New study shows 360s actually fail 23.7% of the time.

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-13078-Rochester-Xbox-360-Examiner~y2009m9d2-Study-shows-360-actually-fails-237-percent-of-the-time

Not as high as was previously thought. But still highest of all the 3 consoles.

so 4 years later they got it to a little bit under one third of consoles failing....great job microsoft. not.

so 4 years later they got it to a little bit under one third of consoles failing....great job microsoft. not.

Uptown

Sorry but Microsoft have no excuse for their failure rate but that is just my opinon.:(

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so 4 years later they got it to a little bit under one third of consoles failing....great job microsoft. not.

Jandurin

While I could have said a quarter I didnt. You're right. Regardless 10% less than a third isnt that much when you have over 30 million units out there...thats only a 3 million unit discrepancy from what I said.

thats closer to the truth then this.sexxxyboy

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so 4 years later they got it to a little bit under one third of consoles failing....great job microsoft. not.

Uptown

While I could have said a quarter I didnt. You're right. Regardless 10% less than a third isnt that much when you have over 30 million units out there...thats only a 3 million unit discrepancy from what I said.

So this number is based on what exactly, I mean aside from hurt feelings at the last "360 fail survey"?

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] :? It's under 1/4, almost to 1/5 That's more than a LITTLE under 1/3Jandurin

While I could have said a quarter I didnt. You're right. Regardless 10% less than a third isnt that much when you have over 30 million units out there...thats only a 3 million unit discrepancy from what I said.

How can you think 3 million units improvement in faulty hardware is alot when theyre heading towards 40 million units

whatever makes you feel better about the fact that atleast 15 million 360's sold to date have failed. I cant believe people defend Microsoft's design issues. If this was a baby crib, a car, a refrigerator or anything of the sort people would return it and buy some other brand. Fanboy loyalty is amazing in the video game world.

whatever makes you feel better about the fact that atleast 15 million 360's sold to date have failed. I cant believe people defend Microsoft's design issues. If this was a baby crib, a car, a refrigerator or anything of the sort people would return it and buy some other brand. Fanboy loyalty is amazing in the video game world.

Uptown

you can just google itRichymisiak

Well, its lower than the 33% of first years and FAR lower than the 45% cows have been claiming all the time.

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whatever makes you feel better about the fact that atleast 15 million 360's sold to date have failed. I cant believe people defend Microsoft's design issues. If this was a baby crib, a car, a refrigerator or anything of the sort people would return it and buy some other brand. Fanboy loyalty is amazing in the video game world.

Jandurin

thats what every percentage has been until this study popped up in this thread.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Uptown"]

whatever makes you feel better about the fact that atleast 15 million 360's sold to date have failed. I cant believe people defend Microsoft's design issues. If this was a baby crib, a car, a refrigerator or anything of the sort people would return it and buy some other brand. Fanboy loyalty is amazing in the video game world.

Uptown

thats what every percentage has been until this study popped up in this thread.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Uptown"]

whatever makes you feel better about the fact that atleast 15 million 360's sold to date have failed. I cant believe people defend Microsoft's design issues. If this was a baby crib, a car, a refrigerator or anything of the sort people would return it and buy some other brand. Fanboy loyalty is amazing in the video game world.

Uptown

thats what every percentage has been until this study popped up in this thread.

Well, its lower than the 33% of first years and FAR lower than the 45% cows have been claiming all the time.

PAL360

Sorry but people can spin this all they want(and they will)

But 4 years on, almost 1 in every 4 360s fail.Thats indefensible. :?

whatever makes you feel better about the fact that atleast 15 million 360's sold to date have failed. I cant believe people defend Microsoft's design issues. If this was a baby crib, a car, a refrigerator or anything of the sort people would return it and buy some other brand. Fanboy loyalty is amazing in the video game world.

Uptown

But the Xbox 360 isn't any of those things. It's an entertainment machine. If it breaks down it is not going to affect your baby's welfare or your own life. It is going to keep you from playing video games on it for a couple of weeks. I agree that the problem shouldn't be there to begin with but it's not a big deal and certainly not the end of the world like some make it out to be.

microsoft already didnt deny 54%. thats closer to the truth then this.sexxxyboy

so 4 years later they got it to a little bit under one third of consoles failing....great job microsoft. not.

Uptown

this study was for the first two years of all consoles linky

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Well, its lower than the 33% of first years and FAR lower than the 45% cows have been claiming all the time.

stvee101

Sorry but people can spin this all they want(and they will)

But 4 years on, almost 1 in every 4 360s fail.Thats indefensible. :?

It is still too high.

There's a caveat: SquareTrade says it believes Microsoft's warranty policy (an excellent, commendably responsible policy, in my opinion) "may result in an underreporting of failures by Xbox 360 owners to SquareTrade, relative to the other consoles." Because the RROD problem is so widely known to be covered by Microsoft's warranty, we believe that more customers bypass SquareTrade and reported failures directly to the Microsoft. In a survey of SquareTrade customers with Xbox 360s conducted by email, SquareTrade found that over half of our customers who experienced a RROD error reported their problem directly to Microsoft without contacting SquareTrade. Email survey respondents tend to be a self-selecting group, so the data should be used directionally rather than definitively, particularly because we did not survey PS3 and Wii owners with the same question. With that caveat in mind, applying the survey data to the analysis shows that the Xbox 360 failure rate could be as high as 35%.

Good thing you guys read the whole article. Again...my 1/3 looks good now doesnt it Jandurin ;) Topic closed.

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Well, its lower than the 33% of first years and FAR lower than the 45% cows have been claiming all the time.

stvee101

Sorry but people can spin this all they want(and they will)

But 4 years on, almost 1 in every 4 360s fail.Thats indefensible. :?

Yeah, i agree its still very bad. Thats the only thing i hate about the 360 :?

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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Well, its lower than the 33% of first years and FAR lower than the 45% cows have been claiming all the time.

kolkov01

Sorry but people can spin this all they want(and they will)

But 4 years on, almost 1 in every 4 360s fail.Thats indefensible. :?

Fair enough.

But it also says "RROD appears to (finally) be in decline in 2009".

Yep it only took them 4 years(and counting) to remedy this fundamental design defect in their consoles..Nice job MS.

That's nearly 8 million failed 360's.Floppy_Jim

That's nearly 8 million failed 360's.Floppy_Jim

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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Well, its lower than the 33% of first years and FAR lower than the 45% cows have been claiming all the time.

PAL360

Sorry but people can spin this all they want(and they will)

But 4 years on, almost 1 in every 4 360s fail.Thats indefensible. :?

Yeah, i agree its still very bad. Thats the only thing i hate about the 360 :?

RROD was one of the main reasons I decided against buying a 360 and opting for a gaming PC.

I mean its a superb console imo,still has the best software library of any console this gen and gets superior multiplats 90% of the time.

But yeah,RROD was a real deal-breaker for me.

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="stvee101"]

Sorry but people can spin this all they want(and they will)

But 4 years on, almost 1 in every 4 360s fail.Thats indefensible. :?

stvee101

Fair enough.

But it also says "RROD appears to (finally) be in decline in 2009".

Yep it only took them 4 years(and counting) to remedy this fundamental design defect in their consoles..Nice job MS.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]That's nearly 8 million failed 360's.mitu123

That's nothing to brag about, but at least it's an improvement. I still refuse to buy a 360 because of Microsoft's business practices though.

Scroll up to the piece of the article I pasted guys. It tells the rest of the story here and that this 23.7% failure rate number they have is admittedly bogus

Scroll up to the piece of the article I pasted guys. It tells the rest of the story here and that this 23.7% failure rate number they have is admittedly bogus

Uptown

More than 10% is still WAY to high.

I knew cows in this thread response would be "Screw that! I'm gonna believe GI 5000 responders over a study done by the largest independent warranty provider in the world. System Wars...if this is any indication of the world then we are all in trouble.

Scroll up to the piece of the article I pasted guys. It tells the rest of the story here and that this 23.7% failure rate number they have is admittedly bogus

Uptown

The plot thickens. :P

Either way,the failure rate is totally unacceptable imo.

Even hardcore lems have to agree with me on that one.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]That's nearly 8 million failed 360's.Floppy_Jim

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]That's nearly 8 million failed 360's.Floppy_Jim

Regardless of what any study says, the bottom line is the 360 failure rate is horrible, we all know it.

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-13078-Rochester-Xbox-360-Examiner~y2009m9d2-Study-shows-360-actually-fails-237-percent-of-the-time

Not as high as was previously thought. But still highest of all the 3 consoles.

clubsammich91

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-13078-Rochester-Xbox-360-Examiner~y2009m9d2-Study-shows-360-actually-fails-237-percent-of-the-time

Not as high as was previously thought. But still highest of all the 3 consoles.

clubsammich91

I knew cows in this thread response would be "Screw that! I'm gonna believe GI 5000 responders over a study done by the largest independent warranty provider in the world. System Wars...if this is any indication of the world then we are all in trouble.Shattered007

Nah it was more to do with MS knowingly releasing a console with a fundamental design defect ,and the widespread failure of said console as a result that swayed it for me. ;)

EDIT- I see you've edited your post and are now not directly responding to me.