Name one innovative idea Sony came up with this gen.

[QUOTE="fourseamer4"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Blu-Ray. Bash it as you will, but I can argue many ways that it is an improvement. Trinners

what's next?

cartridges have done nothing for gaming!

CDs have done nothing for gaming!

DVDs have done nothing for gaming!

:roll:

Sony hasn't really inovated this generation, but the quality of their games has been at itts peak. And since I dont care two hoots about innovation as long as the games that I play are fun and well made, I strongly support Sony... as long as they don't go against the Wii that is :)

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Blu-ray Disc developers complete specification

Tech ready for licensing as backers unveil players

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Posted in Peripherals, 6th January 2006 17:09 GMT

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CES The Blu-ray Disc specification has been completed, the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) announced last night, just three days after dotting the i's and crossing the t's on the format.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/06/blu-ray_spec_done/

SpruceCaboose

http://www.pcworld.com/article/142584/hd_dvd_vs_bluray_disc_a_history.html

And yes, we count when things launch, not when things are thought up. Do you say the PS3 came out in 2006, or do you say 2000, when work started on it? Come on now, you are stretching real hard by saying we count tech from when it started in development.

Yup cause MS and nintendo are so orginal. Another fanboy another day.

[QUOTE="Solid_Max13"]Give me on innovative idea MS came up with.Shafftehr

Not really. They just took what the devs had been doing anyway, and putting a collective "marker" for it on the console. I wouldn't call that innovative. It is a nice feature, though.

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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"] Oh, I like this. As has been clearly shown, the technology existed years before. The fact that it wasn't designed into commercial players, and the BDA wasn't formed until later, doesn't change the fact that the technology had been around for a good long time already. So what's your deadline for when it started innovating - not when it actually came into existence, but when all the paperwork about who owned, produced it, and would profit from it was done? :lol:Shafftehr

http://www.pcworld.com/article/142584/hd_dvd_vs_bluray_disc_a_history.html

And yes, we count when things launch, not when things are thought up. Do you say the PS3 came out in 2006, or do you say 2000, when work started on it? Come on now, you are stretching real hard by saying we count tech from when it started in development.

You are twisting what the TC meant. He didnt mean "Name something Sony thought of this gen" he meant "name something Sony did this gen"

With your logic then we arent going to find out what anyone thought of until next gen when they actually implement the things they are thinking of right now.

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="Solid_Max13"]Give me on innovative idea MS came up with.Dragonblade01

Not really. They just took what the devs had been doing anyway, and putting a collective "marker" for it on the console. I wouldn't call that innovative. It is a nice feature, though.

Play Create SHare. Littlebigplanet, Modnation racers, gravity crahs. There hasn't been universial servers for mods etc like sony has done. If you even consider mods to be ismilar. Why is it so niche? Because it doesn't have the share feature. Mostly have to find it on zip files, and other stuff. Spening 10 minutes out of your way. Yeah that is revoloutionary and great. And yeah, I think media molecule should be considered one innovative idea since they published the idea.

For heaven's sake, Blu-Ray is only an expansion of the past technology. It's not innovative, it just increases storage capacity. It's no more innovative than CD to DVD.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Motion sensing controllers are decades old, the idea of rewarding players for in game achievements was done on the Atari, the idea of rumble was in the N64 at least, the ideas behind controlling games via a camera input are at least a generation old, if not more due to VR tech, XBL and its ideas are at least a decade old. What other so called innovations this gen are there for us to destroy?Shafftehr

pricing five hundred and ninty nine US dollars for a console...now thats something you don't see everyday!

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Motion sensing controllers are decades old, the idea of rewarding players for in game achievements was done on the Atari, the idea of rumble was in the N64 at least, the ideas behind controlling games via a camera input are at least a generation old, if not more due to VR tech, XBL and its ideas are at least a decade old. What other so called innovations this gen are there for us to destroy?nhh18

A culmination of pre-existing technology is not innovative.

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Motion sensing controllers are decades old, the idea of rewarding players for in game achievements was done on the Atari, the idea of rumble was in the N64 at least, the ideas behind controlling games via a camera input are at least a generation old, if not more due to VR tech, XBL and its ideas are at least a decade old. What other so called innovations this gen are there for us to destroy?nhh18

pricing five hundred and ninty nine US dollars for a console...now thats something you don't see everyday!

LinKuei_warrior

Well the neo geo was $649.99 and there are other less known consoles that were even more then that.

[QUOTE="LinKuei_warrior"]

pricing five hundred and ninty nine US dollars for a console...now thats something you don't see everyday!

finalfantasy94

Well the neo geo was $649.99 and there are other less known consoles that were even more then that.

I'm remember that, and it's $250 cartridges . . . and the adds.

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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"] Works for me. Besides, most of those things you're listing haven't actually appeared in this thread... Rumble? XBL? Was anyone saying those were innovative ideas this gen?Dragonblade01

A culmination of pre-existing technology is not innovative.

[QUOTE="Dragonblade01"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]The wii-mote is revoloutionary. Nothing like it before. Project Natal sucks thoguh but, achievements were great.

nhh18

A culmination of pre-existing technology is not innovative.

Yes, it was a brilliant idea. Yes, it was a revolutionary idea. No, it was not an innovative idea. Sensors have existed long before the wii-mote (especially in controllers), as did the rest of the technology you mentioned. For it to be innovative, it would have to be completely new.

Nobody has found a way to sink a previously dominant namebrand as fast and as convincingly as Sony has this gen.... that's innovation right there.

i dont think theres a single thing that ms has done since day one lol

sony invented the bluray for use with games and sony and nintendo did motion sensing

ms did nothing ,

dont count natal because that was after sony did pseyetoy lol

ms is just aimed at games period they dont care for innovation-theyll take short cuts- see whats working in the industry and try to cash in , , much like what their doing with natal

sony and nintendo in my opinion are the most expeirenced of the 3

not that 360 isnt good, lol its another amazing console , , its string of games like dead rising tdu and saints row pd0 and pdxbla are easily reasons to own one

Innovative this, innovative that blablablabla.

Half the people using it don't even know what it actually means and the other half only care when it can be used to bash any target of hate --> in this case, the ps3.

First person cover sysems? (Killzone 2)

First person cover sysems? (Killzone 2)

Rob-Belmont

Tom Clancy says hi.

pricing five hundred and ninty nine US dollars for a console...now thats something you don't see everyday!

LinKuei_warrior

Then selling 23 million of that said console, definitely something you don't see.

That picture in the original post is hilarious! 'What Nintendo create, we take'.... :lol:

Compare to MS or Nintendo... Sony has copied achievements, has jumped on the generic/soldier/FPS genre with Resistance and KZ2, basically did their own Wii mote knockoff, comming out with their own version of mario kart. I would say LBP is innovative but level editors in games has been done before. I primarily use my PS3 as a Blu-ray player which I don't see as an innovation.

fourseamer4

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[QUOTE="fourseamer4"]

Compare to MS or Nintendo... Sony has copied achievements, has jumped on the generic/soldier/FPS genre with Resistance and KZ2, basically did their own Wii mote knockoff, comming out with their own version of mario kart. I would say LBP is innovative but level editors in games has been done before. I primarily use my PS3 as a Blu-ray player which I don't see as an innovation.

fourseamer4

MLB The Show and some other exclusives.

ummm, standing up console, dual analog? dual vibration?

Wasnt the PS2 the first console that could be placed horizontally and vertically? yes its not that big of an innovation but all the consoles adopted it this gen which shows its had posotive feedback.

Wasnt the PS2 the first console that could be placed horizontally and vertically? yes its not that big of an innovation but all the consoles adopted it this gen which shows its had posotive feedback.

shutdown_202

-Dual analog stick: you all ought to be grateful to Sony for this idea

-Built-in Rumble: I know Ninty came up with the rumble idea but you had to buy an add-on that made the controller uglier and more uncomfortable to use

-The Home button in PSP: XBox 360 isn't the first gaming system to have this

-Integrating media playback and gaming in PS2, PSP and PS3: these are not just video game consoles

-Sixaxis: it's so fun to use; go play Rag Doll Kung Fu and you'll see

-Play, create and share on consoles: no need to elaborate on this

-Home: this XI stuff is really fun

-EyeToy and PS Eye: google Eyedentify and EyePet and you'll see

[QUOTE="fourseamer4"]

Compare to MS or Nintendo... Sony has copied achievements, has jumped on the generic/soldier/FPS genre with Resistance and KZ2, basically did their own Wii mote knockoff, comming out with their own version of mario kart. I would say LBP is innovative but level editors in games has been done before. I primarily use my PS3 as a Blu-ray player which I don't see as an innovation.

khoofia_pika

Honestly none of the consloe makers did anything inovative just expanded on small ideas

among other things, they introduced a new genre of gaming titled "Play, Create, Share". besides, what has MS done thats innovative?idontbeliveit

lol Sony didnt introduce that, PC games have had that for years. And if you mean brought it to consoles, the Wii game Blast Works: Build, Trade & Destroy had it. Although on a smaller scale of course.

$600. I kid, I kid.SMR-Venom

among other things, they introduced a new genre of gaming titled "Play, Create, Share". besides, what has MS done thats innovative?idontbeliveit

cell processor?

i dont think theres a single thing that ms has done since day one lol

sony invented the bluray for use with games and sony and nintendo did motion sensing

ms did nothing ,

dont count natal because that was after sony did pseyetoy lol

ms is just aimed at games period they dont care for innovation-theyll take short cuts- see whats working in the industry and try to cash in , , much like what their doing with natal

sony and nintendo in my opinion are the most expeirenced of the 3

not that 360 isnt good, lol its another amazing console , , its string of games like dead rising tdu and saints row pd0 and pdxbla are easily reasons to own one

mariokart64fan

I also love how you've dismissed Natal by equating it with EyeToy. Does EyeToy track your movements in 3D space? Does EyeToy recognize your voice? Does it do it without impacting the PS3's CPU in any way? No? Shame.

Style over substance. Using E3 to overhype nothing as something great. MS is accused of this but Sony has been doing it for longer.

Can swap out the hard drive for any off the shelf one. I dont remember any other consoles allowing that. Blue tooth too I guess.

coltsfan4ever

BTW, why do people say Sony innovated Bluray for gaming when the idea was to use the format as a Trojan Horse to sucker people into thinking they needed to spend more money on DVD's? Wait, that is innovative...

[QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

Can swap out the hard drive for any off the shelf one. I dont remember any other consoles allowing that. Blue tooth too I guess.

bingbaocao

BTW, swapping hard drives just looks like an idea to milk more out of people...

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

Can swap out the hard drive for any off the shelf one. I dont remember any other consoles allowing that. Blue tooth too I guess.

MizFitAwesome

BTW, swapping hard drives just looks like an idea to milk more out of people...

[QUOTE="Mr_Ditters"]

The ability to install an alternate operating system effectively turning your gaming console into a computer. How about that?

fourseamer4

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

Can swap out the hard drive for any off the shelf one. I dont remember any other consoles allowing that. Blue tooth too I guess.

MizFitAwesome

BTW, swapping hard drives just looks like an idea to milk more out of people...