Naughty Dog Interview, "We Learned alot from Playing CALL OF DUTY"

[QUOTE="RoOodriGowW"]

[QUOTE="DCSullyvan"]Copied what exactly? The 2 boosters?!

DCSullyvan

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Oh crap. My hype for this game just plummeted.Elann2008

Why are people losing their hype because of one thing? Regardless of what you say COD has been influential even to Battlefield.

I think it goes to show how prone everybody is to hate on CoD.drinkerofjuice

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Oh crap. My hype for this game just plummeted.drinkerofjuice

Agreed. It IS sad. I'll post it again for ya:

@ 0:40......."we learned a lot from playing like Call of Duty...."

@ 2:00........"Uncharted 2 MP was very fun BUT it lacked some of the features that some of the newer games like Modern Warfare have........and so now we have MASSIVE features...kickbacks, spawning an RPG" from thin air, etc....

How is it taken out of context again? :? I am not prone to hate COD. I just don't like COD. "Call of Duty. Now inspiring third-person shooters." Next up: RPGs....

Why are people losing their hype because of one thing? Regardless of what you say COD has been influential even to Battlefield.

OB-47

Yeah, the Bad Company series.

How is it taken out of context again? :? I am not prone to hate COD. I just don't like COD. "Call of Duty. Now inspiring third-person shooters." Next up: RPGs....

Elann2008

Jeez...I think it is time to do something original for once Naughty Dog

Jeez...I think it is time to do something original for once Naughty Dog

VendettaRed07

Tight, responsive controls and 60fps is always a good thing to implement in any multiplayer shooter(thought i doubt U3 mp will be at 60fps). People need to quit getting so worked up over this.

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"][QUOTE="Elann2008"] Seriously. This is good for me though. I was looking to buy UC3 day one, but not any more. Good because my games will just pile up. Too many games this Q3-Q4. I'll pick it up in the bargain bin. I honestly did not like this comment from ND. I'm rather surprised actually. Shame on them. They should have stayed true to themselves instead of copying another developer's ideas, let alone Activision's. And the fact that UC3 is a third-person shooter and COD an FPS... I don't even know why they would want to mimic COD. Elann2008

Agreed. It IS sad. I'll post it again for ya:

@ 0:40......."we learned a lot from playing like Call of Duty

He said about how to make the shooting more responsive.

We'll see. I trust ND, I know it'll be better than Uncharted 2, which says a lot because for their first attempt, it was really good.

Lets also all remember, CoD4 was great. The others, where balance went out the windo, is when the real hate started. I don't like the RPG kickbacks if I can't spawn quickly but that's why there's a beta. If its not good they'll fix it.

We'll see. I trust ND, I know it'll be better than Uncharted 2, which says a lot because for their first attempt, it was really good.

Lets also all remember, CoD4 was great. The others, where balance went out the windo, is when the real hate started. I don't like the RPG kickbacks if I can't spawn quickly but that's why there's a beta. If its not good they'll fix it.

RandomWinner

naughthy dawg should say they learn a lot frm playing MGS4hippiesanta

Why? MGS4 doen't have anything to offer ND. ND has surpassed MSG4 in terms of cinematics and graphics, UC's gunplay craps all over MGS4's and ND, despite the cookie cutter story of UC, are better storytellers. As far as online is concerned, MGO is pretty janky.

And before anyone mentions that MGS4 could teach ND to make better boss fights, MGS1,2,3 cold teach them that lesson far better.

And so Call of Duty destroys another series.

And so Call of Duty destroys another series.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

And so Call of Duty destroys another series.

DCSullyvan

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

Watch the video, he said in terms of features and gun responsiveness. Everyone must admit that COD are good at those two things.

15strong

Actually checking sources and taking the time to watch things in context is to much work for people in system wars. Your logic reasoning will be overlooked and many will continue to complain.

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"] :lol: It's pretty sad (but also pretty funny) on how badly all of this is being taken out of context. I think it goes to show how prone everybody is to hate on CoD.gaming25

Agreed. It IS sad. I'll post it again for ya:

@ 0:40......."we learned a lot from playing like Call of Duty

He said about how to make the shooting more responsive.

So they're gonna use laser-like bullets/laser tag instead of an actual shooting experience? Or how about adding n00b-tubes?

CoD shooting isn't responsive, neither is its knifing. It makes Battlefield's hit registry look god-like in comparison. That's how bad it is.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

And so Call of Duty destroys another series.

DCSullyvan

So how exactly is playing CoD gonna make it more responsive? Thats making it go backward unless they're gonna remove recoil and give instant bullet travel.

Un-COD-rted 3rich-sac

Really?

[QUOTE="DCSullyvan"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

And so Call of Duty destroys another series.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DCSullyvan"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

And so Call of Duty destroys another series.

ChubbyGuy40

So how exactly is playing CoD gonna make it more responsive? Thats making it go backward unless they're gonna remove recoil and give instant bullet travel.

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

Agreed. It IS sad. I'll post it again for ya:

@ 0:40......."we learned a lot from playing like Call of DutyChubbyGuy40

He said about how to make the shooting more responsive.

CoD shooting isn't responsives.

If games want to be like COD they better do it right... not be half ass liked all the garbage FPS we have been getting in the recent years. Though I seriously doubt Uncharted will be anything like COD in terms of how the game play. I like how Uncharted 2 played, but I cant really say what they need to fix, as I have not played it in a really long time.

Taken way out of context TC.>.>

I actually enjoyed the MP in Uncharted 2 because it wasnt like CoD or any other game for that matter.

The way the guns work, how they sound or most likely, how they respond to the player.

DCSullyvan

So no recoil, airsoft sounds for their guns, and make the player feel like he's some fat kid running outside. I'm pretty sure that isn't an improvement, but a severe downgrade from UC2.

Thats complete BS, your hate for cod is getting out of hand here...

kidcool189

It isn't responsive. There's almost no recoil, bullets are instant-travel, theres no bullet drop (100% accuracy,) blast radius for explosives are totally unfair, and finally, knifing barely works.

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"][QUOTE="Elann2008"] Seriously. This is good for me though. I was looking to buy UC3 day one, but not any more. Good because my games will just pile up. Too many games this Q3-Q4. I'll pick it up in the bargain bin. I honestly did not like this comment from ND. I'm rather surprised actually. Shame on them. They should have stayed true to themselves instead of copying another developer's ideas, let alone Activision's. And the fact that UC3 is a third-person shooter and COD an FPS... I don't even know why they would want to mimic COD. Elann2008

Agreed. It IS sad. I'll post it again for ya:

@ 0:40......."we learned a lot from playing like Call of Duty...."

@ 2:00........"Uncharted 2 MP was very fun BUT it lacked some of the features that some of the newer games like Modern Warfare have........and so now we have MASSIVE features...kickbacks, spawning an RPG" from thin air, etc....

How is it taken out of context again? :? I am not prone to hate COD. I just don't like COD. "Call of Duty. Now inspiring third-person shooters." Next up: RPGs....

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]

Thats complete BS, your hate for cod is getting out of hand here...

ChubbyGuy40

It isn't responsive. There's almost no recoil, bullets are instant-travel, theres no bullet drop (100% accuracy,) blast radius for explosives are totally unfair, and finally, knifing barely works.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]

Thats complete BS, your hate for cod is getting out of hand here...

kidcool189

It isn't responsive. There's almost no recoil, bullets are instant-travel, theres no bullet drop (100% accuracy,) blast radius for explosives are totally unfair, and finally, knifing barely works.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]

Thats complete BS, your hate for cod is getting out of hand here...

kidcool189

It isn't responsive. There's almost no recoil, bullets are instant-travel, theres no bullet drop (100% accuracy,) blast radius for explosives are totally unfair, and finally, knifing barely works.

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

It isn't responsive. There's almost no recoil, bullets are instant-travel, theres no bullet drop (100% accuracy,) blast radius for explosives are totally unfair, and finally, knifing barely works.

mitu123

Half the time it doesn't work. It should go back to having to equip a knife. No one beats CSS knifing. Gotta love that stuff.

And I'm not complaining about the lack of realism. I'm complaining how broken CoD's multiplayer is and why ND would ever want to look for improvements there when they'd only find downgrades. Sorry if pumping a clip from an M60 into someone only to have them run up and knife me isn't how "responsiveness" should work.

I hope he's joking about the knife not working :? Its one of my most powerful weapons in my arsenal..... And I'm not talking about MW2 I really disliked knifing in that game. COD4 and Blackops got it right.

GTSaiyanjin2

Oh no I am. Perhaps is the P2P servers that cause it to lag and somehow miss three times in a row, or somehow being able to be killed by a knife at a stupidly long range, but CoD has the worst knifing feature. Needs to go back to BF2/CSS style where you actually had to equip it.

[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

I hope he's joking about the knife not working :? Its one of my most powerful weapons in my arsenal..... And I'm not talking about MW2 I really disliked knifing in that game. COD4 and Blackops got it right.

ChubbyGuy40

Oh no I am. Perhaps is the P2P servers that cause it to lag and somehow miss three times in a row, or somehow being able to be killed by a knife at a stupidly long range, but CoD has the worst knifing feature. Needs to go back to BF2/CSS style where you actually had to equip it.

Call of duty has some of the tightest shooting mechanics and most well rounded and rewarding multiplayers around. sure it may be rehashed every year, but its still a good formula like it or not.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

I hope he's joking about the knife not working :? Its one of my most powerful weapons in my arsenal..... And I'm not talking about MW2 I really disliked knifing in that game. COD4 and Blackops got it right.

GTSaiyanjin2

Oh no I am. Perhaps is the P2P servers that cause it to lag and somehow miss three times in a row, or somehow being able to be killed by a knife at a stupidly long range, but CoD has the worst knifing feature. Needs to go back to BF2/CSS style where you actually had to equip it.

I don't agree when someone says its a fast paced shooter. Even BC2 is faster than it. MW through Blops feel incredibly sluggish and slow. I feel like some fat kid running on the playground.

I remember sneaking up on a sniper in a building to knife him in the back. Tried twice, he simply turned around and knifed me back. Absolutely BS.

[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Oh no I am. Perhaps is the P2P servers that cause it to lag and somehow miss three times in a row, or somehow being able to be killed by a knife at a stupidly long range, but CoD has the worst knifing feature. Needs to go back to BF2/CSS style where you actually had to equip it.

ChubbyGuy40

I don't agree when someone says its a fast paced shooter. Even BC2 is faster than it. MW through Blops feel incredibly sluggish and slow. I feel like some fat kid running on the playground.

I remember sneaking up on a sniper in a building to knife him in the back. Tried twice, he simply turned around and knifed me back. Absolutely BS.

How is COD not fast paced ? And are you trying to say BF is faster than it ? And I would have not mentioned your knife failures, and its not right to blame the game for it. And Blackops did feel more restrictive than COD4, one of the reasons I still like COD4 more when it comes to controls,movement, and feel of the game. But never would I say the constols were sluggish.

How is COD not fast paced ? And are you trying to say BF is faster than it ? And I would have not mentioned your knife failures, and its not right to blame the game for it. And Blackops did feel more restrictive than COD4, one of the reasons I still like COD4 more when it comes to controls,movement, and feel of the game. But never would I say the constols were sluggish.

GTSaiyanjin2

When I think fast paced, I think of Quake, Unreal Tournament, and counter Strike. Those are fast paced. This is not.

I wasn't saying BF was faster than it. I'm saying Bad Company feels faster. I actually get the sense sprinting does something. Take for example Black Ops. Played some with my brother on 360 today. I don't even bother sprinting, because it just feels so slow. And you shouldn't be able to get knifed 10ft away from you.

Also must mention, the way arms sway when sprinting totally don't match up with the speed you're going. It's one of those CANNOT UNSEE things.

It's the game's fault for not registering, not mine. I never played CoD4 online. I might have, but thats was years ago and no longer care. The series is dead for me anyway.

[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

How is COD not fast paced ? And are you trying to say BF is faster than it ? And I would have not mentioned your knife failures, and its not right to blame the game for it. And Blackops did feel more restrictive than COD4, one of the reasons I still like COD4 more when it comes to controls,movement, and feel of the game. But never would I say the constols were sluggish.

ChubbyGuy40

When I think fast paced, I think of Quake, Unreal Tournament, and counter Strike. Those are fast paced. This is not.

I wasn't saying BF was faster than it. I'm saying Bad Company feels faster. I actually get the sense sprinting does something. Take for example Black Ops. Played some with my brother on 360 today. I don't even bother sprinting, because it just feels so slow. And you shouldn't be able to get knifed 10ft away from you.

Also must mention, the way arms sway when sprinting totally don't match up with the speed you're going. It's one of those CANNOT UNSEE things.

It's the game's fault for not registering, not mine. I never played CoD4 online. I might have, but thats was years ago and no longer care. The series is dead for me anyway.