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http://www.oxm.co.uk/68253/new-quantum-break-details-how-the-cross-media-storyline-works/

New Quantum Break details - how the cross-media storyline works

"You'll be looking at two different sides of the coin," says Remedy

Posted on Wednesday 18-Dec-2013 11:14 AM GMT By Edwin Evans-Thirlwell, Deputy Editor for OXM

The mists are beginning to clear as regards Remedy's Quantum Break, perhaps the most mysterious of the Xbox One's exclusives, with the possible exception of Capybara's Below. Last week we learned that the game is a third-person shooter with cover elements, in which you can meddle with time for a tactical advantage. Now, head of franchise development Oskari Hakkinen has revealed a little more to Develop about how Quantum Break's narrative works.

If you recall, the game features lengthy live action TV episodes which unlock as you progress, and are all included on the disc. According to Hakkinen, the inspiration for this came both from Remedy's prior games and developments in the mainstream TV market.

"It was during that time that the big series started to come out with HBO and whatnot, Lost for instance was one where people were buying the boxsets, and then watching the episodes at their own pace," he told the site. "Some are binging through it, some are watching one a day, some are watching one every other day or once a week, but all at their own pace.

"The great thing about it was each episode had its own three act structure and ended on a cliffhanger, which kind of prodded you on to see what happened next. [Creative director Sam Lake] got the idea from that, that this would be a fantastic fit for a video game, especially a video game that has very strong narrative, because we're telling the story over ten plus hours."

Remedy tried this out for itself with cult survival horror title Alan Wake. The results were compelling, said Hakkinen. "With Alan Wake, having a very high completion rate was partly to do with the structure we built.

"What we read on our forums and from media and fans was that some people played through the whole experience from start to finish - the bingers - but some people, folks that didn't have the time to do that, they'd play one episode. It was a perfect cut off point, and they'd know that the next chunk would take an hour to an hour and a half."

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The idea in Quantum Break is to alternate between episodes of the game and the TV show. "The game and the show are designed to be built as one experience, to be experienced as one package. So you play an episode of the game, then you can unlock an episode of the show, play another episode of the game, and unlock another episode of the show, and so on.

"Without telling too much, you'll be looking at two different sides of the coin from a story perspective," Hakkinen hinted. "In the game you'll be following the story of one theme, in the show you'll be following the story of another theme. These are meshing together to form the whole experience."

If you'd rather not view an episode immediately after unlocking it, you can view it later - or even on another device. "Obviously we are not naive to the fact that some people may not necessarily want to watch some linear media when they slot out their gaming time. So once it is unlocked, it's unlocked for you to jump in or experience whenever you then so choose.

"So it could be you catch up on it through your tablet device or your mobile device on the bus to work, and then you get home and you're ready for the next experience."

Intrigued? We're just getting warmed up. Quantum Break is one of OXM's most promising Xbox One games of 2014.

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I will go to many extents to play a remedy game.

Luckily I bought my Brother a bone for Xmas so i'll get a chance to give this game a whirl and extremely excited about it.

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@Animal-Mother said:

I will go to many extents to play a remedy game.

Luckily I bought my Brother a bone for Xmas so i'll get a chance to give this game a whirl and extremely excited about it.

I like the idea of not being forced to watch the episode. It seems like the SmartGlass feature might finally have a use.

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@brucebenzing said:

@Animal-Mother said:

I will go to many extents to play a remedy game.

Luckily I bought my Brother a bone for Xmas so i'll get a chance to give this game a whirl and extremely excited about it.

I like the idea of not being forced to watch the episode. It seems like the SmartGlass feature might finally have a use.

It's a nice cross media project remedy has going.

It's the closest thing they can make to a TV show which they have proven can be done will in Max Payne 2 and Alan wake with night springs.

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This game is going to be amazing! Well hopefully.

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If this was on PS4 lemmings will going crazy saying Moviestation 4. Oh, dear, beautiful irony.

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@John_Matherson said:

If this was on PS4 lemmings will going crazy saying Moviestation 4. Oh, dear, beautiful irony.

There is gameplay in the game....

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@John_Matherson said:

If this was on PS4 lemmings will going crazy saying Moviestation 4. Oh, dear, beautiful irony.

No the irony is how you continually openly insinuate only one side tries to use double standards. Cows have been crying about this game since it was announced...

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Alan Wake was overrated and I suspect Quantum Break will be as well.

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Could be interesting

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@brucebenzing said:

@John_Matherson said:

If this was on PS4 lemmings will going crazy saying Moviestation 4. Oh, dear, beautiful irony.

No the irony is how you continually openly insinuate only one side tries to use double standards. Cows have been crying about this game since it was announced...

If you're saying that I'm acting like lems are the only hypocrite here in sys wars...wrong. They're not...all factions are hypocrites when it best suites them...BUT...Yeah lems called games like Uncharted and Beyond and TLOU movies so it's ironic this is closer to a movie than anything on the PS3.

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@ShoTTyMcNaDeS said:

Alan Wake was overrated and I suspect Quantum Break will be as well.

Your opinion. I didn't find Alan Wake overrated <---my opinion

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Video at OXM: Max Payne talking about Quantum Break. Universe will implode.

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@John_Matherson said:

@brucebenzing said:

@John_Matherson said:

If this was on PS4 lemmings will going crazy saying Moviestation 4. Oh, dear, beautiful irony.

No the irony is how you continually openly insinuate only one side tries to use double standards. Cows have been crying about this game since it was announced...

If you're saying that I'm acting like lems are the only hypocrite here in sys wars...wrong. They're not...all factions are hypocrites when it best suites them...BUT...Yeah lems called games like Uncharted and Beyond and TLOU movies so it's ironic this is closer to a movie than anything on the PS3.

I would love to see how this is closer to a movie than Heavy Rain or Beyond two souls.

Remedy= Max Payne and alan wake.

Last time I checked those had more gamplay than you claiming beyond has.,

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@John_Matherson said:

If this was on PS4 lemmings will going crazy saying Moviestation 4. Oh, dear, beautiful irony.

Except for the fact that the TV show and game are SEPARATE.

Last time I checked they don't have QTE's every 10 seconds subbing for gameplay.

there is no irony here.

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I will have to have samurai strength to avoid xbox one for this game,

I hope it comes to pc, its the only way

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Hopefully it's good.

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This could be interesting. I like the idea of developer experimenting with different ways to tell a story. Hell, what am I talking about? I'm happy they even have a story to tell at all!

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still waiting for actual game play

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I'll just leave this here. I know Lems were big fans.

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The inclusion of a live action show into a video game is an interesting one, and if it weren't for Bright Falls I would be more apprehensive...but seeing how absolutely awesome Bright Falls was/is I am actually looking forward to this.

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@Animal-Mother said:

@John_Matherson said:

@brucebenzing said:

@John_Matherson said:

If this was on PS4 lemmings will going crazy saying Moviestation 4. Oh, dear, beautiful irony.

No the irony is how you continually openly insinuate only one side tries to use double standards. Cows have been crying about this game since it was announced...

If you're saying that I'm acting like lems are the only hypocrite here in sys wars...wrong. They're not...all factions are hypocrites when it best suites them...BUT...Yeah lems called games like Uncharted and Beyond and TLOU movies so it's ironic this is closer to a movie than anything on the PS3.

I would love to see how this is closer to a movie than Heavy Rain or Beyond two souls.

Remedy= Max Payne and alan wake.

Last time I checked those had more gamplay than you claiming beyond has.,

Really? So you're trying to tell me if Heavy Rain had "Episodic TV" like QBreak does you lemmings wouldn't be bashing it? Pull the head out of your ass and if you're going to be a hypocrite and lie, don't lie to yourself. And besides, HR and Uncharted and MGS4 had shit tons of gameplay but did that stop you guys from calling them movies? No it didn't

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@John_Matherson said:

@Animal-Mother said:

I would love to see how this is closer to a movie than Heavy Rain or Beyond two souls.

Remedy= Max Payne and alan wake.

Last time I checked those had more gamplay than you claiming beyond has.,

Really? So you're trying to tell me if Heavy Rain had "Episodic TV" like QBreak does you lemmings wouldn't be bashing it? Pull the head out of your ass and if you're going to be a hypocrite and lie, don't lie to yourself. And besides, HR and Uncharted and MGS4 had shit tons of gameplay but did that stop you guys from calling them movies? No it didn't

First things first, Animal-Mother is about as impartial as they come.

Secondly, watch Bright Falls and see the quality of TV we have already experienced from Remedy and Microsoft. It is very good stuff. Haunting as well.

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@R3FURBISHED said:

@John_Matherson said:

@Animal-Mother said:

I would love to see how this is closer to a movie than Heavy Rain or Beyond two souls.

Remedy= Max Payne and alan wake.

Last time I checked those had more gamplay than you claiming beyond has.,

Really? So you're trying to tell me if Heavy Rain had "Episodic TV" like QBreak does you lemmings wouldn't be bashing it? Pull the head out of your ass and if you're going to be a hypocrite and lie, don't lie to yourself. And besides, HR and Uncharted and MGS4 had shit tons of gameplay but did that stop you guys from calling them movies? No it didn't

First things first, Animal-Mother is about as impartial as they come.

Secondly, watch Bright Falls and see the quality of TV we have already experienced from Remedy and Microsoft. It is very good stuff. Haunting as well.

OK so it is on TV...I'm not arguing the quality of remedy games or their skills...I'm saying if all this crap about the Tv episodes and if QB was on PS4 as an exclusives you lems would be all over it calling it a movie. FACT

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@John_Matherson said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

First things first, Animal-Mother is about as impartial as they come.

Secondly, watch Bright Falls and see the quality of TV we have already experienced from Remedy and Microsoft. It is very good stuff. Haunting as well.

OK so it is on TV...I'm not arguing the quality of remedy games or their skills...I'm saying if all this crap about the Tv episodes and if QB was on PS4 as an exclusives you lems would be all over it calling it a movie. FACT

Come on, guy. Read the link provided, its in there:

"Without telling too much, you'll be looking at two different sides of the coin from a story perspective," Hakkinen hinted. "In the game you'll be following the story of one theme, in the show you'll be following the story of another theme. These are meshing together to form the whole experience."

If you'd rather not view an episode immediately after unlocking it, you can view it later - or even on another device. "Obviously we are not naive to the fact that some people may not necessarily want to watch some linear media when they slot out their gaming time. So once it is unlocked, it's unlocked for you to jump in or experience whenever you then so choose.

"So it could be you catch up on it through your tablet device or your mobile device on the bus to work, and then you get home and you're ready for the next experience."

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@brucebenzing said:

@John_Matherson said:

If this was on PS4 lemmings will going crazy saying Moviestation 4. Oh, dear, beautiful irony.

No the irony is how you continually openly insinuate only one side tries to use double standards. Cows have been crying about this game since it was announced...

This ^ ^ ^ ^

They've been crying about Titanfall too. Saying how crappy it looks and how it would look and play better on the PS4 even though it's never coming to the PS4. lol!! Any games not on the PS4 cows think are crap.

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still waiting for actual game play

They showed gameplay during the VGX awards. Guess you missed it. Maybe you missed it or though it was a CGI cutscene. lol!!

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@blackace said:

@brucebenzing said:

@John_Matherson said:

If this was on PS4 lemmings will going crazy saying Moviestation 4. Oh, dear, beautiful irony.

No the irony is how you continually openly insinuate only one side tries to use double standards. Cows have been crying about this game since it was announced...

This ^ ^ ^ ^

They've been crying about Titanfall too. Saying how crappy it looks and how it would look and play better on the PS4 even though it's never coming to the PS4. lol!! Any games not on the PS4 cows think are crap.

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still waiting for actual game play

They showed gameplay during the VGX awards. Guess you missed it. Maybe you missed it or though it was a CGI cutscene. lol!!

Ok for one, whatever cow is saying all those things you can go take your personal grudge to. I'm not going to derail this thread by getting into titanfall.

Either way, all I'm saying is IF QUANTUM BREAK WAS A PS4 EXCLUSIVE LEMMINGS WILL BE GOING ON ABOUT IT BEING A MOVIE.

It's all I'm saying.

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@John_Matherson said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@John_Matherson said:

@brucebenzing said:

@John_Matherson said:

If this was on PS4 lemmings will going crazy saying Moviestation 4. Oh, dear, beautiful irony.

No the irony is how you continually openly insinuate only one side tries to use double standards. Cows have been crying about this game since it was announced...

If you're saying that I'm acting like lems are the only hypocrite here in sys wars...wrong. They're not...all factions are hypocrites when it best suites them...BUT...Yeah lems called games like Uncharted and Beyond and TLOU movies so it's ironic this is closer to a movie than anything on the PS3.

I would love to see how this is closer to a movie than Heavy Rain or Beyond two souls.

Remedy= Max Payne and alan wake.

Last time I checked those had more gamplay than you claiming beyond has.,

Really? So you're trying to tell me if Heavy Rain had "Episodic TV" like QBreak does you lemmings wouldn't be bashing it? Pull the head out of your ass and if you're going to be a hypocrite and lie, don't lie to yourself. And besides, HR and Uncharted and MGS4 had shit tons of gameplay but did that stop you guys from calling them movies? No it didn't

Lol, wut?

HR was an amazing game. But it was QTE the game ( Fun and interesting nonetheless)

Also Alan wake had episodic breaks and was just fine. We haven't seen how Quantum Break will ultimately work out, but none the less Remedy is a rock solid developer. They won't release a game with 1-2 hours of gameplay and nothing else. So stop assuming things because you're making yourself look like an ass. Also stop acting like you know me. I enjoy all games on all platforms. It's people like you who stigmatize what gamers are and how they are viewed. Sitting on a throne of assumptions and hiding behind the screen on the internet.

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@Shewgenja said:

I'll just leave this here. I know Lems were big fans.

The difference being that the episodes of Quantum Break aren't a part of the game as the cutscenes were in MGS4.

I stand by it that there is absolutely zero excuse for a 90 minute final cutscene.

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From the OXM article:

If you'd rather not view an episode immediately after unlocking it, you can view it later - or even on another device. "Obviously we are not naive to the fact that some people may not necessarily want to watch some linear media when they slot out their gaming time. So once it is unlocked, it's unlocked for you to jump in or experience whenever you then so choose.

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@John_Matherson: if it were on ps4 instead if xbox I'd just get it on ps4 instead if xbox myself.

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@R3FURBISHED said:

@John_Matherson said:

@Animal-Mother said:

I would love to see how this is closer to a movie than Heavy Rain or Beyond two souls.

Remedy= Max Payne and alan wake.

Last time I checked those had more gamplay than you claiming beyond has.,

Really? So you're trying to tell me if Heavy Rain had "Episodic TV" like QBreak does you lemmings wouldn't be bashing it? Pull the head out of your ass and if you're going to be a hypocrite and lie, don't lie to yourself. And besides, HR and Uncharted and MGS4 had shit tons of gameplay but did that stop you guys from calling them movies? No it didn't

First things first, Animal-Mother is about as impartial as they come.

Secondly, watch Bright Falls and see the quality of TV we have already experienced from Remedy and Microsoft. It is very good stuff. Haunting as well.

Thank and yes Bright Falls is amazing and Sam Lake is an incredibly talented Developer. If anyone can pull this off it's him.

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@R3FURBISHED said:

@John_Matherson said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

First things first, Animal-Mother is about as impartial as they come.

Secondly, watch Bright Falls and see the quality of TV we have already experienced from Remedy and Microsoft. It is very good stuff. Haunting as well.

OK so it is on TV...I'm not arguing the quality of remedy games or their skills...I'm saying if all this crap about the Tv episodes and if QB was on PS4 as an exclusives you lems would be all over it calling it a movie. FACT

Come on, guy. Read the link provided, its in there:

"Without telling too much, you'll be looking at two different sides of the coin from a story perspective," Hakkinen hinted. "In the game you'll be following the story of one theme, in the show you'll be following the story of another theme. These are meshing together to form the whole experience."

If you'd rather not view an episode immediately after unlocking it, you can view it later - or even on another device. "Obviously we are not naive to the fact that some people may not necessarily want to watch some linear media when they slot out their gaming time. So once it is unlocked, it's unlocked for you to jump in or experience whenever you then so choose.

"So it could be you catch up on it through your tablet device or your mobile device on the bus to work, and then you get home and you're ready for the next experience."

how is this in any way or form relevant to what I said?? I don't even know what you're talking about and neither do I care

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@John_Matherson

lol, I'm such a lemming dude

I love spending all my money on shitty PS3 games!

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#35  Edited By R3FURBISHED
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@John_Matherson said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

@John_Matherson said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

First things first, Animal-Mother is about as impartial as they come.

Secondly, watch Bright Falls and see the quality of TV we have already experienced from Remedy and Microsoft. It is very good stuff. Haunting as well.

OK so it is on TV...I'm not arguing the quality of remedy games or their skills...I'm saying if all this crap about the Tv episodes and if QB was on PS4 as an exclusives you lems would be all over it calling it a movie. FACT

Come on, guy. Read the link provided, its in there:

"Without telling too much, you'll be looking at two different sides of the coin from a story perspective," Hakkinen hinted. "In the game you'll be following the story of one theme, in the show you'll be following the story of another theme. These are meshing together to form the whole experience."

If you'd rather not view an episode immediately after unlocking it, you can view it later - or even on another device. "Obviously we are not naive to the fact that some people may not necessarily want to watch some linear media when they slot out their gaming time. So once it is unlocked, it's unlocked for you to jump in or experience whenever you then so choose.

"So it could be you catch up on it through your tablet device or your mobile device on the bus to work, and then you get home and you're ready for the next experience."

how is this in any way or form relevant to what I said?? I don't even know what you're talking about and neither do I care

Its not a TV show as its not broadcast on TV its more an expanded plot device. Watch Bright Falls, it (hopefully) will be the same general idea as those.

These are not in-game or mandatory to view - their entire purpose is to show more of the world and the story of Quantum Break. This is something completely different to (as others have brought up in this thread) the cutscenes in MGS4 and games such as Heavy Rain.

While playing Quantum Break you are playing a video game, these are 100% optional.

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@John_Matherson said:

@brucebenzing said:

@John_Matherson said:

If this was on PS4 lemmings will going crazy saying Moviestation 4. Oh, dear, beautiful irony.

No the irony is how you continually openly insinuate only one side tries to use double standards. Cows have been crying about this game since it was announced...

If you're saying that I'm acting like lems are the only hypocrite here in sys wars...wrong. They're not...all factions are hypocrites when it best suites them...BUT...Yeah lems called games like Uncharted and Beyond and TLOU movies so it's ironic this is closer to a movie than anything on the PS3.

I was unaware that Quantum Break was a scripted QTE game that can be played using only a Smartphone or Tablet.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/27/beyond-two-souls-can-be-played-using-only-a-smartphone-or-tablet/

“It connects to the console via Wi-Fi, and from this point you can play the entire game, in single-player if you want, just using your iPhone … just with one finger. It’s a very simplified interface [and] makes the game very passive and simple.”

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@R3FURBISHED said:

@John_Matherson said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

@John_Matherson said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

First things first, Animal-Mother is about as impartial as they come.

Secondly, watch Bright Falls and see the quality of TV we have already experienced from Remedy and Microsoft. It is very good stuff. Haunting as well.

OK so it is on TV...I'm not arguing the quality of remedy games or their skills...I'm saying if all this crap about the Tv episodes and if QB was on PS4 as an exclusives you lems would be all over it calling it a movie. FACT

Come on, guy. Read the link provided, its in there:

"Without telling too much, you'll be looking at two different sides of the coin from a story perspective," Hakkinen hinted. "In the game you'll be following the story of one theme, in the show you'll be following the story of another theme. These are meshing together to form the whole experience."

If you'd rather not view an episode immediately after unlocking it, you can view it later - or even on another device. "Obviously we are not naive to the fact that some people may not necessarily want to watch some linear media when they slot out their gaming time. So once it is unlocked, it's unlocked for you to jump in or experience whenever you then so choose.

"So it could be you catch up on it through your tablet device or your mobile device on the bus to work, and then you get home and you're ready for the next experience."

how is this in any way or form relevant to what I said?? I don't even know what you're talking about and neither do I care

Its not a TV show as its not broadcast on TV its more an expanded plot device. Watch Bright Falls, it (hopefully) will be the same general idea as those.

These are not in-game or mandatory to view - their entire purpose is to show more of the world and the story of Quantum Break. This is something completely different to (as others have brought up in this thread) the cutscenes in MGS4 and games such as Heavy Rain.

While playing Quantum Break you are playing a video game, these are 100% optional.

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Ok, fck the tv episodes and fck everytthing else. Looking at the game alone can you honestly tell me right now that if you were to watch this video and if this game was on the PS4, lemmings wouldn't be saying Moviestation4 right now? can you honestly tell yourself that lemmings wouldn't be saying "meh, another movie for cows to watch" can you honestly say that?

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still waiting for actual game play

I guess you missed it during the VGX awards. Maybe you thought it was CGI cutscene when it was actual gameplay. lol!!

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@StrongDeadlift said:

@John_Matherson said:

@brucebenzing said:

@John_Matherson said:

If this was on PS4 lemmings will going crazy saying Moviestation 4. Oh, dear, beautiful irony.

No the irony is how you continually openly insinuate only one side tries to use double standards. Cows have been crying about this game since it was announced...

If you're saying that I'm acting like lems are the only hypocrite here in sys wars...wrong. They're not...all factions are hypocrites when it best suites them...BUT...Yeah lems called games like Uncharted and Beyond and TLOU movies so it's ironic this is closer to a movie than anything on the PS3.

I was unaware that Quantum Break was a scripted QTE game that can be played using only a Smartphone or Tablet.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/27/beyond-two-souls-can-be-played-using-only-a-smartphone-or-tablet/

“It connects to the console via Wi-Fi, and from this point you can play the entire game, in single-player if you want, just using your iPhone … just with one finger. It’s a very simplified interface [and] makes the game very passive and simple.”

Oh I was unaware that Beyond 2 souls, Uncharted 2, MGS4, Heavy Rain, Heavenly Sword, The Last of Us, God of War, and many other PS3 games that lemmings called Movies were all scripted QTE games that can be played using only a smartphone or tablet...Your point?

If the games were scripted it's because that's wtf the director and game creator wanted to make. So judge the game based on what it wants to do, what it aims to do and how it does it. But this didn't stop lems from calling the games movies and saying "meh, I'll just watch it on youtube." SO, the question I keep asking is, if this was on PS4 can you honestly tell me lemmings wouldn't be saying it? Seems like a pretty direct question to me. Don't get why people keep dancing in circles.

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Someone is sooooo on the verge of a complete and total meltdown. I can just feel it.........

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#41  Edited By Animal-Mother
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@John_Matherson said:

@StrongDeadlift said:

@John_Matherson said:

@brucebenzing said:

@John_Matherson said:

If this was on PS4 lemmings will going crazy saying Moviestation 4. Oh, dear, beautiful irony.

No the irony is how you continually openly insinuate only one side tries to use double standards. Cows have been crying about this game since it was announced...

If you're saying that I'm acting like lems are the only hypocrite here in sys wars...wrong. They're not...all factions are hypocrites when it best suites them...BUT...Yeah lems called games like Uncharted and Beyond and TLOU movies so it's ironic this is closer to a movie than anything on the PS3.

I was unaware that Quantum Break was a scripted QTE game that can be played using only a Smartphone or Tablet.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/27/beyond-two-souls-can-be-played-using-only-a-smartphone-or-tablet/

“It connects to the console via Wi-Fi, and from this point you can play the entire game, in single-player if you want, just using your iPhone … just with one finger. It’s a very simplified interface [and] makes the game very passive and simple.”

Oh I was unaware that Beyond 2 souls, Uncharted 2, MGS4, Heavy Rain, Heavenly Sword, The Last of Us, God of War, and many other PS3 games that lemmings called Movies were all scripted QTE games that can be played using only a smartphone or tablet...Your point?

If the games were scripted it's because that's wtf the director and game creator wanted to make. So judge the game based on what it wants to do, what it aims to do and how it does it. But this didn't stop lems from calling the games movies and saying "meh, I'll just watch it on youtube." SO, the question I keep asking is, if this was on PS4 can you honestly tell me lemmings wouldn't be saying it? Seems like a pretty direct question to me. Don't get why people keep dancing in circles.

Nobody has ever said TLOU, Heavenly Sword or MGS4 are QTE based games.

Linear and scripted maybe. But nobody has called them QTE games.

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#42  Edited By R3FURBISHED
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@John_Matherson said:

Ok, fck the tv episodes and fck everytthing else. Looking at the game alone can you honestly tell me right now that if you were to watch this video and if this game was on the PS4, lemmings wouldn't be saying Moviestation4 right now? can you honestly tell yourself that lemmings wouldn't be saying "meh, another movie for cows to watch" can you honestly say that?

Quantum Break is a combination of Alan Wake and Max Payne. Where in that description do you think movie, is the completely optional live-action show what makes this game a movie?

Quantum Break isn't a movie. And the reason games like MGS4 were labeled as movies is because the cutscenes are 10-90 minutes long and Beyond and Heavy Rain are largely scripted events where gameplay is secondary to the story playing out before you - there is very little player input.

While QB will features these "lengthy TV shows" that is not what the game is. These shows are only there to further expand the story.
The idea in Quantum Break is to alternate between episodes of the game and the TV show. "The game and the show are designed to be built as one experience, to be experienced as one package. So you play an episode of the game, then you can unlock an episode of the show, play another episode of the game, and unlock another episode of the show, and so on.

They are a part of the game but are not what the game is - and they are optional to watch.

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@John_Matherson said:

Ok, fck the tv episodes and fck everytthing else. Looking at the game alone can you honestly tell me right now that if you were to watch this video and if this game was on the PS4, lemmings wouldn't be saying Moviestation4 right now? can you honestly tell yourself that lemmings wouldn't be saying "meh, another movie for cows to watch" can you honestly say that?

Can you honestly tell yourself Cows wouldn't compare a 2 hour downloadable game on PSN against a longer retail release game based on Metacritic score alone after spending years claiming you can't do that with XBLA games because they are too short and aren't retail released? Oh wait they already do.

Your argument is baseless and has no merit. If this game were on PS4, Cows would hype it like the 2nd coming, then hype it as a 7 for official hype purposes.

Before you say I'm hyping it, I've already stated I'm happy that watching the FMV is an option as opposed to forcefeeding it on everyone else. Gameplay also shows gaming elements along with 'skips' in time.

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@R3FURBISHED said:

@John_Matherson said:

Ok, fck the tv episodes and fck everytthing else. Looking at the game alone can you honestly tell me right now that if you were to watch this video and if this game was on the PS4, lemmings wouldn't be saying Moviestation4 right now? can you honestly tell yourself that lemmings wouldn't be saying "meh, another movie for cows to watch" can you honestly say that?

Quantum Break is a combination of Alan Wake and Max Payne. Where in that description do you think movie, is the completely optional live-action show what makes this game a movie?

Quantum Break isn't a movie. And the reason games like MGS4 were labeled as movies is because the cutscenes are 10-90 minutes long and Beyond and Heavy Rain are largely scripted events where gameplay is secondary to the story playing out before you - there is very little player input.

While QB will features these "lengthy TV shows" that is not what the game is. These shows are only there to further expand the story.

The idea in Quantum Break is to alternate between episodes of the game and the TV show. "The game and the show are designed to be built as one experience, to be experienced as one package. So you play an episode of the game, then you can unlock an episode of the show, play another episode of the game, and unlock another episode of the show, and so on.

They are a part of the game but are not what the game is - and they are optional to watch.

I saw the actual gameplay, and like blackace said, the actual gameplay looks like a CGI scene. Yes, games like HR are more story focused but they also have gameplay and a lot of it, but that didn't stop lems from calling them movies.

Oh and the last of us, Uncharted have been called movies plenty of times. To deny this is idiotic. Lemmings do it all the time which is why it's funny when games like Ryse and QB are going down the more "cinematic experience" route. Google QB and you'll see it being described as a cinematic experience. I made a thread about the topic too, which lemmings spent 4 pages deflecting and avoiding the OP even though the OP contained quotes from these games' official websites describing them as cinematic experiences. Here's the thread THREAD

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@John_Matherson said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

@John_Matherson said:

Ok, fck the tv episodes and fck everytthing else. Looking at the game alone can you honestly tell me right now that if you were to watch this video and if this game was on the PS4, lemmings wouldn't be saying Moviestation4 right now? can you honestly tell yourself that lemmings wouldn't be saying "meh, another movie for cows to watch" can you honestly say that?

Quantum Break is a combination of Alan Wake and Max Payne. Where in that description do you think movie, is the completely optional live-action show what makes this game a movie?

Quantum Break isn't a movie. And the reason games like MGS4 were labeled as movies is because the cutscenes are 10-90 minutes long and Beyond and Heavy Rain are largely scripted events where gameplay is secondary to the story playing out before you - there is very little player input.

While QB will features these "lengthy TV shows" that is not what the game is. These shows are only there to further expand the story.

The idea in Quantum Break is to alternate between episodes of the game and the TV show. "The game and the show are designed to be built as one experience, to be experienced as one package. So you play an episode of the game, then you can unlock an episode of the show, play another episode of the game, and unlock another episode of the show, and so on.

They are a part of the game but are not what the game is - and they are optional to watch.

I saw the actual gameplay, and like blackace said, the actual gameplay looks like a CGI scene. Yes, games like HR are more story focused but they also have gameplay and a lot of it, but that didn't stop lems from calling them movies.

Oh and the last of us, Uncharted have been called movies plenty of times. To deny this is idiotic. Lemmings do it all the time which is why it's funny when games like Ryse and QB are going down the more "cinematic experience" route. Google QB and you'll see it being described as a cinematic experience. I made a thread about the topic too, which lemmings spent 4 pages deflecting and avoiding the OP even though the OP contained quotes from these games' official websites describing them as cinematic experiences. Here's the thread THREAD

Ryse is as much a movie as God of War - as they are damn near the exact same experienced (albeit executed very differently).
I also wouldn't judge a game based off of 1-4 second snippets of gameplay and one cutscene.

Stop taking things people say so seriously, and just accept that some people just jump to conclusions based on zero facts and information whatsoever.

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Uncharted is not a movie. Heavy Rain & Beyond 2 Souls are more like a movie. God of War? Not a movie. Ryse isn't a movie either even though it does have a lot of cinematic cut scenes. Games that are called movies are games that have very little interactive by the gamer. Pushing one or two buttons to move the story along. They had lots of those type of games on Sega Saturn with Night Trap & Time Gal. Those games were hilarious.

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Lulz, stop snivelling and crying, Johnny.

It's Remedy so I'm sold on this game. I'm undecided on buying 2 consoles this gen so I gotta admit I wish it was coming to PS4.

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@blackace said:

Uncharted is not a movie. Heavy Rain & Beyond 2 Souls are more like a movie. God of War? Not a movie. Ryse isn't a movie either even though it does have a lot of cinematic cut scenes. Games that are called movies are games that have very little interactive by the gamer. Pushing one or two buttons to move the story along. They had lots of those type of games on Sega Saturn with Night Trap & Time Gal. Those games were hilarious.

Night Trap was on Sega CD for the Genesis, along with Sewer Shark....I can never forget wasting money on that and thos wretched .You Make the Video' games...

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@Shewgenja said:

I'll just leave this here. I know Lems were big fans.

The problem isn't that the game had too many cut scenes. The problem is the story and writing in the MGS series is so god awful that it's hard to sit through ours of cut scenes and dialogue.

If the plot and dialogue were properly written and paced well it would of been a much more enjoyable experience.

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@blackace:

FIGURED SINCE THE OTHER THREAD GOT LOCKED I'D RESPOND TO YOUR BULLSHIT

@blackace said:
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@blackace said:
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who did they poll?.....everyone on the internet is a stealth troll.

They polls gamers on Gamespot and GameFaq. lol!! The title is very misleading as both PS4 and XB1 gamers were both happy with their purchases. Oc course it's going to be a little high for PS4 as GS = Cows. lol!! I'm sure they were all giving 10's to their precious PS4. lol!!

GS=Cowspot when good things are happening for cows. So shut up with the damage control.

Just because SHeep and Lems vanish and go into hiding when their consoles are in a drought doesn't mean it's cowspot. It's not that cows are here too much; it's just that lems and sheep tend to hide when they know things aren't going good.

No you STFU!! GS = Cowspot when GOOD or BAD things are happening for XB1. I don't think lems and sheep are hiding anywhere. They are just going to other sites that are more neutral and have less trolling Cow kiddies talking out of their @$$es. There's nothing really to damage control here as the article says gamers who purchased both systems are happy with their purchased. Not sure how there is any fail in that. It's just easy to understand why the PS4 % is higher on this site. It's pretty obvious.

really? Wait, wtf does the article have to do with me? I don't give a shit about it at all. it's obviously stupid and the TC is also an idiot for the misleading title. I decided to help by posting the article but haven't even addressed it yet. ANd really? Cows haven't increased of fcking decreased. Lems all vanished because they couldn't face the damages MS did throughout this year, and cows didn't let them rest and rubbed it in their faces constantly. Lemming can press the fckiing create new thread button as much as cows can...they just don't have a fcking reason. How many lemmings appeared when TLOU flopped? Lems are cowards they know when to appear and when to hide. That's it. It's not fcking cowspot...if it is it's definitely not cows' fault. If cows are making titan fall sucks thread, you have just as much rights to make "Second Son looks like shit" thread. Nothing's stopping you. System wars is competitive. people scramble the web for the latest news they can use against other factions. So, since MS kept fcking up and giving nothing but bad news and attracting bad press, you're darn fucking right cows are going to post it. How much shit did we get in the early PS3 days? Why the **** are you guys now suddenly whinning like you never had your run or like you never played the Sys Wars game. **** off. At least I'm not hypocritical enough to deny when I'm being a fanboy or...an hypocrite.

Who are "you guys". lol!! Cows are just an embarrassment on SW. I understand they want to try and get back at Microsoft because the XBox 360 (and Wii) handed the PS3 a royal spanking last gen, but Cows are like wild craze rabid dogs that no longer even praise their own system or games half the time. They spend more time in Microsoft XB1 threads then they do in their own Sony PS4 threads. Most of the nonsense they are saying it complete BS or made up stories just to bash the competition. I don't remember lems, sheep or hermit ever making up so much garbage to try and trounce their competition. Then Cows have a nerve to ask where are the Sheep & Lems. They're usually playing their games or on more mature forums will actual adults that no how to debate in a reasonable manner and not act like childish kids from the Stone Age. Sure, I've come down to Cows childish levels on a few occasion to make my points, but I don't stay there. I rarely make any thread and when I do it's usually not a thread bashing something. I actually like Infamous SS and have been praising it for awhile. Surprising, there have been several cows who don't seem to like it. I still have it preordered along with The Order 1886.

Yeah you're listing all these accusations for cows and yet it seems like you're doing the exact same thing right now. Oh so now they're playign games and in more mature forums? Really? Because the last time I checked it seems all the MS bashing is all over the web and not just here. And then for one, you make statements like "because the XBox 360 (and Wii) handed the PS3 a royal spanking last gen" and in the same post called cows "wild crazy rabid"? How do you sound? What stories have cows made up? Everything posted in sys wars has links and quotes and everyone with half a brain knows their posts are insubstantial without links or proof. So you're making it up when you saw cows make up news...And wait...with the Xbox 360 not having any decent exclusive since Halo 4 and with the WiiU game drought of the past few years...what fucking game are lems and sheep playing? PS3 has had pretty decent exclusives both this year and the last so if anyone should not be posting on sys wars because they're too busy playing games it's cows...So try again. When the 360 first came out and was getting attention here and there and games here and there...why weren't lems too busy playing those games instead of all the PS3 has no games thread or PS3 is DOA thread?

It stands. Lems hide because they're cowards. They know when to sink and when to surface. It's nothing to do with Cows. I love how you're blaming cows for the fact that lems are hiding because MS kept fuckign them over...Instead of blaming MS.

Where's the idiot Lemming that said "DRM and Monitoring is the future of gaming because used games stop developers from making money"? It was either Mems or RR360D or another lembot that said it....That's just another example of lemmings doing anything but blaming MS. It's MS' fault lems are hiding not Cows.

You want to make a thread, click the fucking button and make a thread. If I see news about MS screwing lems over, I will post it on System Wars so fast it'll make google chrome crash. That's how system wars work.

And how many fcking researched and reasonable, and objective threads have I made? How many times have I created open discussions for people to talk about here that are different from the usual bashing ones.

I made the "Will lems ever get an Uncharted 2" and the "PS3 wiped the floor clean with exclusives last gen" threads...but aside from this most of my threads are usually objective and are news or discussion threads...So...try again. Lemmings are here. If Sony dropped the ball and screwed up you'll see how many lemmings are really here.