Naughty Dog Interview, "We Learned alot from Playing CALL OF DUTY"

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Well this dev is going down the tubes. Which is a shame, I hear such great things about them.

RavenLoud

Well you know... this is SW... and I have played the Jak games, messing around in them. Pretty good.

I kinda expected this from the UC3 MP trailer. I am very disappointed ND. Naughty Dog... This is the first time you disappointed me since you let go of Crash.

COD multiplayer is freaking fantastic, stealing ideas from the leader in the industry is just a smart thing to do.i5750at4Ghz

They already copied CoD with update 1.05. I liked when it look a lot of bullets to kill someone :(

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]COD multiplayer is freaking fantastic, stealing ideas from the leader in the industry is just a smart thing to do.Another-World

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]COD multiplayer is freaking fantastic, stealing ideas from the leader in the industry is just a smart thing to do.Another-World

[QUOTE="Another-World"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]COD multiplayer is freaking fantastic, stealing ideas from the leader in the industry is just a smart thing to do.i5750at4Ghz

Just like they did with Halo before that. Although I still think Halo is the best MP shooter right now. BF being second.

[QUOTE="Another-World"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]COD multiplayer is freaking fantastic, stealing ideas from the leader in the industry is just a smart thing to do.i5750at4Ghz

That's because ofhow much money the games make.

Wow not getting uncharted 3 then, I can't stand COD games. COD games also make me dizzy so I guess if uncharted is gonna make it like that game I guess it's gonna make me dizzy too, oh well theres plenty of other good games coming out in November.

[QUOTE="Upparoom"]

I swear to god I hope they only mean the responsiveness of controls.

ChubbyGuy40

Like knifing someone three times in the back only to have them turn around and knife you? :D

Sounds like Bad Company 2...

Anyway, COD has a lot of good things to teach developers, as long as they realize what not to take from it.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="Another-World"] freaking fantastic? really? turtlethetaffer

That's because ofhow much money the games make.

[QUOTE="Another-World"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]COD multiplayer is freaking fantastic, stealing ideas from the leader in the industry is just a smart thing to do.i5750at4Ghz

Because it makes money, not because it's the best there is. Homefront took CoD's gameplay and made it good by putting in Battlefield elements. Sadly it scored lower because it wasn't enough like CoD.

I hope by that they mean, "we have learned what not to do."

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Yes, really. There is a reason every single FPS released now steals ideas from it.i5750at4Ghz

That's because ofhow much money the games make.

Sure let's go with that.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="Another-World"] freaking fantastic? really? ChubbyGuy40

Because it makes money, not because it's the best there is. Homefront took CoD's gameplay and made it good by putting in Battlefield elements. Sadly it scored lower because it wasn't enough like CoD.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

That's because ofhow much money the games make.

turtlethetaffer

Sure let's go with that.

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but it will be quite fun to watch COD-hating UC fans or COD-hating cows backpedal on their COD hate.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]COD multiplayer is freaking fantastic, stealing ideas from the leader in the industry is just a smart thing to do.FPSDad1161

I agree. CoD is a awesome MP game. But last time I played a game that tried to emulate CoD it turned out horrible *cough* Killzone 2 *cough*.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Yes, really. There is a reason every single FPS released now steals ideas from it.i5750at4Ghz

Because it makes money, not because it's the best there is. Homefront took CoD's gameplay and made it good by putting in Battlefield elements. Sadly it scored lower because it wasn't enough like CoD.

I'm not trying to be an elitist here (this is just my personal view), but COD *obviously* attracts a lot of casuals, and casuals honestly wouldn't be too keen on understanding just what makes for a truly great FPS. COD, especially the last two iterations, are far from being top of the line FPS games. Their campaigns are so linear and stuck on "automatic pilot mode" that literally anybody could play through them. They are almost unbearable on replays because of this. The "skill" involved in the multiplayer doesn't go far beyond exploiting certain weapons and perks. COD can be fun, but it's nothing truly special.

Also, I think people that hope that ND were thinking, "Well, COD sucks, but we'll just take the features and gun responsiveness," are kidding themselves.

Now I'm not saying that the multiplayer will be a clone of COD or that they'll learn fromeverything about COD.But it's very likely that they respect the game and think that it does most stuff, especially MP-wise, fairly well, and want to inject some of the stuff is does well into their own game, because I think they're probably too reasonable to jump onto the "COD is garbage! It's the worst thing evar!" bandwagon. Naughty Dog knows too much about game design to entertain that kind of hyperbole.

and where is the TC at?

completely taken out of context,we will see next week but anyway these comments.....

You mean the way the character handle the guns.

OMG COD CLONE AM CONFIRMED. NO WAI DIS GEAM WILL BE GUD NAO.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Because it makes money, not because it's the best there is. Homefront took CoD's gameplay and made it good by putting in Battlefield elements. Sadly it scored lower because it wasn't enough like CoD.

Master_ShakeXXX

I'm not trying to be an elitist here (this is just my personal view), but COD *obviously* attracts a lot of casuals, and casuals honestly wouldn't be too keen on understanding just what makes for a truly great FPS. COD, especially the last two iterations, are far from being top of the line FPS games. Their campaigns are so linear and stuck on "automatic pilot mode" that literally anybody could play through them. They are almost unbearable on replays because of this. The "skill" involved in the multiplayer doesn't go far beyond exploiting certain weapons and perks. COD can be fun, but it's nothing truly special.

Looks like about 90% of SW did not manage to look beyond the misleading topic title.

Guys he is OBVIOUSLY talking about the MP and honestly if you didn't see anything borrowed from COD in U2's MP you're just being really dumb or really naive.That said cod's rewarding system IS addictive and KEEP people playing , perks when balanced are fun , that's what he's talking about.Geez you guys are just too sensitive and hasty ,I'm kinda starting to agree with that OXM article where they defended cod , not for cod itself , but by the bias of you people that haven't even played the game , unlike cod which we , who are able to judge , have played a lot and have obvious reasons to be uneasy regarding a tenth installment.

Looks like about 90% of SW did not manage to look beyond the misleading topic title.

Filthybastrd

The topic title is not misleading.

Even if they learned alot as far as a certain ASPECTS are concerned, they still said that they learned alot from playing COD.

Are the people who feel the game is doomed to be a COD clone interpreting the interview in an exaggerated way? They probably are, and admittedly the "COD am confirmed!" comment was going too far (it might have been a joke though), but there's absolutely nothing misleading about the title.

Looks like about 90% of SW did not manage to look beyond the misleading topic title.

Filthybastrd

Guys he is OBVIOUSLY talking about the MP and honestly if you didn't see anything borrowed from COD in U2's MP you're just being really dumb or really naive.That said cod's rewarding system IS addictive and KEEP people playing , perks when balanced are fun , that's what he's talking about.Geez you guys are just too sensitive and hasty ,I'm kinda starting to agree with that OXM article where they defended cod , not for cod itself , but by the bias of you people that haven't even played the game , unlike cod which we , who are able to judge , have played a lot and have obvious reasons to be uneasy regarding a tenth installment.

RoOodriGowW

Well time to change the sig and avy.

A shooter borrowing ideas from a very successful shooter? I can't believe I'm reading this...

All sarcasm aside though, I never really liked UC 2 multiplayer so I don't know how I'll like this. I do kind of enjoy CoD (sometimes :P).

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Looks like about 90% of SW did not manage to look beyond the misleading topic title.

Silverbond

the reactions are completely overdone.but then this is SW where no one reads..... the beta is next week make judgements there

Well time to change the sig and avy.

Cheesehead9099

You're joking, right?

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Looks like about 90% of SW did not manage to look beyond the misleading topic title.

eboyishere

the reactions are completely overdone.but then this is SW where no one reads..... the beta is next week make judgements there

People are interpreting the article in a hyperbolic way, but then there are other people trying to pretend that Naughty Dog didn't actually learn alot from COD when they clearly said that they did.

I don't know about you guys but I'm buying Uncharted 3 for it's single player...I couldn't care less how COD like the multiplayer is.

And Un-COD-rted is the worst twist given to a game title I've ever heard on here...

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"] The title isn't misleading.GreySeal9

the reactions are completely overdone.but then this is SW where no one reads..... the beta is next week make judgements there

People are interpreting the article in a hyperbolic way, but then there are other people trying to pretend that Naughty Dog didn't actually learn alot from COD when they clearly said that they did.

i cant speak for ND but i guess they were into the addictive fast pace of it? idk, but the thing that killed cod for me was they added too much.....hoping UC3 doesnt go down that road

and again the TC is not here......

[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"]

Well time to change the sig and avy.

GreySeal9

You're joking, right?

Quit the act guys, its getting tiresome. You can't deny it introduced a lot of fresh elements into multiplayer that worked. Other devs taking inspiration from this is no issue at all, so all this "wahhh now i dont want it" crap can stop.

It's not bad that they took notes from the most popular online shooter in the world, calm down folks.getyeryayasout

[QUOTE="getyeryayasout"]It's not bad that they took notes from the most popular online shooter in the world, calm down folks.RR360DD

It's not bad that they took notes from the most popular online shooter in the world, calm down folks.getyeryayasout

[QUOTE="getyeryayasout"]It's not bad that they took notes from the most popular online shooter in the world, calm down folks.RR360DD

[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="getyeryayasout"]It's not bad that they took notes from the most popular online shooter in the world, calm down folks.eboyishere

Quit the act guys, its getting tiresome. You can't deny it introduced a lot of fresh elements into multiplayer that worked. Other devs taking inspiration from this is no issue at all, so all this "wahhh now i dont want it" crap can stop.

RR360DD

It introduced Killstreaks which need to go away. It introduced nothing fresh. Its a modern-day quake 3 that moves a lot slower and plays a lot worse.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Looks like about 90% of SW did not manage to look beyond the misleading topic title.

Silverbond

It's obviously designed in the same fashion that politicians do when they intend to induce bias in their favour. Just look at the responses in this thread..... Hell, I'm not even a particularly big UC fan it's obvious that the majority of contributors were emotinally invested to such a degree that they were'nt able to read and comprehend the article.

I'd make an analogy to my own Kinect bias but "see to believe" does'nt describe this thread, "doom and gloom" shortly before the public beta does.

[QUOTE="15strong"]

COD is fun to play online and the most popular online today. Like almost every game to come out since Modern Wrefare, Uncharted 3 will mimic some things in COD. Please stop acting like this is the worst news ever.

Edit: Taking it out of context I see.

He says ,
@ 0:40......."we learned a lot from playing like Call of Duty... on how to make the shooting more responsive"

ChubbyGuy40

-I find it very boring and HATE playing with little kids screaming into their mic or blasting really bad noise (rap) into it.

-There are more games that are more popular with a higher player count.

-No, we aren't taking it out of context. Now hitboxes are going to be very large (Never played the 2nd's multiplayer so I don't know how bad they are) bullets are like lasers and take no time to travel to the target, clips will use magic ammo as in no ammo at all, and killstreaks. KS need to go away. Also CoD's netcode is poor.

I don't really care what you think. Kids yelling in a mic dosen't affect the gameplay and you are being completely biased. COD is the most played game when you consider all platforms. You are jumping to conclusions, didn't watch the video, and are using statements out of context to better your argument against Uncharted and COD. He never said one word about hitboxes, bullet velocity, clip size, or killstreaks. Get your facts straight and stop being biased.

Quit the act guys, its getting tiresome. You can't deny it introduced a lot of fresh elements into multiplayer that worked. Other devs taking inspiration from this is no issue at all, so all this "wahhh now i dont want it" crap can stop.

RR360DD

It introduced a lot of fresh elements into multiplayer, then murdered them by exhausting it's formula with every new release.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Quit the act guys, its getting tiresome. You can't deny it introduced a lot of fresh elements into multiplayer that worked. Other devs taking inspiration from this is no issue at all, so all this "wahhh now i dont want it" crap can stop.

Upparoom

It introduced a lot of fresh elements into multiplayer, then murdered them by exhausting it's formula with every new release.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Quit the act guys, its getting tiresome. You can't deny it introduced a lot of fresh elements into multiplayer that worked. Other devs taking inspiration from this is no issue at all, so all this "wahhh now i dont want it" crap can stop.

Upparoom

It introduced a lot of fresh elements into multiplayer, then murdered them by exhausting it's formula with every new release.