New Super Mario Galaxy 2 mini-clips inside...the music, MY GOD THE MUSIC!!!!

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#51 Thunderdrone
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I don't know what you are prattling on about, but I discredit the praise of any game, regardless if I like it or not. The fact of the matter is, reviews are opinions, not facts, and cannot be used to "prove" that such-and-such game is "better" than another or "best" overall. Claiming that "SMG is the greatest game ever, because it is the most highly critically praised game" is not much of an argument, or really, any discussion at all.

We (I at least) come here for discussion, not the espousal of opinions as facts. You yourself are playing up SMG2's soundtrack as something greater than even sliced bread, and I would have to disagree with that appraisal, as I am entitled to do so (you seem to imply I am not, and there is some "deeper rooted issue" than merely just my own opinions that differ from yours). It is a discussion, and if you can't handle negative opinions, then don't make a thread.

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Yeah, it stopped being a "i dont agree" post when you decided to go beyond the safe confines of your personal opinion and started questioning mine, with some "funnies" thrown in for good measure. I act like its "better then sliced bread" huh?

You know what that tells me? That you're not only disagreeing with me, you seem to be bothered by how much i (and others) enjoy something you dont.
The burden of butthurtness lies on your side, not mine.

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#52 haziqonfire
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sheeps will be rams when this gets an 8.5FILIPINOMAZTER

This is what I was talking about earlier, lol.

What i find funny is that you react to it, why do you care about his opinion, why do you feel the need to explain his opinion to him, in the most obvious matter?

Sandvichman

What?

I'm just replying, I don't really care lol.

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#53 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]simply put it he'll never give nintendo credit where credit is due.InfinityMugen


Despite constantly admitting that Nintendo still has high-quality first-party titles that uphold a very high standard in terms of polish and construction.

God... I love Nintendo fan strawmans of me.

Seriously Foxhound, what are you trying to prove at this point? On topic: The music sounds great and I hope the game plays even better. Im always up for a quality Wii game.

He critisised it, then people start to argue with him about his own opinion, now people are saying he should just stop. Does that make sense to you?

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#54 foxhound_fox
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Reviews is basically what everyone here cares about, so thats why I even brought up the GameRankings page - Like I said, its essentially all this board is about.

And he never implied that you are not allowed to disagree. Its just funny that you care so much to disagree and argue about Super Mario Galaxy and most anti-Nintendo complaints you have, no offense, are pretty ridiculous, though ultimately just funny.Haziqonfire


I don't "care so much to disagree"... I just disagree. I don't understand... am I not allowed to disagree? Are my opinions just going to be mocked and written off as "ridiculous" because they disagree with the majority? Why do you find my opinions funny?

You say "no offense" yet completely write off my opinions as ridiculous and entertaining. Seems kind of contradictory to me. It also seems like many people here have problems accepting the fact that Nintendo is not free from criticism, and that there are in fact people out there who don't worship them as gods.

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#55 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="FILIPINOMAZTER"]sheeps will be rams when this gets an 8.5Haziqonfire

This is what I was talking about earlier, lol.

What i find funny is that you react to it, why do you care about his opinion, why do you feel the need to explain his opinion to him, in the most obvious matter?

Sandvichman

What?

I'm just replying, I don't really care lol.

You read it, you replied to it, you care.
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#56 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I don't know what you are prattling on about, but I discredit the praise of any game, regardless if I like it or not. The fact of the matter is, reviews are opinions, not facts, and cannot be used to "prove" that such-and-such game is "better" than another or "best" overall. Claiming that "SMG is the greatest game ever, because it is the most highly critically praised game" is not much of an argument, or really, any discussion at all.

We (I at least) come here for discussion, not the espousal of opinions as facts. You yourself are playing up SMG2's soundtrack as something greater than even sliced bread, and I would have to disagree with that appraisal, as I am entitled to do so (you seem to imply I am not, and there is some "deeper rooted issue" than merely just my own opinions that differ from yours). It is a discussion, and if you can't handle negative opinions, then don't make a thread.

Thunderdrone



Yeah, it stopped being a "i dont agree" post when you decided to go beyond the safe confines of your personal opinion and started questioning mine, with some "funnies" thrown in for good measure. I act like its "better then sliced bread" huh?

You know what that tells me? That you're not only disagreeing with me, you seem to be bothered by how much i (and others) enjoy something you dont.
The burden of butthurtness lies on your side, not mine.

Making a thread about a piece of music, then a thread about this being GOTY, while questioning anyone who disagrees is more then just liking a game, infact if this was the case, you wouldn't be arguing with him about it.

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#57 Thunderdrone
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He critisised it, then people start to argue with him about his own opinion, now people are saying he should just stop. Does that make sense to you?Sandvichman
Sandvichman, you're terrible at cheerleading people

Go freelance again :)

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I don't "care so much to disagree"... I just disagree. I don't understand... am I not allowed to disagree? Are my opinions just going to be mocked and written off as "ridiculous" because they disagree with the majority? Why do you find my opinions funny?

You say "no offense" yet completely write off my opinions as ridiculous and entertaining. Seems kind of contradictory to me. It also seems like many people here have problems accepting the fact that Nintendo is not free from criticism, and that there are in fact people out there who don't worship them as gods.

foxhound_fox

Oh no trust me, I criticize Nintendo as well.

I just yknow, don't have the same criticisms as you (and many others who share the same ones as you) because I find them funny/pathetic.

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Yup, I am now very hyped. Most hyped game this year so far, probably since SMG1 is my fav game this generation, and probably of all time...
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#60 InfinityMugen
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
Despite constantly admitting that Nintendo still has high-quality first-party titles that uphold a very high standard in terms of polish and construction.

God... I love Nintendo fan strawmans of me.

Sandvichman

Seriously Foxhound, what are you trying to prove at this point? On topic: The music sounds great and I hope the game plays even better. Im always up for a quality Wii game.

He critisised it, then people start to argue with him about his own opinion, now people are saying he should just stop. Does that make sense to you?

Meh. Im not taking sides. I just wanted to check out some SMG2 vids. I guess this is the nature of system wars.

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#61 Thunderdrone
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]Yeah, it stopped being a "i dont agree" post when you decided to go beyond the safe confines of your personal opinion and started questioning mine, with some "funnies" thrown in for good measure. I act like its "better then sliced bread" huh?

You know what that tells me? That you're not only disagreeing with me, you seem to be bothered by how much i (and others) enjoy something you dont.
The burden of butthurtness lies on your side, not mine.

Sandvichman

Making a thread about a piece of music, then a thread about this being GOTY, while questioning anyone who disagrees is more then just liking a game, infact if this was the case, you wouldn't be arguing with him about it.

Jesus. At least read the goddamn post you quoted

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#62 foxhound_fox
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Yeah, it stopped being a "i dont agree" post when you decided to go beyond the safe confines of your personal opinion and started questioning mine, with some "funnies" thrown in for good measure. I act like its "better then sliced bread" huh?Thunderdrone

You used hyperbole to make itseem as if it was greater than sliced bread. That is how I am interpreting your opening post (as well as any other post you make regarding this game and its predecessor). I may be wrong (and can admit it if I am), but you are playing up this game to be something I disagree with. I'm merely responding to your thread and my interpretations of its contents. If you can't deal with it, don't make the thread. This is an open forum where anyone can come in and express any opinion they wish... at least I make a sensical post with reasoning behind it instead of "lol sucks".

I won't even bother with the rest.

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#63 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Sandvichman, you're terrible at cheerleading people Go freelance again :)

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]He critisised it, then people start to argue with him about his own opinion, now people are saying he should just stop. Does that make sense to you?Thunderdrone
What, cheerleading? I disagree with people arguing with im over his own opinion, would you maybe feel better it i started to post crappy pictures of mario again? Sandvichman, you're terrible at cheerleading people Go freelance again :)

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#64 W1NGMAN-
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SMG had some of the best music I've ever heard in a videogame, (not sure if that's saying much but still) so relaxing and Disneyish ... SMG2 looks to continue the trend.

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#65 Meinhard1
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The theme doesn't sound any more impressive than any other piece of orchestrated music in video games. You make it seem as if this is the greatest thing since sliced bread, when it is merely just another brand of bread.

foxhound_fox
I actually kind of agree with this in that elaborate orchestrated soundtracks are pretty common these days, especially in the bigger titles. However I do think some of this music is ahead of the curve and Mario fans in particular will appreciate the orchestral adaptations of older classic tunes.
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

The theme doesn't sound any more impressive than any other piece of orchestrated music in video games. You make it seem as if this is the greatest thing since sliced bread, when it is merely just another brand of bread.

Sp4rtan_3

Yeah, i'm the only one who holds SMG's soundtrack in high regard, i'm wierd like that. *sarcasm* Dont click on VG music related threads though, SMG OST praise might make you pop a vein.

SMG's music was a head and shoulder above everything else and still is today IMO. Most titles these days dont even pay attention to the soundtrack (CoD: MW2, W@W ect ect)

I really hope this is a joke. I find MW2 to be a very mediocre game, but one thing that isnt mediocre about it in any way is the music. Hans Zimmer is a MUCH better composer than that of any Mario game.

As for the Mario music its fun, but really its not any better then any other games music.

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#67 Sky-
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Remix of Super Mario World Ghost House level = win

Thanks for sharing, Thunder! :)

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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]Yeah, it stopped being a "i dont agree" post when you decided to go beyond the safe confines of your personal opinion and started questioning mine, with some "funnies" thrown in for good measure. I act like its "better then sliced bread" huh?foxhound_fox


You used hyperbole to make itseem as if it was greater than sliced bread. That is how I am interpreting your opening post (as well as any other post you make regarding this game and its predecessor). I may be wrong (and can admit it if I am), but you are playing up this game to be something I disagree with. I'm merely responding to your thread and my interpretations of its contents. If you can't deal with it, don't make the thread. This is an open forum where anyone can come in and express any opinion they wish... at least I make a sensical post with reasoning behind it instead of "lol sucks".

I won't even bother with the rest.

Liking a specific music is subjective. You can have your opinion on the soundtrack and the game, even though I recall you lot liking or have no interest in 3d platformers, and that is fine but putting words on the TC's post is foolish. He said the soundtrack was beautiful but never thought it was the greatest musical piece ever.

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Oh and BTW, the music is incredible.
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#70 Sandvichman
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I won't deny that the music is enjoyable, but to say that this is somehow something special, different is wrong. It's a good song, but take of the nostalgia glasses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70BnuX7AnxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrmIQXXbC8c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhfh_cXBI3s

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I won't deny that the music is enjoyable, but to say that this is somehow something special, different is wrong. It's a good song, but take of the nostalgia glasses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70BnuX7AnxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrmIQXXbC8c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhfh_cXBI3s

Sandvichman
Why are you posting Halo music in a thread about SMG2's website updates...
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]Yeah, it stopped being a "i dont agree" post when you decided to go beyond the safe confines of your personal opinion and started questioning mine, with some "funnies" thrown in for good measure. I act like its "better then sliced bread" huh?foxhound_fox


You used hyperbole to make itseem as if it was greater than sliced bread. That is how I am interpreting your opening post (as well as any other post you make regarding this game and its predecessor). I may be wrong (and can admit it if I am), but you are playing up this game to be something I disagree with.I'm merely responding to your thread and my interpretations of its contents. If you can't deal with it, don't make the thread. This is an open forum where anyone can come in and express any opinion they wish... at least I make a sensical post with reasoning behind it instead of "lol sucks".

I won't even bother with the rest.


What hyperbole? The "My god the music!" part? I really do like it. SMG's OST is one of my favourite game soundtracks ever.

And the bolded part?...yeah, i dont know whats up with that cuz i really fail to see anything beyond this being a hype thread of a sequel to an extremely popular and praised game. A game many here cant wait to play.

And "i'm playing this game to be something you disagree"? What?

I dont have a problem with your opinion. I do, however feel that your need to put your foot down and stop the evil agenda pushing and opinion forcing that doesnt exist quite silly, and irritating since i was actually expecting this thread to be about the game, and not console warrior drama.

at least I make a sensical post with reasoning behind it instead of "lol sucks".

foxhound_fox

And thats why i still bother replying to you with something more than a "lol".

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Too bad the music will most likely be heavily compressed on the Wii game disc and completely lack any kind of decent dynamic range. Just like almost every other Wii game.
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#75 foxhound_fox
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I dont have a problem with your opinion. I do, however feel that your need to put your foot down and stop the evil agenda pushing and opinion forcing that doesnt exist quite silly, and irritating since i was actually expecting this thread to be about the game, and not console warrior drama.Thunderdrone


Then head to General Games Discussion. When in System Wars, even I am much more highly opinionated than anywhere else, and tend to be far harsher with criticism. That's what I've come to expect from 5 years in this place, and that's what I deliver as a result of it coming straight back at me.

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#76 AvIdGaMeR444
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

The theme doesn't sound any more impressive than any other piece of orchestrated music in video games. You make it seem as if this is the greatest thing since sliced bread, when it is merely just another brand of bread.

Sp4rtan_3

Yeah, i'm the only one who holds SMG's soundtrack in high regard, i'm wierd like that. *sarcasm* Dont click on VG music related threads though, SMG OST praise might make you pop a vein.

SMG's music was a head and shoulder above everything else and still is today IMO. Most titles these days dont even pay attention to the soundtrack (CoD: MW2, W@W ect ect)

Kameo's music was pretty epic imo.

http://www.kameosoundtrack.com/

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#77 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

I won't deny that the music is enjoyable, but to say that this is somehow something special, different is wrong. It's a good song, but take of the nostalgia glasses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70BnuX7AnxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrmIQXXbC8c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhfh_cXBI3s

Haziqonfire
Why are you posting Halo music in a thread about SMG2's website updates...

It's called a compirason, shouldi just have to blindly praise it?
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#78 Seabas989
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I won't deny that the music is enjoyable, but to say that this is somehow something special, different is wrong. It's a good song, but take of the nostalgia glasses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70BnuX7AnxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrmIQXXbC8c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhfh_cXBI3s

Sandvichman

I like the Halo soundtracks but explain to me how Halo's music is something special and different whereas SMG2 is not.

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#79 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

I won't deny that the music is enjoyable, but to say that this is somehow something special, different is wrong. It's a good song, but take of the nostalgia glasses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70BnuX7AnxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrmIQXXbC8c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhfh_cXBI3s

Seabas989

I like the Halo soundtracks but explain to me how Halo's music is something special and different whereas SMG2 is not.

Where did i say that halo's music was special?
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#80 Thunderdrone
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Even so, It will most likely as the heavily compress on the Wii game disc and completely lack any kind of decent dynamic range. Just like almost every other Wii gameMarka1700


Compressed? Wii plays DVDs you know?
Sound files are as compressed as those found in any 360 game. Probably less since they can actually get more free space without the HD assets.

Audiophiles complaining about the use of Pro Logic II is one thing, but what you said is just wrong,

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#81 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

Even so, It will most likely as the heavily compress on the Wii game disc and completely lack any kind of decent dynamic range. Just like almost every other Wii gameThunderdrone



Compressed? Wii plays DVDs you know?
Sound files are as compressed as those found in any 360 game. Probably less since they can actually get more free space without the HD assets.

Audiophiles complaining about the use of Pro Logic II is one thing, but what you said is just wrong,

I'm not quite sure how i got quoted, but i never said that.

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#82 Seabas989
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[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

I won't deny that the music is enjoyable, but to say that this is somehow something special, different is wrong. It's a good song, but take of the nostalgia glasses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70BnuX7AnxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrmIQXXbC8c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhfh_cXBI3s

Sandvichman

I like the Halo soundtracks but explain to me how Halo's music is something special and different whereas SMG2 is not.

Where did i say that halo's music was special?

I'm still waiting for the explanation. You said it yourself that Halo 3/ODST > SMG so therefore I'm asssuming you posted these ODST music tracks as to say that these tracks are better then SMG2's music. Or am I wrong?

I'm just asking since your post was vague and broad.

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#83 hanslacher54
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What's with that Mario hating?

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#84 Thunderdrone
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

Even so, It will most likely as the heavily compress on the Wii game disc and completely lack any kind of decent dynamic range. Just like almost every other Wii gamebrennan7777



Compressed? Wii plays DVDs you know?
Sound files are as compressed as those found in any 360 game. Probably less since they can actually get more free space without the HD assets.

Audiophiles complaining about the use of Pro Logic II is one thing, but what you said is just wrong,

I'm not quite sure how i got quoted, but i never said that.

Sorry about that :P

I messed up the quote. Its fixed now

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#85 Thunderdrone
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What's with that Mario hating?

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We must tone down our levels of excitement. Its bothering people.
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Music's great

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#87 sherlock99
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What's with that Mario hating?

hanslacher54
it's a wii game silly lol just let the haters hate
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#88 kontejner44
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lol, Haziq, I call him the Sandwich-man. There's no point in discussing with him.

It's funny how all these people like foxhound are trying so hard, SMG is the best game this gen and some happend to love it on a personal level aswell, not just critically, and for them, it's like heaven.

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#89 Quaker-w00ts
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meh the music is good, but its not really pushing much.

none the less if i had a wii id buy it

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#90 sammyjenkis898
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Oh my god, the music! :roll: It looks pretty good.
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#91 DaViD_99
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]Oh my god, the music! It looks pretty good.

I concur, the music is pretty incredible
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#92 p3anut
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"] According to?Sandvichman
Uh, read what I originally wrote..

Who cares, halo 3 is a better game then SMG.

Yeah Halo 3 is better than SMG that's why it got GOTY over SMG here at gamestop... oh wait.

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#93 burgeg
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Nostalgiagasm at the Super Mario World music in one of the Yoshi clips! Well, technically is it nostalgia if I only played Super Mario World for the first time in 2007? Either way it's still awesome and definitely the highlight of those videos for me.

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#94 bobcheeseball
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Nintendo does a superb job on music period.

Mario's soundtrack has always been good and Zelda has the best music I have heard in any videogame IMO.

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#95 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="DaViD_99"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]Oh my god, the music! It looks pretty good.

I concur, the music is pretty incredible

It really is. It's revolutionary for video games. We've never heard music like this before.
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#96 Phaze-Two
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Diablo 2 has the best soundtrack ever, SMG2 wont beat it

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#97 Thunderdrone
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Diablo 2 has the best soundtrack ever, SMG2 wont beat it

Phaze-Two

Blizzard games do have great sountracks. But Warcraft 2 is their best OST, not Diablo 2 :P

You grow chest hair just listening to it

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#98 AmayaPapaya
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The graphics have improved quite a bit.

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#99 HeavenIceDay
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Can't wait, it looks amazing :D

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#100 DeckardLeeVI
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music is meh