3 year console port thats vastly inferior to the original ? :S if Half Life 1 was on Psone and played EXACTLY like on PC and PS1 had all the mods, opposing force etc ready for it... it would get 9.9 if not a 10... :|

and how is it vastly inferior in gamespot´s eyes? bear in mind that gamespot does not rate mods and that you included an expansion pack in your defense (so now you need 2 games instead of one?)

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3 year console port thats vastly inferior to the original ? :S if Half Life 1 was on Psone and played EXACTLY like on PC and PS1 had all the mods, opposing force etc ready for it... it would get 9.9 if not a 10... :|Mozelleple112

"We judge more critically as time goes by, because our expectations as game players are constantly increasing. When we review a game, we consider it at the exact point in time at which the evaluation is taking place (generally, the week of a game's release) and compare it to what we believe to be the current standards of quality at that time."

Gamespot review guidelines

Halo Combat Evolved - 2001
Half Life 1 - 1998

Halo Combat Evolved - 9.7
Half Life 1 - 9.4

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#72 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

Halo: Combat Evolved Game of the Year wins: 4

Mozelleple112

"The game received numerous Game of the Year awards, including those of the Academy of Interactive Arts & SciencesElectronic Gaming Monthly, Edge, and IGN.["

your own link says the game received more then 4 GOTY awards :|

You just quoted 4 wins ... ;) 1. AIAS 2. IGN 3 Edge 4. Electronic Gaming Monthly

bolded the important part for you, when you say "including those" it's obvious that you are just picking some of them from the list

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Uncharted 2 for its cinematic action, superb storytelling, blending interactive cutscenes with gameplay flawlessly and phenomenal animation.

You can see its influence in games like inFAMOUS2, Dead Space 2, Enslaved, etc

Not to mentioned it evolved what was capables of consoles, graphics wise.

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]3 year console port thats vastly inferior to the original ? :S if Half Life 1 was on Psone and played EXACTLY like on PC and PS1 had all the mods, opposing force etc ready for it... it would get 9.9 if not a 10... :|waltefmoney

"We judge more critically as time goes by, because our expectations as game players are constantly increasing. When we review a game, we consider it at the exact point in time at which the evaluation is taking place (generally, the week of a game's release) and compare it to what we believe to be the current standards of quality at that time."

Gamespot review guidelines

Halo Combat Evolved - 2001
Half Life 1 - 1998

Halo Combat Evolved - 9.7
Half Life 1 - 9.4

Half Life 1 PC --- 9.4 Half Life 1 Xbox --- 9.9 9.9 >>>> 9.7 Whats your point :/ ?

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I agree with Assassins Creed, the freedom of it and the crowds in the game are astounding. I also say Demons souls for action rpgs. It didnt focus on story or leveling and grinding but pure skill, and the online mechanics were great.

[QUOTE="FatCatPatRat"]

Super Mario Galaxy for 3D platforming.

Jolt_counter119

No

Not surprised with your current view on the Wii
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

"The game received numerous Game of the Year awards, including those of the Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences Electronic Gaming Monthly, Edge, and IGN.["

your own link says the game received more then 4 GOTY awards :|

ohthemanatee

You just quoted 4 wins ... ;) 1. AIAS 2. IGN 3 Edge 4. Electronic Gaming Monthly

bolded the important part for you, when you say "including those" it's obvious that you are just picking some of them from the list

It doesn't matter. The only games that have won more GOTY awards than Half Life are Uncharted 2 and MGS4. Did you realize Half Life won GOTY _OVER_ The Ocarina of Time at most places? Half Life > OOT. Deal with it.

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Penumbra, Portal and (despite it's quality problems) Silent Hunter 5

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No such game this gen.

KalDurenik

^--- True... Not a single game. And no ME did nothing... Hell lots of old games had that.

Name one game that allows you to transfer all the decisions you made in one game into the next. And shaped the world.

And with that I am going Mass Effect.

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="tonnybanza1111"]Halo revolutionized FPS. People were playing Doom graphics without storylines, before Microsoft taught people how it's done.tonnybanza1111
:lol: ... Trolling right? Half Life 1 not only looks grapphically superior to Halo 1... But it IS a much better game ;)

Ok, explain this to me. Nobody played FPS before Halo. Me, my friends, my school. Halo comes along and everyone plays FPS. This Half Life of yours might as well not existed. Nobody will remember Jaws 3D, but everyone remembers Avatar.

It's called Goldeneye (and Half and Counterstrike), as well as other games that followed like perfect Dark.

LBP and in a sense Uncharted 2 I guess. Certain games have added certain elements, but I am not sure about a complete REVOLUTION :P

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It doesn't matter. The only games that have won more GOTY awards than Half Life are Uncharted 2 and MGS4. Did you realize Half Life won GOTY _OVER_ The Ocarina of Time at most places? Half Life > OOT. Deal with it.

Mozelleple112

lol, deal with what? your opinion? :?

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#81 waltefmoney
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Half Life 1 PC --- 9.4 Half Life 1 Xbox --- 9.9 9.9 >>>> 9.7 Whats your point :/ ?

Mozelleple112

That you're making stuff up? Half Life 2 was released on Xbox exactly one year after the PC version and it scored much lower.

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

Half Life 1 PC --- 9.4 Half Life 1 Xbox --- 9.9 9.9 >>>> 9.7 Whats your point :/ ?

waltefmoney

That you're making stuff up? Half Life 2 was released on Xbox exactly one year after the PC version and it scored much lower.

A carbine copy of Half Life 1 on a console would score 9.9 IF NOT higher. Prove me wrong.
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

bolded the important part for you, when you say "including those" it's obvious that you are just picking some of them from the list

sts106mat

It doesn't matter. The only games that have won more GOTY awards than Half Life are Uncharted 2 and MGS4. Did you realize Half Life won GOTY _OVER_ The Ocarina of Time at most places? Half Life > OOT. Deal with it.

please give it a rest. you prefer half-life he prefers halo. opinions are opinions, deal with it. Halo did revolutionise FPS's, pretty sure regenerating health / shields weren't done before. they are now basically used in most FPS's these days

They can argue all they want. Half Life is a game that is considered to be a top 5/ top10 best game of all time. Halo 1 won't even touch the top25.

And no, I don't "prefer" Half Life. I've only played the demo for it and I've not even completed Half Life 2. I know they are better, I just don't let my opinion get in the way.

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They can argue all they want. Half Life is a game that is considered to be a top 5/ top10 best game of all time. Halo 1 won't even touch the top25.Mozelleple112

it's at 15th place, just above Half-life 2

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A carbine copy of Half Life 1 on a console would score 9.9 IF NOT higher. Prove me wrong.Mozelleple112

Why? It's not like you proved it, you're just speculating.

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] please give it a rest. you prefer half-life he prefers halo. opinions are opinions, deal with it. Halo did revolutionise FPS's, pretty sure regenerating health / shields weren't done before. they are now basically used in most FPS's these daysohthemanatee

They can argue all they want. Half Life is a game that is considered to be a top 5/ top10 best game of all time. Halo 1 won't even touch the top25.

it's at 15th place, just above Half-life 2

No it is not. I think your link is broken btw... That statements lead me to GameRankings :lol:
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] It doesn't matter. The only games that have won more GOTY awards than Half Life are Uncharted 2 and MGS4. Did you realize Half Life won GOTY _OVER_ The Ocarina of Time at most places? Half Life > OOT. Deal with it.

Mozelleple112

please give it a rest. you prefer half-life he prefers halo. opinions are opinions, deal with it. Halo did revolutionise FPS's, pretty sure regenerating health / shields weren't done before. they are now basically used in most FPS's these days

They can argue all they want. Half Life is a game that is considered to be a top 5/ top10 best game of all time. Halo 1 won't even touch the top25.

And no, I don't "prefer" Half Life. I've only played the demo for it and I've not even completed Half Life 2. I know they are better, I just don't let my opinion get in the way.

So you played the demo of the 1st one and didn't finish the second yet you're saying they're better? Hmm, ok.
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="tonnybanza1111"] Ok, explain this to me. Nobody played FPS before Halo. Me, my friends, my school. Halo comes along and everyone plays FPS. This Half Life of yours might as well not existed. Nobody will remember Jaws 3D, but everyone remembers Avatar.sts106mat

It's called Goldeneye (and Half and Counterstrike), as well as other games that followed like perfect Dark.

LBP and in a sense Uncharted 2 I guess. Certain games have added certain elements, but I am not sure about a complete REVOLUTION :P

UC2 has revolutionized the genre? i would agree "refined" but not revolutionized. its heavily criticised here for doing nothing new...

I'd say the same thing. UC2 didn't introduce new ideas, it simply mastered ideas that have been around for ages.
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No it is not. I think your link is broken btw... That statements lead me to GameRankings :lol:Mozelleple112

you're the one who brought outside reviews and outsited GOTY awards in the first place, now suddenly they don't matter? :lol:

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] please give it a rest. you prefer half-life he prefers halo. opinions are opinions, deal with it. Halo did revolutionise FPS's, pretty sure regenerating health / shields weren't done before. they are now basically used in most FPS's these daysLastRambo341

They can argue all they want. Half Life is a game that is considered to be a top 5/ top10 best game of all time. Halo 1 won't even touch the top25.

And no, I don't "prefer" Half Life. I've only played the demo for it and I've not even completed Half Life 2. I know they are better, I just don't let my opinion get in the way.

Yes. I know they are better games, unlike people who are wasting my time with their incorrect opinions. So you played the demo of the 1st one and didn't finish the second yet you're saying they're better? Hmm, ok.

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] No it is not. I think your link is broken btw... That statements lead me to GameRankings :lol:ohthemanatee

you're the one who brought outside reviews and outsited GOTY awards in the first place, now suddenly they don't matter? :lol:

I didn't bring up reviews from random bloggers :lol:
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] It doesn't matter. The only games that have won more GOTY awards than Half Life are Uncharted 2 and MGS4. Did you realize Half Life won GOTY _OVER_ The Ocarina of Time at most places? Half Life > OOT. Deal with it.

Mozelleple112

please give it a rest. you prefer half-life he prefers halo. opinions are opinions, deal with it. Halo did revolutionise FPS's, pretty sure regenerating health / shields weren't done before. they are now basically used in most FPS's these days

They can argue all they want. Half Life is a game that is considered to be a top 5/ top10 best game of all time. Halo 1 won't even touch the top25.

And no, I don't "prefer" Half Life. I've only played the demo for it and I've not even completed Half Life 2. I know they are better, I just don't let my opinion get in the way.

so you never even finished the games? :lol:

better yet, you know they're better but don't let your opinion get in the way? :lol:

what do you think "better" is? it's an opinion

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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] No it is not. I think your link is broken btw... That statements lead me to GameRankings :lol:Mozelleple112

you're the one who brought outside reviews and outsited GOTY awards in the first place, now suddenly they don't matter? :lol:

I didn't bring up reviews from random bloggers :lol:

neither did I

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] please give it a rest. you prefer half-life he prefers halo. opinions are opinions, deal with it. Halo did revolutionise FPS's, pretty sure regenerating health / shields weren't done before. they are now basically used in most FPS's these daysohthemanatee

They can argue all they want. Half Life is a game that is considered to be a top 5/ top10 best game of all time. Halo 1 won't even touch the top25.

And no, I don't "prefer" Half Life. I've only played the demo for it and I've not even completed Half Life 2. I know they are better, I just don't let my opinion get in the way.

so you never even finished the games? :lol:

better yet, you know they're better but don't let your opinion get in the way? :lol:

what do you think "better" is? it's an opinion

Personally I think Killzone 2 and Cod4 are better than the Half Life games and Halo games. But thats my personal opinion, which would be incorrect.
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] please give it a rest. you prefer half-life he prefers halo. opinions are opinions, deal with it. Halo did revolutionise FPS's, pretty sure regenerating health / shields weren't done before. they are now basically used in most FPS's these dayssts106mat

They can argue all they want. Half Life is a game that is considered to be a top 5/ top10 best game of all time. Halo 1 won't even touch the top25.

a quick search on metacritic disagrees...

http://apps.metacritic.com/search/process?ty=3&ts=&tfs=game_all&sb=5&x=7&y=14&release_date_s=&release_date_e=&metascore_s=&metascore_e=

and gamerankings also disagrees

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#99 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] please give it a rest. you prefer half-life he prefers halo. opinions are opinions, deal with it. Halo did revolutionise FPS's, pretty sure regenerating health / shields weren't done before. they are now basically used in most FPS's these dayssts106mat

They can argue all they want. Half Life is a game that is considered to be a top 5/ top10 best game of all time. Halo 1 won't even touch the top25.

a quick search on metacritic disagrees...

http://apps.metacritic.com/search/process?ty=3&ts=&tfs=game_all&sb=5&x=7&y=14&release_date_s=&release_date_e=&metascore_s=&metascore_e=

What has metacritic got to do with any thing ? :lol:
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#100 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]So you played the demo of the 1st one and didn't finish the second yet you're saying they're better? Hmm, ok.Mozelleple112

Yes. I know they are better games, unlike people who are wasting my time with their incorrect opinions.

And what are you presenting right now? Your opinion. Which is based on a demo. You're really not helping your case.