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#151 Darth_Stalin

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[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]If true this just further backs my feeling that 360 was a rushed hardware. I'd feel more for the loyal fan base Microsoft gathered during it's first year, stuck as they are with a system that clearly isn't capable enough to deal with the future services the company plans for it's console.Rashpal

Um, IPTV will work with the original 360 :? This is not really that much of an upgrade. Just a bigger HDD (which anyone can get), and HDMI, which isn't important for IPTV.

I was referring to content downloads and HDCP with regards to the HD-DVD drive.

The 360 content DL's are fitting on the HDD fine right now. There is no big need for a replacement. The 360 will come out with a new HDD soon, and when that happens, people who need a new one will upgrade.........you can easily transfer your stuff with a mem card, and reDL your stuff with XBL (Since XBL keeps track of everything you DL in your profile). As for HDCP with HD-DVD drive, one format has to actually win b4 that will be that important. And from the looks of it, Blu-Ray will win.

"Right now" is the point. The system wasn't designed to deal with consumers' future needs on services M$ themselves would provide. It all very well saying "right now", but as the service picks up and more demands are made of the system the current standard package won't be able to cope. As for HD-DVD as I said, regardless of whether one format has won or not, M$ still has an obligation to those it is courting with it's HD-DVD drive.

You want IPTV, you go out and buy a bigger HDD if it is actually needed. (the SD cards on the Wii are as expensive as the 360's HDD). HDMI, it is not really needed for gaming people can go without it. That's all I'm saying. If HD-DVD loses.....MS has no obligations to the people who bought the format, since if you buy a format early, you know the consequences if it loses.......no more support, like the people who bought Betamax, or minidisc, etc.

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#152 -GeordiLaForge-

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[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]If true this just further backs my feeling that 360 was a rushed hardware. I'd feel more for the loyal fan base Microsoft gathered during it's first year, stuck as they are with a system that clearly isn't capable enough to deal with the future services the company plans for it's console.Tulak_Hord

Um, IPTV will work with the original 360 :? This is not really that much of an upgrade. Just a bigger HDD (which anyone can get), and HDMI, which isn't important for IPTV.

I was referring to content downloads and HDCP with regards to the HD-DVD drive.

The 360 content DL's are fitting on the HDD fine right now. There is no big need for a replacement. The 360 will come out with a new HDD soon, and when that happens, people who need a new one will upgrade.........you can easily transfer your stuff with a mem card, and reDL your stuff with XBL (Since XBL keeps track of everything you DL in your profile). As for HDCP with HD-DVD drive, one format has to actually win b4 that will be that important. And from the looks of it, Blu-Ray will win.

"Right now" is the point. The system wasn't designed to deal with consumers' future needs on services M$ themselves would provide. It all very well saying "right now", but as the service picks up and more demands are made of the system the current standard package won't be able to cope. As for HD-DVD as I said, regardless of whether one format has won or not, M$ still has an obligation to those it is courting with it's HD-DVD drive.

You want IPTV, you go out and buy a bigger HDD if it is actually needed. (the SD cards on the Wii are as expensive as the 360's HDD). HDMI, it is not really needed for gaming people can go without it. That's all I'm saying. If HD-DVD loses.....MS has no obligations to the people who bought the format, since if you buy a format early, you know the consequences if it loses.......no more support, like the people who bought Betamax, or minidisc, etc.

or laserdisc... :lol: People should've known that a disc the size of a mountain bike wheel wouldn't win...

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#153 Darth_Stalin

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[QUOTE="-Spock-"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="giantsfan91"]The PS2 was being sold with the network adaptor long before the slims came out.Rashpal

You can just buy a bigger HDD when it comes out for the 360 as well. Which leaves only 1 thing left, HDMI, which not everyone needs or even knows what it is.

As HDMI is increasingly becoming a standard in most HDTVs and the market continues to grow, in time it's importance will be recognised. When studios finally incorporate HDCP into their movie content the significance of that input will become doubly clear.

Well, HDMI was not even invented when the 360 was released, so that makes it a moot point unless you want to talk "should have" release dates. I do agree with you on the products which needed to be more future proof though, like their HDD which needs more room badly and the fact that IPTV will soon need a lot of space.

I remember reading some where on the net that Microsoft decided rather than wait a further year to have HD-DVD as standard on the 360, they (understandably) opted to go ahead without the format. The point is the option was there for the company to be patient and deliver a product that met the aspirations of the organisation. They didn't, which is fine, but what I find confusing is how Microsoft continue to project an agenda to the market that suggests they are prepared for future developments when clearly they aren't...

It wasn't a bad idea to go ahead without the HD-DVD, they wanted the early launch so bad, it was more important to them, since they thought it was their only chance to crack Sony (and it is helping them now). But it could be chaos putting an unproven format in your console, and could be a gamble, especially if HD-DVD loses and they waited, their wait would all be in vain. It was like a gamble, and they took the safe route which almost anyone would do. Sony on the other hand, had the upper-hand, and they had no problem taking the risk.

The only "future" really is the games, IPTV is nice, but not necessary.

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#154 giantsfan91

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[QUOTE="giantsfan91"][QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="giantsfan91"]The PS2 was being sold with the network adaptor long before the slims came out.Tulak_Hord

You can just buy a bigger HDD when it comes out for the 360 as well. Which leaves only 1 thing left, HDMI, which not everyone needs or even knows what it is.

For starters, when Sony released the network adaptor they came with the PS2. If I purchased a PS2 there would be a network adaptor attached to it in the box. Also, the Adaptor was what $20 or $30?( I not sure seeing as the PS2 I bought came with it attached.) How much will the HDD cost? $200? So $400 premium that I own plus $200 for extra storage which is becoming a must have with all of the added features and I still don't get the HDMI. You say most people don't need it today but what about 2 years from now? Face it, this is a horrible mistake if true. They are playing catch up with Sony and will give no one a reason to purchase a 360 over the PS3.

$200, how did you get that price? ANyway, in the 2 years you claim, the new HDD will collapse in price, especially if people think it's too expensive. And when will these added features come? we don't know, hell, we don't know if this Zephyr is official. As for HDMI, it is not that much of a necessity with the 360, considering no standard new-HD format. Besides, the main reason to purchase a GAME console is for the games.

If the price of the 20GB drive is a $100 it's safe to say that a 120GB HDD will cost around $200. IPTV is scheduled to come to the 360 this holiday season so if a new 360 is going to come out it would be this year. As for HDMI, the 360 does sell a add-on HD-DVD player which will require it sooner or later. M$ already admitted that the picture of the 360 with HDMI was a test model claiming they like to experiment with things in Redmond. Why would they experiment with something that the 360 will never have a use for?

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#155 Darth_Stalin

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[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="giantsfan91"][QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="giantsfan91"]The PS2 was being sold with the network adaptor long before the slims came out.giantsfan91

You can just buy a bigger HDD when it comes out for the 360 as well. Which leaves only 1 thing left, HDMI, which not everyone needs or even knows what it is.

For starters, when Sony released the network adaptor they came with the PS2. If I purchased a PS2 there would be a network adaptor attached to it in the box. Also, the Adaptor was what $20 or $30?( I not sure seeing as the PS2 I bought came with it attached.) How much will the HDD cost? $200? So $400 premium that I own plus $200 for extra storage which is becoming a must have with all of the added features and I still don't get the HDMI. You say most people don't need it today but what about 2 years from now? Face it, this is a horrible mistake if true. They are playing catch up with Sony and will give no one a reason to purchase a 360 over the PS3.

$200, how did you get that price? ANyway, in the 2 years you claim, the new HDD will collapse in price, especially if people think it's too expensive. And when will these added features come? we don't know, hell, we don't know if this Zephyr is official. As for HDMI, it is not that much of a necessity with the 360, considering no standard new-HD format. Besides, the main reason to purchase a GAME console is for the games.

If the price of the 20GB drive is a $100 it's safe to say that a 120GB HDD will cost around $200. IPTV is scheduled to come to the 360 this holiday season so if it is going to come out it would be this year. As for HDMI, the 360 does sell a add-on HD-DVD player which will require it sooner or later. M$ already admitted that picture was a test model claiming they like to experiment with things in Redmond. Why would they experiment with something that the 360 will never have a use for?

You never know how low MS can sell the HDD for to get people to buy it. We can worry about that price later, so there is no need to make estimations about it right now. Experimentation doesn't always mean it will happen, by the way, let us way and see what format will win b4 jump to conclusions. Because like I have always said, if HD-DVD fails, HDMI has no real use. And might will probably be widely ignored. And if HD-DVD fails, the HD-DVD add-on will be gone........

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[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]If true this just further backs my feeling that 360 was a rushed hardware. I'd feel more for the loyal fan base Microsoft gathered during it's first year, stuck as they are with a system that clearly isn't capable enough to deal with the future services the company plans for it's console.Tulak_Hord

Um, IPTV will work with the original 360 :? This is not really that much of an upgrade. Just a bigger HDD (which anyone can get), and HDMI, which isn't important for IPTV.

I was referring to content downloads and HDCP with regards to the HD-DVD drive.

The 360 content DL's are fitting on the HDD fine right now. There is no big need for a replacement. The 360 will come out with a new HDD soon, and when that happens, people who need a new one will upgrade.........you can easily transfer your stuff with a mem card, and reDL your stuff with XBL (Since XBL keeps track of everything you DL in your profile). As for HDCP with HD-DVD drive, one format has to actually win b4 that will be that important. And from the looks of it, Blu-Ray will win.

"Right now" is the point. The system wasn't designed to deal with consumers' future needs on services M$ themselves would provide. It all very well saying "right now", but as the service picks up and more demands are made of the system the current standard package won't be able to cope. As for HD-DVD as I said, regardless of whether one format has won or not, M$ still has an obligation to those it is courting with it's HD-DVD drive.

You want IPTV, you go out and buy a bigger HDD if it is actually needed. (the SD cards on the Wii are as expensive as the 360's HDD). HDMI, it is not really needed for gaming people can go without it. That's all I'm saying. If HD-DVD loses.....MS has no obligations to the people who bought the format, since if you buy a format early, you know the consequences if it loses.......no more support, like the people who bought Betamax, or minidisc, etc.

And all I'm saying is that Microsoft's current package (to coin a marketing phrase!) isn't future proof based on the aspirations of the company. The current product in a year or two won't be able to cope with the needs of the services Microsft are providing. So to suggest consumers should just go out and buy another HDD comfounds the point of the original purchase. It was a hardware very much rushed to launch which in the long run it appears to me consumers will have to pay for. As for the HD-DVD point, well that's how you lose customers...

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People complaining about price and being screwed over. FFS! It costs more due to the bevy of new features, and plus, why dont you go cry when there is a price drop. Yeah you must feel pretty screwed because you bought your PS2 for $300 and everyone else gets it for $150 = \

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LOL This is how Microsoft thanks their "loyal" customers! Grats us for buying an inferior version of the 360! :|

M$ you make me sick.

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#159 giantsfan91

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You never know how low MS can sell the HDD for to get people to buy it. We can worry about that price later, so there is no need to make estimations about it right now. Experimentation doesn't always mean it will happen, by the way, let us way and see what format will win b4 jump to conclusions. Because like I have always said, if HD-DVD fails, HDMI has no real use. And might will probably be widely ignored. And if HD-DVD fails, the HD-DVD add-on will be gone........

Are you suggesting they would sell a 120GB HDD for less than or even the same price as the 20GB HDD? How would that go over with the people who already bought the 20GB version? As for the HD-DVD drive, I wouldn't expect toshiba to give up anytime soon, no matter how bad they are losing the format war. Until they do M$ has no choice but to support it as they were foolish enough to stick their nose into something they shouldn't have got involved in. Really though, the more we discuss this the more unlikley it seems M$ would be foolish enough to try this stunt. At most I can see them making a different color 360 and putting the HDD out there as a add-on. Why would they take their only advantage over Sony (price) away from themselves. They wouldn't be able to compete with Sony at that price point unless they incorporated the HD-DVD drive.

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#160 -GeordiLaForge-

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LOL This is how Microsoft thanks their "loyal" customers! Grats us for buying an inferior version of the 360! :|

M$ you make me sick.
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First, it hasn't been confirmed. Second, why would it make you mad that new 360 owners will get a couple bonuses? Sony is working on atleast 1 new PS3. Will you get angry at them too?

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Why would they take their only advantage over Sony (price).giantsfan91

They are not going to. The current packs will drop in price while the new one will most likely cost around $400 dollars.

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It wasn't a bad idea to go ahead without the HD-DVD, they wanted the early launch so bad, it was more important to them, since they thought it was their only chance to crack Sony (and it is helping them now). But it could be chaos putting an unproven format in your console, and could be a gamble, especially if HD-DVD loses and they waited, their wait would all be in vain. It was like a gamble, and they took the safe route which almost anyone would do. Sony on the other hand, had the upper-hand, and they had no problem taking the risk.Tulak_Hord

I wasn't suggesting it was a bad idea, simply that they had the option to include the features which proved difficult to implement because of time.

The only "future" really is the games, IPTV is nice, but not necessary.Tulak_Hord

This I, and many who are looking to the future growth of the industry, wouldn't agree with. The future (and I know it's a last gen buzz word) is convergence. It's about getting people to acknowledge that gaming can be as much a part of their lifestyles as any other form of media entertainment. Why else is Microsoft working on intiatives like content downloads and IPTV? As a gamer of course I understand your point, but the picture is bigger than that now.

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Why else is Microsoft working on intiatives like content downloads and IPTV? As a gamer of course I understand your point, but the picture is bigger than that now.Rashpal

This is why they are working on a new version. For a more non-gaming 360.

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#164 giantsfan91

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They are not going to. The current packs will drop in price while the new one will most likely cost around $400 dollars.

You can’t keep a good rumor down. Just weeks after Microsoft stamped down talk that an HDMI-enabled Xbox 360, codenamed Zephyr, was in the works, the rumors are back. Retailers have confirmed that the new SKU is in their systems, set for a May 1 release for $479.99. In addition to the new video interface, the system would also pack a 120 GB hard drive into its nifty black exterior. Microsoft won’t officially confirm that such a configuration exists, but it’s interesting that so many retailers are wrong in the same way… According to the article in question it will be $479.99

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[QUOTE="Rashpal"]Why else is Microsoft working on intiatives like content downloads and IPTV? As a gamer of course I understand your point, but the picture is bigger than that now.Felous1

This is why they are working on a new version. For a more non-gaming 360.

Which wouldn't surprise me As I've said the 360 was rushed to market.

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Which wouldn't surprise me As I've said the 360 was rushed to market.Rashpal

It was rushed to a certain point. You can see this because of hardware issues they had. Even though $ony didn't rush the PS3 and coming one year later. They still had problems with their wireless controller and the whole 480p/1080i HDTVs fiasco.

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[QUOTE="Rashpal"]Which wouldn't surprise me As I've said the 360 was rushed to market.Felous1

It was rushed to a certain point. You can see this because of hardware issues they had.

You can see this because the current premium model couldn't cope with the demands of the aforementioned services in the long run, which is why (as you say) they are working on a "non-gaming 360".

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Edited my last post by the way.

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[QUOTE="Rashpal"]Which wouldn't surprise me As I've said the 360 was rushed to market.Felous1

It was rushed to a certain point. You can see this because of hardware issues they had. Even though $ony didn't rush the PS3 and coming one year later. They still had problems with their wireless controller and the whole 480p/1080i HDTVs fiasco.

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Sony aren't the ones allegedly redesigning their console...

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#170 Travo_basic

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Zephyr??

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Sony aren't the ones allegedly redesigning their console...Rashpal

That's because they just launched. Can you assure me $ony won't do that in ~1 year and a half ?

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Is this meant to be good news or bad news...

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[QUOTE="Rashpal"]Sony aren't the ones allegedly redesigning their console...Felous1

That's because they just launched. Can you assure me $ony won't do that in ~1 year and a half ?

:lol: No, but the point was this isn't about Sony, it's about Microsoft.

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Is this meant to be good news or bad news...zsc4

Good for future buyers, bad for existing owners.

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#175 Darth_Stalin

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[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"]It wasn't a bad idea to go ahead without the HD-DVD, they wanted the early launch so bad, it was more important to them, since they thought it was their only chance to crack Sony (and it is helping them now). But it could be chaos putting an unproven format in your console, and could be a gamble, especially if HD-DVD loses and they waited, their wait would all be in vain. It was like a gamble, and they took the safe route which almost anyone would do. Sony on the other hand, had the upper-hand, and they had no problem taking the risk.Rashpal

I wasn't suggesting it was a bad idea, simply that they had the option to include the features which proved difficult to implement because of time.

The only "future" really is the games, IPTV is nice, but not necessary.Tulak_Hord

This I, and many who are looking to the future growth of the industry, wouldn't agree with. The future (and I know it's a last gen buzz word) is convergence. It's about getting people to acknowledge that gaming can be as much a part of their lifestyles as any other form of media entertainment. Why else is Microsoft working on intiatives like content downloads and IPTV? As a gamer of course I understand your point, but the picture is bigger than that now.

The picture is mainly about innovation and who's console can do this and that. Securing of games and ensuring good gameply also price, has a bigger value than all these features, look at the Wii for example, it isn't HD and I don't think it can play DVD's, but it is selling like hotcakes, there is more to this than all these features like IPTV. By the way, the IPTV seems like the more important upgrade, do I need to buy this Zephyr for it? no. Does anyone else? No. The HDMI deal is not as important. 1080p TV's are still not as popular, all this talk about 1080p here and there doesn't strike my interest since I am buying a 1366X768 HDTV. Besides, HDMI is not a reason to sell your old 360 and get the Zephyr. The people with the HD-DVD drive might think about getting the Zephyr, or they might not even have 1080p TV's or even care because their components can show 1080p. It's just like the PSX (the suped-up PS2) How many people really bought it? Not too many. How many people complained about it? Not too many people cared, they just went on with their old PS2's and kept on going. What I am saying is most people here are blowing this out of proportion, it is a very simple matter. If you want IPTV and a bigger HDD, go and buy one, MS always spoke about make different sized HDD's. HDMI, no really cares, the HD-DVD drives didn't sell much. Blu-Ray is apparently beating HD-DVD, if they win.......no more HD-DVD. The people that bought the add-on? Too bad.......that's the way the format wars have always been. Besides, we still need to see if this is official. MS would have laid out a plan for this. As the 360 being a rushed game console? No. Is it a rushed media device.....sort of. They couldn't wait for the HD-DVD, and install a drive that will be expensive would have barely been tested, and hdmi? Not too many people knew about it back then, it wasn't important. People hardly knew what 1080p was, and MS had to incorporate it in an update.

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Wow kinda sad. 3 Xbox's in less then 10 years, and wel probly see a new xbox after the zephyr in 2 yearsGsSanAndreas

KEep talking cow.PS2- normal , PS2- SLim , PS3-Normal ,PS3- 60 GB hdd, and they will make a smaller PS3.

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[QUOTE="zsc4"]Is this meant to be good news or bad news...Rashpal

Good for future buyers, bad for existing owners.

I wouldn't really mind and i own 1 . I;m sure it will be more expensive though.

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#178 SystemWarsMan

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[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Wow kinda sad. 3 Xbox's in less then 10 years, and wel probly see a new xbox after the zephyr in 2 yearsturgore

KEep talking cow.PS2- normal , PS2- SLim , PS3-Normal ,PS3- 60 GB hdd, and they will make a smaller PS3.

agreed, cows just want something to bash on the 360 because they have 0 games on their system. Trust me I own a Ps3 and its not worth it. Resistance is a joke compared to Gears.

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#179 -Reggaeton-

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Both good and bad for the Lems, but seriously i dont think the price is right specially when the hd is relatively big.
If this rumor is true i feel bad for the ones who bought the original, and well its better for the ones planning to buy one.

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#180 Riviera_Phantom

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This annoys me a little, because a 120GB hardrive is a lot more useful over a long period of time. But i don't care for it be\cause it doesn't include a HD-DVD, if it did then consumers should feel cheated.

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#181 mprince131

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I think its a great idea and a nice way to compete with sony (which Microsoft really seems dedicated to doing). Although I'm starting to think that Micosoft like sony is starting to lose sight of the consumers in an attempt to be competitive. All those people bought a 360 expecting to be in the next generation however this move will be effectively showin people that Microsoft is just in it for the numbers and specs.

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I think the sweet spot would be $450 for the deluxe model, drop the premium to $350.

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I feel pretty ripped off. I bought an Xbox 360 Premium at launch and now there's one coming out that's way better :cry:. Oh, well I'm not gonna be conned into spending more money on the same console.

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Member since 2005 • 254 Posts

im preety sure EB games / Gamespot and 90 of retaielrs have been claiming this is fake ..

and if its real i think personally it could hurt 360 more then help it -- $479 is ALOT of money pay for a system which has been $399 since launch ....choasgod

the hdd is huge tho compared to 20gb

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#185 rexoverbey

Member since 2002 • 7622 Posts

I think it is a good idea if it comes with built in hd-dvd, dvi, and a bigger hdd for just $70 bucks more. I would trade my old 360 in for that. Still $120 bucks cheaper than a PS3 premium with a bigger hdd.

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#186 InsaneBasura

Member since 2005 • 12591 Posts

[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Well, poop then, if it's gonna be more expensive I won't get one as a replacement for my old 360. My stupid Sony TV won't accept 1080p through component. :x Stupid bastards to not put HDMI on the 360 in the first place.

But it will accept it through VGA. And if it doesn't have VGA, then you can easily convert the signal to HDMI...

It may be easy but it costs over 150$ to convert vga to hdmi...
http://www.nextag.com/Gefen-COMPONENT-VIDEO-OR-507185455/prices-html?nxtg=524a0a1c052e-F8C894316AA6E94D

Bravia's have a VGA port anyway, so it doesn't matter....

The KDS-55A2000 only goes up to 1366x768 through VGA. And you won't get a full screen picture for some reason. Yes it's ****ing retarded. Should've gotten an LCD instead.

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#187 cjnwo4life

Member since 2007 • 1587 Posts

IF TRUE then you are getting an hdmi port (if you need it since most kids don't have hd sets and most consumers don't own hd sets) and a bigger hard drive for $79.99. Good price for the hard drive, I already use vga so the hdmi isn't needed.

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#188 ParellelSpider

Member since 2007 • 25 Posts

Well, if this means that they are getting rid of the old ones then my current 360 might have an "accident" and since there will be no more original 360s left bestbuy will just exchange mine for a zephyr. I am glad i got the replacement plan lol.

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If this is true, nobody is getting ripped off. Your original 360's are still fine, they still play games, you still get 1080p over component for games. If you dont have a tv with hdmi ( most dont ) then no worries anyway. If you need a 120 gb harddrive, im sure there will be one made available for regular 360 owners. You are not being force to upgrade and you are not losing out on anything if you dont. Only people with a hd-dvd add-on and a 1080p tv who really want 1080p hd-dvd movies over hdmi may want to upgrade to the new system.

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#190 beyondgamez

Member since 2006 • 1335 Posts

I think its a great idea and a nice way to compete with sony (which Microsoft really seems dedicated to doing). Although I'm starting to think that Micosoft like sony is starting to lose sight of the consumers in an attempt to be competitive. All those people bought a 360 expecting to be in the next generation however this move will be effectively showin people that Microsoft is just in it for the numbers and specs.mprince131

..no really !! you know Microsoft will follow sony anywhere..im serious...they are watchin sony every moves..whatever sony wants to do they want to beat them to it....Microsoft is just screwing up early adopters for not thinkin it all out and not makin sure to satisfy all the early adopters..I know for sure they rushed their system just to get ahead start .and the outcome shows was thousand of defective console and playin catch up with the sony hardware with adds on..The biggest ownage i see for lemming IF microsoft do decided to put hddvd in the new version of the 360....

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Member since 2006 • 3704 Posts

I feel pretty ripped off. I bought an Xbox 360 Premium at launch and now there's one coming out that's way better :cry:. Oh, well I'm not gonna be conned into spending more money on the same console.WTA2k5

Is it your intention to utilize IPTV and download a bunch of high-definition movies off Xbox Live? If not, then don't worry about it.

18 years ago

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All this is crazy. I miss the good old days when u bought games just for the fun of playing games. Now everythings all about tekkie b*llsh*t and money. Takin all the fun out of gaming completely.

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#193 deactivated-57a12126af02c

Member since 2007 • 3290 Posts

i dont think that they will get rid of the white one, white is there color, look at all of the accesories, they are all white, they will prolly have a black and white 360.

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i dont think that they will get rid of the white one, white is there color, look at all of the accesories, they are all white, they will prolly have a black and white 360.kool-aids

Yeah, white is premium and black will be a super premium. Sounds like we talkin about gas for the car or something. I guess the core system will be the 'unleaded' model or somethin.

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#195 ElementalEvo

Member since 2003 • 53 Posts

Well, if this means that they are getting rid of the old ones then my current 360 might have an "accident" and since there will be no more original 360s left bestbuy will just exchange mine for a zephyr. I am glad i got the replacement plan lol.ParellelSpider

If you have the Best Buy replacement plan and it's still valid they'll exchange your 360 for the zephyr( if it does come out) and all you have to do it pay the difference.

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#196 juanfraino

Member since 2005 • 5660 Posts

time for me to "jump in" then. :)

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Member since 2006 • 2135 Posts

Yay! I wanted to get a 360, so perfect timing. I need to start saving. Only 500$ to go! ;)

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