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#51 TheSystemLord1
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.ShaneBeck

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,



When has there ever been a bad (main series) Final Fantasy game?:?

Final Fantasy 12 was pretty awful.

I remember nothing from it...nothing.

Except that the main character's name was Vaan...

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#52 blitzkid1
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.NuclearFreedom

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,

what was a bad title? dont give those spin off crap cause we all know spin off sucks

Well why do you have versus 13 in your sig ?

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#53 ShaneBeck
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[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.Chaos_HL21

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,



When has there ever been a bad (main series) Final Fantasy game?:?

To me Final Fantasy XII felt alittle bit like a let down (still AAA, but not as amazing as the other Final Fantasy). Also 13 is an unlucky number :P



So AAA is bad now? :P

I think my point has been proven.
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.NuclearFreedom

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,

what was a bad title? dont give those spin off crap cause we all know spin off sucks

every game after 6

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#55 NuclearFreedom
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[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.TheSystemLord1

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,


there you go, you remember something lol
When has there ever been a bad (main series) Final Fantasy game?:?

Final Fantasy 12 was pretty awful.

I remember nothing from it...nothing.

Except that the main character's name was Vaan...

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#56 ANumber1
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.NuclearFreedom

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,

what was a bad title? dont give those spin off crap cause we all know spin off sucks

II and V are recognized as weak links in the series. XII has it's fair share of detractors (I thought it was OK. Not great. Not terrible. OK).

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#57 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="ShaneBeck"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]ShaneBeck



When has there ever been a bad (main series) Final Fantasy game?:?

To me Final Fantasy XII felt alittle bit like a let down (still AAA, but not as amazing as the other Final Fantasy). Also 13 is an unlucky number :P



So AAA is bad now? :P

I think my point has been proven.

PD zero :P Like many want to say some games do not deserve the AAA
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#58 Dark_Knight6
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.NuclearFreedom

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,

what was a bad title? dont give those spin off crap cause we all know spin off sucks

Off the top of my head, Final Fantasy X-2 was overall, crap and Final Fantasy XII was so lacking in good, interesting characters and a fantastic story.

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#59 ShaneBeck
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PD zero :PEltroz


In my opinion, when the game was first released and their wasn't alot to compare it to, it had the potential to be AAA. It was exciting and fun. It was the beginning of not only a great sequel, but also a brand new system.
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#60 ShaneBeck
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[QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.Dark_Knight6

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,

what was a bad title? dont give those spin off crap cause we all know spin off sucks

Off the top of my head, Final Fantasy X-2 was overall, crap and Final Fantasy XII was so lacking in good, interesting characters and a fantastic story.



X2 was not the main series and what you said about XII is purely opinion.
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="ShaneBeck"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.ShaneBeck

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,



When has there ever been a bad (main series) Final Fantasy game?:?

To me Final Fantasy XII felt alittle bit like a let down (still AAA, but not as amazing as the other Final Fantasy). Also 13 is an unlucky number :P



So AAA is bad now? :P

I think my point has been proven.

I said it was a let down, not bad. But it might be a sign of Final Fantasy weakening. Also to me I found Tales of Symphonia to be a better RPG than FFX

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#62 hayato_
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cause the majority loved final fantasy 12 right ?

blitzkid1

The majority did:?

Anyway. I think what you meant to say was that this game will be the X box 360's JRPG Console Graphics king. I

'll agree to that. Can't wait till this one. Im buying my 360 with one when they put the new chips in.

P.S. 09' Final Fantasy XIII/ Star Ocean: The Last Hope combo FTW

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#63 NuclearFreedom
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[QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.blitzkid1

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,

what was a bad title? dont give those spin off crap cause we all know spin off sucks

Well why do you have versus 13 in your sig ?

because i do lol

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#64 mr_mozilla
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It looks really messy to me. Maybe the graphics are good technically(or not), but at least the art style isn't appealing to me.
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#65 Dark_Knight6
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what you said about XII is purely opinion.ShaneBeck

So was this:


I'm not a cow. It should just be common knowledge that FFXIII is going to be a better looking and better playing game that SO4. It's going to be the MGS4 of RPGs. Don't get me wrong, I'm going to play SO4 and love it (it's a great series) but quite frankly, it just doesn't stack up against FFXIII. You should be comparing SO4 to something like... White Knight Story.ShaneBeck

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#66 Cyberfairy
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The game wont look like this. Remember infinite undiscovery? Yeah, excactly.

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#67 TREAL_Since
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Very nice :D. Graphics king, no.
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#68 Lionheart08
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Meh, I don't see a JRPG taking Graphics Kings.
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#69 Cyberfairy
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[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]

what you said about XII is purely opinion.Dark_Knight6

So was this:


I'm not a cow. It should just be common knowledge that FFXIII is going to be a better looking and better playing game that SO4. It's going to be the MGS4 of RPGs. Don't get me wrong, I'm going to play SO4 and love it (it's a great series) but quite frankly, it just doesn't stack up against FFXIII. You should be comparing SO4 to something like... White Knight Story.ShaneBeck

actually, that isn't an opinion; that's a statement

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#70 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.blitzkid1

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,

what was a bad title? dont give those spin off crap cause we all know spin off sucks

Well why do you have versus 13 in your sig ?

The difference with FFV 13 is it's developed by the Kingdom Hearts team. A recipe for win if you ask me.
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#71 HuusAsking
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http://www.tri-ace.co.jp/product/index.html

If you can read japanese it says this shot is realtime.

blitzkid1
No offense to the OP, but it's a tad hard to believe at present, and we've seen all sorts of "fish tales" of late. Perhaps with an HD videoclip of actual gameplay some of us skeptics would be better inclined.
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#72 Dark_Knight6
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]

what you said about XII is purely opinion.Cyberfairy

So was this:


I'm not a cow. It should just be common knowledge that FFXIII is going to be a better looking and better playing game that SO4. It's going to be the MGS4 of RPGs. Don't get me wrong, I'm going to play SO4 and love it (it's a great series) but quite frankly, it just doesn't stack up against FFXIII. You should be comparing SO4 to something like... White Knight Story.ShaneBeck

actually, that isn't an opinion; that's a statement

You do know statements can be opionated.

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#73 snorlaxmaster
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Okay..........waiting for the graphics king.......
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#74 bionicle_lover
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the only rpg's ive ever really liked were pokemon (is that even rpg :P?), diablo and tales of symphonia. the others ive found ok but i just couldnt get into them... especially turned base so im surprised i liked pokemon but i guess its the fact that there were so many of them to choose from. i had star ocean till the end of time and i just didnt like it that much. maybe a little but i sold it after i played like 15 hours.
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the only rpg's ive ever really liked were pokemon (is that even rpg :P?), diablo and tales of symphonia. the others ive found ok but i just couldnt get into them... especially turned base so im surprised i liked pokemon but i guess its the fact that there were so many of them to choose from. i had star ocean till the end of time and i just didnt like it that much. maybe a little but i sold it after i played like 15 hours.bionicle_lover

SO3 was a rpg you shouldnt have started after pokemon

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I've been a long time supporter of Star Ocean, but Till the End of Time left a bad taste in my mouth. It didn't have that same epic pacing as Second Story. I hope this game returns to that same kind of epic feel of the second.
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#77 Syn_Valence
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final fantasy 13 is going to crush this little title to pieces,if it released along the same time frame that is, and too bad SO4 it isnt going too sell well. Seems that 360 jrpgs dont sell very well at all......maybe its cause NO ONE BUYS A 360 TO PLAY JRPGS, its either shooters, or wrpg that has shooting elements in it. lets hope Fable 2 changes that, but alas even fable 2 has guns in it :?
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#78 MadExponent
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Will this use turn based combat or that junk that FFXII used?
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#79 Vandalvideo
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Will this use turn based combat or that junk that FFXII used?MadExponent
Have you never playede a Star Ocean game? It is quasi-twitch based.
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[QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.blitzkid1

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,

what was a bad title? dont give those spin off crap cause we all know spin off sucks

Well why do you have versus 13 in your sig ?

What is versus 13 a spinoff of?

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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]Will this use turn based combat or that junk that FFXII used?Vandalvideo
Have you never playede a Star Ocean game? It is quasi-twitch based.

I was a Xenosaga/Final Fantasy guy.

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[QUOTE="blitzkid1"][QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.Luxen90

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,

what was a bad title? dont give those spin off crap cause we all know spin off sucks

Well why do you have versus 13 in your sig ?

What is versus 13 a spinoff of?

I dont know final fantasy 13.

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#83 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]Will this use turn based combat or that junk that FFXII used?MadExponent

Have you never playede a Star Ocean game? It is quasi-twitch based.

I was a Xenosaga/Final Fantasy guy.

Well if I had to compare it I would compare it to Mass Effect. It is real time combat with minor twitch based functions like blocking and dodging, you can access "hotbar" skills like in diablo, and you can freeze the combat to issue general orders to your teamates.
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Looks amazing. Can't wait.

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[QUOTE="Luxen90"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"][QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]Looks good, but you do know that FFXIII will destroy it right? It's Square's flagship title.blitzkid1

Final Fantasy games will always sell amazingly, no matter how bad,

what was a bad title? dont give those spin off crap cause we all know spin off sucks

Well why do you have versus 13 in your sig ?

What is versus 13 a spinoff of?

I dont know final fantasy 13.

Sorry but it's not a spinoff its own game.

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#86 hayato_
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What is versus 13 a spinoff of?

Luxen90

Nothing. Think of it as one part of Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy XIII ("New Tale of the Crystal" is what it translates to).

Edit: There you go. Its from wikipedia though

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#87 mattzz10
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That screen looks good, but it seems TOO good, like its missing something.
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Graphics king? No, the jaggies on that path make the graphics look broke and the colours are horrible.
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Tell me when 360 owners actually appreciate the JRPGS they are getting.

Army of two nearly oustold Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, and Eternal Sonata combined.

Congratulations.

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I remember when the cows were listing it as a great PS3 exclsuvie.

Chaos_HL21

yup, and now it's not even announced for the PS3 at all, so it becomes teh $#!+. :lol:

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Looks good but will the story be good is it going to throw another crappy plot twist just like SO3?
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#92 leadernator
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Prepare to be dissappointed when the game actually comes out.

Hyping SO4 = digging your own grave.

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#93 Andrew_Xavier
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I'm not into graphics normally, but, that's a very good looking shot.
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Lemmings and there petty JRPG's :lol:therealmcc0y

how ironic

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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

I remember when the cows were listing it as a great PS3 exclsuvie.

TheKonspiracy

yup, and now it's not even announced for the PS3 at all, so it becomes teh $#!+. :lol:

A lot of Ps3 only owners were bummed when this was announced, but the FFXIII > SO argument has always and will always be there.

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#96 Andrew_Xavier
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Prepare to be dissappointed when the game actually comes out.

Hyping SO4 = digging your own grave.

leadernator

How so? SO3 is one of my top 5 of all time, SO2 was a fantastic game, I haven't played SO1 because I don't have a super famicon, but, 2 and 3 were brilliant, I don't see how that's "digging your own grave."

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#97 TheKonspiracy
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[QUOTE="TheKonspiracy"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

I remember when the cows were listing it as a great PS3 exclsuvie.

Chutebox

yup, and now it's not even announced for the PS3 at all, so it becomes teh $#!+. :lol:

A lot of Ps3 only owners were bummed when this was announced, but the FFXIII > SO argument has always and will always be there.

fanboys miss out, luckily i own ps3 and have access to a 360, so i'll be playing both.

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#98 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="TheKonspiracy"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

I remember when the cows were listing it as a great PS3 exclsuvie.

TheKonspiracy

yup, and now it's not even announced for the PS3 at all, so it becomes teh $#!+. :lol:

A lot of Ps3 only owners were bummed when this was announced, but the FFXIII > SO argument has always and will always be there.

fanboys miss out, luckily i own ps3 and have access to a 360, so i'll be playing both.

Pretty much. Sucks for people who don't have both.

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#99 Chaos_HL21
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Tell me when 360 owners actually appreciate the JRPGS they are getting.

Army of two nearly oustold Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, and Eternal Sonata combined.

Congratulations.

Koalakommander

JRPGs without the name Final Fanstasy, Dragon Quest and Star Ocean don't really sell that well.

Suikoden 3 sold around 378,000 copies in Japan and 190,000 in the US. Guess the PS2 owners don't apperciate the JRPGS they are getting

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#100 blitzkid1
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[QUOTE="Luxen90"]

What is versus 13 a spinoff of?

hayato_

Nothing. Think of it as one part of Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy XIII ("New Tale of the Crystal" is what it translates to).

Edit: There you go. Its from wikipedia though

So its a spinoff ?