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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"][QUOTE="percech"]
So it's confirmed huh. Guess I'm back on the bandwagon. MS FOR PRESIDENT
EDIT: Here's IGN's article
http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/05/06/internal-microsoft-memo-reportedly-debunks-always-online-xbox
percech
[QUOTE="clr84651"][QUOTE="AznbkdX"]
I have to say that the whole always online thing sounded dumb to begin with. Did you guys honestly think it would be like that?
It would be pretty funny if it is like that. I would feel pretty stupid. :lol:
blue_hazy_basic
MS was going to do it and then decided not to after all the negative feedback about it. Trust me if MS could do it and not have it hurt their sales too much it would've happened.
so you believe: "ALL TEH ANTI-MS RUMOURS ARE TEH TRUTH!!: but any ones which discredit those rumours are either not true or MS back-pedalling?I read a lot about MS considering it to stop piracy. It looks like they wont because it's too negatively looked upon.
[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]The usual Sony hards I see are starting to show up and refuse this because it does not fit their agenda. They never had trouble acting as if the opposite was a fact and not just some rumor.CanYouDigltso because one rumor says something positive about 720 all other countless rumors saying otherwise are false? :lol: Lems are suddenly trusting rumors again!Never said it was true or false, I am just laughing at people like you. You are one of the ones that acted as if the opposite is fact but this OMG it is only a rumor.i still think the previous rumors are true. This is one positive rumor in a sea of negative rumors for 720. When rumors from different sources keep saying the same thing they tend to be right. One positive rumor doesn't change anything IMO. Until MS themselves come out on the 21st and say there isn't AO I will continue to laugh a the lems like you.
Dat butthurt. Go see the sun once in a while bro, you're getting pasty and suicidal.[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Did you even read the article you posted?
"For now, all of this should be regarded as a rumor, but weve reached out to Microsoft for comment. Well find out all of the official details about the next Xbox when its officially revealed on May 21st. Until then, you can stay up to date with our round-up of all the latest rumors."Davekeeh
so you believe: "ALL TEH ANTI-MS RUMOURS ARE TEH TRUTH!!: but any ones which discredit those rumours are either not true or MS back-pedalling?[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="clr84651"]
MS was going to do it and then decided not to after all the negative feedback about it. Trust me if MS could do it and not have it hurt their sales too much it would've happened.
clr84651
I read a lot about MS considering it to stop piracy. It looks like they wont because it's too negatively looked upon.
And Sony did exactly the same ... :?http://kotaku.com/5896996/the-next-playstation-is-called-orbis-sources-say-here-are-the-details look here at the same rumours about the PS4from last year
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]so because one rumor says something positive about 720 all other countless rumors saying otherwise are false? :lol: Lems are suddenly trusting rumors again!I_can_hazNever said it was true or false, I am just laughing at people like you. You are one of the ones that acted as if the opposite is fact but this OMG it is only a rumor.i still think the previous rumors are true. This is one positive rumor in a sea of negative rumors for 720. When rumors from different sources keep saying the same thing they tend to be right. One positive rumor doesn't change anything IMO. Until MS themselves come out on the 21st and say there isn't AO I will continue to laugh a the lems like you. You should take all rumous with a pinch of salt pal, instead of blindly believing some that further push your bovine agenda.
[QUOTE="clr84651"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] so you believe: "ALL TEH ANTI-MS RUMOURS ARE TEH TRUTH!!: but any ones which discredit those rumours are either not true or MS back-pedalling?blue_hazy_basic
I read a lot about MS considering it to stop piracy. It looks like they wont because it's too negatively looked upon.
And Sony did exactly the same ... :?It's too unpopular to the public to force an always online connection. It's also very unpopular to force people to pay $60/yr just to play a game online. Companies will do things they believe they can get away with to make more money. If Sony starts charging it's because they believe they can get away with it. Same reason MS charges.
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]so because one rumor says something positive about 720 all other countless rumors saying otherwise are false? :lol: Lems are suddenly trusting rumors again!I_can_hazNever said it was true or false, I am just laughing at people like you. You are one of the ones that acted as if the opposite is fact but this OMG it is only a rumor.i still think the previous rumors are true. This is one positive rumor in a sea of negative rumors for 720. When rumors from different sources keep saying the same thing they tend to be right. One positive rumor doesn't change anything IMO. Until MS themselves come out on the 21st and say there isn't AO I will continue to laugh a the lems like you.
I don't expect them to talk about that May 21st. These corporate guys are always about being 100% positive at events like that. Even acknowledging that there are negative rumors out there is considered talking negatively. The most you might get about it is in interviews with journalists after the show.
[QUOTE="Davekeeh"][QUOTE="percech"] Dat butthurt. Go see the sun once in a while bro, you're getting pasty and suicidal.percech
How were you able to understand what I said? Is there someone else sitting besides you?
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]so because one rumor says something positive about 720 all other countless rumors saying otherwise are false? :lol: Lems are suddenly trusting rumors again!I_can_hazNever said it was true or false, I am just laughing at people like you. You are one of the ones that acted as if the opposite is fact but this OMG it is only a rumor.i still think the previous rumors are true. This is one positive rumor in a sea of negative rumors for 720. When rumors from different sources keep saying the same thing they tend to be right. One positive rumor doesn't change anything IMO. Until MS themselves come out on the 21st and say there isn't AO I will continue to laugh a the lems like you.And that is why I laugh at you and people like you. You are so invested with Sony winning that anything negative about MS you believe as fact but anything that does not fit your agenda you will not believe. I am sure this article has brought you much butthurt.
And Sony did exactly the same ... :?[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="clr84651"]
I read a lot about MS considering it to stop piracy. It looks like they wont because it's too negatively looked upon.
clr84651
It's too unpopular to the public to force an always online connection. It's also very unpopular to force people to pay $60/yr just to play a game online. Companies will do things they believe they can get away with to make more money. If Sony starts charging it's because they believe they can get away with it. Same reason MS charges.
Companies try to make money, this may come as a shock to people on this forum.Pretty much.All the negative feedback about them requiring one made them change it. Imagine if most people bashed having to pay for xlive and refused. MS would have to greatly reduce it or get rid of the charge altogether. MS is the kind of company that will charge for and control everything they can unless absolutely forced not to.
clr84651
Lems may try to pretend like it was never going to happen but they know that Ortho making the conformation and whole blow up over the internet is what saved nextbox from complete failure. MS was totally going to try it until the whole of the internet collectively sh!t on the idea and MS had to rework their setup to make the nextbox off line compatible.
Some one in Adam Orthos position wouldn't make something like that up. For lems to even try to suggest he would say those things without concrete knowledge of what he was talking about is more stupid then the idea of an always online console.
Paying for basic online gameplay still sounds stupid...and yet[QUOTE="AznbkdX"]
I have to say that the whole always online thing sounded dumb to begin with. Did you guys honestly think it would be like that?
It would be pretty funny if it is like that. I would feel pretty stupid. :lol:
casharmy
It must not be very stupid if you guys are paying for it (well at least to some of the ones paying for it). Or maybe it is just you guys are going to do it anyways?
Hell... businesses thrive off these tactics.
pfft, yeah sure.
what other outlandish things do you want me to believe?
that the nextbox really does not give your dog cancer?
cuz we all know it does.
gawd ms! GAWD!
i bet they have a "leaked" memo about how they removed the dog cancer from nextbox any min now.
[QUOTE="clr84651"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]And Sony did exactly the same ... :?blue_hazy_basic
It's too unpopular to the public to force an always online connection. It's also very unpopular to force people to pay $60/yr just to play a game online. Companies will do things they believe they can get away with to make more money. If Sony starts charging it's because they believe they can get away with it. Same reason MS charges.
Companies try to make money, this may come as a shock to people on this forum.Not to me at all. MS is making all they can to win in the gaming business. Sony will be forced is being and will be forced to do many things along with MS to stay in the gaming business. Looks like MS adopted Bluray that Sony put into place. Looks like Sony is socializing online gaming more because of MS.
Pretty much.[QUOTE="clr84651"]
All the negative feedback about them requiring one made them change it. Imagine if most people bashed having to pay for xlive and refused. MS would have to greatly reduce it or get rid of the charge altogether. MS is the kind of company that will charge for and control everything they can unless absolutely forced not to.
casharmy
Lems may try to pretend like it was never going to happen but they know that Ortho making the conformation and whole blow up over the internet is what saved nextbox from complete failure. MS was totally going to try it until the whole of the internet collectively sh!t on the idea and MS had to rework their setup to make the nextbox off line compatible.
Some one in Adam Orthos position wouldn't make something like that up. For lems to even try to suggest he would say those things without concrete knowledge of what he was talking about is more stupid then the idea of an always online console.
Oh geez, you keep going on and on about that guy. There's plenty of guys working for the US government that think UFOs are being hidden away in bunkers somewhere. But they don't actually know (And I'd argue they're wrong), they're just assuming it. They always think the OTHER government guy must know. Just because the guy was with MS doesn't automatically mean he knew anything about it one way or the other.
[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Never said it was true or false, I am just laughing at people like you. You are one of the ones that acted as if the opposite is fact but this OMG it is only a rumor.CanYouDiglti still think the previous rumors are true. This is one positive rumor in a sea of negative rumors for 720. When rumors from different sources keep saying the same thing they tend to be right. One positive rumor doesn't change anything IMO. Until MS themselves come out on the 21st and say there isn't AO I will continue to laugh a the lems like you.And that is why I laugh at you and people like you. You are so invested with Sony winning that anything negative about MS you believe as fact but anything that does not fit your agenda you will not believe. I am sure this article has brought you much butthurt.not really, I only care about the games. M$ "winning" would be them getting good games. Something they gave up on a long time ago. 720 is most likely going to be a KinectHaloCableBox so IMO they've already lost regardless of whether AO is true or not. :cool: I'm most likely gonna be a PC/PS4 gamer next gen just like how I was a PC/PS3 gamer this gen. The only way MS can get me to buy a 720 is them announcing that they'll drop their Kinect focus and that they are now buying new studios to make hardcore games. Till that happens I will continue to make fun of lems like you.
[QUOTE="clr84651"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]And Sony did exactly the same ... :?blue_hazy_basic
It's too unpopular to the public to force an always online connection. It's also very unpopular to force people to pay $60/yr just to play a game online. Companies will do things they believe they can get away with to make more money. If Sony starts charging it's because they believe they can get away with it. Same reason MS charges.
Companies try to make money, this may come as a shock to people on this forum.Exactly. If consumers will pay for it, they will keep using the model.
Its Business 101. Not hard to understand.
Pretty much.[QUOTE="casharmy"]
[QUOTE="clr84651"]
All the negative feedback about them requiring one made them change it. Imagine if most people bashed having to pay for xlive and refused. MS would have to greatly reduce it or get rid of the charge altogether. MS is the kind of company that will charge for and control everything they can unless absolutely forced not to.
Wickerman777
Lems may try to pretend like it was never going to happen but they know that Ortho making the conformation and whole blow up over the internet is what saved nextbox from complete failure. MS was totally going to try it until the whole of the internet collectively sh!t on the idea and MS had to rework their setup to make the nextbox off line compatible.
Some one in Adam Orthos position wouldn't make something like that up. For lems to even try to suggest he would say those things without concrete knowledge of what he was talking about is more stupid then the idea of an always online console.
Oh geez, you keep going on and on about that guy. There's plenty of guys working for the US government that think UFOs are being hidden away in bunkers somewhere. But they don't actually know (And I'd argue they're wrong), they're just assuming it. They always think the OTHER government guy must know. Just because the guy was with MS doesn't automatically mean he knew anything about it one way or the other.
MS & Sony considered an always online connection. MS more to stop piracy. MS was just heavily rumored to be doing it and Sony announced their console first and declared they weren't doing it. Many rumors followed stating MS was going to do it. Now rumors are saying they're not. Too unpopular for MS to go through with it.
[QUOTE="ninjapirate2000"]The fallout from that twitter guy probably made M$ change their minds.Mrmedia01
This^^
Maybe its a good thing that the twitter guy said all that. If he would have never, MS probably would have went through with this.
Never forget his sacrifice...
Never forget.
:lol: @ Lems taking another rumor to be gospel truth because it says something positive about 720. Watch as another negative rumor pops out and they'll change their tunes. :roll: Ah lems, gotta love dat spin.I_can_haz
And for every negative rumour to surface about the Next Box, the cows jump all over that to be "confirmed truth" like hungry dogs over the first bone they see. Which includes you if I'm not mistaken ;) So who's worse in all the rumour drama? hmmm?
Pretty much.[QUOTE="casharmy"]
[QUOTE="clr84651"]
All the negative feedback about them requiring one made them change it. Imagine if most people bashed having to pay for xlive and refused. MS would have to greatly reduce it or get rid of the charge altogether. MS is the kind of company that will charge for and control everything they can unless absolutely forced not to.
Wickerman777
Lems may try to pretend like it was never going to happen but they know that Ortho making the conformation and whole blow up over the internet is what saved nextbox from complete failure. MS was totally going to try it until the whole of the internet collectively sh!t on the idea and MS had to rework their setup to make the nextbox off line compatible.
Some one in Adam Orthos position wouldn't make something like that up. For lems to even try to suggest he would say those things without concrete knowledge of what he was talking about is more stupid then the idea of an always online console.
Oh geez, you keep going on and on about that guy. There's plenty of guys working for the US government that think UFOs are being hidden away in bunkers somewhere. But they don't actually know (And I'd argue they're wrong), they're just assuming it. They always think the OTHER government guy must know. Just because the guy was with MS doesn't automatically mean he knew anything about it one way or the other.
He was working for MS AND making a game for nextbox...yeahyour ufo analogy is about as relevant to the topic as vacuum cleaners are to sky diving.
[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]:shock: *kisses Michael's waifu*I_can_haz
....:roll:
:P *steals another waifu from Michael*Go cow.
[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]:lol: @ Lems taking another rumor to be gospel truth because it says something positive about 720. Watch as another negative rumor pops out and they'll change their tunes. :roll: Ah lems, gotta love dat spin.AdobeArtist
And for every negative rumour to surface about the Next Box, the cows jump all over that like hungry dogs over the first bone they see. Which includes you if I'm not mistaken ;) So who's worse in all the rumour drama? hmmm?
difference is there are 99 negative rumors about 720 for every positive rumor. You can't blame cows for going with the majority on this one. :P Lems would do the same if the tables were turned.[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]:P *steals another waifu from Michael*I_can_haz
Go cow.
its ok my Lem/sheep friend, I will buy you a new waifu :oops:You mean manticore.
[QUOTE="Wickerman777"]
[QUOTE="casharmy"]Pretty much.
Lems may try to pretend like it was never going to happen but they know that Ortho making the conformation and whole blow up over the internet is what saved nextbox from complete failure. MS was totally going to try it until the whole of the internet collectively sh!t on the idea and MS had to rework their setup to make the nextbox off line compatible.
Some one in Adam Orthos position wouldn't make something like that up. For lems to even try to suggest he would say those things without concrete knowledge of what he was talking about is more stupid then the idea of an always online console.
casharmy
Oh geez, you keep going on and on about that guy. There's plenty of guys working for the US government that think UFOs are being hidden away in bunkers somewhere. But they don't actually know (And I'd argue they're wrong), they're just assuming it. They always think the OTHER government guy must know. Just because the guy was with MS doesn't automatically mean he knew anything about it one way or the other.
He was working for MS AND making a game for nextbox...yeahyour ufo analogy is about as relevant to the topic as vacuum cleaners are to sky diving.
It is revevant. The point was just because he works there doesn't automatically mean he's in the loop about everything. He very well could have been reading all the rumors online just like the rest of us and became convinced of it that way (The same way a lot of these guys working for the government come to the conclusion there's an alien conspiracy despite them never having seen or heard anything regarding such a conspiracy while on the job). No way MS is telling everyone making Xbox games everything. If they did they wouldn't be able to keep anything secret.
[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]its ok my Lem/sheep friend, I will buy you a new waifu :oops:I_can_haz
You mean manticore.
:P Manticores are a myth, they don't exist on SW.Then I don't exist. You're talking to no one.
[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]:P Manticores are a myth, they don't exist on SW. I_can_haz
Then I don't exist. You're talking to no one.
You are not a manticore :| and I'm talking to you.You don't even know me.
[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]
[QUOTE="ninjapirate2000"]The fallout from that twitter guy probably made M$ change their minds.Sagem28
This^^
Maybe its a good thing that the twitter guy said all that. If he would have never, MS probably would have went through with this.
Never forget his sacrifice...
Never forget.
:cry: I took it the wrong way, all along Ortho knew what he was doing. Without his efforts the back lash wouldn't have come pre-announcement but after the system launced to a worse reception than wii U right now.
Thank you Ortho
[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]You are not a manticore :| and I'm talking to you.I_can_haz
You don't even know me.
:cry: Lies!!!!!!!!You're upset.
[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]
[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]:cry: Lies!!!!!!!! I_can_haz
You're upset.
Me? :P No, never!
[spoiler] :cry: [/spoiler]
Baby.
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