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#151 mangobear
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[QUOTE="mangobear"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="mangobear"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="mangobear"]I'll take Bioware's words over yours (no offense). You are aware that some parts of the game aren't fully optimized yet? Every screen shot (including the good ones) have been direct screen grabs from the game running on the 360 in real time. So that can only mean, that the game is still not finished and in the optimizing stage. And I still need a link proving that a PC with high system requirements is needed to run those screenshots while the 360 can't.Skippyj9

Alright,I understand that,but we'll see when the final product hits. As for the link,we'll have to wait for the official Mass Effect for Pc announcement,then the high requirements will be revealed.

In other words, you have absolutely no proof for anything you've said so far with regards to the quality of Mass Effect when it is completed.

And where is your proof that the game will look absolutely better when it releases?Provide final screenshots of the retail product,since you seem to have the proof? The thing is,the latest screenshots of the final product disagree with your logic.

Have you understood anything I've written? It seems not.

Every screenshot Bioware releases is a screengrab from the game running on the 360. As you can see, some parts are done, others are not optimized, and according to Bioware, everything will be optimized to look as good or better than the screenshot I've posted. Now, where is your proof that the game will ship with downgraded graphics?

Where is your proof that it won't?

If you don't keep up with the game, you wouldn't really understand. Every screenshot Bioware releases has been a screengrab from the game. Now you want to tell me that they're suddenly having problems running the game like they had last year? Or maybe some parts of the game aren't as optimized yet? I think I'll take Bioware's word over anyone else's in this forum ;)

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#152 project343
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Which one do we trust?

 

The four new pictures that came from Gamespot, or the picture from Bioware's official site?

That's up to you.

Willy105

 

Which do we trust? Bioware with their latest build, or Gamespot with an unoptimized, dated build?

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#153 -Antisocial-
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The developer said the code wasn't optimised, so of course they'd look better. But, truth be told, I've never been impressed by graphics in Bioware games...
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#154 machitocaliente
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[QUOTE=">Every screenshot Bioware releases is a screengrab from the game running on the pc.

 

mangobear

 

fixed.  what do you think DEVS use? a big xbox? nop. PC.  When the game is finished = moved / downgraded

2 the xbox  and tested.  

 

 

 

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#155 bman784
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Wait...so you guys think that the final game will look like that:?

 

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#156 killab2oo5
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Thank goodness for 480i stretched to 720p.hamumu
I was just about to say that,plus theyre VERY VERY VERY horribly compressed.:)Anyone quote me if you think you can claim "ownage" later,Mass Effect will be one of the best looking games when released,and will look exactly like the "CGI" build or better,if im wrong I leave system wars forever,if you lose you elave system wars forever.Refer to this thread.
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#157 fatzombiepigeon
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[QUOTE="Willy105"]Which one do we trust?

 

The four new pictures that came from Gamespot, or the picture from Bioware's official site?

That's up to you.

project343

 

Which do we trust? Bioware with their latest build, or Gamespot with an unoptimized, dated build?

Just hold your breath until the game's release. It will look fantastic. Everyone knows. They're getting their laughs out now, it will be weeping when the game comes out. The pics are stretched from an older build, and the exact same thing that happened with Gears is happening all over again.

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#158 machitocaliente
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Wait...so you guys think that the final game will look like that:?

bman784
yep. unless they call epic XD
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#159 juanfraino
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Downgrade confirmed :(
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#160 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="Willy105"]Which one do we trust?

 

The four new pictures that came from Gamespot, or the picture from Bioware's official site?

That's up to you.

project343

 

Which do we trust? Bioware with their latest build, or Gamespot with an unoptimized, dated build?

 

Gamespot doesn't have a build of the game... if they did we would see ton's more screen shots.  

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#161 asdasd
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Wait...so you guys think that the final game will look like that:?

 

bman784

Lemmings seem to think like that about every PS3 games thats a long time from release. (MGS4 comes to mind) 

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#162 fatzombiepigeon
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[QUOTE="bman784"]

Wait...so you guys think that the final game will look like that:?

 

asdasd

Lemmings seem to think like that about every PS3 games thats a long time from release. (MGS4 comes to mind) 

MGS4 is in Alpha stages. Of course it will look better.

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#163 e20Dylan
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lair looks amazing and 10x better then this game. but this game will be good also. it just doesnt look very good from the looks of it graphic wise i bet it plays very well tho
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#164 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="mangobear"]How exactly are you going to prove that? I know the game will look better as they optimize it, and as Bioware's Community Coordinator said on their forums many times, the screenshots aren't representative of the final product. I'm just curious, what proof do you have that the screenshots in this thread are a representation of the final game?Dualshockin
Only a Pc can run the old Mass Effect screenshots,and even then it would have very high system requirements. Like I said,Mass Effect will look good.But IMO there's really no way the 360 can do such amazing graphics with the current hardware.

You seem confident.:)Be my guest and sign in this thread
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#165 GermanShepard06
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this is old.

i spoke about the downgrade four months ago.

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#166 skixwolf
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Are those from the Wii version? :lol: why the hell would they release screens from a crappy build, teh lame!
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#167 Raidea
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Trolls attacking for massive damage.

Remember the last big exclusive 360 title, Gears of War, remember the amount of hate threads...the claims of 'jaggies' and bad framerate. Oh, and the fact that game was 'downgraded'. 

You'd do well to remember what happened with Gears (9.6, GOTY) before attacking ME. 

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#168 PannicAtack
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Why do people get so upset about a supposed graphics downgrade? What, you were all hyping the graphics? There's a hell of a lot more to hype about this game, and the fact that everyone's clamoring over the graphics is a disregard to what Bioware intends to do in the gameplay department. If I worked at Bioware, I'd be insulted. >_>
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#169 bman784
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Tell me...what game DOES look like that in this day and age? Those screens look terrible. In fact much worse that damn near all software currently out on the 360 or PS3...even the worst graphical games. Look at all of the textures. Can you honestly say that is even close to the actual resolution:?  If you think that this is a game at a full resolution...or with even remotely final graphics, I feel bad for you:( You can come up with fanboy conspiracy theories without subterfuge, but if Bioware says that their gameplay demos were running  in real time on the 360 hardware, I'll be much more apt to believe them over fanboys conspiracists with no common sense.
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#170 kyle-244
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Looks awsome
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#171 the_hsoj
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WTH are you guys talking about it dosnt look awful, so what it dosent look quite as stunning graphicly as some previos picture to me it still looks good
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#172 kcpp2b
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[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="web966"]Thta looks really bad. What happened?Dualshockin

Honestly,I always knew Mass Effect wouldnt look the way it did when the final product hit,the 360 simply does not have enough power and space to run Mass Effect in high quality.

then why is Gears the best looking game this generation so far? the 360 has plenty of power

Crysis is the best looking game,closely followed by Lair,then GeOW. Mass Effect looks good,but it doesnt look as good as it looked before.And this in SW,can be considered as a downgrade.

I thought Gears looked amazing before release. Gameplay vids I saw of it

Gameplay I have seen of Lair is not as good as Gears sorry. And don't try to pass of some of those cutscene screenshots as gameplay like some of you have

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#173 Fruity_Fantasy
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Trolls attacking for massive damage.

Remember the last big exclusive 360 title, Gears of War, remember the amount of hate threads...the claims of 'jaggies' and bad framerate. Oh, and the fact that game was 'downgraded'. 

You'd do well to remember what happened with Gears (9.6, GOTY) before attacking ME. 

Raidea

What he said^

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#174 fatzombiepigeon
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Comon people. In HD, games like Lost Planet, which don't even push hardware to it's limits, looks brilliant. Kameo in 720p looks amazing. A game pushing the hardware to it's limits in HD can look like Mass Effect. Even the KZ hype trailer is possible on PS3 and 360 now. Hardware has taken great steps in just two years. Mass Effect is possible.
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#175 fatzombiepigeon
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="web966"]Thta looks really bad. What happened?kcpp2b

Honestly,I always knew Mass Effect wouldnt look the way it did when the final product hit,the 360 simply does not have enough power and space to run Mass Effect in high quality.

then why is Gears the best looking game this generation so far? the 360 has plenty of power

Crysis is the best looking game,closely followed by Lair,then GeOW. Mass Effect looks good,but it doesnt look as good as it looked before.And this in SW,can be considered as a downgrade.

I thought Gears looked amazing before release. Gameplay vids I saw of it

Gameplay I have seen of Lair is not as good as Gears sorry. And don't try to pass of some of those cutscene screenshots as gameplay like some of you have

 No, the shots before release around this time for Gears had lots of jaggies, and "downgrades". When it was released all those downgrade shots were forgotten.

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#176 kcpp2b
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How can it be downgraded if we've all already seen it in motion being played, and it looks amazing?swaginator

It doesn't matter Cows read from www.blindcowgospel.com it doesn't matter that this same thing happened with Gears. And that in the gameplay videos of Mass Effect I have seen it looks amazing, even during the combat not just the ingameplay cutscenes

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#177 fatzombiepigeon
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I lold

[QUOTE="swaginator"]How can it be downgraded if we've all already seen it in motion being played, and it looks amazing?kcpp2b

It doesn't matter Cows read from www.blindcowgospel.com it doesn't matter that this same thing happened with Gears. And that in the gameplay videos of Mass Effect I have seen it looks amazing, even during the combat not just the ingameplay cutscenes

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#178 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="hamumu"][QUOTE="Willy105"]

[QUOTE="dragonlife29"]Some people are too delicate--I think it's going to be a great game regardless. Einhanderkiller

Exactly.

Why do people vomit when seeing jaggies? It's not like it makes the game unplayable.

It's wonderful to know your knowledge of graphics.

Jaggies? Are you kidding me? The screens are completely anti-aliased (Although this from stretching and poor image quality, not the game itself). They've been stretched, and stretching=blurring and blurring=no jaggy edges.

Another fail post.

Even with the blurring there is aliasing present in the images, you just have to look more closely.

 

Um maybebecause at most itsusing 4xAA? Which also happens to be the max on the PS3. AA in its currant state doesnt come close to removing all jaggies. AA reduces them but doesnt remove them completely. Thats why ATi and Nvidia keep releasing new AA mods with each new generation. With the G70 it was transparency aa (for fences and trees and stuff). With the G80 its 16xCSAA and the r600 will have 8xQAA.

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#179 heretrix
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Let me tell you whats going to happen. These cows will get owned AGAIN, disappear from system wars for awhile OR get banned, and the new cows that come here are going to whine about how they are treated because the lemmings are bashing them. It's a vicious cycle that will never be broken because of crap like this. Some people never learn.

The reason why System Wars is full of lemmings is because of dumb threads like these that explode in the cows faces and they can't take the ownage then leave out of shame.

 

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#180 grovestreet12
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They are only doing damage control. They will say anything to squash negative feedback. All developers do this and at the end it doesn't turn out any different when games are released. I do remember the past videos being a bit choppy due to bad frame rate. This is why it bugs me that they may have downgraded just a lil, for the game to run better. It is an RPG after all.

One thing I've learned from experience, is that always take a developers point of view with a grain of salt.
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#181 kcpp2b
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Hey DualShock

 

Tell me one thing, have you seen the gameplay vids of Mass Effect?

I mean first off Gears's gameplay vids destroy what I have seen from Lair's and same thing with Mass Effect.
The Lair gameplay vids I have seen are the ones with blur as you say. There's thousands of soldiers on a screen at once but many of them doing the same thing and are not unique and just added as background while the ones in the front are the real characters you can see with more detail and movement.

Lair does not look amazing in gameplay vids. It looks good but to compare with Gears and saying it beats it is absurd. Just based on gameplay vids alone which are more important then screenshots.

And with Mass Effect it's the same thing, compare the gameplay vids of both. It's obious Mass Effect looks good and better then Lair. How do you keep talking about the screenshos when the gameplay vids we have seen and already look good.

Your only defense is that Bioware is pulling another killzone2 trailer situation 

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#182 project343
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People should really watch Gametrailer's latest interview, as it has gorgeous off-screen footage of in-game Mass Effect.
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#183 rappid_rabbit
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Hey DualShock

Tell me one thing, have you seen the gameplay vids of Mass Effect?

I mean first off Gears's gameplay vids destroy what I have seen from Lair's and same thing with Mass Effect.
The Lair gameplay vids I have seen are the ones with blur as you say. There's thousands of soldiers on a screen at once but many of them doing the same thing and are not unique and just added as background while the ones in the front are the real characters you can see with more detail and movement.

Lair does not look amazing in gameplay vids. It looks good but to compare with Gears and saying it beats it is absurd. Just based on gameplay vids alone which are more important then screenshots.

And with Mass Effect it's the same thing, compare the gameplay vids of both. It's obious Mass Effect looks good and better then Lair. How do you keep talking about the screenshos when the gameplay vids we have seen and already look good.

Your only defense is that Bioware is pulling another killzone2 trailer situation

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As pretty as Lair may or not be...I just dont think it will be a good game...could be wrong though...The only dragon game for me is Panzer.. Panzer FTW
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#184 Catastrophe123
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Keep it up!!! I'm loving it. Bring up the fact that Heavenly Sword looks better too.DaysAirlines
Go to the Heavenly Sword official website and show me where it says that it will be a PS3 exlusive game.

 

That's right... because it was announced multiplat right? :roll:

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#185 Fruity_Fantasy
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Here cow turds look and drool, FF13 or even all the FF games won't be half as good as this game:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=17909&type=mov&pl=game

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#186 orangeillini14
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:lol: Wii games look better. ;)
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#187 SpartanCawderof
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This is just like Downgrade of War! I mean, Gears looked terrible when it came out. The cows are never wrong :|
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#188 heretrix
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:lol: Wii games look better. ;)orangeillini14
:lol:

(Laughing @ U BTW)

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#189 MoldOnHold
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What happened?! Ugh I'll wait for my retail copy before I say anything.
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#190 BackFlip101
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Ewwww.

What happened? Downgrade? Those old pics kick these ones in the ass.

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#191 Amnesiacx
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LMFAO. TLHBO!

Bioware shouldn't even release new screens if they're this bad. We already confirmed that the graphics were downgraded a few days ago, but now we see that the game has hit a new high the all-time biggest downgrade award for a videogame. :P

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#192 bman784
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:lol: Wii games look better. ;)orangeillini14
Which solidifies the fact that it's preposterous to think that the final game will bear semblance to the quality of these screens.
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#193 asdasd
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Here cow turds look and drool, FF13 or even all the FF games won't be half as good as this game:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=17909&type=mov&pl=game

Fruity_Fantasy

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=15568&type=wmv&pl=game 

I dont care how good a game is, or how good its graphics are. I will NOT play Mass Effect if the FPS stays like it was on this video 

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#194 Amnesiacx
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[QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"]

Here cow turds look and drool, FF13 or even all the FF games won't be half as good as this game:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=17909&type=mov&pl=game

asdasd

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=15568&type=wmv&pl=game

I dont care how good a game is, or how good its graphics are. I will NOT play Mass Effect if the FPS stays like it was on this video

These downgrades to the graphics that we see were put into place so that they could actually get themselves an acceptable framerate. :P

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#195 Fruity_Fantasy
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[QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"]

Here cow turds look and drool, FF13 or even all the FF games won't be half as good as this game:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=17909&type=mov&pl=game

asdasd

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=15568&type=wmv&pl=game 

I dont care how good a game is, or how good its graphics are. I will NOT play Mass Effect if the FPS stays like it was on this video 

Maybe your computer can't handle HD movies, try the regular movie for slower computers. The framerate looks good to me.

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#196 Willy105
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[QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"]

Here cow turds look and drool, FF13 or even all the FF games won't be half as good as this game:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=17909&type=mov&pl=game

Fruity_Fantasy

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=15568&type=wmv&pl=game 

I dont care how good a game is, or how good its graphics are. I will NOT play Mass Effect if the FPS stays like it was on this video 

Maybe your computer can't handle HD movies, try the regular movie for slower computers. The framerate looks good to me.

Besides, don't worry.

Remeber Gears of War? It used to run at 4 frames per second at E3 2006, and now it runs at a better 20 fps. I'll get better.

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#197 asdasd
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[QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"]

Here cow turds look and drool, FF13 or even all the FF games won't be half as good as this game:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=17909&type=mov&pl=game

Fruity_Fantasy

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=15568&type=wmv&pl=game

I dont care how good a game is, or how good its graphics are. I will NOT play Mass Effect if the FPS stays like it was on this video

Maybe your computer can't handle HD movies, try the regular movie for slower computers. The framerate looks good to me.

Wow.. just wow..

You're a blind fanboy if you cant see the framerate drops in that video.

Just notice when he fires his gun, sometimes the game just freezes for a second. And dont give me some !@#$ about my computer not being able to handle HD movies, its the same thing in the regular version of that video. 

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#198 rhaigun
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Wow.. just wow..

You're a blind fanboy if you cant see the framerate drops in that video.

Just notice when he fires his gun, sometimes the game just freezes for a second. And dont give me some !@#$ about my computer not being able to handle HD movies, its the same thing in the regular version of that video. 

Fruity_Fantasy

You shouldn't judge framerate unless your playing the game. You can't rely on a video you're receiving from a website. There could be a number of reasons why it might skip or jump.

The ownage from this game is going to be huge. I am personally going to take pictures off of my Samsung DLP when this game releases. I can't wait.

 

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#199 joeychew
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err...wtf happen?
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#200 amourkiss588
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honestly, it does not look very good

decent though