Next gen graphics where?

@Star67: Indeed. I'm really interested to see how game design is going to change and evolve without those awkward "sidling through a crevice because it's actually a loading screen" segments and other things.

Also, for anybody who thought the graphics were disappointing, I think you might be remembering current gen graphics a bit fondly. I admit to being guilty of this, as well.

However, the Horizon 2 trailer got me excited to play Horizon again.... While the first Horizon is a gorgeous game, uh... it suddenly looks a bit dated compared to the new one.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf: And Q9FN reaches 1763 nits in a 10% window, but I guess that's not noticeable, not to talk about 100% window difference, 140 nits vs. 677 nits.

100% window... You do realise thats the whole screen being white?

Its not about fanboyish this that or what ever I literally have those two TV's.

The people reviewing them literally have them in front of them... The numbers do not do it justice.

Also not noticable?... Why twist words?...

As someone who has both a 65" B9 OLED with a 600 nits 10% window vs a 55" Q8FN with a 1288 nit 10% window... The above is false the 2x Peak brightness difference on paper is noticeable butits not 2x better not even close, infact the OLED black levels make a bigger impact to the HDR image.

I honestly didn't think people were this desperate that even TV choices made them fanboys. FML you people have no objective way of viewing the world. Its quiet pathetic.

Do you just love talking about things you haven't owned or tested or used so much?

There is more to a image in HDR than just peak brightness... And even if a TV can hit 1763 nits the avarage scene in a movie won't even hit those, movies aren't one scene with one lighting setup through out. Same as games... So the ability to hit higher contrasts and lower black levels is equally as important, infact more important which is the reason why RTINGS rates them higher.

You need that 2x higher brightness to bridge the gap between the whites and black levels on a LCD in order to be comparable to a OLED, use a LCD with the same nit value as a OLED and you will see a more washed out image on a LCD due to the contrast and black level difference. They are not equal in anyway.

Are you two drunk what do you mean the combination of the two?...

Go ahead if you have the TV's you say you have... Play a HDR game on your PC's at 1440p with HDR then run the same game at 4K without HDR.

HDR and resolution are not equal when it comes to being "overrated"... Resolution has diminishing returns based on screen size and viewing distance, HDR does not its purely limited by the panel you use if its capable of FALD and has or is a OLED.

I have done this already because I like playing around with the tech I own, Gears 5 in 4K with no HDR looks washed out compared to 1440P Gears with HDR.

HDR has nothing to do with 4K, many tour de force HDR movie experiences like Life of Pi aren't even mastered in 4K its mastered in 2K and upscaled.

I swear people here talk out their asses so much.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf: Big bright areas get dimmed on an OLED due to ABL, that's what the 100% window, 50% and 25% tests tell about. Sure OLED has infinite blacks, but you can achieve pretty decent blacks on a VA panel LCD, which loses only when it gets near or completely dark. Do people even run their OLEDs at max brightness due to fear of burn-in?

Edit:... and if anything I'm a HDR fanboy. The reason I don't want an OLED (as my main TV at least) is the burn-in issue, which still exist, the fact that our current appartment is quite bright, which means the screen would have to run pretty bright at times and finally because the 77 inchers are really expensive. The viewing angles are phenomenal though, VA panels suck at that.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf: Or maybe we’re just not impressed with HDR as much as you are? Shocking that some people might not share your tastes or viewpoints. Must be very troubling.

Also a combination of the two is pretty clear? A 4K picture with HDR. And you ask us if we’re drunk when you can’t even comprehend a simple sentence.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf: The fidelity in BFV is indeed significantly higher than BF4. Take a look at a map like Rotterdam. There is a lot of detail in the environment that is not found in BF4. The overall lighting, textures, terrain, and objects are more impressive in BFV. The game makes use of photogrammetry as well which brings up the detail to another level. If you bounce between BFV and BF4, the differences are very apparent.

That'd be sick if they could give me a shoulder massage while gaming. Now that's "next gen" graphics.

Not on PS5, that's for sure.

Is it me or does RE8 look worst graphically then RE2 remake?

RE2remake screenshot I took in 2019.

RE8 next gen only. PS3 edition? lol

@warmblur: Nope! Its not just you. The people look last gen stiff with the facial animation.

Flight Sim actually looks more next-gen lol

@jasonofa36 said:

Flight Sim actually looks more next-gen lol

Agree man that truly looks next gen and destroys everything we've seen so far on consoles.

I was thinking the same. However, I think the big leap next gen will be high frame rates at 4k.

@thatdbfan: Nah, next gen games will stick to 30 FPS for the consoles if devs are pushing for 4K.

@warmblur said:

@jasonofa36 said:

Flight Sim actually looks more next-gen lol

Agree man that truly looks next gen and destroys everything we've seen so far on consoles.

Holy hell...that looks awesome.

@dagubot: The volumetric clouds here are insane.

Now that's what I'm talking about.

lol next gen consoles aren't even out and PC is already getting a game that looks better

The same game coming to Xbox?

Flight sim is not only graphically stunning but it's also a showcase in technical brilliance which becomes clear when watching the development videos. People seem to forget that quite often graphical prowess is more about the skill of those behind it than the ability of the machine it runs on.

According Xbox official site it says it's coming to Xbonehttps://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/microsoft-flight-simulator. But there's no way it's going to look that good on console lol I can't wait to see the comparison videos.

I remember last launch people were saying the same thing. Compare a PS4 game to a PS3 game now.

@warmblur: Yeah, I don't get that as well. RE2, RE3 and DMC5 all looks better than the next gen exclusive RE8. Maybe they had to downgrade to be able to run it in VR? After all, VR has to render two images at the same time and at higher framerates.