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So how many times are all of you gonna get duped by either Forza or GT trailers???
Both series are guilty of showing trailers that didn't represent the actual game.
Comparing the ACTUAL GAME of GT5 to a TRAILER of Forza 4 is just silly. Why don't you just compare trailer to trailer???
That's 16 car races online by the way. Not just in the single modes.I thought SW told me 360 can't have 16 cars on track while looking hot :P
Bus-A-Bus
Looks like the lowly peasant-like Turn 10 is trying to cash in with gimmicks hoping they can climb the ladder of success and someday join the ranks of Polyphony. Dream on guys, that's uncharted territory for you. When it comes down to it, GT will always be the better series.PS2_ROCKSDenial and damage control WTF. GT will always be the better series for fanboys only who keep believing that nonsense. Polyphony has failed their fans, time and time again and has spent countless years making pretty much the same game as the original GT. ***********************************************************************************************
That's 16 car races online by the way. Not just in the single modes.I thought SW told me 360 can't have 16 cars on track while looking hot :P
Bus-A-Bus
Considering GT has been nothing but AA series at most ever since Forza has come on to the scene I think GT/Poly are beyond embarrassed at this point. Poly is damn lucky they started releasing games before Forza came out or it would never get the sales it does with the sub-par games Poly puts out. Most times Poly can not even get a AA score. They released 3 games this gen so far and two of them scored 7.5 and the other was only 8.0. True one was the psp game.
Here is Polyphony Digital taking notes on the AAA Forza 3 in 2009 but PD still could only get a AA games even though they took notes of their main competition and had far more development time.
[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]Except in the driving sim department which is where it matters.Looks freaking stunning. Forza 3 beat GT5. Forza 4 will f***ing destroy it. And what's with people saying GT is better? It loses in pretty much every department.
kuraimen
Please, the driving sim 'derpartment' in GT5 is as inconsistant as the rest of the game.
Except in the driving sim department which is where it matters.[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]
Looks freaking stunning. Forza 3 beat GT5. Forza 4 will f***ing destroy it. And what's with people saying GT is better? It loses in pretty much every department.
the_mitch28
Please, the driving sim 'derpartment' in GT5 is as inconsistant as the rest of the game.
Nope actually GT5 is the better in the sim department, it has more realistic physics. most reviewers agreed on that.[QUOTE="the_mitch28"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Except in the driving sim department which is where it matters.kuraimen
Please, the driving sim 'derpartment' in GT5 is as inconsistant as the rest of the game.
Nope actually GT5 is the better in the sim department, it has more realistic physics. most reviewers agreed on that. And I'm sure Forza 4 will have improved physics - F3 and GT5 felt pretty close anyway.Polyphony has something to learn about everything else except driving physics. FM4 looks good, has tons of features, and they have'nt used more than a couple of years on development, wow. I just hope it has some wheel support for other than just one brand.
oh, amazing.
one of the two only exclusives the Xbox 360 has this year being launched looks better than an exclusive released last year from the PS3 platform.
meanwhile, PS3 owners are stuck playing LittleBigPlanet 2, Infamous 2, Uncharted 3, The Last Guardian, Resistance 3, Killzone 3, Socom 4, Yakuza 4, MLB'11: The Show, Twisted Metal, Motorstorm: Apocalypse, and the several other games being unveiled for it at E3 2011.
pity. i'd hate to be a PS3 owner right now with Forza 4 looking better than Gran Turismo 5! :lol:
Sorry but GT5 is the greatest racer OF ALL TIME!...
on consoles! :P You guys and your photo modes. PC got better visuals than that and actually runs at 1080p with AA AND 3D trees!
GT > Forza. Haters gonna hate
No offence, but that's an incredibly weak argument. At least add to the discussion ....oh, amazing.
one of the two only exclusives the Xbox 360 has this year worth mentioning looks better than an exclusive released last year from the PS3 platform.
meanwhile, PS3 owners are stuck playing LittleBigPlanet 2, Infamous 2, Uncharted 3, The Last Guardian, Resistance 3, Socom 4, Yakuza 4, Motorstorm: Apocalypse, and the several other games being unveiled for it at E3 2011.
pity. :lol:
TheKing012
Yeah if those are the in-game graphics.... yup...
Awesome. Totally awesome. Turn 10 knows exactly what they are doing and they know exactly how to get to where they want to go.
Polyphony has completely dropped the ball. I have one your for you, inconsistency. GT5 is the most inconsistent game of all time. It shows you glimpses of what it could be, then throws trash in your face. I think it's by far the biggest disappointment of this generation.
As much as I love GT5, Turn 10 really seem to be superior developers - if only they joined forces....Yeah if those are the in-game graphics.... yup...
Awesome. Totally awesome. Turn 10 knows exactly what they are doing and they know exactly how to get to where they want to go.
Wasdie
Cows are so much like women, if they can't win an argument they change the subject to something they can win, and think they won the argument :lol:. I love it.oh, amazing.
one of the two only exclusives the Xbox 360 has this year being launched looks better than an exclusive released last year from the PS3 platform.
meanwhile, PS3 owners are stuck playing LittleBigPlanet 2, Infamous 2, Uncharted 3, The Last Guardian, Resistance 3, Killzone 3, Socom 4, Yakuza 4, MLB'11: The Show, Motorstorm: Apocalypse, and the several other games being unveiled for it at E3 2011.
pity. i'd hate to be a PS3 owner right now with Forza 4 looking better than Gran Turismo 5! :lol:
TheKing012
EDIT: btw mods, this joke was entirely satirical. Don't mod me! :P
[QUOTE="Wasdie"]As much as I love GT5, Turn 10 really seem to be superior developers - if only they joined forces....Yeah if those are the in-game graphics.... yup...
Awesome. Totally awesome. Turn 10 knows exactly what they are doing and they know exactly how to get to where they want to go.
Ravensmash
Why? Polyphony has shown they lack managment and true goal setting. GT5 was a mess. What were they thinking? Let's release a game that's only 20% complete? Their ideas and process would only slow down Turn 10.
Cows are so much like women, if they can't win an argument they change the subject to something they can win, and think they won the argument :lol:. I love it.[QUOTE="TheKing012"]
oh, amazing.
one of the two only exclusives the Xbox 360 has this year being launched looks better than an exclusive released last year from the PS3 platform.
meanwhile, PS3 owners are stuck playing LittleBigPlanet 2, Infamous 2, Uncharted 3, The Last Guardian, Resistance 3, Killzone 3, Socom 4, Yakuza 4, MLB'11: The Show, Motorstorm: Apocalypse, and the several other games being unveiled for it at E3 2011.
pity. i'd hate to be a PS3 owner right now with Forza 4 looking better than Gran Turismo 5! :lol:
jamejame
EDIT: btw mods, this joke was entirely satirical. Don't mod me! :P
wait, i don't get it? so that isn't accurate?
i may have excluded the Kinect shovelware. excuse if so.
Cows are so much like women, if they can't win an argument they change the subject to something they can win, and think they won the argument :lol:. I love it.[QUOTE="TheKing012"]
oh, amazing.
one of the two only exclusives the Xbox 360 has this year being launched looks better than an exclusive released last year from the PS3 platform.
meanwhile, PS3 owners are stuck playing LittleBigPlanet 2, Infamous 2, Uncharted 3, The Last Guardian, Resistance 3, Killzone 3, Socom 4, Yakuza 4, MLB'11: The Show, Motorstorm: Apocalypse, and the several other games being unveiled for it at E3 2011.
pity. i'd hate to be a PS3 owner right now with Forza 4 looking better than Gran Turismo 5! :lol:
jamejame
EDIT: btw mods, this joke was entirely satirical. Don't mod me! :P
This is really pathetic. The "lems"(in quotes to emphasize the generalization that you guys are pathetically doing here to compensate for the 360's poor show) using this as ownage for anything that is thrown their way. We know GT5 is not the perfection we wanted, we know it's not an amazing game, but it has the best driving on consoles and the best cars, so quit trying to act like this will compensate for all of the rest of the 360's shortcomings.As much as I love GT5, Turn 10 really seem to be superior developers - if only they joined forces....[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]
Yeah if those are the in-game graphics.... yup...
Awesome. Totally awesome. Turn 10 knows exactly what they are doing and they know exactly how to get to where they want to go.
Wasdie
Why? Polyphony has shown they lack managment and true goal setting. GT5 was a mess. What were they thinking? Let's release a game that's only 20% complete? Their ideas and process would only slow down Turn 10.
I just felt disappointed that ultimately, GT5 felt rather empty - some very odd design choices in there which hampered the game overall - still a good game though. But yeah, I expect Forza 4 to be incredible.[QUOTE="jamejame"]Cows are so much like women, if they can't win an argument they change the subject to something they can win, and think they won the argument :lol:. I love it.[QUOTE="TheKing012"]
oh, amazing.
one of the two only exclusives the Xbox 360 has this year being launched looks better than an exclusive released last year from the PS3 platform.
meanwhile, PS3 owners are stuck playing LittleBigPlanet 2, Infamous 2, Uncharted 3, The Last Guardian, Resistance 3, Killzone 3, Socom 4, Yakuza 4, MLB'11: The Show, Motorstorm: Apocalypse, and the several other games being unveiled for it at E3 2011.
pity. i'd hate to be a PS3 owner right now with Forza 4 looking better than Gran Turismo 5! :lol:
da-KGB-
EDIT: btw mods, this joke was entirely satirical. Don't mod me! :P
This is really pathetic. The "lems"(in quotes to emphasize the generalization that you guys are pathetically doing here to compensate for the 360's poor show) using this as ownage for anything that is thrown their way. We know GT5 is not the perfection we wanted, we know it's not an amazing game, but it has the best driving on consoles and the best cars, so quit trying to act like this will compensate for all of the rest of the 360's shortcomings. Again...I fail to see how this is relevant to the thread. We're discussing racing games here - not 2011 as a whole...Looks like the lowly peasant-like Turn 10 is trying to cash in with gimmicks hoping they can climb the ladder of success and someday join the ranks of Polyphony. Dream on guys, that's uncharted territory for you. When it comes down to it, GT will always be the better series.PS2_ROCKSPolyphony is a garbage dev, all they do is waste money and hand out gimmicks (lol1000 cars! 80% rehashed from gt4). Wildly inconsistent graphics of cars And tracks, a terrible grind fest of a game.
However, I think it's a shame that both devs are console only, pc kinda gets the shaft on racing games, sure we get horrible looking sims, but they really aren't much of games.
[QUOTE="da-KGB-"][QUOTE="jamejame"]Cows are so much like women, if they can't win an argument they change the subject to something they can win, and think they won the argument :lol:. I love it.This is really pathetic. The "lems"(in quotes to emphasize the generalization that you guys are pathetically doing here to compensate for the 360's poor show) using this as ownage for anything that is thrown their way. We know GT5 is not the perfection we wanted, we know it's not an amazing game, but it has the best driving on consoles and the best cars, so quit trying to act like this will compensate for all of the rest of the 360's shortcomings. Again...I fail to see how this is relevant to the thread. We're discussing racing games here - not 2011 as a whole...EDIT: btw mods, this joke was entirely satirical. Don't mod me! :P
Ravensmash
He knows that T10 and Forza utterly destroy PD and GT so he has to try to change the subject. Its classic SW strategy.
T10 is quality over quantity and PD is quantity over quality.
852 Honda Civics with PS2 graphics.
Why wouldn't it we already know the 360 can produce the same graphics as PS3, but screw graphics Forza gameplay is were it's at and it dominates the competition.
Again...I fail to see how this is relevant to the thread. We're discussing racing games here - not 2011 as a whole...[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="da-KGB-"] This is really pathetic. The "lems"(in quotes to emphasize the generalization that you guys are pathetically doing here to compensate for the 360's poor show) using this as ownage for anything that is thrown their way. We know GT5 is not the perfection we wanted, we know it's not an amazing game, but it has the best driving on consoles and the best cars, so quit trying to act like this will compensate for all of the rest of the 360's shortcomings.Fizzman
He knows that T10 and Forza utterly destroy PD and GT so he has to try to change the subject. Its classic SW strategy.
T10 is quality over quantity and PD is quantity over quality.
852 Honda Civics with PS2 graphics.
no, he's right.
Lems are trying to compensate for their two exclusives this year by somehow using Forza>Gran Turismo as a catalyst to shield themselves from the past few empty months they've had to endure.
lets not fool ourselves here. this thread is pertaining to one of the two games Xbox 360 owners might actually get to play this year that are exclusive to this console.
[QUOTE="jamejame"]Cows are so much like women, if they can't win an argument they change the subject to something they can win, and think they won the argument :lol:. I love it.[QUOTE="TheKing012"]
oh, amazing.
one of the two only exclusives the Xbox 360 has this year being launched looks better than an exclusive released last year from the PS3 platform.
meanwhile, PS3 owners are stuck playing LittleBigPlanet 2, Infamous 2, Uncharted 3, The Last Guardian, Resistance 3, Killzone 3, Socom 4, Yakuza 4, MLB'11: The Show, Motorstorm: Apocalypse, and the several other games being unveiled for it at E3 2011.
pity. i'd hate to be a PS3 owner right now with Forza 4 looking better than Gran Turismo 5! :lol:
da-KGB-
EDIT: btw mods, this joke was entirely satirical. Don't mod me! :P
This is really pathetic. The "lems"(in quotes to emphasize the generalization that you guys are pathetically doing here to compensate for the 360's poor show) using this as ownage for anything that is thrown their way. We know GT5 is not the perfection we wanted, we know it's not an amazing game, but it has the best driving on consoles and the best cars, so quit trying to act like this will compensate for all of the rest of the 360's shortcomings.Say who?
Graphically, I don't care. But in terms of gameplay, I think yes. I see more potential in this one, as it fixes what I didn't love about the last game.
[QUOTE="da-KGB-"][QUOTE="jamejame"]Cows are so much like women, if they can't win an argument they change the subject to something they can win, and think they won the argument :lol:. I love it.This is really pathetic. The "lems"(in quotes to emphasize the generalization that you guys are pathetically doing here to compensate for the 360's poor show) using this as ownage for anything that is thrown their way. We know GT5 is not the perfection we wanted, we know it's not an amazing game, but it has the best driving on consoles and the best cars, so quit trying to act like this will compensate for all of the rest of the 360's shortcomings. Again...I fail to see how this is relevant to the thread. We're discussing racing games here - not 2011 as a whole...EDIT: btw mods, this joke was entirely satirical. Don't mod me! :P
Ravensmash
It's relevant to what I quoted clearly, and it seems to be the general attitude in this thread...
This is really pathetic. The "lems"(in quotes to emphasize the generalization that you guys are pathetically doing here to compensate for the 360's poor show) using this as ownage for anything that is thrown their way. We know GT5 is not the perfection we wanted, we know it's not an amazing game, but it has the best driving on consoles and the best cars, so quit trying to act like this will compensate for all of the rest of the 360's shortcomings.[QUOTE="da-KGB-"][QUOTE="jamejame"]Cows are so much like women, if they can't win an argument they change the subject to something they can win, and think they won the argument :lol:. I love it.
EDIT: btw mods, this joke was entirely satirical. Don't mod me! :P
Ultra_Combo
Say who?
Everyone...most realistic, yeah ;)[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"][QUOTE="da-KGB-"] This is really pathetic. The "lems"(in quotes to emphasize the generalization that you guys are pathetically doing here to compensate for the 360's poor show) using this as ownage for anything that is thrown their way. We know GT5 is not the perfection we wanted, we know it's not an amazing game, but it has the best driving on consoles and the best cars, so quit trying to act like this will compensate for all of the rest of the 360's shortcomings.da-KGB-
Say who?
Everyone...most realistic, yeah ;)Really ? link?
gameplay footage at the end the video looked avarage at best.
why do we have to go thru with this again?
same old cinematic footage like from forza 2 and 3 where 99%of people though it was gameplay and then 99% all got owned when they played the game.
i guess some people never learn.
Own me then, Forza. If I want a racer, I go Forza, not GT. Want to see more of the Kinect features. The mirror checking was cool.no, he's right.
Lems are trying to compensate for their two exclusives this year by somehow using Forza>Gran Turismo as a catalyst to shield themselves from the past few empty months they've had to endure.
lets not fool ourselves here. this thread is pertaining to one of the two games Xbox 360 owners might actually get to play this year that are exclusive to this console.
TheKing012
is anyone going to dispute this point, or is this to be taken as fact?
Everyone...most realistic, yeah ;)[QUOTE="da-KGB-"][QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]
Say who?
Ultra_Combo
Really ? link?
Well,to be fair some reviewers touted the game as such when it came out,particulary IGN if I remember correctly,and from my experience with both,GT5 does feel more believable and more accurate(especially when comparing lap times to the real deal),but Forza 3 is in most ways the better game.[QUOTE="TheKing012"]
no, he's right.
Lems are trying to compensate for their two exclusives this year by somehow using Forza>Gran Turismo as a catalyst to shield themselves from the past few empty months they've had to endure.
lets not fool ourselves here. this thread is pertaining to one of the two games Xbox 360 owners might actually get to play this year that are exclusive to this console.
TheKing012
is anyone going to dispute this point, or is this to be taken as fact?
What's there to say? It seems like you're trying to come up with an outlandish reason for this thread to be made.[QUOTE="TheKing012"]
no, he's right.
Lems are trying to compensate for their two exclusives this year by somehow using Forza>Gran Turismo as a catalyst to shield themselves from the past few empty months they've had to endure.
lets not fool ourselves here. this thread is pertaining to one of the two games Xbox 360 owners might actually get to play this year that are exclusive to this console.
TheKing012
is anyone going to dispute this point, or is this to be taken as fact?
I think the fact that no one is arguing with you is because no one cares. :wink:[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"][QUOTE="da-KGB-"] Everyone...most realistic, yeah ;)Arach666
Really ? link?
Well,to be fair some reviewers touted the game as such when it came out,particulary IGN if I remember correctly,and from my experience with both,GT5 does feel more believable and more accurate(especially when comparing lap times to the real deal),but Forza 3 is in most ways the better game.So wait a second IGN? the site cow have been calling IGNorant and denying there credibilty because they said C2 is console graphcs king? :lol: sorry can't have it both ways either IGN is credible and C2 is console graphics king or there not and really no one else saying GT5 is a better simulator so which one is it?
[QUOTE="Grawse"]Cows in denial maybe. I will be the first to admit Forza stomps GT into the ground and is my favorite racing series by far now.Please stop saying Forza is better than GT, we all know it, but it's a touchy subject with cows.
djsifer01
People are way too attached to their systems. You are an xbox fanboy and UC2 is garbage.You are a PS3 fanboy and GT5 is da king baby. Refuse to admit good games are on both system and both are worth the price of admission.
Ugh... Forza is starting to look like another CoD. :?
Yes, they develop the games faster.
And yes, they get higher scores, but look at what PD is doing.
They are actually supporting the damn game. Instead of putting all effort on the next GT title, PD has been releasing massive updates that add functionality and polish up/fix existing features.
Ugh... Forza is starting to look like another CoD. :?
Yes, they develop the games faster.
And yes, they get higher scores, but look at what PD is doing.
They are actually supporting the damn game. Instead of putting all effort on the next GT title, PD has been releasing massive updates that add functionality and polish up and fix existing features.
Rikusaki
PD is releasing massive updates because they released an incomplete game.
T10 has been constantly adding new cars and featues to Forza. Its not T10's fault they can make a quality product in less time.
Also I would hope PD does support GT5 since we won't be seeing GT6 until 2017.
Ugh... Forza is starting to look like another CoD. :?
Yes, they develop the games faster.
And yes, they get higher scores, but look at what PD is doing.
They are actually supporting the damn game. Instead of putting all effort on the next GT title, PD has been releasing massive updates that add functionality and polish up and fix existing features.
Rikusaki
Uh no adding patches for things that should have been in the game in the first place after 5 YEARS of development is not
"supporting the dam game" it's saying we didn't give you finished game. But if that makes you feel better about them thinking that way then yes they are "supporting the dam game".
[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]
Ugh... Forza is starting to look like another CoD. :?
Yes, they develop the games faster.
And yes, they get higher scores, but look at what PD is doing.
They are actually supporting the damn game. Instead of putting all effort on the next GT title, PD has been releasing massive updates that add functionality and polish up and fix existing features.
Fizzman
PD is releasing massive updates because they released an incomplete game.
T10 has been constantly adding new cars and featues to Forza. Its not T10's fault they can make a quality product in less time.
Also I would hope PD does support GT5 since we won't be seeing GT6 until 2017.
Dam fizz beat me to it :P
[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]
Ugh... Forza is starting to look like another CoD. :?
Yes, they develop the games faster.
And yes, they get higher scores, but look at what PD is doing.
They are actually supporting the damn game. Instead of putting all effort on the next GT title, PD has been releasing massive updates that add functionality and polish up and fix existing features.
Fizzman
PD is releasing massive updates because they released an incomplete game.
T10 has been constantly adding new cars and featues to Forza. Its not T10's fault they can make a quality product in less time.
Also I would hope PD does support GT5 since we won't be seeing GT6 until 2017.
Exactly what I was going to say.
[QUOTE="Rikusaki"] but look at what PD is doing...releasing massive updates that add functionality and polish up/fix existing features.Verge_6Considering the state GT5 was in when it was released, they had goddamned better be releasing massive updates and fix ups. Sure, okay, but Forza isn't perfect either. FM3 could have used some bug fixes and updates too. PD actually added featured to GT5 that didn't exist before. Has Turn 10 ever done the same?
[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"] but look at what PD is doing...releasing massive updates that add functionality and polish up/fix existing features.RikusakiConsidering the state GT5 was in when it was released, they had goddamned better be releasing massive updates and fix ups. Sure, okay, but Forza isn't perfect either. FM3 could have used some bug fixes and updates too. PD actually added featured to GT5 that didn't exist before. Has Turn 10 ever done the same?
Which one's?
[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"] but look at what PD is doing...releasing massive updates that add functionality and polish up/fix existing features.RikusakiConsidering the state GT5 was in when it was released, they had goddamned better be releasing massive updates and fix ups. Sure, okay, but Forza isn't perfect either. FM3 could have used some bug fixes and updates too. PD actually added featured to GT5 that didn't exist before. Has Turn 10 ever done the same?
Yes, Forza 3 needed some patches. To the degree GT5 did? Christ in heaven, no. And those features that 'weren't there before' should have been there to begin with. Praising a car manufacturer for sending out spark plugs to its customers because the cars they bought didn't have them doesn't make much sense.
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