naughty dog vs rockstar games: who is the king of gaming?

@foxhound_fox: All I gotta say is, Damn you got some monster rigs! Really nice Rigs. Doing a lot of driving in Canada must be fun?

Rock Star... they can actually build something pretty impressive other than a friggin corridor shooter facelifted 5 times over.

@AzatiS:

Review scores mean nothing. It's common for 80+ games to have higher gameplay quality than 90+ games.

Oof! Talk about having to chose between crap and a turd. I'll go with the turd.

Both of them could use a wake-up call.

Lol , how many times people count AAA titles as 90+ scores. Let me find something really quick .

Read what author says and then read comments lol. Someone even said that sales matter !! And thats the first discussion i found about AAA games. I wish i could find some olders ( like almost 10 years ago ) i was participating also to make some people understand that AAA is not score related.

http://n4g.com/user/blogpost/abizzel1/520211

Isn't it fairer to say 'neither of them are in your top 5'.

I can imagine to individuals, either of them being in their top 5.

@AzatiS:

Mmm. A guy's blog on N4G doesn't really instill with confidence that people generally use scores to define a AAA game. The comments from other users seem to conflict with him too. The user mentions it's just his opinion and I don't think it actually has any wide use. It's not exactly what I had in mind when I said a source. ;)

Not everyone is going to use AAA+ or AAA- or know that these have any relation to Metacritic score.

What is a common definition and the one everyone can agree on is that a AAA game is used for games with the largest development budgets. Additional definitions appear to be fabricated by users of different boards and forums but I don't think they're widely used or have any general consensus to really consider them being as part of the definition.

I elaborated on this post in subsequent posts in this thread

Rockstar wins this comparison easily. Naughty Dog is good at doing story driven corridor games with good cinematics and dialogue. Beyond that, they are average at best. If you really break down the UC and TLOU series, they are very similar games. Sure one has a darker setting, and more serious tone, but they both perform very much alike.

Rockstar isn't immune to that either though. Many of their games perform similar as well. GTA, and Red Dead in particular handle very similar.

Here's what sets Rockstar apart though... They offer a far more games based on their tried and true formula than ND does. With ND's formula, they have offered you two franchises. UC, and TLOU. Those are the only two settings you've got. R* has GTA, RDR, Bully, Manhunt, Max Payne, and LA Noire. R* has spread their formula out, giving you far more to play.

While ND has J&D, R* has Midnight Club, and a surprisingly good table tennis.

Sure is! On dry roads....

Gameplay>movie. Rockstar.

Did you read people comments on this specific post to see how many different approaches to what AAA means to some people ? And thats the first discussion i found on google search.

I agree with you but lets say for example , how many times people referring to 90+ games as AAA when for example counting exclusives. There are thousands of posts thru the years with people counting how many 90+ score based games their favorite console has and they reffering to them as AAA and they go something like this " PS4 has 10 AAA Exclusives or Wii U has 5 AAA exclusives etc " just because those 10 games scored 90+. Thats one of the finnest examples what AAA means for many people that is being used for decades.

As for sources , that very first google search i did proves my point that there is a big misconception as of what AAA stands for between many gamers , which is my point to begin with.

So the word caliber next to AAA makes it clear , or not because few months back i had yet another guy couldnt understand what i meant , to what im referring to. Thats all. I have nothing to disagree with your point of view and when i have another example of people reffering to AAAs based on scoring ill give you poke to see for yourself , here in Gamespot.

@AzatiS:

I just feel it's people misusing the term when they use AAA to explain a game that gets good scores. :/

The only sources I can find online from developers, publishers and wikipedia refer to budget. Not scores. The only examples of scores are from forum users, which aren't definitions widely regarded by every gamer, hence the confusion.

Yeah exactly

The only rockstar series I like is Red Dead Redemption(I havent touched GTA V, since GTA IV was one of the worst and most overrated games I've ever played), so ND is an easy pick for me. Real answer is Nintendo EAD. Zelda, Mario, and Metroid are gaming for me

Jesus, I like ND games and all but threads like these make believe ND trully is overrated.

R* no doubt

There are 2 reasonable opinions you can take here. The first is that neither is the 'King of Gaming'. No publisher can be king anymore now that the market is saturated with great developers and companies. The other is that there is no way Naughty Dog is a bigger deal than Rockstar when it comes to gaming. One company publishes Grand Theft Auto while the other didn't.

Implying Rockstar(red dead redemption big exception) has actual good gameplay. Not with that shitty imput lag during actual shooting or horse shit driving controls

The core mechanics of GTA5 isn't the best (far from it) but the freedom and the atmosphere make up for it. Not to mention a kickass multiplayer mode.

A lot of lot goes over my head, but it sounds like you enjoy your work. Though 4-5 mpg? Holy Christ. I knew those rigs got lousy gas mileage, but not that bad...

I see you own Spintires on Steam. Game's great.

Neither

bullshit, when you're the developer behind the grand theft auto series that automatically catapults you into the top five. not even mentioning the other games they've done

Ehh.

On an objective list, sure.

@princeofshapeir: A single series is not enough to catapult you into the top 5.

My opinion is that Grand Theft Auto is the best series in video games, from a quality and production standpoint no other series can compare. The size of the project that is making a GTA game is immense (at least three years and $100 million) and the final outcome is something no other studio can create.

And that's just Rockstar North. San Diego made Red Dead Redemption (GameSpot's 2010 GOTY) plus other Rockstar studios making games like LA Noir, Bully and Table Tennis.

Clearly the king is Rockstar. When you release a game 2 years ago that started on another consoles generation's and it's still in the top 10 games sold every single month for 2 years, that's king shit right there.

The king is Nintendo. They dominated sales, revenue and headlines with Pokémon and Mario this year, and have the most anticipated game next year with BOTW.

Rock Star